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@@someoneunknown2003 hey! Place the stylus somewhere over the lead-in groove (the outer edge of your record). Just be aware that if you're too close to the edge, the stylus will miss the lead-in groove and will slip off the record surface. Also: make sure you're using the cue lever to lower the stylus rather than simply placing the stylus on the record by hand. Hope this helps
@@andrewmerritt9113 Although I've not played a 78 since the days when one of my cousins and I used to play them on my aunt's old wind-up Victrola gramophone, I do recall that we pretty much just handled them like you would any modern day record. Try to touch only the edges and/or the label and try not to touch the actual playing surface. After all, why risk getting any dirt/grime in the grooves, potentially affecting playback quality?
Bold of you to assume my hands are big enough to remove a record from the sleeve without touching the sides. -Signed a member of the tiny hands club (I’ll definitely be trying the mitts!)
been taking my vinyl out the same way since i was teenager, im now 56....all play flawless still...and the number of times ive touched the surface of vinyl ive lost count
Yep, I put extra effort into handling my favorite record carefully, and as a result of tip-fingering and delicate handling, I dropped it and ran a huge scratch across one side. It's the only record I remember dropping in 15 years! Still bitter.
Records are more stronger than you think, touching the playing side is not a very big deal as they clean easy but that can be your next video. Just make sure you have clean hands and short nails
I’m a DJ and mine are often dirty and in the rush partially harsh handled. If you are afraid of surface noise or skipping, then the records are stronger than you think… but if you want to keep the surface in a mint condition this is another thing. Records collect easily swirls and small scratches but these are far away from having impact on sound. A lot of my records are from around 2001 and they are in really good shape at least as far the sound quality is concerned
I was a DJ on my college radio station in the early 1980’s. There were over 40 different DJs over the course of a week that handled both LPs and 45s. I can’t tell you how many times I observed DJs holding records by gripping the front and back playing surfaces when placing records on the turntables. There were many records in the station collection that DJs played frequently. As a result of excessive abuse, many of these records had to be replaced with new like every six months or so. Since we only played one cut of an LP at a time, DJs would handle something like 10 to 15 records per hour. Most of the records in the station were filthy. I always cleaned each record I played during my shifts the best I could before playing them. We had three turntables we had to keep cued up at all times as long as the turntables were not broken.
Excellent demonstration; and a very good, useful pad for handling vinyl! The Hudson Hi Fi Record Mitt is certainly a practical, and valuable tool for handling most records.🔉🎵🎶
Thanks! You just answered my question referring to what record brush you recommend. I had asked in the comments section on another video. Audioquest it is then.
As a carbon fibre record brush yes. As a microfibre towel style brush: I use the GrooveWasher ones. Different purposes though. Thanks again for your questions and watching 🎶🎧
Good topic. For the last 30 years I have used soft cotton cloths that are used by glaziers. They are about the same size as a record cover, I never touch or handle my records bare handed.
1. I use mitts, since I have carpel tunnel. It not only keeps the record clean, it also provides a good grip. 2. For countries that have no access to amazon, Ali Express has one that i use. Great video!
My wife and I keep a box of non-zipper sandwich bags on our turntable stand and use them as gloves whenever we handle our records. Our friends and family think we’re crazy but they haven’t invested the money, spent hours in the kitchen cleaning or had the hours of enjoyment we have had either 🎶😎🎶 Thanks! Going to look into the gloves, think my wife will like them.
You're going to get the same result by putting your hand in the inner sleeve, so it isn't going to matter either way. It's all about making sure your hands are clean
I suggest NOT putting you hand inside the inner sleeve to pull the record.... you will be doing the exact same thing you are trying to avoid... you will be transferring what is on your hand onto the inside of the inner sleeve. What you should do, is gently slide the record out of the sleeve, cradling the outer edge with your free hand and supporting the record by putting your index and middle finger of the cradling hand onto the underside of the label. Then, after setting down the inner sleeve use both hands to cradle the outside edge of the label. Again, putting your hands inside the inner sleeve does the same thing as touching the playing surface of the record... you are transferring whatever is on your hand on the inside of the inner sleeve, then onto the playing surface of the record.
Was going to say the same thing. After all the emphasis of not getting your skin oils transferred to the record...you just go ahead an transfer the oil to the inside of the sleeve, which then transfers it to the record. I think I have a similar approach as you do, but perhaps different enough to mention: I take the inner sleeve in my left hand (being right-handed) by the bottom edge, and support the top edge with my right hand, then turn the sleeve top-edge-down. Then rather than removing the record from the sleeve, I more pull the sleeve off the record, which is supported in my right hand. Slowly, of course. It's not a magician's flourish. As soon as the sleeve clears the spindle hole, I place my thumb there and make sure the record is angled so that it will rest in my right hand. Then I set down the inner sleeve and carry on from there as described. As a bonus tip, all techniques will benefit from consistently placing your records with side A facing the front of the inner sleeve, and always place the inner sleeve back in the cover with the front facing...the front. If you do this consistently, and perform the record removal consistently, you will have side A facing up when placing it on the turntable. In my case, I pick up the inner sleeve with the front facing up, which puts my thumb on the side A label. Then when I use both hands it naturally goes side-B-down.
At 1:30 I invert the sleeve and record & let gravity assist. Hand is all opened like you showed. The way I see it you've missed an opportunity to make things easier, and a as a result: greater chance of touching the playing surface
Sounds like a good extra step to me. Universally obviously everyone agrees to avoid the playing surface, but each have their own approach to that fundamental rule. Happy listening 🎶🎧
is there a reason why you put your hand inside the sleeve when bringing the record out? I can only think it is done to prevent the sleeve from rubbing against the record surface, but the other side is unprotected, and arguably now rubs against that side even more. Also, I can see that method bringing dust and oil inside the sleeve I put the palm of my hand on the edge, next to the sleeve opening, and then, with the record now resting its weight on my hand, I lift the sleeve off with my middle and index finger resting on the sleeve, but where the label is. As the sleeve comes off, my fingers land on the label.
Yeah, the back of the hand still has oils. When he's reaching into the sleeve, he is depositing the oils from this hand onto the inside of the sleeve that then touches the playing surface of the record when the record is put back in. Much better to use your method.
you forgot to close the cover while playing the record certainly the most important, also not everyone have big sized hand to handle them like this! Personally i use and can only use the two fingers method! Noise a starting groove aren't so bad after all, love those crackling for a few seconds, and the magic when they slowly stop before the first track start that's recall we're listening to vinyl...
How do I remove a brand new record from the sleeve (if there is no parchment/tissue paper intermediary sleeve)? I find that the record sticks to the sides and comes out scratched quite often.
This is very common with new records in paper sleeves. In this case, you could try using a Milty Zero Stat.The record being in contact with the sleeve will reduce the effectiveness of the process, but it may be enough just to loosen it and avoid scratches.
All good points, however, a few points of personal differences from me. Where the outer sleeve allows, I prefer to line up the openings so I can leave it on to protect the sleeve better. I don’t have an issue with dust getting inside the record, but this is just a personal choice. On playing and avoiding dust, I always play the record with the dust cover down. In terms of feedback to the turntable from airborne vibrations, having no dust cover at all is best. Next is having the lid down. Worst is having the lid up, as it’s perfectly placed to be agitated by the sound waves. I’ll accept the compromise as my turntable has a suspended sub-chassis and it means I never need to brush the surface to keep dust down. Also, there is no chance of accidental damage when playing. Finally, while flipping sides or changing records, I leave the platter spinning. Owners of Rega turntables will be familiar with this technique and I learnt it when I had my Planar 3. It reduces belt wear and also means records with a tight spindle hole can be placed on the platter more easily as they sort of wind on.
Thanks Mark. I hadn’t thought of it that way with the lid, interesting. Different school of thought entirely! There’s logic in that for sure. I tell you when my lid does stay firmly shut though…..when the kids are running around waving toys about 😂😬🎶🎧 Thanks for sharing and happy listening as always
Ah kids! Who’d ‘ave ‘em? My daughter challenged me to get back into records two years ago. Best thing that’s happened to my hi-fi in years. So, in answer to my own question, I would 😁
@@soundmatters For my turntable, I am REQUIRED to have the lid down to play a record, as it is a Technics linear tracking turntable and the tone arm mechanism is part of the lid.
Sound advice, however I am slightly disabled and have effectively use of one hand only so doesn't really help, although I do or have used a modified version of what you say.
@@soundmatters thank you very much. I knew it was a Technics and I knew it was a very very sharp automatic. I am still rocking my 1981 vintage SLQ3. You wouldn't have any discount codes for those would you? Lol.
Can you explain why storing records horizontally would warp them and vertically would not? It makes sense that the opposite would be true. If a record is stored horizontally or flat then the force of gravity would pull on all sides of the record evenly as to where if a record was stored vertically it would be more likely to lean to one side which would cause a greater force on one side of the record than the other which in theory should make it more likely to warp over time. Perhaps you can make an argument that if you stacked enough of them horizontally the ones on the bottom could crack over time but I would think you'd have to stack a lot of them for that to happen.
It’s more a problem when records are stacked on top of each other for long periods of time. The downward pressure causes the records lower down to become mildly dome shaped. I understand your logic though
One thing about touching the label. Even clean hands can put oils and organics on the label. I archived my joy division still with clean hands and didn't touch it for maybe 15 years. The cream colored labels had bright orange finger prints. Maybe the acids turned the gum into a c.s.i. experiment? But I've noticed more than one still copy have the same affect because of the color it's so noticeable.
I tend to think so, too, @fclefjefff4041. If you can pinch the outer edge, and with dry hands, fingers, there is not a lot of oil that can reach the first starter groove. From my experience of handling records it is still safe, for the most part. Anyway, I'm glad, and fortunate to have watched this record video.🔉🎵🎶
@soundmatters Noise you can hear? Get out. Been listening to records since the 80s and still have many from that era and they all sound fine and have not been babied beyond normal common sense to prevent scratches. PVC is not some fragile format that requires special gloves. Only noise I have on records is from the bad pressings that are done now. Quality control in modern vinyl is mediocre at best.
"Don't stack your records..." Record shops didn't get this memo because every record store i've been to where they have shown me their back room stock, or a RU-vid video tour of a record stores back of shop has a ton of records that are stacked lol. I'm not saying it's ok to stack records. Just pointing out what i've seen IRL and online.
One last note....BEFORE even playing that first album of the listening session...Wash the shit out of your hands FIRST....so the amount of oils and grease is reduced IN CASE you do end up touching it.
I understand trying to minimize dirt on the albums and stuff, but so many of these ideas are overkill. I only buy used albums that are in good condition. I can pretty much guarantee that NONE of the albums in my collection were handled like fine china and they all play perfectly fine.
Imagine dj'ing and taking all that time to slip a record out to play it, it would be a long night, most of my records short of a crate or 5 of brand new pressings is 40+ yrs old (funk, reggae, r n b dance/house) and well spun. A good wipe w a damp microfibre cloth forward and back does me fine for 30 yrs.
It literally takes 10 seconds to clean a record, touching a record doesn't hurt it at all and if you put fingerprints on a record when handling it the fingerprints clean off with very little effort.
If you should accidentally touch the record with your finger tips, you should destroy and bin the record and get another copy Seriously 1:24 I've never seen something so cackhanded - just tip the record into your hand !
Ok….first off, it’s MY record collection, I’m using whatever means necessary to get the record on the turntable. And not all of my records are pristine condition. Also, I have had NO PROBLEMS with records lying flat becoming warped..in fact, just the opposite has occurred.
