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How to Grow Without Forcing Progressive Overload 

Alexander Bromley
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@aparthia
@aparthia 2 года назад
A thing most people don't think about either is that you don't need to increase load or reps every week. If 3x10 @315 was all-out, all you could do. Then repeating that 1 week later will still be a big stimulus, and for several weeks down the road even. Then when it has gotten too easy, it's easy to increase the load and repeat the process.
@Uncle_Tijikun
@Uncle_Tijikun 2 года назад
This is absolutely true. I found myself repeating 3x6 at 315 for like 4 weeks lately for a serie of reason as it was constantly around rpe 8/8.5 Then one day it suddenly felt like rpe 6 😂
@secondthought2
@secondthought2 2 года назад
@@Uncle_Tijikun that's to a point, there comes time u need to dig deeper. Something like rotating a lot of accessories
@Inzane8
@Inzane8 2 года назад
My thought is: if 3x10 @ 315 lbs is all out max effort, then the fatigue from that could affect other lifts/performance for subsequent sessions adversely. Wouldn’t it be beneficial to work up to that instead then Deload? So for example, instead of starting at 315, maybe 285 3x10 295 3x10 305 3x10 315 3x10 Deload Restart at 295 3x10
@secondthought2
@secondthought2 2 года назад
@@Inzane8 30 pounds lighter could be too much of a drop. U could literally have 5 6 reps in reserve in 1-2 sets. 295 300 305 315 315 deload seems more like it.
@Inzane8
@Inzane8 2 года назад
@@secondthought2 it was just an example, and the week to week increases would be lift-dependent. The point is, you can still gain a positive strength or hypertrophy adaptation using submaximal loads, and also manage fatigue. By starting out with a lower RPE and progressively getting closer and closer to RPE 10, you could have more weeks of productive training. Alternatively, if you start off at 315 3x10, and do that for four weeks straight, you will likely see good results there too, but the RPE will eventually get lower as the weeks go by. It’s kind of the reverse. This may be very individual, but I know that if I start off a mesocycle going to rpe10, the fatigue that is generated is going to adversely affect my training for subsequent sessions. Building UP to RPE 10 at the end of a meso cycle has personally been way more sustainable.
@TheBcoolGuy
@TheBcoolGuy 2 года назад
I've been training "passively" this whole time. It's the intuitive way for me and I can say that with certainty because I've only ever followed my own routine, built upon and steadily improved based on experience and studying videos like this one.
@joelportwood5902
@joelportwood5902 2 года назад
I'm the same, people ask what I do and ask all I can really tell them is follow some basic principles and above all consistency. Precalculated metrics on progression don't take into account variable factors of life. I will say running a program can help beginners or a type of person that feels unconfident in intuitive progression.
@vsauce4498
@vsauce4498 2 года назад
Almost everybody should be doing some programming instead of thinking they just know so much cause they’ve watched youtube videos for years
@jugheadsrule
@jugheadsrule 2 года назад
He's basically copying what Dan John's been saying for decades, even used the name of Dan's program, Easy Strength.
@thomasmarchese2808
@thomasmarchese2808 2 года назад
Same. Always felt it was best to learn how to program for my needs. But but stuff I do t need. Sport specific for example
@VinnyMickeyRickeyDickeyEddy
@VinnyMickeyRickeyDickeyEddy 2 года назад
The “same weight until it’s easy” is how I trained my nephew to make sure he was actually stronger before pushing weight up. It worked extremely well and he never got injured or joint pain etc.
@andrecocco1
@andrecocco1 2 года назад
This is how steploading is supposed to work
@VinnyMickeyRickeyDickeyEddy
@VinnyMickeyRickeyDickeyEddy 2 года назад
@@andrecocco1 Yes it worked great and I do the double progression for myself.
@richardtarantino2601
@richardtarantino2601 Год назад
I'm 58, been lifting for over 30 years and this what I've come to. I feel like this type of training is what I'll be doing from here till the end, whenever that is. Paying attention is key. After all these years, lifting has become my yoga. Mind, body, spirit.
@wick3dwick
@wick3dwick 2 года назад
The concept of active vs. passive progression really helped me sort a bunch of different ideas about training. Thanks for sharing!
@johndoiron9615
@johndoiron9615 Год назад
I have been toying with this idea for a while. I know this video is a year old, but I'm glad I found it now.
@jdata
@jdata 2 года назад
These are the videos I subscribed for. Back when you had like 10k subs I ran into a video of you doing your thing on the white board and your explanation of concepts is so well done. Golden content, man. Seriously, great job and thank you.
@porqpine53
@porqpine53 2 года назад
This is great for maintaining specificity on a single lift while trying to focus more aggressively on another lift. Keeping heavy squat touches in while blasting bench
@ohmymy9
@ohmymy9 2 года назад
Enjoying the new format & presentation💪
@XtremeConditioningLab
@XtremeConditioningLab 2 года назад
Do you think static progressions are the original progressions? If you think about early equipment you could not easily adjust it by 5 pounds, it was usually large jumps which forced people to train at a light weight until they can do so many that they were able to then make the jump to the heavier weight.
@TheMortalkombatking
@TheMortalkombatking 2 года назад
This is why I love the Bulgarian method. You take what you have in the day. I remember squatting 6 days a week, and never feeling sore or tired after, and still managed to put massive amounts of weight on the bar. Sometimes I'll you need is proper stimulation frequently.
@karlheinz8002
@karlheinz8002 2 года назад
Hey, I'm new to the channel and a non-native english speaker (or listener, in this case) and I just wanted to say: I really appreciate this videos und your crispy english. Even for us over here it's no problem to understand the theories and follow your thoughts. Really looking forward to learn more. Cheers from Belgium.
@fortitudetrainingsystems
@fortitudetrainingsystems 2 года назад
This info comes at a great time for me. I run a small group program with some people from the general population and have been looking into methods such as step loading to ease up on some of the more aggressive approaches.
@kokolokoblaszczak
@kokolokoblaszczak 2 года назад
Alex take a look at Dan John easy strength. I think this is the same
@aarons9879
@aarons9879 2 года назад
The RPE static progression sounds a lot like Easy Strength from Dan John and Pavel. (Just sayin, Dan is pretty open to podcast interviews if you ever want to flush it out some. It would be really cool to see you guys kick around some ideas. Especially since his new Easy Strength book is coming out this fall.) In regards to the old Conjugate template you mentioned. It sounds like it might be similar Rogozhkin's system that Pavel wrote about in Power to the People Professional. It is Conjugate with a HEAVY emphasis on recovery and works in a Heavy, Light, Medium, Light, Heavy cycle.
@legrandfromage9682
@legrandfromage9682 2 года назад
Awesome info thanks bromley
@thecowcanon
@thecowcanon 2 года назад
God Tier video as always! Thanks for the lesson coach!
@jcl9034
@jcl9034 2 года назад
Fantastic video man
@ShetharTraining
@ShetharTraining 2 года назад
Great video!
@ClarksvilleBarbellClub
@ClarksvilleBarbellClub 2 года назад
Good talk!
@Pete0621
@Pete0621 2 года назад
Have you considered doing a video on velocity based training?
@pretty_flaco
@pretty_flaco 2 года назад
this works, ive been benching 225# for the last 25 years… fight me
@Uncle_Tijikun
@Uncle_Tijikun 2 года назад
This is one of the best explanation I have ever heard of the concept of "progressive loading" as opposed to "progressive overload" I firstly heard it explained from the Mike T and the guys at barbell medicine but it was over a very long podcast which obviously touched many many points and was more drawn out, while your explanation was as always coincise and straight to the point. I honestly feel the use of anchor sets is a game changer for the intermediate lifter, especially if you come from a NLP background like starting strength etc. Great work as always Alexander 💪💪
@ChadKirk
@ChadKirk 2 года назад
This is what I do to avoid burning out. I stay with a weight/rep until I know for sure I can go farther
@quadratuslumborum822
@quadratuslumborum822 2 года назад
Like that easy progression series
@johntrains1317
@johntrains1317 2 года назад
Would you consider having Ben Pollack on to talk about strength/hypertrophy. Thanks for the vid!
@manicmandownup
@manicmandownup Год назад
Bromley has one of the best pages
@MiroTheHero7
@MiroTheHero7 2 года назад
What do you think of applying a wave loading progression on top sets and step loading on backoffs through a block of training? For example: Week 1 = top set of 5 at 80% and 2 sets of 5 at 75% … Week 4 = top set of 5 at 86% and 5 sets of 5 at 75% Then resetting to week 1 with ~5lbs more on the bar. I’ve had some success with it and wanted to yours or anyone else’s thoughts!
@tjcogger1974
@tjcogger1974 2 года назад
I've done something very similar with weighted pullups and had great success. The only thing I did different is I increased the reps rather than the sets on the backoff sets. So it looked something like this: Week 1 = top set of 5 at 80% and 3 sets of 5 at 75% … Week 4 = top set of 5 at 86% and 3 sets of 8 at 75% Increasing the sets will give you a greater total stimulus, but I've always found that I adapt to rep-ranges very very quickly on most movements. Increasing by one rep/set every week is actually more difficult for me.
@VinnyMickeyRickeyDickeyEddy
@VinnyMickeyRickeyDickeyEddy 2 года назад
APRE system is a good one too
@cheeks7050
@cheeks7050 Год назад
What this video is really missing is the major indicators for when you would use one style over another.
@AlejandroRodriguez-vc3ui
@AlejandroRodriguez-vc3ui 2 года назад
i saw your video about water cutting about three years ago. i was wonder about your thoughts on consuming coffee and alcohol as a way yo get rid of that last bit of water. also, you mentioned egg whites as a food source on thursday, the day before the weigh in. i was wondering, any other foods you’d recommend?
@danredmond5589
@danredmond5589 2 года назад
Running intermediate bullmastiff outlined in Peak Strength… Obviously, it depends on what an individual needs, but what would be your general suggestion in terms of time spent in each phase (base and peak)? 9 to 12 weeks?
@faizanullah5646
@faizanullah5646 2 года назад
It makes sense to stay in the base phase until it feels stale. Build as much muscle and round out your physique before you dial up the intensity.
@danredmond5589
@danredmond5589 2 года назад
Thanks for the advice. I’ve switched from intensity based cycles to hypertrophy work a few times in the past and my strength tends to fall off a cliff after around 6 weeks, so I’m doing westside top sets during this base phase to see if it maintains my strength, so I can stay doing base work for longer without being in a perpetual cycle of gain, lose, gain, lose etc.
@faizanullah5646
@faizanullah5646 2 года назад
How long were you in the base cycles for? Cuz once you get past those dips in strength via deloads you should be getting stronger overall even without the peak phase. There may or may not be significant changed in weight on the bar but you should start to reps, bar speed and fatigue improvements. That will only work if your weights you selected allowed for that run way to go up so make sure you do start light!
@georgesarreas5509
@georgesarreas5509 2 года назад
@@faizanullah5646 there are percentages in the program so I do not see what "starting light" means here.
@georgesarreas5509
@georgesarreas5509 2 года назад
Depends on how much time you have till you compete. If you don't plan on competing then run the peak phase whenever you are certain you got a new pr coming or need a break from the volume/excercises (front squats hurt my elbows after a while)
@SLouiss
@SLouiss 2 года назад
DUP or Separate blocks of hypertrophy and Strength?
@tyronemorales8848
@tyronemorales8848 Год назад
I swear you look like one of the dudes off of PKA
@aspang83
@aspang83 2 года назад
Dan John
@mauricexiberras1530
@mauricexiberras1530 2 года назад
Isn’t this kind of what Eric Bugenhagen does?
@Azarthes
@Azarthes Год назад
feels like something you can only get away with if youre enhanced tbh
@AlexanderBromley
@AlexanderBromley Год назад
What does
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