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This is a wonderfully grounded take on vinyl. It really is an enthusiast thing you do for fun. "The two things that really drew me to vinyl were the expense and the inconvenience"
As a photographer, I've had nearly this same experience within my own world of analogue vs digital- it's super interesting to see nearly all the same points I've found made, but in another medium
Not a photographer, but I've gained interest in shooting film recently, shot my first roll and experienced something that I did not grow up with, the value of pictures. You have 36 exposures, that's it, every shot will be set up meticulously to do it correctly, you are more mindful to what you are shooting for real. This is only my first roll, and I'll hopefully get it from developing from the lab this week, but I sure do hope and will try to shoot more, amazing feeling.
It's very much for discovering music unless you only listen to 'brand-new' stuff all the time. For those who listen to stuff from the vinyl-dominant era, there's way more than one lifetime of records to hear, and lots of them sat in collections where they were played once or never, and many of them are under $5.
For those looking to get in vinyls my recommendation is to go secondhand on your table. You can get some AMAZING tables for cheap if you're willing to maybe replace the needle or something like that. I got an amazing Technics sl-1200 from the 70s for like 80$CAD last summer only had to replace the needle.
I bought a second hand turntable. The very first time I plugged it in, the biggest capacitor in it blew. Smoke went everywhere. No immediate replacements existed anymore. So I sold it back to the original owner at a loss.
if you buy a second hand fully automatic turntable you might need to replace more than just the needle. but even then. it's a simple repair. just a little rubber nub to get the automatic stuff working again :D
I second this, I got a Dual 606 and a Technics 3210, apart from changing the fuse on my Dual and modifying my Technics for 78 rpm they had absolutely no problems at all
Quick notes on old vs. new vinyl. Old vinyl really varies in sound quality. Year can play into it, vinyl made during the oil crisis in the mid-70's can be a bit spottier because more discs were being pressed from reused vinyl, therefore if you're picking up a disc from that era from your local record store, it could very well sound like shit. However, certain pressing plants, such as Monarch records, Columbia's Santa Maria plant, certain pressing plants in the UK, Germany, Italy, and Japan, used higher quality vinyl formulation which lead to thicker and higher quality records. Mosy of the time. And see that's the big crux with older vinyl, it wasn't necessarily made cheaply, but it was produced in far greater quantities back then, meaning certain discs just werent't going to turn out as well for some reason and slip through QC. Especially if you get discs near the end of a stamper's life, it can sound worse. And then once they made new stampers, you get into the issue of represses, generally produced from copy tapes, which obviously have some generational loss. Some of the best sounding records I own are from the 60's, 70's, and 80's (ELP debut first UK pressing, Trick of the Tail first UK pressing, Moonglow by Tatsuro Yamashita, Fragile first UK pressing, etc.) But also some of the very worst sounding records I've heard were pressed in the same exact era. It really varies. When vinyl started to make a resurgence, think 2012 or 2013, these record companies needed to sort of relearn how to press good vinyl, and in addition were dealing with decades old, worn out machinery and masterings that were generally the brick-walled, super-compressed digital masters in use at the time. Because of this, newer vinyl was pretty bad for awhile, but soon you started to get companies like Analogue Productions and Music Matters (along with veterans like Classic Records and MoFi) putting out higher quality 180g and 200g releases from original master tapes, or very high quality digital transfers (digitally sourced vinyl is not inherently bad, in fact if the source is a high quality digital transfer it can sound fantastic). In the years since, more pressing plants have opened up, restored their tooling, and hired genuinely great cutting engineers so that we now have pretty consistent quality. Normal mass-market releases still don't compare to the audiophile releases coming out today, but they are consistently satisfactory to the point where I can buy a new album on vinyl and know it will probably sound pretty good with minimal QC issues, which was not the case even 6 or 7 years ago.
Not to mention that even if you do manage to find a perfectly pressed, well mastered, virgin vinyl disc from back in the day, it only took some lunkhead forgetting one time to flip the stylus on their BSR from "78" to "LP", or to simply play it with a very worn down needle, and suddenly the record sounds like trash no matter what the matrix numbers say. The longer a record has been around, the more opportunity there's been to damage it, and the damage isn't always apparent just by looking at it. I'd estimate that at least 30% of my older vinyl has at least a little bit of damage from the previous owner.
@@BokBarber This is true, especially on inner grooves. I find UK pressed records tend to be the most consistently problematic since a lot of great cuts by people like George Peckham were very hot, and thus were hard for cheaper record players to handle, thus causing repeated mistracking and groove damage. Japanese vinyl from the era tends tl be very consistently high quality and very good condition.
@@aidanb4477This makes allot of sense. I don't have too much experience with overseas records, just a few here and there, but I definitely believe this. My experience in America is a mixed bag, but the two general rules of thumb seem to be 1) the younger the intended audience for the record, the better the chance it's been beaten up and 2) going back any farther than 1970 greatly increases the risk of damage. My handful of original Beatles records follow this to a 'T': their first few records targeted preteens who apparently played them with shards of broken glass. These are damaged as a rule. Their middle albums like "Rubber Soul" and the white album have some damage but are much more listenable. Their last albums like "Let It Be" and "The Beatles Again", closing out the decade and targeting twenty-somethings, have the least damage of all.
@@BokBarber Target audience is an interesting consideration I hadn't thought of but it makes a lot of sense. Increased risk of damage on records earlier than 1970 also makes a lot of sense, as record players tracked at much higher tracking forces and generally used sapphire styli, which would wear out quickly and start to damage the record after being worn out enough. Once better quality record players from Technics, Pioneer, Dual etc. began to become available at lower prices records started to wear out a lot less.
What I’m picking up, vinyl is like classic muscle cars. Inefficient, expensive, beyond obsolete, but *so. much. character* that it’s fun to have around anyway.
No it is very affordable to get into, please do not think this. Unless you are living paycheck-to-paycheck, Vinyl is absolutely a collecting hobby people can get into and record players do not cost a lot. Even then I was still able to pick up a record periodically. You got it partially wrong and I don't want the 100+ people liking your comment to grow with people thinking you got the right take. It's more like straight up choosing a car. You are going to get to your destination either way regardless of the car you pick up: - You CAN go for the higher-end 2023 Lexus 500 IS for starting at over $75,000. - You CAN go for the absolutely affordable and genuinely a good all-around car to drive 2023 Honda Civic that starts at $28,750. Unless you specifically know the differences between the Lexus and the Honda, both are going to drive. They are cars. They drive. Beep Beep. Go to school, pick up some food, get a hooker, anything you need for a car can be done by both cars. One just looks and sounds better doing it. Hell, if you even want to make even more of a car analogy, go to a pawn shop, they have record players. GUARANTEED. I personally have a Victrola record player I purchased because I liked vinyl. Plays all records at all speeds, connects to Bluetooth and has it's own internal (trash) speakers. When connected to speakers, I can't tell the difference between that and any other model. It plays amazing every single time, $85.99 off Amazon. Vinyl isn't expensive if you have a tiny bit of disposable income. If it is "too expensive", you don't have disposable income, sorry.
@@DamienDarkside no. stop telling people to spend money on stupid, frivolous bull shit. it is NOT affordable to get into, anything 'affordable' in terms of hardware is going to fuck your vinyl's. get into vinyl when you got money to burn, shit get a damn good pair of audiophile headphones or some bitchin' speaker monitors instead. VINYL IS A MUSIC MONEY SINK, STOP IT, YOU DORK.
"Beyond obsolete" -- huh? Regular obsolete would mean 'no longer in production and rarely used' but records and players are still being made, never went out of production, and have seen a substantial uptick in popularity recently. 'Beyond obsolete" doesn't even describe 'making fire by hand' accurately'.
@@CKDD83245 I know, there are some players that do have little windows on them. Like I said, specifically top-loader models are likely to have these. I have yet to see a tray-loading player to have one, though.
I’ve been listening to vinyl my whole life, and built up my own collection (including MUSE’s discography). Everything got destroyed in a flood in 2020, and I was absolutely gutted. Some of the vinyl itself was saved, but all the paper was destroyed.
Stay safe buddy! I hope you can take that as an opportunity to start fresh. Materials don't last and that's ok, I believe that as long as you remember the fun times and value it that's all that matters.
9 months ago this video made me decide NOT to get into vinyl because it would sure as hell ruin me financially. 2 months ago I got into vinyl anyway and it ruined me financially, but it was worth every cent I've wasted so far, and every cent I still have to waste on it
"It's not about sound quality, it's about vibe quality" correct. This is why I collect audio cassette tapes. I need the grainy staticy hum and mechanical noises over the top of my music. Pure 100% top lo-fi vibe quality. And yes, like you, I only collect my faves on tape. Great video!
Funny how the shitty cassette players end up having stronger vibe quality. I have a d6c (hand me down, I'm not rich) and with dolby c noise reduction the thing sounds like a cd
The fun in cassettes for me is how wildly the quality varies. For a fraction of the price an LP costs these days, you can roll the dice on a tape and get sound quality that's anywhere between absolutely wrecked and the cleanest thing you've ever heard. I have a Doobie Brothers tape that sounds better thru my late 70s analog rig than FLACs in my modern digital rig.
@@ratman262 It's hilarious how right you are about that. I picked up a few new (to me) tapes the other day, and they ran the gamut from literally unplayable garbage-like they actually slowed the player to a stop-to ones so crisp I heard new parts of music I'd head dozens of times before. It's like a musical slot machine.
I agree, i have a sony tc-rx311 which is a lower end machine but with some nice type iis and dolby c on its close enough to digital that a lot of the time i forget im listening to a cassette lol
What you said at 6:08 is so accurate, I recentley refurbished a walkman and I find myself listening to whole cassettes of music that I'd skip on spotify. It really does make you appreciate the art more
This is why I listen to vinyl, cassettes and CD's. Like you said, it really made me appreciate albums more, even though I still also use Spotify I listen to whole albums a lot more. Then I got vinyl at home, Walkman on the go and CD's in the car.
Same here. I have NEVER been the type of person to enjoy albums in full. I take songs i like from them and put them in my favorite playlists and forget about the other songs. But when i picked up vinyl, i really felt like i was able to sit down and appreciate everything.
Except walkmans can skip tracks... They literally have a whole thing for it... It's called AMS... Most walkmans have that since Sony invented the tech... I mean most Vinyl players post 1970 could skip tracks as well... anyone that's watched enough techmoan should know that by now. They basically work that when it goes onto a song you dont like you press "next" and it goes to the next chunk of silence.
I've been collecting vinyl records for about 3 years now, and it's been incredibly fun doing so. And this video does an excellent job getting into the nitty gritty of vinyl playing & collecting.
Aye! It's daniel T. I've been watching since the mario undertale days. I remember when you kept trying to convince everyone you were a pyro clone. Good shit man
I love my vinyls. I inherited my dads old collection, and he was a music freak. If I were to listen to every record in a row, it would take three solid months. And every single one is different, not just is what is on them, but they in how they sound. They have skips and pops and scratches in different places. Some are heat warped, some aren’t. Some sound better at 33 then they do at 45. Some have been purposefully warped to create an endless loop of one song. Some of them date back to the late 40’s, and some were made in the late 1990’s It’s just magical having a piece of history that you can actually listen to. Something that has been held by dozens of people that have been listened to for decades. And every single one has a story.
I don't own records. I own a collection of Edison diamond discs. Those are true ancient pieces of history. One of the oldest media formats, meant to compete with the first vinyl records. I got the discs from my great grandmother, and the player was actually found at a thrift store I volunteered at. The strangest coincidence led to the strangest piece in my audio setup
@@Henk8118 Please don't purposely damage your or your dad's records like this lol. What an odd thing for that guy's dad to do. If my dad just wanted one song, he bought a single or recorded the song to a tape.
@@Henk8118 yeah, it’s got a little heat bubble where someone held a lighter under it. It’s not perfect and it does skip a couple seconds here and there, but it works! I wouldn’t recommend doing it these days since records aren’t produced as widely anymore. But apparently back in the 70’s and 80’s when they were more vastly produced it was fairly common if you couldn’t afford a single, you just warped an album.
The only thing that interests me personally about vinyl is the big beautiful album covers, that actually display the album art properly and large enough that you can see it and appreciate it. But buying vinyls just for the cover is silly and wasteful, and just having a collection of covers with no vinyls is like collecting barbie dolls without the heads, it's just weird. So maybe one day I will get a turntable and try it out, LOL
for me at least, i buy it to show support for smaller artists i like who will probably not get or have many people having their vinyl. also to flex how epic and definitely not how bad i am with money lmao
@@socialchum I throughly believe my vinyl collection is a testament to how stupid I am with my money. I mean, I love that I have them. And I can proudly say that I have some rare discs. But they they’re what I call a ‘stupid money’ purchase. After I’ve paid my bills, after I’ve bought food n shit, I let myself have some money I can be stupid with. Which is why I have a box set of Walt Disney’s Fantasia from the ‘50s.
@@puffitale my proudest stupid vinyl is probably the talking heads self titled record. people say the cover's ugly but it's uglier in real life, even though i love it
@@socialchum Cool! My Fantasia set has beautiful watercolour artwork that’s different from the typical Sorcerer’s Mickey that they now use everywhere, plus it has a recreation of the Deems Taylor booklet that they gave out when the movie was first release. Due to its age, it looks like absolute dogshit, but it was the first piece of music I ever fell in love with, so I have to have it.
YES! Exactly. I found myself listening to the whole album, start to finish, when bought my first vinyl record. It's totally different, it's like throwback to childhood when you buy a casette tape, and it says "Toxicity" on it, and you don't have any clue what the hell this band is sounds like, but record store guy assured you that it is freakin' amazing. And you listen to it. Over and over again, start to finish. I think I started appreciating music a lot more with vinyl. This is the point. Neither the sound nor it's "warmth" (although it kinda warm, yeah)
I've been collecting vinyl since high school, because it truly felt like I owned the music, and I really like how they made a comeback today since they're more accessible now. I hated ordering limited edition vinyl online and UPS destroying it though. RIP to that Frank Ocean Blonde vinyl, you'll be missed :(
My neighbor, four years older than me has 600+ records. I love classic rock, but I also like new music. I hope he can get Porter Robinson & Madeon - Shelter (2016) on vinyl, cos those '80s synths would go well with the warm vinyl crackles. I found the song on YT a few months ago, and it sounds so ahead of its time. :) The cost though, $280? R u kidding me brother? That costs more than a new iPod, or a new Android. Capitalism my guy, it succs sometimes. Also, UPS sucks major butt. They sometimes never deliver on time, they break stuff, like your record (and also expensive kitchenware), and they now apparently charge for 13% surcharge due to rising fuel prices ($4.50/gal here in the US for diesel). The CEO Carol Tome has $141 million bucks as of 3/8/22, can't he pay for the fuel. Lol... I am so glad I don't buy stuff online or ship stuff. There is an official webpage for UPS rants, can you guess the title?
I like how he gets so much wrong... Like "fold out" ... oh... Not Gatefold. They were mass made and that's why they were poor... Oh not the technology improved and you got different grades... There were even movies on vinyl towards the end... But okay. Bless him. Like he called it needle... Not a stylus. A needle. Bless. I wouldn't mind but I have only just finished Uni so yeah... Tells you that perhaps it isn't an age thing... Just an awareness thing. I think if he heard a white label it would blow his mind.
And technically if you get a White Label you do own it. It's like the master. People Just Do Nothing do a BAFTA masterclass where they talk about how hard it was to get music for the show because in their genre (old school garage and D&B) a lot of the music is underground and so many white labels that nobody knows who owns what and so the BBC blanket licence didn't cover them so they ingeniously remixed the songs enough for it to be classed as their own artistic interpretation.
Just like you said, digital for the most of it but vinyl for those exquisite albums that just stop your world in its tracks. Don't care how bad it sounds, it's a whole experience. The album art, the smell, the fell of the disk, the heartbeat just before you release that needle and then bliss...
Also the whole thing about operating the player. It's about being fun, not about sounding better. Same as what I do with CDs (...no space for anything else at home frankly), compared to just playing the .FLAC file. Frankly the same can be said about any physical medium for anything. It's just a heck lot more fun (plus, actually having it with you without being dependent on Internet or the benevolence of companies allowing you to use what you paid for).
Yes, yes... I do enjoy a splendid tranquil evening of pouring myself some chardonnay, putting on my favorite vinyl record, and sitting down in my robe to listen to the subtle expert notes of Guerilla Radio.
I stray far, far away from cassettes just because of how fragile and self-destructive they are. Vinyl records tend to have a good life span if you take good care of them. Tapes, by comparison, wear out more quickly over time, even if you don't touch them for years. Maintenance is also pretty much out the window since you can't spot clean them like vinyl, lest they suffer water damage. It's like a built-in self-destruct sequence that you can't do a thing about.
"It's like a campfire". Man, you are *good* with words. Now I want to have some guests over for a nice conversation around a spinning vinyl. Playing soft instrumental music, of course.
I grew up with vinyl in the 70s and, like so much of my formative years, while I have fond memories -- snapping off the shrink wrap, opening up the gatefold sleeve, admiring the artwork and reading the liner notes -- I happily moved on when the time came. Yes, you nailed it, by the late 70s, the discs were thin and cheaply made (Japanese imports were the much sought-after thing) and it didn't help that I could only afford the shittiest second hand record player with an arm so heavy the needle dug out the grooves as it went along. I have no desire for the cracks, the pops and skips inherent in the format (one album I had -- ELO's debut -- had a skip so ingrained that I was amazed when I eventualy heard the missing middle eight that had been hidden from me for so long). As time went on, into the 80s, it got even worse and I understand the record companies were complicit in forcing consumers to move to the CD format by making the vinyl as cheap and shoddy as possible, filling it even with cardboard. I got two vinyl records in the mid-80s that I had to return immediately, as they had chips in them when I took them out of their sleeves. I love CDs -- I still do, really, and the fact that I don't have to get up and turn the disc over for the second side is a big plus, and once they got their act together and stopped bunging out inferior CD copies of albums just for the dosh and realised that they actually had to put some effort into it, they were great. Then I started ripping them into MP3s, then OGGs, then lossless FLACS for my portable music player that I carry with me, and live in wonder that the albums I once marveled the artwork for and listened on a scratchy turntable in my little bedroom, I can now listen to in perfect fidelity on the go, on the train or the tube or anywhere in my house. I've even started downloading high-res editions of old classics, and bask in the sonic beauty. (but I don't stream -- no no no). Meanwhile, my granddaughter just turned 13 years old, and her main request for a present? A record player. My wife and I gave her a pile of our old vinyl as a starter kit.
@@joeyxl8712 what does that have to do with what he’s talking about lmfao. mans just wrote one of the most wholesome youtube comments i’ve ever read and the one reply is the most random thing i’ve ever heard
@@joeyxl8712 I originally ignored your response 'cos I didn't see the relevance, but I should have answered, and apologise for the delay. I have absolutely no memory of Voyager 1 being launched, but I'm guessing I might have seen it.
1:39 Gotta love how Avid charge more than 2 grand for a turntable and they could only muster up one of the cheapest Audio-Technica cartridges you can find (the AT3600L) to bundle in with it lol
welcome to in-person audio shops, frankly. these are the same places that upcharge the snot out of HDMI cables when doing custom installations just because the customers in that price bracket will barely notice the $9k extra hit.
While it may demonstrate the competence of the cartridge, it is still a letdown! Conical stylus and a lower output than some cartridges. That table is crying out for an MC cartridge with an exposed cantilever. Something dainty and graceful.
@@Vacated204 Of course not, but in this case, they do seem to have stripped it down to the minimum necessary functions and dialed them in as much as possible. Sure it's still overpriced but I can't blame them considering how willingly audiophiles throw money at equipment like this. For what it's worth being a belt-drive isn't necessarily a bad thing. A thin round belt like this is probably the most reliable method to uncouple as much vibration as possible from the platter, something that would be absolutely unavoidable with direct drive or a toothed belt. If the difference between a very small amount of vibration and close to none makes an appreciable difference to the sound quality though I couldn't say.
I can say. That minute amount of vibration masks the ambiance, the softest harmonics, the breath of the performer. However, for albums by Metallica and Judas Priest, I doubt if it makes much difference after all…😂
I just recently found a vinyl player (Dual CS 721 „Made in Germany“) on the rooftop of my parents house, and my dad allowed me to take it with me and told me that he got it for pretty cheap from a friend when he studied in Hamburg. Now I have already 9 Vinyls and all of them I got for a price of 2€ to 5€ at some second hand shops in my town.
"Absolution" was such an amazing album. It also marked the end of the era where I could tell people that the best unknown band I'd ever heard was Muse.
Definitely a top 5 album for me, also up there is Black Holes and Revelations. I remember when muse were in a battle of the bands thing in Exeter, and lost.
I had a fanboy moment at the Absolution album you showed. It’s an all time favorite of mine, so it was really cool to see the inside of the vinyl cover for it
I remember saying to my parents "let's build a vynil collection!" and they enthusiastically told me i buy a couple of records and they would buy the turntable. I come home with the new foo fighters album for me and a great 70's italian pop album they love, plus a couple of classics and a jazz record. They got the worst turntable they could manage to get, it has inbuilt speakers they suck and if you connect a jack it get WORSE
I just love your enthusiasm for music. I used to devour whole albums at a time and really take it all in. Haven't done that in years, but your enthusiasm is contagious.
SOMETHING TO NOTE WITH VINYL due to the nature of the disc, you can't spat a loud CD master onto it without it causing problems. this can lead to some records sounding "better" because the mastering is calmer. a caveat of this is that a lot of pressing plants/ labels aren't very transparent if they've handled mastering themselves, or if it's just an EQ'd version of the digital/ CD master. my favourite part of vinyl is tracking down original presses and AAA records, those can sound really special. It's a super deep rabbit hole to go down, but a very cool one. fanx danks, this is a good video (as usual)
Partially true, but there are many instances of compressed CD transfers to vinyl. The medium distorts the sound into what looks like a "dynamic" waveform, but it's still the same audio
@@jimmymcgill2961 It is, especially since there's not a massive "FIRST PRESS" on the disk. Sometimes you can deduct it from some number on the cover, but there's often no way to know if the cover still contains the original disk, it might have been replaced in those 50 years. So you'll basically have to research how to spot the differences per album
Your point about the fussiness is so spot on! I love the way vinyl makes me appreciate an album as a whole a lot more, and searching through the cabinet for whats going to be next instead of just shuffling through my playlist. Same goes for all kinds of stuff, got rid of my Nespresso pod machine for a manual setup with grinder, manual espresso machine, etc. I love taking time for the things I love to experience it better and in the end making me happier. It's not all about fast and easy for many people anymore.
Also the opposite: buy the digital, get the physical by paying shipping. Yes, I know there's more costs involved, but damn lack of the physicals even existing for some stuff is sad.
One time I bought a new record from the store, released a year prior. I was really hyped because it had a huge hype sticker saying "THIS COMES WITH WAV DOWNLOAD CODES!!" and... it actually did! ...but they were expired. Nothing crushes the soul quite like it.
I've been collecting vinyl records since 2018 I've now got a collection of around 500 and counting. For me it brings the fun and more personal connection to the music since you have to pay attention or you'll damage it.
@@Orcastruck I find it kinda funny the thing vinyl music lovers used to say about CDs is what people love about vinyl now. Back in the day when CD was first being adopted people used to put CDs down because of how fragile a CD was, stating that vinyl was much tougher and harder to damage and therefore better. Now people are taking this former negative as a positive. It's interesting the shift in perspective that 30 years can bring. I think vinyl is a great way to listen to music, especially to hear something in a different mood/vibe.
Omg, where did you get that many albums? I've been into this since 2016 and I only have like 15 lol (Well, they are quite expensive in my country so...)
I wrote an essay in philosophy class (yeah, I know) about technology's impact on our lives and I singled out on that exact thing you're describing with how vinyl "forces" you to go away with the skipping and overall more "throw-away" nature of digital. Objectively there is no reason why one should prefer Vinyl over digital, there is no reason companies couldn't just release the "vinyl mix" of their records on a lossless file format, but the physicality of vinyl still makes it great. Even more now than ever, as our lives become increasingly fast paced and our online existence ever more esoteric, vinyl really does a great deal in grounding you in reality and I think it's obvious why it's seen such a major resurgence.
I’m glad he got into vinyl now because back then, their self titled album was only available as a bootleg vinyl. I don’t think Dankpods would’ve liked that lol
@@dalemau5 Meanwhile I grabbed a copy of their self-titled CD, _forgot to pay for it_ and played that in my XBOX while blasting in Quantum Redshift. No alarms, no fuss, no nothing. Just walkin' out with a CD.
Lmao they saw you coming a mile away - props to the guys at the store for making you pay 5x more than you needed to. All you needed was a Project Primary and a Schiit Mani. $529 and I guarantee you wouldn't be able to hear a difference between it and the player and pre-amp you bought.
One of my reasons for listening to vinyl, on top of the fun aspects like the experience and the artwork, is that I can support my favorite artists since I know music streaming services aren't helping them thrive
exaclty this. all the vinyl i have, i can listen on spotify but actually knowing I supported an artist I enjoy, gives the music another layer. Also it's so fun when you managed to get limited editions. Knowing you're 1 in a 1000 (for example) that have that specific record is pretty cool
I got into vinyl semi recently, and all I can say is: I LOVE THE SPIN. Sounds good, fun to own physical music on cool records, and it spins. So Perfect
@@Orcastruck Yeah, I bought a picture disc 45 of Anthrax's "I Am the Law" used many years ago. I was super excited to listen to it, but it was really scratchy. I cleaned it and cleaned it, but was a basket case. $5 bucks down the drain? Hardly! It's got a badass picture of Judge Dredd on it, and the disc *is* the album cover, so I just display the disc.
@@Orcastruck Yeah and you can sell it later when it's worth more or you don't want it anymore, unlike selling your soul to Spotify which goes away the second you stop paying them. What I fear is my records getting stolen or damaged, if that were to happen I would be so devastated that I would quit collecting. Some I would never be able to find again or would be very expensive. At least digitally I wouldn't lose anything if something were to happen to my phone or PC.
I’m so glad you’re getting into vinyl. I’ve had a player since December with a few albums and I absolutely love just sitting back and listening to it play. I have a few old discs to but they’re worth the antique sound that comes with the age.
I always had vinyl at home, my dad was a big fan. I remember being super excited the first time he let me use it, because it was absolutely drilled in to my brother and I that it was no joke and easy to destroy. Felt like I'd grown up being able to swing that arm.
I had the exact opposite experience. My mother treated most of her old records like yesterday's garbage in the 90s (why should she care about records when CDs were the future) so she let me play with them like toys. I had a cheap portable record player and for sure ruined some discs, but the exposure eventually lead me to collect records later in life.
This talk about the same experience with a different vibe has really made me want to listen to my old iPod again. Thanks DankPods! I'll need to actually find it first, though...
Mate I'm proud of you. I've been into vinyl for years and it always warm my heart seeing somebody else give it a go! _But nothing beats that warm, clammy feeling you get from the first time you wear it._
He also has a copy of the self-titled album and Toxicity on cassette in his other channel's video about a metal band shooting a video in his warehouse.
@@ronbali3429 I know. Genocidal Humanoids sounded like it could have been on their first record, and Protect the Land sounded like it was off Mezmerize/Hypnotize. I'm thankful for at least those tracks, but a full album would be amazing. Daron Malakian recorded some songs he wrote for the next potential SOAD album, and they're on his second record, Dictator. Unfortunately, Serj doesn't want to record any more albums with System. I'm lucky to have seen them live in 2015 and 2019, and they were incredible. Just wish they'd hit the studio together again.
POV: 2K turntable has a 10 dollar stylus and its unbranded too if you would connect the phono preamp to your lp60x it would sound bassicly the same as your avid
For me the love of vinyl comes from the process. Listening to records is slow and time consuming but that process has made me fall in love with music all over again.
Honestly the biggest reason I got into vinyl was to experience my fav albums in entirely different ways, but it was those beautiful massive album covers and artwork that really make me love it. And to hold my favorite music in my hand really is mesmerizing.
Heyo, long time 1 GRIT fan! I've been collecting vinyl for over 10 years now and it's so cool to get to see people's enthusiasm discovering it all for the first time (it's a plastic circle that you *drag a little rock across* to make noise!). I wanted to offer some of my favorite things about collecting, as well as some tips for beginners on a budget! Things I love about collecting vinyl (not an exhaustive list, and this is also in addition to everything you highlighted): - connecting more with the music and artist. From lyric sheets, to additional art, pictures, notes, posters, inserts of all kinds, the larger format allows artists to include more besides just the music. Like bonus features, but for your favorite albums! - better funding for the artists you love! A $28 record is going to support the artist much more than a 0.000000000001¢ stream will, and you're getting a piece of art you can hold on your hand for the deal, not a stream of a fine that would go away should you not pay a monthly fee. - collecting stuff is just nice. You should try it 😄 Some tips for beginners on a budget: Getting a viable and cheap stereo setup can be way easier than you'd think! The equipment that was A+ in the 90's usually wasn't built poorly, and will still sound and work great in a modern setup. A TON of people that kept very good care of their equipment will give it to places like Goodwill, or sell it for cheap at garage sales. I personally have gotten all but my turntable, center channel speaker and preamp from Goodwill, and I've never been disappointed. A very quality 5.1 receiver from the early 2010s cost me around $30, you can easily find a good pair of bookshelf speakers for $10-$25 a pair, a subwoofer will usually be one of the priciest bits, closer to $50+ (but definitely something most can live without or pick up later), and a roll of speaker wire will be $5-$10 and you're ready to jam! Bonus, you likely now have a seriously solid home theater setup too 👌 - when it comes to buying your first albums, there aren't really any wrong answers, this is about what you enjoy and are interested in. I've been collecting over a decade, and there are still many albums that I'm sure many people would describe as "essential for any collection" that I still don't have, and many albums that I'm sure most would not consider worth much, that I've spent a solid chunk of change to acquire, and that's okay, because I love what I have, and that's what's important. If you want to start your collection by picking up 10 classic used albums from a thrift store, go for it! If you want to start your collection by pre-ordering your favorite artists upcoming new album on vinyl, go for it! Enjoy! 🫶💎🎚️🎧
I wish he connected the headphones to the vinyl player and used "The freakish ears on a stick" to let us listen to the vinyl while he had a split screen showing us the vinyl go round in circles, woulda been an amazing experience, great video DankPods :)
I'm a vinyl man through my mother and if I'm at home I'll always pop on a vinyl. Gotta say the system of a down album from 1998 is down right my favourite listen :)
Yeah. I started a year ago with an AT-LP60XBT and some AudioEngine speakers. I love just popping my favourite album on in my office and listening while working.
I absolutely love your view on vinyl, where it doesn't sound better than digital, but it still sounds amazing in its own way. I was hoping you'd get into vinyl one day, so I'm glad you're enjoying it!
The funniest part of that statement is that it’s factually incorrect depending what platform it was originally made for. This is the only video I’ve disliked by him because it’s full of false statements because he refused to research and fact check what he was told.
Let's be honest: lots of music online sounds awful because it's badly digitally compressed and has easily-heard digital artifacts and sounds flat. The idea of 'digital is better' hinges entirely on digital music actually BEING better-sounding than other formats, and it rarely approaches, let alone exceeds, CD quality. It's highly disingenous when an argument pits 'the average person's pops-and-clicks casual vinyl experience vs. 32-bit floating point studio quality digital', when reality is 'most digital music is about convenience over sound quality, and people who know how to use records properly can for-sure get better sound quality than average streaming'.
Watching this makes me realize the similarities between Audio and Photography. Most people know digital pictures are better but a bunch still choose to shoot film for those vibes.
The thing you said about setting time away for things is SO applicable. I do the same with things which have WAY less overhead than vinyl- cassettes, CDs, heck even reel to reels if thats your jam! Anytime i want to experience music- mainly with CDs (because im dragging my feet on replacing the needle in my record player), i grab a cd, and sit down with it and listen. Because that little bit of extra work just feels good.
I absolutely love vinyl for the physical aspect of it all. It's an experience getting an album ready to play. Then you have the beautiful artwork that comes along with most to admire while you enjoy your tunes. I really appreciate when artists include the digital download or the CD with the vinyl for new and re-releases. Best of both worlds!
Got a vinyl player for christmas because I had ordered two vinyls from one of my favorite artists (Lauren Bousfield babygirl I love you) because they were for sale and I thought they were pretty, and after receiving them I decided I actually did want to have a listen. I never saw this video you made about it until just now, but I independently arrived at the exact same conclusions you did. It's not about the quality, it's about how *magic* they are. People say they're shitty because you can't get dust on them, or if there's some random vibration you can hear it, but I honestly love hearing the bits of dust on the vinyl and being able to lightly tap the player to hear the thump it causes. These things make it feel like the closest you can get to being able to lovingly caress a medium that inherently is not a physical one. It's an imperfect expression of the medium, but the imperfections feel like those a person might have; the imperfections that make them feel like a living, breathing human
One of my earliest memories is being in the basement, playing "Home on the Range" again and again on my parents' old victrola. I wonder if they still have the disk....
my grandparents have a turntable and i always think about seeing it and being curious about it. and here i am 10+ years later, a vinyl collector and listener myself
What gets me about Vinyls is that it's an uninterrupted, unmistakable experience. A full album, a fully choreographed experience, as it was intended. It's like reading a book, watching a movie, seeing a story unfold. It feels like the raw, most bare experience you can have with the music you love.
"as it was intended" dude do you really think the artist really care how you listen to their music? or that they wouldn't have chosen other better formats such as CD or FLAC if they ahd teh chance to?
@@Jasonwithadot I mean, there are albums like Antimai by The Dear Hunter, or Take Me Back To Eden by Sleep Token, which are set up like a progressing story. Of course, there are also albums that aren't made for a front to back listen, but those that are, are worth experiencing that way.
Vinyl has absolutely nothing to do with that, you could do that with literally any music format including streaming. Obviously listening to an album in full is similar to reading a book, but you can always just skip a chapter. That's up to you, the paper doesn't decide for you. You can always skip tracks on record players, and you can just not skip tracks on Spotify.
I've never stopped listening to entire albums at a time. It's the only way I listen to music. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one when I see some short transitional track with a tiny fraction of the listens as its neighboring tracks on spotify. You better believe I'm listening to that one too.
It’s so true. I don’t keep vinyl myself, since my brother basically has a music conservatory of a living room, but I just love to put on a record and watch it go round and round while admiring the packaging. You really explain it well by saying “It’s like a campfire”. And yeah, modern vinyl sounds so crisp and the discs have real heft to them.
I just took 3 tests this morning and I just finished. I’m tired and stressed but one thing that makes me going is your Chanel! Thank you DankPods. - PS I live in New Zealand 🇳🇿 Country Neighbors!
I've actually started using vinyl to discover new music. If I see an album cover that interests me or a coloured record, I pick it up. Found some great artists that I'm not sure I would've discovered otherwise.
When I was in college I used to close my eyes and buy a random record out of the "new releases" bin every month or so. It was honestly a great way to discover new music. I think that's how I first heard the Fleet Foxes.
@@BokBarber Great recommendation. I'll definitely get them on the to-buy list. Check out Black Pumas or Superfood if you haven't heard them already. Two that I hadn't heard of prior to owning their LPs.
II do the same. My local record store, Orbit Music, has a section of vinyl that's 25 cents for the EPs and singles, and 50 cents for the LPs. It's all the records he gets that don't have covers, sometimes messed up labels, or maybe they have a skip or two. I'll go in about once a month, spend about $5, and sometimes he'll even let me grab like 2-3 extras for free. I always find at least 2-3 records that I enjoy. Occasionally, I find one that I enjoy enough to buy a better copy of.
My mom, dad and I are Technics enthusiasts and we have Technics turntables, even I have one at my place. I think they sound amazing and I love the whole routine of taking the vinyl out carefully, placing it on the turntable, turning it on and gently using the vinyl brush to collect all the dust, pressing that button and watching the arm come to life. I don’t discriminate against any way of listening to music but I highly recommend vinyls. It’s an entirely different experience.
Thank you for explaining exactly my same opinion on vinyl, my favorite albums I buy in vinyl have been electronic music made in the digital age but due to the mixing is just a separate experience, and physically taking care of music is a cathartic experience
This is the exact same reason I love my 1970's Sony reel to reel tape recorder. Excellent sound quality and I get to see two discs spin slowly around and VU meters dancing to the bass.
I’m someone who listens to Spotify and CDs, that “It’s not the sound quality, it’s the vibe quality” is the perfect explanation. That’s my reason for listening to CD because it feels good to pop in a disc and just chill. I love it! I use Spotify for music on the go 👍
0:44 Sun is shinin' in the sky There ain't a cloud in sight It's stopped rainin' everybody's in the play And don't you know It's a beautiful new day, hey hey Runnin' down the avenue See how the sun shines brightly in the city On the streets where once was pity Mr. Blue Sky is living here today, hey hey Mr. Blue Sky please tell us why You had to hide away for so long (so long) Where did we go wrong? Mr. Blue Sky please tell us why You had to hide away for so long (so long) Where did we go wrong? Hey you with the pretty face Welcome to the human race A celebration, Mr. Blue Sky's up there waitin' And today is the day we've waited for Oh Mr. Blue Sky please tell us why You had to hide away for so long (so long) Where did we go wrong? Hey there Mr. Blue We're so pleased to be with you Look around see what you do Everybody smiles at you Hey there Mr. Blue We're so pleased to be with you Look around see what you do Everybody smiles at you Mr. Blue, you did it right But soon comes Mr. Night creepin' over Now his hand is on your shoulder Never mind I'll remember you this I'll remember you this way Mr. Blue Sky please tell us why You had to hide away for so long (so long) Where did we go wrong? Hey there Mr. Blue (sky) We're so pleased to be with you (sky) Look around see what you do (blue) Everybody smiles at you
I grew up right in the middle of the CD-MP3 transition, and I've recently got into vinyl. I've got an incredibly entry-level player (literally a suitcase model with a built-in speaker) but it still sounds great to my ear, and I just love it. The little ritual of cleaning the disk, setting it on the turntable, and lowering the needle onto the disk is really pleasant, and I like the little crackles and pops in the background. I definitely agree with you on the "modern disks are way better" point though. I've got a recent Paul Simon collection, and the disk just feels so much weightier and higher quality than some of the paper-thin disks from the late '80s.
Records like that hold a special place in my heart. For years I used a Newcomb record player in my warehouse when I got sick of using my headphones. I ended up selling it and my record collection when I lost my job and fell on hard times at the start of 2021. Things are looking up but i miss that record player and my Marty Robbins album most of all.
I got into vinyl a couple years ago, I only buy 180 gram albums because They feel better in the hand. There’s just something magical of watching the needle hit the vinyl, it truly is a beautiful way to listen to your favorite songs. I can’t tell a difference in the quality from my computer, something about holding the music in your hands makes it feel different