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how to harmonise a melody like a romantic composer 

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knowing how to add chromaticism in harmony is a tool every composer should be aware of. in this video we'll be exploring a few different methods of doing so by harmonising a simple melodic extract.
melody fragment taken from 300 texts et réalisations - RAYNAUD Jean-Claude.

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@anled.composition
@anled.composition Год назад
Amazing how a few chromaticisms move the melody somewhere else !
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex Год назад
often, just by changing the harmony we open new paths to the melody we hadn't seen before!
@BORN753
@BORN753 Год назад
Agree, adding chromatic notes made the biggest difference for me. Especially the first one, that got removed in the final version.
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji
@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 4 месяца назад
That's how the likes of Scriabin (in his early and middle periods) and Feinberg composed.
@ethangrieshop9405
@ethangrieshop9405 Год назад
It almost feels like you started in the early romantic period like with Beethoven and moved into a later romantic style with this line, ultimately sounding more Schumann-esque
@joebloggs396
@joebloggs396 Год назад
Many would say Beethoven is a classicist.
@vincent-ataramaniko
@vincent-ataramaniko Год назад
​@@joebloggs396nobody would say that
@yriiiiiii
@yriiiiiii Год назад
​@@vincent-ataramanikohe is often thought of as the bridge between classicism and romanticism as he took inspiration from haydn and mozart but also later from 1812 started moving to a more expressive form. Saying he is a thought of as a classicist is therefore not wrong per se, but just reductive
@vincent-ataramaniko
@vincent-ataramaniko Год назад
@@yriiiiiii haydn and mozart were romantic in many of their last works. The early Beethoven sonatas were already romantic as well, Beethoven kept many classical aspects but was a romantic first and foremost
@papapowley560
@papapowley560 Год назад
@@vincent-ataramaniko wrong
@adam.r2153
@adam.r2153 Год назад
This video is incredible! The style is straightforward and clear. More please???
@JREwing-fn8my
@JREwing-fn8my Месяц назад
Fantastic video
@sova45654
@sova45654 Год назад
This is crazy useful! I definitely struggle with harmonising from a given melody, especially in a romantic style, but this is super clear. Thanks for all the help :)
@TheAsianTree
@TheAsianTree Год назад
Am I the only one who loves the first one? Tbf, I love the classical styles of Mozart, Haydn, and Paganini to death, and that cadential 6/4 felt very homey and nostalgic.
@laurant4282
@laurant4282 Год назад
It could be used as a very good storytelling device. The firsy one being at the beginning of the story, set in the home of the protagonist. The final one is returning to home after a long journey, or even after people living in the home have passed away, or the home having been destroyed/lost...
@artiemixx9319
@artiemixx9319 6 месяцев назад
The first one excels in its simple elegance. Oftentimes in music, less is best. The final product is also melodic and evokes a different feeling.
@mitsuki1388
@mitsuki1388 5 дней назад
Both are completely valid and invoke different feelings so it all depends on context
@vari1535
@vari1535 3 дня назад
The first is also great, just perhaps not romantic specifically.
@andrewcass9177
@andrewcass9177 Год назад
A lot of this went over my head, but I really enjoyed just listening to the changes and hearing you explain them. Thanks for broadening my musical palate!
@starkeeper
@starkeeper Год назад
You're a great source for quick, easy-to-digest music content. As a fellow composer, stuff like this is incredibly useful when it comes to opening into deeper study and utilising techniques like this in my own writing! Like man, I could've adapted some of these ideas when I was working on my symphony!
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex Год назад
the fact that you've written a symphony is by large a great feat already in and of itself!
@jackaguirre8576
@jackaguirre8576 10 месяцев назад
I actually enjoyed the example at 1:14 the most, with the suspension and appoggiatura in the Violin II. That first suspension is beautiful.
@999spicy
@999spicy 4 дня назад
is it a real song?
@leonardo.labrada
@leonardo.labrada Год назад
I loved it! It feels like you switched on/off the Brahms plugin
@carlosmendez6729
@carlosmendez6729 Год назад
Thank you for playing the examples several times it really helped me understand what you were doing. ❤
@artieghatavi416
@artieghatavi416 Год назад
Great video. After you added the interrupted cadence I was screaming at the screen "that doesn't sound resolved anymore!! AGH" which I suppose is the point :) . Interesting food for thought in my own improvisation.
@dan_936
@dan_936 Год назад
lol ikr same
@dantrizz
@dantrizz Год назад
I've started learning to compose properly recently and this is like the perfect thing for me to find. Thank you
@alecrechtiene558
@alecrechtiene558 Год назад
This kind of video makes you realize how similar Romantic composers are to Jazz.
@uufruity
@uufruity Год назад
Beginner pianist here! This was so impressive to watch as you build up a simple romantic melody to something even more beautiful and interesting! It truly makes me fall in love with classical (romantic-era) music all over again :)
@user-wl4ct8pl3s
@user-wl4ct8pl3s Месяц назад
nice yui pfp
@uufruity
@uufruity Месяц назад
@@user-wl4ct8pl3s thanks! she’s the cutest ^^
@user-wl4ct8pl3s
@user-wl4ct8pl3s Месяц назад
@@uufruity have you tried learning any of HTT's songs on piano?
@uufruity
@uufruity Месяц назад
@@user-wl4ct8pl3s No, I watched K-on prior to my journey with piano and I don’t remember recalling any songs that stuck out to me while I watched it!
@user-wl4ct8pl3s
@user-wl4ct8pl3s Месяц назад
@@uufruity i feel like honey sweet tea time (the song that mugi wrote) would be a cool one to learn on the piano
@user-nv2wt4hi8t
@user-nv2wt4hi8t Год назад
Love it. Examples of music theory in motion like this light that fire in me while I build up my piano technique before continuing with my composition work. Subbed.
@johnaue821
@johnaue821 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for providing such well-laid out and clear examples of harmonic possibilities. I liked the point made about not necessarily using everything!
@je4a301
@je4a301 Год назад
love this video. had the feeling of a painting tutorial. please do more videos in this style, taking concepts from classical music and explaining them clearly by applying them in a composition
@janefrancine
@janefrancine Год назад
Thank you for this information, YOU GAINED NEW SUB! Keep up the good work man!
@nicolasrioscardona
@nicolasrioscardona 11 месяцев назад
Short, concise, practical and well explained. Perfect.
@jtbasener8740
@jtbasener8740 Год назад
This has been inspirational to my own compositional art. Thank you!
@gordonwong7158
@gordonwong7158 5 месяцев назад
Amazing teacher. Appreciate more videos of this kind. Thank you again
@BodybuilderKingViky
@BodybuilderKingViky Год назад
Sometimes, simple things sound more beautiful.
@MusicAbsum
@MusicAbsum Год назад
Great video, concepts are very nicely explained👏👏
@fadiessmaeel4909
@fadiessmaeel4909 Год назад
Fantastic. Very well done, very clear and to the point. God job!!!
@mauricioibarra8455
@mauricioibarra8455 Год назад
lol thank u so much for telling us to try it, I tried it and honestly I feel like I nailed it might have to expand, bless you for this
@barneystinson2382
@barneystinson2382 Год назад
This is awesome, thank you very much for doing this.
@balladin9200
@balladin9200 Год назад
underrated channel, great advice
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex Год назад
very kind of you thank you!
@oscarholmjrgnsen4963
@oscarholmjrgnsen4963 2 месяца назад
This video was very understanding and great. i learned a lot from this!
@Dognt343
@Dognt343 4 месяца назад
Thank you. Such a great, short video. Subscribed!!
@hashimhussain5780
@hashimhussain5780 Год назад
A very helpful video. Keep up the great work !!
@CarlosMartinez-gr1rp
@CarlosMartinez-gr1rp Год назад
This is a great exercise for me: please more of these ❤
@michaelpogudincomposition
@michaelpogudincomposition Год назад
Very informative! Thank you!
@marcevanstein
@marcevanstein Год назад
Very well done explanation/example!
@lewedanz
@lewedanz Год назад
EXCELLENT VIDEO !!! PLEASE MORE HARMOMIZING MELODY VIDEOS 👏🙌
@RyanLeach
@RyanLeach Год назад
short and sweet, well done
@ileoliang
@ileoliang 11 месяцев назад
Very well explained. More please!
@jkmcs8431
@jkmcs8431 Год назад
Okay, you got my attention, I’m all ears and I left you you a sub, it’s nothing much but I hope this will make your day better.
@MrGuitarristax
@MrGuitarristax Год назад
That was awesome! Please make more videos like that. :)
@thinkOfMeAsAClassicalMusician
3:02 we should show this to anyone who says they can’t tell the difference between schubert and schumann
@filipsakowski4492
@filipsakowski4492 Год назад
is Schumann supposed to be the second one?
@thinkOfMeAsAClassicalMusician
@@filipsakowski4492 yes! At least to my ear
@wobblyorbee279
@wobblyorbee279 11 месяцев назад
THAT ITALIAN 6TH god it sounds so beautiful
@peterkeys88
@peterkeys88 6 дней назад
awesome, thanks for this
@GregHarradineComposer
@GregHarradineComposer Год назад
Eye-opening (or should that be ear-opening) to hear the two versions side by side at the end. Great work!
@timbruer7318
@timbruer7318 Год назад
Good stuff, harmony is so wonderful :)
@hdrevolution123
@hdrevolution123 Год назад
Really nice video. You really showed a nuanced understanding of harmony here
@rogernichols1124
@rogernichols1124 Год назад
The additions to the original harmonisation move the music into more adventurous areas and that's fine, but the true talent of any composer in any age Western European music is to understand the value of simplicity and to sense when that's the appropriate choice. Some of the profoundest and most memorable passages of music, from Palestrina through Bach, Haydn, Brahms, Sibelius, Stravinsky, Copeland to Britten, Shostakovich, Ligeti, Glass and others "hit the mark" through simplicity, directness and transparency.
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex Год назад
complexity concealed within simplicity is the hardest thing to achieve
@ExoticEast
@ExoticEast 2 дня назад
very very helpful thank you!
@fadideeb6984
@fadideeb6984 Год назад
Very inspiring and professional. Please upload more of the same concept👌
@user-ug6hh4qg3n
@user-ug6hh4qg3n Год назад
Nice, good things to learn
@hermeticinstrumentalist6804
@hermeticinstrumentalist6804 11 месяцев назад
Thank you Sir. It is wonderful to continue learning.
@batboy5023
@batboy5023 Год назад
That was so cool!
@morphicmusic
@morphicmusic 6 месяцев назад
beautiful!
@MapleSnoople
@MapleSnoople Год назад
That was a really interesting watch! As a fellow Singaporean, I could also recognise your Singaporean accent immediately 😂
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex Год назад
guilty as charged 😅
@barneystinson2382
@barneystinson2382 Год назад
More about harmonizing please!
@danielmasters9679
@danielmasters9679 Год назад
Great lesson! Please, keep going😊
@kangalio
@kangalio Год назад
I wish the video played the raw melody. I cannot read sheet music without a reference tone, but I can think up chords and tones up very well in my head
@Quim141
@Quim141 Год назад
Good video 👍 finally someone who knows what's talking about
@nitroperformanceguy
@nitroperformanceguy Год назад
Brilliant!!!
@ccg8803
@ccg8803 Год назад
An incredible brief video
@caiosobral4725
@caiosobral4725 Год назад
That was amazing! Thank you. The only thing I missed was the actual sound of the strings. Anyway, great vid
@neolyth
@neolyth Год назад
Great video, more from the romantic era please!
@faridforooghi8293
@faridforooghi8293 Год назад
Great content… good luck
@justascaredpussycat1869
@justascaredpussycat1869 11 месяцев назад
Arhhh, harmony and counterpoint. My arch nemesis.
@darb.musica
@darb.musica Год назад
Very nice!
@hamza.13
@hamza.13 Год назад
Plz keep doing vids like this one
@eimeartheirishstitcher
@eimeartheirishstitcher 3 месяца назад
So much helpful information in such a short video!
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex 3 месяца назад
Thanks a lot!
@TheClassicalSauce
@TheClassicalSauce Год назад
Hello fellow composer! Nice video!
@juanbitacoradelmusico5888
@juanbitacoradelmusico5888 Год назад
Hmmm! sounds like Brahms and Reger too! Delicious.
@tabor503
@tabor503 6 месяцев назад
Dope!
@amir.nouroozi.composer
@amir.nouroozi.composer Год назад
great video
@julienmichel8013
@julienmichel8013 Год назад
I think one of the best impact was adding non harmony notes to bring more movement and spice to the inner lines ; will you be making more videos about that aspect ?
@altoclef6688
@altoclef6688 Год назад
Good video.
@Stitch87654
@Stitch87654 Год назад
The second violin part is tasteful!!!
@thiagogomes3226
@thiagogomes3226 10 месяцев назад
the most MOST important thing in music, in my opinion, is narrative and context. There is space for every sound and ambient in music, given the narrative and context. Rationalization of compositional tools and processes, also subjective descriptors, gain more meaning and becomes more useful when associated with narrative and context.
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex 10 месяцев назад
i completely agree
@marije179
@marije179 Год назад
I don't understand anything of this but the first thing already sounded very nice!
@Doug20__
@Doug20__ Год назад
That’s great!! Which romantic harmony book do you suggest for me to study?
@Dizzyfingers2
@Dizzyfingers2 Год назад
Last measure tension / resolution: Violin II - D (first beat) to C (second / third beats) ...
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex Год назад
exactly! the same could be done in vlc or a suspension with the B natural
@mintegral1719
@mintegral1719 Год назад
Holy crap, this was enlightening. Please do more of these!
@paoloiavarone
@paoloiavarone Год назад
earned a sub
@williamallen6487
@williamallen6487 4 месяца назад
Sounds like some Joe Hisaishi Ghibli magic! Love it!
@BlackHermit
@BlackHermit Год назад
Very good chromaticism!
@zidanidane
@zidanidane Год назад
💛💛💛
@philonouz
@philonouz Год назад
nice
@monsieurbrochant7528
@monsieurbrochant7528 Год назад
Very interesting, thanks! I think this sounds more like the first iteration of a musical idea early in a music piece, then the second, enriched one, later in the piece. Do you know how to acquire the "tools" you mentioned at the end of the video? I try to remember the ones I see in each piece I learn but is there some kind of list? Do you have one?
@furman.composer
@furman.composer 11 месяцев назад
Studying harmony and counterpoint.
@monsieurbrochant7528
@monsieurbrochant7528 11 месяцев назад
@@furman.composer how? Any recommendations?
@furman.composer
@furman.composer 11 месяцев назад
@@monsieurbrochant7528 French manuals (Gedalge, d'Indy, Dubois, Fauré...), Cherubini or Fux's books. There's a new trend going on in Partimento - also interesting to check. But commonly found books are indeed good: Kosta's Tonal Harmony, Aldwell's Harmony and Voice leading, Gauldin and Schoenberg's books. Even Walter Piston's are good. And, of course, plenty of solfège exercises (utilizing the same harmony and counterpoint exercises to sight sing each voice). May seem overwhelming at first glance, but diligently studied, this material can be perfected over 2 years without rushing or get tired, just taking few sessions per week. The rest is active listening and practice (with and without instrument).
@lollertoaster
@lollertoaster Год назад
The italian chord broke my hearth.
@C0urante
@C0urante Год назад
Is there a wrong note in the audio for the first chord of the viola part in the final harmonization? The chord sounds like a V42 of ii instead of a viiº43, with a C in the viola instead of a Db.
@user-ze6yf1go2m
@user-ze6yf1go2m 11 месяцев назад
Where can I find this collection of given melodies?
@levimungai1846
@levimungai1846 4 месяца назад
are there books one can go through to learn about chords and harmony? this kind of analysis. what are some of them?
@kaptnkirk2740
@kaptnkirk2740 Год назад
Thank you. Very interesting! Could you sometimes do some stuff about 64-chords in romantic music? It seems, they appear occasionally "irregular". That means: not as a transitus and not as a suspension bevor 53 but more like a "normal" chord.
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex Год назад
it's hard to know what you mean by a "normal" chord, maybe you'd like to provide some examples for me to check out
@toppermusic
@toppermusic 9 месяцев назад
Wanting to learn this style of orchestration. Any recommendations on literature I can read?
@jamescerone
@jamescerone Год назад
That first option with the interrupted cadence sounds like Randy Newman
@tristanfanningmusic9701
@tristanfanningmusic9701 Год назад
Could you explain how you've named the chord at 3:21 at the upbeat? I'm not really sure how this chord is vii43dim/ii in Eb. Thank you!
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex Год назад
the ii chord is F minor in the key of Eb, the diminished chord vii7 of F is E G Bb Db, and since Bb is in the bass, second inversion thus 43
@Wulfhartus
@Wulfhartus Год назад
The italian chord is good to know
@wadahabbasher
@wadahabbasher Год назад
What’s the piece from this video?
@HYP3RK1NECT
@HYP3RK1NECT Год назад
Armonice eso pero en do menor. Ya que Mi bemol mayor sentía que no le queda. Pero es mi opinión. Kas posibilidades de componer esa base son muchas.
@jdcellist
@jdcellist Год назад
It would be cool for the Cello's B natural in bar 4 to come a beat earlier!
@alvin9284
@alvin9284 10 месяцев назад
jazz
@ultrahotwings9738
@ultrahotwings9738 Месяц назад
Out of curiosity, you mentioned that the Italian 6th is a predominant chord, but when I listen to it, it sounds like a dominant chord to me. I get that it's technically an enharmonic with a dominant 7th chord (with the 5th omitted), but the Cb It6 chord to my ear in this context makes me hear a B7 leading to a Bb... or a II-V to the V with a tritone sub on the II chord. I think part of why I'm feeling that chord as a dominant is because the F-natural (or E#) in the melody would be the lydian of the B7 dominant chord, so it injects a tense brightness at that moment.. Also, I'm curious how you address the F-natural in the Cb It6 chord.. or do you just see it as a non-harmonic passing tone? Fascinating how aspects of jazz theory and classical theory sorta intermingle with each other, TBH.
@skylarlimex
@skylarlimex Месяц назад
You're right. Tchaikovsky mentions in his treatise of harmony that the augmented 6 chords should really be treated as substitutions of the dominant chord. But it really is used most of the time like a sort of dominant of the dominant like in this example which is why in Eb we could say that it's the predominant. I prefer analysing the F as a passing note but it also fits nicely in a French 6 chord too.
@obrayeku
@obrayeku Год назад
In the recording it sounds like you play a V42/ii (C/Bb) instead of the diminished chord written in the music and fig. bass, but I think it sounds better that way anyways.
@upside_you_mop
@upside_you_mop 10 месяцев назад
Yoo could you do some kapustin, maybe his 4th concerto
@coolmuso6108
@coolmuso6108 Год назад
This was great! Do you have any useful resources on harmonisation? I’m trying to compose more in my free time and it’s difficult because I don’t have my piano on me at the moment.
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