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@vextakes 2 месяца назад

boujee, boojee, boogie, boujei, bougie, bawgee, boogles... f**k

@RAM_845 2 месяца назад

I'm still rocking my Corsair Hydro Series H150i PRO from 2018, been through 3 systems. and now cooling my 5800X3D..I went AIO coz it looks neater.

@robdreams 2 месяца назад

language vex!!!

@RAM_845 2 месяца назад

@@robdreams Steve Rogers is that you? lol

@mvargasmoran 2 месяца назад

bogus

@Technically_Techy 2 месяца назад

bro just made another banger video yet comments something stupid like this, this is why I love this channel.

@TheIndulgers 2 месяца назад

Air cooling is the way. Cheaper, more reliable, and no pump noise.

@lilpain1997 2 месяца назад

You can get really competitive AIOs nowadays in price. Arctic at least here in the UK are god tier for that stuff. Also never had an issue with pump noise ever. I will say they are more reliable but I have also never had an issue with using one for literally 5+ years. I have literally never had one fail. I know an air cooler can last wayyyyy longer though so that is a huge W for a lot of people who want to save some on their new build they do, allowing an extra bit of cash towards the CPU or GPU.

@gozadrotit7426 2 месяца назад

@@lilpain1997I agree with you. I bought Corsair t170i I didn't remember the name. I bought it a year ago just for 170 euro, it has 5 years warranty. I use it to cool 13700k and I'm totally happy with AIO. My CPU doesn't goes above 70-75 degrees Celsius. Also big advantage is that you can put radiator where you want instead of putting heavy air cooler on motherboard and have risk that it will bend motherboard overtime. In my opinion paying a little bit more for AIO is win win.

@GeneralS1mba 2 месяца назад

I think arctic liquid freezer III 360mm aio is one of if not the best cooler for amd processors (performance is worse on intel), and is sub £70. Worth it imo.

@jujuu1339 2 месяца назад

@@GeneralS1mba i thought their new ones come with a contact frame

@sawdust8691 2 месяца назад

@lilpain1997 I just built my first ever PC and went with an Arctic lll 360mm AIO. I was heavily debating going with air or aio cooling. I think either would be fine. Cooling a 7800x3d. But from everything I saw, Arctic got special shout-outs as one of the best AIOs as well as being way cheaper than equal alternatives. So ultimately I went with it. Very happy. I'm new to PC so don't have a lot of experience. But the CPU currently never goes above 57C in games. I assume that's a good temp 😂. It's also basically dead silent compared to the case fans. Not sure if I want or need to adjust the fan or pump curve, or what better settings would be. But as is right now I'm glad I went with this AIO and didnt overspend on a different brand. Looks very clean.

@PyromancerRift 2 месяца назад

And the pump will die. When it does, you are in to spend the same amount of money, again. But when a fan dies on an air cooler, it cost 10 bucks to replace.

@arghpee 2 месяца назад

>hear fan bearing whirring >replace cpu fan with noctua >no more whirring happy

@Jackikins 2 месяца назад

Order the same AIO, swap the stickers, send it back and get a refund.

@s.g.t.t.9441 2 месяца назад

Here I heard it here 😂 that's legit the best strategy from personal experience working at retail it would 100%work we always look at stickers and serials so if it matches it's getting RMA @@Jackikins

@arghpee 2 месяца назад

@@Jackikins unethical life hack lol

@sawdust8691 2 месяца назад

I just built my first ever PC and went with an aio. Decided on an Arctic lll since from everything I saw Arctic is one of the best while costing way less. So far I'm very happy with it. If it does fail earlier than is reasonable I'll go with air instead. But I hope and expect the aio to last many years.

@SupraBagels 2 месяца назад

I think we overestimate how much we actually we want out of Pc and not actually having fun with it

@sheperdofthebrahs 2 месяца назад

Ye. Wont start playing new games just because you got a new PC

@ChillBoy-rk7ms 2 месяца назад

Yeah. I've never had one before so how would I know 😅

@HunterTracks 2 месяца назад

Yeah, I have a cheap laptop I was worried wouldn't be able to play AAA games. I dunno, it probably isn't, I haven't played a AAA game on it for months and I can't say I miss them.

@potato_trianon6984 2 месяца назад

Gets a new pc - plays game - bored - plays lateset AAA game - Slightly low frame - sad - looks for upgrade - new GPUs over $700 - P A N I C - Saves money - more processors - put more things in the cart - Builds another PC than upgrading the last one - broke.

@legendmaster1989 2 месяца назад

What?

@NeckbeardIndustries 2 месяца назад

"There's no way your wasting time with todays sponser" *Sponserblock automatically skips the baked in ad* Hey, you were right!

@davidmacfarlane4761 2 месяца назад

Hilarious!! 🤣 I will have to try Sponaorblock

@huckleberryjam4975 2 месяца назад

Freeloader thinks he's funny or smth

@ArtisChronicles 2 месяца назад

I actually don't mind sponsor spots. Sometimes i actually hear about something I'm legitimately interested in. Usually I just tune it out until it's over 😊

@stonkyboy7606 2 месяца назад

@@ArtisChroniclesI skip instantly for the sponsors that I see so often. I don't need to hear about Brilliant or Raid Shadow Legends for the 400th time, I would skip.

@StreamlinSCP 2 месяца назад

@@huckleberryjam4975boo hoo, just get an adblock

@Zieldak 2 месяца назад

My GPU is white, my RAM kit is blue, my SSD and HDD are silver, my mobo is black with yellow stripes, no RGB. All in a windowless case. As long as it performs well, I honestly don't care about the looks.

@christophermullins7163 2 месяца назад

I replaced my side panel with this server fan panel with 4 massive fans. Hooked up the fans to am adjustable voltage transformer to a very low setting and get massive airflow. I always turn off the power strip to my PC anyway so it's perfect and my 6950 XT went from 80 degrees to 65 degrees just replacing the side panel with the 4 fans panel. It's janky but I literally have zero desire to get any sort of proper setup. Even the $50 for a decent case can be added to the savings for my next CPU upgrade. No frills and all performance.

@SimplCup 2 месяца назад

same, i recently built my first ever pc and i didn't bother looking at how parts looked, whether they had rgb or not. it still somehow came out looking good and stylish tho xd

@Honerkamp Месяц назад

The only looks that matter is the case. And that doesn't cost you more just to get a nice and sleek case. Nowadays often with fans already included.

@Noname-iq1gz 8 дней назад

@@christophermullins7163the fan panels are insanely expensive bro, no way

@christophermullins7163 8 дней назад

@@Noname-iq1gz I am in that line of work so it was free. Yes... $120+ minimum for the panel lol pretty sure this one was over $200 😂

@Alvin853 2 месяца назад

Companies like Corsair, Arctic, Lian Li etc. pay a lot of money to sponsor influencers so they show off their products in every video and people think they're living in a cave when they don't build a PC like this.

@christophermullins7163 2 месяца назад

Yeah my PC is mounted to the wall of my cave to keep the water from the underground stream from ruining by basic black no frills components.

@Teapose 2 месяца назад

I've spent $75 on CPU coolers in the past decade. It's not about fun, it's about practicality. And fucking with a faulty AIO isn't "fun". I'll take that time and money saved and reinvest it into games.

@ArtisChronicles 2 месяца назад

I made the mistake of getting a corsair H100i v2 at one point. The v1 was a solid product, but the v2 didn't use enough anti corrosive in its mixture and many would end up with a failure due to corrosion. Mine included in that batch. I later saw a post by a dude using his computer for work going through about 5 of them. All of then having the same failure. I just switched back to air and never thought more about it after that.

@HanSolo__ 2 месяца назад

I spent 12$ on Thermaltake white RGB; it makes ZERO noise.

@Teapose 2 месяца назад

@@HanSolo__ Yeah, air coolers in general are pretty frickin quiet now. The standout quiet boy performer for a while was the Hyper 212 Evo, but now there's at least six or seven fans out at market that are just as quiet or more quiet that still keep the CPU chilly, you've gotta be doing some real wild stuff to need AIO for anything other than aesthetics, and of course no shade to those who use them for build look reasons. But certainly if you're just looking for performance and value, you should steer very clear from that and just get a tower air cooler

@chipsalom 20 дней назад

@@ArtisChroniclesthe thermal right peerless assassin 120 SE ... Spent $30 on it. Sure my CPU is just an i7, but it's 14th gen, and even when running at 5.6 mhZ, the temps never even worry me. I rarely ever hear the sound of my fans, and my case is running 11 of them (if we count the 3 on the graphics card). Maybe I got lucky with incredibly good airflow, maybe it's Maybelline. Or maybe, AIOs just aren't needed, lol

@dvxAznxvb 2 месяца назад

Consumers are trying to find reasons to purchase products

@dr.mortal2894 2 месяца назад

nope, the industry wnat that u buy all of their produrcts, or even better, all products from only one

@shanksisnoteventhatstrongbruh 2 месяца назад

also, the money saved while getting similar performance (at least at 1440p, like with the 2 builds here) can be used for a better mouse, better keyboard, better audio (both speakers and headphones/IEMs) and of course a way better monitor (or multiple monitors) than someone originally would have gotten if they had used that money for the tower. $400 is A LOT for a setup if used outside the PC.

@ChillBoy-rk7ms 2 месяца назад

Yeah. I made a whole desktop 🖥️ set up for 1500 dollars on newegg (to match a price range 😅). Also I didn't by that because I didn't have 1500$ to spend

@ChillBoy-rk7ms 2 месяца назад

Outside the PC is expensive, the PC built alone is 1,000 dollars depending on the knowledge you put into it

@z590iGeeeKReBoRN 2 месяца назад

The problem is: those apps lead to benchmaritis, which leads to overclockathon, followed by hardware envy

@TheAtomoh 2 месяца назад

I got almost insulted for putting a Thermalright PA with a 7800x3d. Everyone told me i had to buy a 240mm AIO.

@user-kk9lm4ye8c 2 месяца назад

i've seen a good amount of people using a LOW PROFILE AIR COOLER on the 7800x3d, and it was completely fine

@user-im3hm2ly9g 2 месяца назад

Same. Except mine is Phantom Spirit cuz I want to support Thernalright for giving us the better Noctua performance.

@sntslilhlpr6601 2 месяца назад

Jeez, where were you where people were saying shit like that? I honestly can't even imagine sleeping on the value of these air coolers. I think a lot of kids today just don't understand how unprecedented they were. AIOs were actually great for a while, but that was back when you had to buy Noctua to get good air performance, which was in a similar price range. Ever since Thermalright decided they wanted to undercut the market it's been a no-brainer for any budget conscious gamer. If you *really* want watercooling just because it's cool, then you should spend the fortune it takes to actually do it yourself. Otherwise air is a no-brainer and that's before you even start talking about longevity.

@Dankyjrthethird Месяц назад

Reddit moment

@meusana3681 Месяц назад

When you don't realize the cpu will adapt to the cooler it's given...smh

@INTROSPEKTRAL 2 месяца назад

i use water cooling because of it's small form and ease of install on mothearboard, instead of installing huge air cooler radiator. that's about it. that's real tangible pro of water cooling. also keep in mind that having radiator inside flows all that hot air inside the pc and then exhausts it via airflow, whereas water cooling flows all that hit outside right away, so even on ryzen 5 my gpu runs 5c cooler and my rams are cooler aswell, because that extra part heat isn't exhausted inside. it becomes even more important if u have heavily flawed gpu like 3090 which has extremely hot memory and that 5c temp drop becomes 10c temp drop.

@JustSomeoneRandomProgrammer 2 месяца назад

Yeah. Finally someone

@UncannySense 2 месяца назад

Majority of user installed AIO will be front mounted with fans blowing the hot air inside the case that will need just as many case fans required to expel the heat accumulated. So what really matters is case flow dynamics. Otherwise best scenario is having the radiator external and preferably in another room or outside...

@INTROSPEKTRAL 2 месяца назад

@@UncannySense i haven't seen anyone around me installing AIO radiators in front. it dooesn't makes sense. unless one has absolutely zero understanding of airflow or no ability to use google (at which point i doubt they'll be able to install AIO anywhere for that matter) - noone would install it in the front.

@matthewrease2376 2 месяца назад

I've never built a PC before, but I plan to by the end of the year, and I recently found your channel, and it's been giving me great info. Thank you. I'm not in this for looks, I'm in it to spend a lot, and get even more. I don't plan to buy another PC for at least 6 years afterwards, if not longer.

@MrAnimescrazy 2 месяца назад

What is your budget? What are your current specs if you have a list of parts?

@matthewrease2376 2 месяца назад

@@MrAnimescrazy well I'm going to make a new build once I'm actually ready to start buying, but I'm shooting for about a 2k $ build.

@PyromancerRift 2 месяца назад

Fun fact, i play at 4k 144hz on a 7900xtx and my CPU is a 7600 non X. Yes, because i will never need a better CPU to play at 4k, i will never be able to get 250fps. With a gigachad air cooler that runs at low speed the CPU never reach 60c. The only place i overspent is the GPU, to be able to also run its fans at low speed and have a super quiet system at full load.

@vvampyyy 2 месяца назад

What fan do you use?

@SimplCup 2 месяца назад

i suppose for gaming u don't need ultra powerful cpus, unless u want to play minecraft with 64 render distance or cities skylines 2

@magnusnilsson9792 2 месяца назад

With a 144Hz monitor 144FPS is all you need, but if you bought a 7600 you can most likely upgrade it later.

@HoneyBadgerVideos 2 месяца назад

i dont get AIO cooling for the better temps but to keep the temps out of my case. I also like the tubes in my case and the added extra rgb fans. that is worth the price for me.

@tourmaline07 2 месяца назад

Agree with this - I've ran some pretty powerful GPUs (Vega 64/2080Ti/4080 Super) - all over 300W and some approaching 350W and I'd like to not have the heat dumped from them onto a CPU heatsink.

@christophermullins7163 2 месяца назад

@@tourmaline07well you are clearly wrong.

@nevernicemeadow 2 месяца назад

you are right, PCIE3 NVMEs are good enough. You dont need PCIE4. but what you want are probably TLC cells instead of QVC. Also you probably want an NVME with DRAM cache. For this reason you should have chosen the Teamgroup M34 over the MP33. While both are PCIE3 (which is totally enough), only the MP34 has a DRAM cache

@christophermullins7163 2 месяца назад

Hey buddy.. your brain is showing.

@Tha-Biscuit 2 месяца назад

One thing to remember when building your pc is longevity. The x3d imho is the better budget choice if you plan to keep long term.

@christophermullins7163 2 месяца назад

The same argument could be had for saving the money today to hold for a future CPU purchase in a few years. You pay more today for performance than you will in the future plus you don't need that performance today. The longevity argument is not a great one.

@praetor5485 2 месяца назад

Thank you so much for this video. You have no idea how many setups I see with useless stuff that bumps up the price for absolutely no reason. People can spend those money on things that really matter like a stronger gpu/a better monitor but no.

@AleksCoreBY 2 месяца назад

and what to do to people who already got RTX 4080 which is literally enough for all currently but they got some spare money. Why everyone check each other's wallet I dont get it

@christophermullins7163 2 месяца назад

Idk.. I have always built strong PCs without wasting a $. Got a 6950 XT 5600x build thati spent $800 total on. Min max is all I know.

@buffmomloading 2 месяца назад

I've considered going back to an aio several times but what pulls me away is aio pumps go bad. It's guaranteed. But air coolers, the only thing that could go bad are the fans which are cheap replacements in comparison. Unless you're overclocking, you don't need those extra few degrees. Peerless Assassin all day long here and I have yet to hit high 70s.

@tourmaline07 2 месяца назад

I've had a fairly cheap Coolermaster ML240L running in my PC for six years now with the pump maxed - I do think it helps running pumps at a fixed RPM for the lifespan. Prefer to have AIOs which has more thermal capacitance and so you don't need to have the fans ramping so aggressively as you would with an air cooler , which gets saturated quickly.

@balazsszikora216 2 месяца назад

I am using the COOLERMASTER Hyper 212X for my 5700x (65-100w) and it was fine with the FX 8350 (125w) costs 16 EUR. And it works fine.

@Playingwith3D 2 месяца назад

If I could have found all the parts I would have reused mine too for sure.

@christophermullins7163 2 месяца назад

@@Playingwith3Dyou don't need all the parts. I have my aio fastened with random brackets that didn't come with it. Lol CPU runs 40c while gaming and overclocked so it's doing it's job.

@Playingwith3D 2 месяца назад

@@christophermullins7163 That is the performance I remember from it. I used it on the FX8320 space heater at the time and it would keep it at around 32c all times. I have a 5800x with an AIO and its always running between 60-70c

@mijles 2 месяца назад

Just recently got back into pc building and really enjoy your content! Two thumbs up, keep up the good work 👍👍

@Cho_osen Месяц назад

never in my life have I ever learnt so much from a singular youtube video. Thank you so much for educating me on something i had no idea about but was just soo obvious. you truly are underrated vex. been a sub since 40k i think. i usually dont comment but i mean yah

@Lukiel666 2 месяца назад

I have the Peerless Assassin ARGB. It was $42 Canadian, looks great, runs cool and quiet. Used Arctic MX-6 instead of stock paste. Buy a good air cooler, put the money you save towards a better graphics card. That will make your system run better for the same overall price.

@deansigman6099 2 месяца назад

I just recently went from a 280mm aio to a Noctua air cooler. It's significantly quieter because of that pump and cools basically the same. I work from home and use the computer for roughly 10-13 hours a day. The noise reduction was worth the trade.

@christophermullins7163 2 месяца назад

How do you get any work done if you're gaming for 10-13 hours a day? That some serious multitasking. Props.

@deansigman6099 2 месяца назад

@@christophermullins7163 lol. I wish I could game that much. More like 1-2 hours of gaming and 10 hours working

@redbunnyclassic 2 месяца назад

@@christophermullins7163 he never mentioned gaming. Focus 😂

@christophermullins7163 2 месяца назад

@@redbunnyclassic I know..

@ivoesteves4814 2 месяца назад

This sounded deep yo, like actually like a movie, The build up explaining the terrible situation then quoting :"This is how you escape the Republic !!!"

@Honerkamp Месяц назад

I have EXACTLY 2 reasons for using an AIO. It looks nicer and when i build a PC for fun and sell it, it's less likely to be damaged while moving it around with an AIO rather than a tower cooler.

@radosuaf 2 месяца назад

I still have the Noctua NH-U12P cooler I bought back in 2008 (!) - I just slapped a new Noctua fan on it replacing the old one and got the mounting kit for LGA 1200 for free from Noctua. it's cooling my 11700 without breaking sweat :).

@ledheavy26 2 месяца назад

Same. I'm on my second cpu with the same Noctua and have never had a temp issue. No reason to get water coolers unless you absolutely cannot fit one but can fit a water cooler, or if you just want one for aesthetics.

@Ninjaeule97 2 дня назад

My current PC has a glass panel on the front and side, RGB lights, and an AIO but that's only because I bought it used. I made sure to look for one with a Ryzen 7 7700x in it because the RTX 4070 wouldn't utilize a better one anyway. In reality, I would prefer a silent case with no glass panels. I currently have the AIO set to only start the fans once the CPU hits 50°C and the same for the case fans. Does that also work with air coolers? If yes I might just sell the Case and AIO and get a used silent case and aircooler if it's cheaper.

@LarsaXL 2 месяца назад

This was a helpful video. Thanks.

@benwuester1150 2 месяца назад

I’m hyped that you have a test bench now! Keep doing you fam. Only way is up.

@SebiX-fp2ux 2 месяца назад

I have purchased Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE yeasterday and seeing this video made my day better.

@klientleo.kawaiidaisuki 2 месяца назад

Watching your videos helps me enjoy the house chores while doing it. Not gonna lie, I’m doing dishes while watching this video and finished exactly when the video ended. 😂 About this video, I was thinking of going for AIO water cooler CPU Fan, but my mid tower is not good for it, and I realized that I don’t need it for I’m only rocking a Ryzen 5 5600G, which is not that powerful for intensive tasks. I’m still using a used RTX 2060S tho, and I’m contented with its performance 😄

@philipreininger2549 2 месяца назад

First of all, great video, spent too much on cooling when i was inexperienced and now I recomment air cooling for most of my friends but about the sound, maybe the pumpsound comes from the pump not being at the utmost top spot of the loop. Maybe it only looks like this in the shot but if the pump gets filled with air that often gives annoying sounds as u know :)

@richardpierre7946 7 дней назад

Great video man, I am guilty of fomo and over spending on things I don't need. I'm in the process of building an itx build for travel and fighting myself to not go crazy specifically with a gpu as on my main rig I have a 4070ti.

@philipbrand4759 2 месяца назад

you used a DRAM-less ssd, is that fine for just games? They are cheaper but will they also have shorter lifespan, or get slower than an ssd with DRAM would the more they get filled up?

@obeyobay9146 22 дня назад

I live in a very hot country where average daytime temps are around 40-45 Celsius. Would you say a normal air cooler such as ak400 would be good enough for say a 7800x3d?

@7HeavySteel 2 месяца назад

Just got a Sapphire RX 7800 XT and it's a banger.

@patrickobrienstr 2 месяца назад

I think that’s what I’m getting. What model did you pick up?

@ArtisChronicles 2 месяца назад

I actually prefer the air cooler sound over that liquid cooler sound. That pump needs to be turned down a smidge. I hope they give better control over pump speed if they haven't provided it already.

@henson2k 2 месяца назад

Do you use open case?

@Revoku 2 месяца назад

my whole watercooling loop cost less than a noctua DH-15 and is needed for what horrible things I am doing to my GPU, and you absolutely can tell the difference. because the cpu temp is lower is stays at max boost all the time in games, the GPU is overclocked, overvolted and running beyond its wattage(by double) and the typical gaming temps are between 38 and 46C/50C hotspot overclocked, down from 88C and pegging the hotspot at 110C stock cooler stock clocks. am I the exception in this case? A second hand Lowara D5 EK pump picked up for $20NZD, 380mm double thick rad and 240mm rad $18NZD, automotive 9.5mm hoses $10, brass 1/4" fittings with a 10mm hose barb on them(modified with a dremel), $0.5-1 each on clearance, coolant $1 on clearance(betcause no one wanted XT-1 in the color of hobo piss)

@Hex_819 2 месяца назад

Im runnin a 7600 and this CPU puts in the work I expect, so Im happy with it. Although, I do need a new case for better airflow since my GPU runs a bit too hot in newer games, was gonna get the NZXT H6 Flow, a fan hub and some extra fans later

@TECHiSuppose 2 месяца назад

Good suggestions! I did one water cooling project back when most of the components had to be purchased from pet/home stores. Since then I've never had the desire to do water cooling again even though it's plug-n-play. 😄 It's cool seeing it go mainstream with AIOs, but yeah... their actual uses cases feel much more niche than popularity would suggest.

@idkwhattohaveasausername5828 2 месяца назад

I have an deepcool AK500 and that thing is great. At max load my 7800x3d hits 80ish degrees. Air cooling is way better imo. Unless you’re doing a custom loop then go with watercooling, but for most it’s just not worth the effort

@1213dragon1 2 месяца назад

Definitely agree with the points. when I first built my am4 build I could have saved on ram and fans by just getting plain colours and not RGB. Yeah, it was nice for a week but now I don't like it and most of time when I do eventually use my pc it's on the window sill with the curtains in front of the glass panel 😂😅 Am definitely jealous of your blacked out pc asthetics

@25myma 2 месяца назад

I still love the art of air cooling; you have to plan the airflow, use the smallest case possible to reduce the volume of air your fans move and if you do it right, you can match some AIO temps. Watercooling is still overkill and expensive for most builds but people keep falling for it as the 'ultimate cooling'.

@GeneralS1mba 2 месяца назад

Less than £70 aio isn't that bad.

@25myma 2 месяца назад

@@GeneralS1mba yeah, decent air coolers aren't cheap either and problem is many cheap ones are trash, that pushes more people towards AIO..also case art; a big brick is less sexy that glowing tubes and led stripes..and ther theres the install-n-forget comfort of that brick...as someone once said "It just works"😁

@slc9800gtx 2 месяца назад

I think the air cooler sounds more pleasant. This is a great informative video.

@magnetars6477 2 месяца назад

very well explained , thank you. Do a video were you compare older ryzen's to new and see how much of a difference there is , Ill be more willing to see your perspective on this.

@GetWokeGoBroke69 2 месяца назад

I bought a liquid cooler and it died in 3 years. I came in one day and im like wtf is cpu temp is going crazy high like 90. Went back to air cooler and stayed with air cooler ever since.

@AleksCoreBY 2 месяца назад

arctic gives 6 years warranty

@sp00kyvin 2 месяца назад

you came in a liquid cooler? 😨😨😨

@tumo07 2 месяца назад

Does waranty cover the pump failure or they are gonna say it’s wear and tear and won’t be under waranty

@henson2k 2 месяца назад

Never had problem with NZXT AIO, you probably got unlucky

@GetWokeGoBroke69 2 месяца назад

It's was a corsair, and liquid coolers have a high failure rate. Where air cooler is extremely rare. And it's easier to tell if an air cooler. I mean, just look at the fan. Where liquid cooler, it's the pump that failed, which, in my case it was.

@roshunepp 18 дней назад

Question. What's the thermostat set to in your house or What's the temperature in the room?

@xozzy7809 2 месяца назад

You are so right. I recently did mini itx build and even though in them liquid cooling makes more sense I went with air cooling and that saved me 50-100$ which I put towards 7800x3d and thats not all, instead of very expensive mother board I bought B650I AX from gigabyte which saved me close to 250$ compared to more popular choices like Asus ROG STRIX X670E-I GAMING WIFI which I used towards replacing 7800xt with 7900xt. Do I miss something from liquid cooling or better motherboard? No, my pc is almost silent when idle, cpu cooler is never louder than actual graphics card when gaming and cpu is not throtlling either. I could either save a lot of money or just like I did got much more performant pc

@cael_1303 2 месяца назад

When I built my current PC almost two years ago I got an AIO (which turned out to be overkill in the first place) on discount and only used it for like a year until I started getting Hotter Temps like 80-90c on a game a week earlier was only like 50c (took me awhile to diagnose the AIO after replacing my thermal paste). I then switched over and bought a Vetroo V5 cooler after seeing JTCs video on it. As it turned out I think initially it cooled better than the AIO did. I also like not ever having to worry about the slim chance that something in my PC will leak and kill it. Of course I was told later that I probably needed to turn over my AIO/Case but I'd just rather deal with no liquid and less overall maintenance in my PC if I have to.

@AnonymousUser-ww6ns 2 месяца назад

For the case I was finding the Monotech AIR MAX 903 to be a good value for $70 (one time it was on sale for around $60). It comes with three RGB fans in the front and one regular fan in the back, RGB HUB, and comes in E-ATX form factor for extremely easy cable management and futureproofabity for AIO if one chooses to do so. In addition the build quality on it is really good. Moreover ANY GPU will fit in that thing because it’s an E ATX case and for $70 it’s a steal. I hereby recommend this case for everyone including budget people.

@paulworster3683 2 месяца назад

i've built a (£600 AM4) SFF PC and put in a Thermalright AXP90 X47 on the 5700x . its a great little cooler, however even with fan curve adjustments and a Noctua A9x14 this thing ramps up and is pretty noisy even went opening chrome. so my next addition will be to rip that out and put in a Arctic Freezer 3 ( it'll fit! just). in a bigger case Air cool all the way get your self a NH-U12A and be happy. but in a Meshlicious i am going for the best and quietest Water cooler on the market at half the price of a NH-U12A.

@zelven6109 2 месяца назад

High end components, full noctua cooling, and a solid panel case. The perfect build

@thekachyt 2 месяца назад

W video Vex💯💯💯

@cheesesilk 2 месяца назад

Good video! As a newbie to building, didn't factor in the motherboard updates issue with Intel. Got a 12900K with motherboard and 32gb ddr5 ram at microcenter for like 400 bucks. runs beautifully, not sure if Amd would have been better. Coulda saved 30-40 on my air cooler though.

@tackyinbention6248 2 месяца назад

13:56 while it wasn't my initial plan, I got a reference model 7800xt which imo has a much nicer side profile, end cap and backplate look than the gigabyte model I was initially after but was out of stock. I managed to bargain so it was cheaper too! Always look around on the day that you buy parts. Another pleasant surprise was that it being thinner than the gigabyte model made for better airflow in my matx case

@AaronWOfficial Месяц назад

Air coolers are gigantic now and make it a huge hassle to work around it (meaning ideally you would make it the last thing you install in your build). The problem however is when you want to tweak your build i.e change out the ram you are using, replace fans that just died etc you basically have to remove the air heatsink while with water cooling you can leave the pump in since its around the same size as the cpu socket itself. This is why I am going AIO water cooling for my next upgrade, creates so much more room around the motherboard to get your hands in to do what needs to be done.

@theopszone6775 2 месяца назад

I do build PCs on my network, currently running a test bench with a air cooler it does its job really well. It all falls on preferences and what case.

@haim4 2 месяца назад

Good video ! About SSD - direct storage is the future so as current pricing stands in amazon U.S and EU gen 3 nvme and sata is the same price, and if you want to utilize direct storage you need at least gen 3 and higher(Also Forespoken uses direct storage).

@urulooke 2 месяца назад

Great video! Reasonable purchasing behavior and resisting the marketing bs is the way to go!

@Alexander_X_ 2 месяца назад

Awesome video! I've never understood people who buy chip CPU and GPU with overpriced motherboard and memory. In addition to that they buy expensive watercooling, tons of fans, and a fancy-looking case. I can understand people who don't care about performance and want a good-looking PC or have enough money for anything they want but if you don't have money and you spend everything on appearance it's just ridiculous.

@patrickobrienstr 2 месяца назад

Vex you need a discord! It’d be dope to talk about builds and such with your community

@Razor2048 2 месяца назад

One reason for the need of better cooling, is when you want get the largest benefits from PBO which allows you to sacrifice efficiency for a small performance boost, especially for the non-X3D parts where PBO can be pushed much harder.

@katietree4949 2 месяца назад

Being compared to Linus and Jay is an insult. One would ideally want to be compared to Buildzoid or our lord and savior, Tech Jesus.

@ScentofLaceration 2 месяца назад

I will not watch either of those narcissistic douche bags. Tech Jesus is the way, the consumer advocate/informer we desperately need.

@meusana3681 Месяц назад

wtf are you on about. Both Linus and Jay are legends in the field. They've been doing THIS specifically for longer than most of you have been alive.

@bmdshred77 Месяц назад

Really good video.

@RohanSanjith 2 месяца назад

What About Video Rendering? i have Ryzen 7 3700x currently with AMD Wraith Prism Cooler and it touches 90c in premiere pro rendering and thermal throttling the cpu, and i think maybe for my use budget build won't work, In my next build i'm going with aio to avoid frying my processor, moreover it pulls like 90 to 85 watt for a 65w rated cpu.

@kintustis 2 месяца назад

Don't worry about the temperatures. Your processor will not fry itself. Ever. They've been designed to down clock themselves for decades now. That chip will sit at 95 degrees for its whole life and be fine.

@stia_wolkov 2 месяца назад

As the vid said, you don't NEED AIOs. Dual Tower Coolers deal with those problem with basically the same result and cost way less, granted if your case fits.

@TheLuis12198 2 месяца назад

Hey guys need some opinions on my first PC. So I pulled the trigger on the 7800X3D Bundle at MicroCenter since I kept hearing that’s it’s the best CPU. But I hadn’t really done much research. So now I’m seeing that it might be a bit overkill. Was originally planning on pairing it with the new 7900 GRE. But now that I’m thinking about it if I return the bundle and get the 7700X bundle which is $100 cheaper I could use that money to pair it with a 7900 XT instead. Also plan on getting a 4K 144hz monitor since I plan to mostly play my games on 4K. What do y’all think? Also to note I would want to use the PC for work if needed.

@Yasai_1204 2 месяца назад

A small note for the SSDs, always check the rated endurance of the drive (TBW value) especially with cheap drives to ensure that it won't die within a few years.

@tomwills1163 Месяц назад

I use my cars old intercooler. Bonus of this is that the old engine oil residue helps reduce friction and wear on the CPU cores and increases multithreading performance.

@Technically_Techy 2 месяца назад

I 'd be down to see a video about the process you take when making videos from the concept to the full video edited since your content is really well made and very different than everyone else. I'm curious how you edit videos? What do you think about when making a video that makes your content so different? It's also a great time to show the work that goes into RU-vid video's since it's a LOT of work that people think takes 5 seconds, especially with benchmarking. I know you talked about it on the Broken Silicon podcast, but it would be cool to actually see it instead of hearing it plus more exposure.

@Spyke_misc 2 месяца назад

I am still on am4, looking to bump my ram to 32 gb (yeah games are poorly optimized now, and some have nasty leaks) I upgraded to a 5600 a couple months ago and boy it's so much better, i'm probably gonna stay on am4 for a while ,perhaps upgrading to a 5900 non x variant at some point Gpu wise, well, i got a 6600, and well, non of the gpu on the market seems relevant as an upgrade rn, perhaps the 5060 if nvidia gives it 12gb of vram ? I don't need a whole lot more power, as i render game and upscale them to 1440p so

@aquosy7 2 месяца назад

Great video.👍

@Hoigwai 2 месяца назад

I have a 5800X3D my cooler is an ARCTIC Freezer 34 Esports Duo. Right now it is 41-44C in a 21C room. When I'm playing Cyberpunk 2077 it is around 69-71C. My GPU is a 6950XT $600 is what I got it for in May of 2023. It is going to last me a very long time. FPS in Cyberpunk on high @1080p is averaging 137.5. If I were to go to 1440p I'm sure I'd still get near 100FPS so I'm happy with my system. My case is a Corsair Graphite Series 600T Mid-Tower Case. I got it 9 years ago for $139. It still does the job and keeps things cool and has all the space I need even for the big GPUs. I have added 2 $20 Scythe fans to the mesh side panel to give a bit more air to the GPU and CPU otherwise it is the same as when I bought it.

@TheDock_ 2 месяца назад

I got a 7800x3d last week. the reason why i got one is because i mostly play tarkov and i got huge fps gains in that one game. i recomend playing Tarkov or watching videos comparing a non x3d chip to an x3d chip to see what happens when a game is able to take full advantage of the Level 3 cache

@wingmanemu3473 2 месяца назад

tarkov has dogshit performance thats why it needs an x3d part to even run properly

@christophermullins7163 2 месяца назад

@@wingmanemu3473my dogs shit has stunning performance.

@yissnakklives8866 2 месяца назад

I didn't have to change out the fans on my Peerless Assassin...yet. Been about 8 months now and no issues. I have not ever seen my 5700x3d get over about 50 C - and just running CPU-Z stress test, it tops out at 40c (room temp 22.2 c)

@gnobba 2 месяца назад

Pros got the arctic p12 fans, based af. Also best budget case imo is the msi mag forge 100r £50 in the uk with 3 included fans that are decent, only downside is the snap off plates for the gpu slot covers.

@johnasosajr 2 месяца назад

I have the 7800x3d and the deepcool ak620 zero dark does well at cooling rarely see it hit 60-65 while gaming I have the gigabyte b650 gaming x ax and it’s a solid board WiFi and Bluetooth

@poopoppy 2 месяца назад

Peerless Assassin on my 7800x3D. I'm not upgrading it. I would rather put that money to a new GPU.

@RealTonyMontana 2 месяца назад

I have a deep cool ak620 for my i7 13700k and it has never gone above 70 C even when playing the most CPU intensive games. I do like how liquid coolers look, but they have too many points of failure that I’m not comfortable with putting in a $1500 rig. At the end of the day it’s personal preference

@daniil3815 2 месяца назад

you absolutely correct. 8:47 also keep in mind that those 10% faster is at 1080p with 4090 xD. when you actually play you will be GPU limited anyway. so yes, 7600/7600x/7700/7700x/7900x does makes sense for most people. buy 7800x3d only if you have 4080-4090/7900xtx GPUs.

@matthewrease2376 2 месяца назад

Would using the cooler the non-X CPUs come with be wise if you're also going to enable that BIOS setting that increases the power draw to be similar to the X variant?

@Dennis_N. 2 месяца назад

In Germany the arctic liquid freezers 3's are way cheaper then in the US. I got my Arctic Freezer iii 240mm for 60€ and the 360mm one cost only 76€!!! For comparison, I could habe gotten a termalright peerless assasin dual for 35€, or since a few days the new Arctic duo 36. Bit the 240mm Arctic 3 was a really good value for 60€, so I'm happy with my purchase

@sawdust8691 2 месяца назад

I'm in the US and just built my first ever PC. I went with the Arctic lll 360 aio since they seem like the absolute best quality and price. Around 80-90 dollars here for the 360. Very good in comparison to the other options. Seems like a similar price. I'm pretty happy with it so far.

@MrAnimescrazy 2 месяца назад

I went with an all white build I built last year with the gigabyte aero oc 4090/ 7800x3d/ 64 gigs of ddr5 ram in the phanteks nv7. The pc is a beast and I clean it once a month. I went with air cooling to keep it simple especially when I clean the pc.

@JustSomeoneRandomProgrammer 2 месяца назад

No way that will cool it

@MrAnimescrazy 2 месяца назад

@@JustSomeoneRandomProgrammer is this sarcasm? I have 12 fans in my build which is my profile picture. I play at native 2k or native 4k high settings with or without raytracing depending on the game and if I feel like using raytracing. My temps are very good and I deep clean the pc once a month maybe twice a month sometimes.

@JustSomeoneRandomProgrammer 2 месяца назад

@@MrAnimescrazy i know. On text it sounds like i don't believe you

@MrAnimescrazy 2 месяца назад

@JustSomeoneRandomProgrammer that is dumb because air cooled is the majority of pc builds. Liquid cooling is the minority.

@JustSomeoneRandomProgrammer 2 месяца назад

@@MrAnimescrazy but wait

@brewergamer 2 месяца назад

If I win the lottery ima make an entire PC out of pure gold just to flex my build on Reddit. Have it liquid-cooled with $10,000 champagne, giant precious gems for buttons. Shuck yea dawg.

@williamcarter3642 2 месяца назад

Are you using Chrono Trigger music in places in your video?

@veliki_sef.9034 2 месяца назад

I have the r7 7700 and it's insanely good with some minor tweaking (PBO and Curve optipmizer in ryzen master). i also have basically the same performance as the 7800X3D in cinebench 24, all 8 cores boosting to 5,35 GHz, over 1100 points. and my cpu costs about a quarter less than the 780X3D.

@gamogm8234 2 месяца назад

i really need how cpu perform on low end or mid gpu ? i know not anyone care but we still need about test its worth upgrade cpu while still using low mid gpu ?

@DodgyTodger Месяц назад

I recently did a min/max build/rebuild/recycle of my own. (In Ireland, prices here are terrible so we need to shop around) Ryzen 5600 for €131 32gb high end ddr4 3600 cl 16-16-16 ram for 60 euro B550 mobo 80 euro(a good ASRock one) I already had the ram so that's why I stayed with b550 mobos. The next step up was something like a ryzen 7500f or 7600 with more expensive ram and mobo.... I just didn't have the budget to go with the newer platform. I just picked up a rx5700xt oc for 190 euro to complete it

@whmxtra 2 месяца назад

One thing I only recently discovered, is turning PBO off drastically reduces the CPU temp (like 20 degrees cooler in my case) and still delivers almost the same performance. Now granted I'm not gaming at 1440P but in my own tests most games will run just fine with the boost off. Was just something I noticed one day, with PBO on it rams everything through 2 or 3 P cores and barely touches the rest and pretty much ignores HT altogether. Turning PBO off it just uses all the cores and HT to make up the difference. But the lower voltage going through the cores usually results in a much lower temp. And I'm just using the stock wraith cooler that came with my machine, a decent aftermarket cooler would probably lower the temps another 10 or 15 degrees. My rig with PBO on hits about 70 degrees playing things like forspoken etc, with PBO off the game runs just as well but cpu temp is only 51 lol. Even in Cinebench testing, with PBO on my temp hit 80, with it off it only hit 65. The score difference between the two was about 25 so no big deal. I'm not running one of the newer higher watt processors but I'm sure it would have an even greater impact on those due to drawing a lot less power.

@nevernicemeadow 2 месяца назад

my current go to is: get a thermalright peerless assassin or the cheaper 120 single tower depending on your CPU. instantly replace fan with a cheap, silent, reliable arctic fan 120 PWM PST, either RGB or non-RGB

@tjhedgescout3052 2 месяца назад

I'd like to see a passive cooler for CPUs, though i'm' worried about how big it may need to be, or what the thermal solution may have to be for the best efficiency.

@magnetron2.049 2 месяца назад

I have been running custom watercooling sinds 2017, but with the current AMD CPU's and the way better air cooling performance on GPU's I would not advice it to anyone. When I started with watercooling the 1080ti I got was only a 2slot card and sounded like a jetengine . Together with a 7700K that I delidded it was almost mandatory to keep the noise on a decent level.

@zhouzenkamfachannel1394 2 месяца назад

I made the right choice I think! Motherboard- MSI Pro B650M-A wifi, GPU- Radeon sapphire RX 7700 XT Pulse 12GB, CPU- Ryzen 7 7700, Memory- Tforce 32gb 2X 16GB, CPU cooler- cooler master hyper 212 argb, Hard disk- kingston SNV2S200G 2TB

@Neonloverx 2 месяца назад

is not having a side panel bad? like exposing your whole gpu and cpu to open air. isnt that gonna attract more dust. or is it okay?

@mikfhan 2 месяца назад

If you dont have pets, go for it :) ghetto cooling. beware bread crumbs. Max 1bar air pressure when cleaning, no air cans (they spit water drops)

@oswaldjh 2 месяца назад

I install 120mm water cooler only on small, constricted case builds. For reasons of space and getting the heat directly out of the case.

@GentlyUsedFrog 2 месяца назад

I love aircoolers, i've been tempted by AIOs a few times but not needed honestly. And i've been looking towards the R7 7700 or 7800X3D for my upgrade and both don't need AIOs to function properly so that's great. Though I might change my air cooler to a peerless assassin (my freezer 34 esports duo or whatever the name is supposed to be is getting old)

@ardithconley2628 2 месяца назад

Good video. I am going to build a budgeted PC already have most of the parts. I an going to use this case due to it looks nice and has RGB Fans in it with a glass door that has hinges on it. GAMDIAS Apollo E2 Elite Gaming Case Mid Tower ATX for $60 great deal.

@johnasosajr 2 месяца назад

I got the montech air 903 max 75 dollars has 3 argb fans in the front an exhaust fan in the rear and a fan header removable hard drive tray and it seems nice

@chipsalom 20 дней назад

I build a lot of PCs for myself, family, friends, etc. and pretty much learned long ago that AIOs are usually a waste, if not sometims worse than decent priced air coolers. then, one person demanded an AIO... I told them several experiences i had had in both my classes and building experience that have made me pretty much avoid non custom water cooling loops/AIOs ever since. But they were adamant. So... I gave them what they wanted. I've never bothered with another liquid cooler pre-built again, because even after 3 reseats and repastings, and then even LAPPING the cold plate because of how bad the cooling was, it's temp performance was pure shit. I even returned it thinking I got a bunk one... but got same performance. I've never, EVER ran into thermal throttling or any heat issues at all with good air coolers. Pcs I've built over years as a rule max their temps at under 70C, across every build (aside from 3 i9s that were used for a lot of editing) aside from extreme rare cases of them absolutely TRYING to push the temps. Don't avoid the enormous selection of great performing, reasonably priced air coolers. Take that extra $80+ and put it towards a better component elsewhere, and thank all the ppl telling you to do this later 😂