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No one taught me how to drive a car, and I still do the thing with the brake on inclines, and sometimes heel-toe on a bigger hill start. (I've been driving for a month now, I'm 16)
A great tip for hill starts is to have the correct mentality. DO NOT be thinking about rolling back, other wise you are likely to roll back. Example: What ever you do DON'T think of a pink elephant, so what are you thinking of?? A pink elephant right? FOCUS on what you need to do, FOCUS on moving forwards.
Well, you need to be aware that car can go backwards if you don't start quick enough. One thing is thinking about pink elephant, other thing is doing it. Your logic is not in place..
@@T.Hxrris In your tachometer, which is next to the speedometer on the dashboard of your car, you can see the RPM and for most of the cars the numbers get red after 6, meaning you've hit 6000 RPM. So when the needle gets to 6K rpm (or any different depending on the unit) you're redlining. Essentially just driving at a very high rpm or your motor is spinning really quickly. Thing is, when you're hill starting, you can redline your car when you still have the handbrake on to get the momentum as soon as you release it . If you start moving it drops significantly but you should keep giving gas not to stall. Hence why you shouldn't worry about redlining because it drops a lot anyways as you start moving and unless you don't release the clutch enough you won't redline again. That's just my experience with my car though, hope that clarifies it.
Learned how to hill start in a 1981 Chevrolet Corvette, with a broken hand brake, letting the clutch out to the bite point, right foot still on the brake, when moving from the brake to the throttle, the car won't move back, due to holding the clutch to the bite point, then start giving it gas, while slowly letting out the clutch. -A self taught manual driver.
That's a V8 though, with lots of low-end torque. That helps a lot. Doing what you've suggested can be extremely difficult if you have a very small engine with hardly any torque at idle.
As a beginner I used only the "no handbrake" method, but as I got older I got lazy and I came to appreciate the handbrake's advantages. It is just more confortable to use and it's more healthy for your clutch.
My dad thought me how to hill start without a handbrake so when it came to actual driving lessons I've shown to my instructor that I don't need to use the handbrake to hill start. All he said was if you want to pass your driving test that I have to use the handbrake to hill start as some examiners see this maneuver as dangerous.
Here in Romania they never teach you to start with the handbrake, they teach you how to start it from the clutch only, they also don't teach rev matching, this is why they change the clutches every 3 months.
This was stupidly helpful! I took a break from lessons because of studies and work, and when I came back to lessons, my hill starts were traumatising and embarrassing. I completely forgot that you would need more gas and to stay at the bite longer. I'm really grateful for this vid, Paynos!
This was really helpful for me because I have a newer manual car with one of those annoying *electronic* parking brakes. It's just a button and it doesn't disengage unless your foot is on the brake pedal.
2 years later but I’m about to buy a used car like that and I’m worried about it because I’m used to using a handbrake! I asked the guy at the dealership and he was like, “I don’t know man”. Which isn’t reassuring, so now I’m doing my research.
@@86aidan31 An electronic handbrake is the easiest thing you’ll ever use. You literally push a button to engage it and simply start driving to disengage it. No more messing about with a mechanical handbrake!
@@davidstanley8508 I got a Mazda3 manual with an electronic handbrake. If I have the handbreak up and start to drive, it does disengage automatically but the car lurches forward. So, I have to disengage the handbreak first then use the bite-point technique to get the car moving.
Recently swapped the transmission in my 71 bronco to a 5 speed from a 3 speed after I cooked the flywheel and clutch from improper shifting at red lights traffic ect.(my first manual and self taught so please dont crucify me) and your videos have greatly improved my shifting. I actually look like I have a clue thank you so much
I don't get nervous at hilly traffic signal as i have mastered the handbrake method but get nervous during stop and go traffic jams while going uphill everytime using handbrake is not comfortable. I will give a try to this method. Thank you for your video! It helps!
My only problem is not giving enough bite when taking the handbrake of! I ever so slightly roll back a little but more bite should fix that as the gas is fine I’m pretty sure
After watching this video, I feel like the only person that actually uses the handbrake on hills lol 😆 Mainly because I have a 1.0L car, it just doesn’t quite have the power to pull off well with no accelerator
Jack Taylor try getting use to finding the balance point where you have the clutch somewhat depress and having the gas in just a tad bit where you hold the car steady on a hill, no rolling back or moving forward the “bite” point.. this is a bad idea with long term use but once you get the feeling of your “bite” point, muscle memory will allow you to quickly release the brake peddle and find your bite point in a split second reflex.. really not that hard to master
My driving instructor in 1960 used to drive up a steep hill stop at the top having put the car back into first (no synchro back then) and was holding the car on the clutch, no handbrake, ready to pull out when clear. Once I passed my test I managed to work out how to do the same I only use a handbrake when I park no need during journey. Never warn a clutch out in my life.
My driving instructor taught me bit with and without a handbrake, and never really did hill starts with a handbrake. Just got my first car, a 1.6 mini cooper and yet to try a hill start in that.
I'd recommend you don't bother with the "no-handbrake" hill start. It's unnecessary and dangerous, and puts more stress on the clutch. Unless you're missing an arm, there is literally no good reason to avoid using the handbrake. A no-handbrake hill start will never be as fast or smooth as a well executed handbrake start.
On a steep hill I just use the handbrake now. Not sure what the fuss is. When driving diesels in the past, I never imagined using the handbrake in any circumstance.
Bro you're insane as always when i was learning to drive i watched your driving tips like everyday 3 times a day to make sure i was always ready for my driving test i passed first time, highly confident with hill starts etc because of you!! Thank you so much i got a nice sporty hatchback and have a lot of fun in it keep the tip videos going because it may not seem it but honestly they help people so much and gain them so much confidence!!
I'm a beginner but since I've started driving I've never used the handbrake. For me it's easier to just use the clutch to hold the car and then move off. Ofc I don't hold the clutch like that the whole time. I only bring it up when I know I'm going to move
there's this one huge hill on my way to school, and there's a traffic light right at the top. still haven't gotten there without stalling on that hill.
Around 2:47, it was a reasonable comment. What can be done depends a bit on the engine in use. A while back, I had a Honda Civic with a 2.2 diesel engine, and it could start at idle speed, without touching the accelerator at all. However, the next one on couldn’t!
I would love an in-depth tutorial on how to move off quickly. I’ve passed my test which means I don’t want to stall anymore so when I’m moving off I’m very cautious about how quickly I release my clutch, because while learning we all move off slowly anyways!!
You will learn as you drive more, but pretty much more gas and let off the clutch faster, dont dump it, just bring it to the biting point and with more gas you can go from biting point to fully engaged faster.
I use heel toe to start on a hill and it feels so badass...clutch all the way in half a foot on a brake other half on a gas...letting go of the clutch and at the same time releasing brake and adding gas....its so cool try it
I tried it about a year ago and never succeeded, so I forgot it. My foot seems to be relatively small for it. But I will probably try it again someday. I know it can be useful in a very slow moving/stop-go traffic on a hill where handbrake method is not appropriate.
@@lexsoft3969 could be just bcs of the car...my car has all 3 pedals on the same level so its alot easier then when i tryed it on my dads car which has gas pedal a lot lower then the brake so i need to put heel on brake and turn my foot to a very uncomfortable position to reach the gas with my toes...but yea if you can do it its very very fun
As I have a front wheel drive car, and the handbrake locks only the rear wheels, I prefer going with the handbrake. because the brake pedal locks all the wheels, which means my front wheels get more resistance, which means my clutch disk will die faster. AAAND my vehicle is kind of heavy, so jumping off the clutch and revving it, will make my first wheels spin while I'm sliding backwards down the hill (mainly in winter) :) (I'm amazed, how easily I can spin my first wheels on a flat surface when I'm just trying to start from a stop)
I learned to drive a manual in a car that has a hill assist feature (brakes hold the car automatically for two seconds) hopefully every car I buy in the future has that or I'm going to end up having an oh shit moment...
Big Same for me. Ive learned to drive a stick before this car but i still crap my pants whenever im on a steep hill especially in my e36. My mini with the hill assist feature is a God send.
I've started to do that leg wiggle to reposition my foot on the clutch... Safe to say I'll probably be doing that for the rest of my driving life thanks to you, so that's worth something right? 😁
I stalled twice on a hill today on 2 diff occasions. My car is 1.0 and im still getting used it. Its so stressful knowing that it might roll back or the people will use their horn at you!
A 1.0, meaning a 1 litre engine? That would make it a bit tricky. An engine that size will have very little torque, so you need to be careful to maintain the rev's to avoid stalling. Keeping your heel braced against the floor as you release the clutch will help a lot. You want to be releasing the clutch just by pivoting your angle, rather than moving your whole leg. This gives you much more control. Release the clutch until you feel it start to take, then pause in this position momentarily, while you give the engine a bit more throttle and simultaneously release the handbrake. So basically the handbrake is just used to hold the car in place until the clutch engages, then it's job is finished.
Ye the real way to reduce the life span your clutch if you have an old car. Otherwise for new one they have built in hill start up assist so you can do this but the handbrake method is still the real way. Anyway nice vid for new drivers 👍
Biggest problem I have is my clutch is hydraulic and the biting point can vary depending on the density of the fluid. That changes with time & weather conditions.
I just got a manual car (in the US where these cars are very rare) and I thought either I or the car was tripping because the bite point seemed to be in different places on different days, and it seemed to get lower after I had been driving for some time
In Sweden we arent tought to use the handbrake in hillstarts unless its really steep to the point where you need your right foot on the gas to not stall.
But the release of the clutch at a certain point makes the car vibrate while the brake is down, at which point you'd ease up off the brake, and without any rev at all the car begins to move. I'm not sure why this method isn't often mentioned as there's not need for immediate throttle, just the clutch and brake.
just failed my test because hill starts are so fucking stressful in areas with high traffic. I know how to do them but when I get anxious I just forget to press enough gas or take my foot off the clutch too quickly and the engine shuts.. then I start to panic and it happens again. I'm sure it's not hard when you get used to doing hill starts but concentrating on both the traffic and the clutch control is too much for my brain
Well, what I do is to operate brake and accelerator simultaneously with heel on accelerator and toe on brake. Let my small petrol engine rev and slowly release the break while increasing preesure on accelerator and simultaneously releasing the clutch. With small petrol engine, with low torque, it's really easy to stall without it, engine doesn't hold car on steep hills unless I rev it. With diesel, it's different game altogether, needing no accelerator input thanks to their low end torque
I probably used handbreak to hill-start when I was in driving school but I doubted the necessity of it. I've never used one ever since I was out of school though... But my mom uses handbreak to make sure she doesn't roll-back.
if i keep my heel on the floor while finding the biting point in my moms car which i'm using to learn how to drive my foot just gets stuck cause of the floor mats or whatever they are called. sorry for bad english i'm from sweden
Why do people from uk say that clutching up to bite point before giving gas is bad even if you know where your bite point is?? You just can do it fast clutch to bite then give gas - car rolls, and am sure you don't have to use hand brake every second you stop or on every small hill because foot brake is quick enough.Also it really helps on hills and is a faster start.Here there's no roll back because clutch is already to the bite and meets the gas.
FFS what the hell are u talking about....... Press NOS button before u start realising clutch and the car will go itself without touching acceleration at all..... NOS clutch up and release break that's it...
I have trouble keeping my heel down. I have a golf Mk7 and the clutch travel is pretty damn long, if I push it all the way in and put my foot down, I don't seem to have enough angle in my heel to actually release the clutch. if anyone has any tips that would be really helpful, I only passed my test a couple weeks ago 😅
thanks for this I’ll have to try it out. This week in my driving lesson I had to do a hill start on a roundabout and i stalled 4 times 😖 I wanted to disappear
When you've been driving for longer, you'll start to be able to naturally feel what's going on with the car. You'll just know automatically when the car needs more gas etc. I actually think it's helpful to learn how the engine, clutch and manual transmission works, from a technical perspective. I found this helped a lot to improve my clutch control.
I have an old pick up with manual transmission with no handbrake. The emergency brake is on the floor. I came across videos on how to start on an incline without rolling backwards at all, and this was all new information to me. I practiced a bit after watching the videos and then I told my boyfriend who had been complaining that I roll backwards too much when starting on an incline. I wasn’t rolling too much but that’s besides the point. The boyfriend who had been a truck driver for 14 years said that this was a technique used for vehicles with handbrakes and that using this technique in my vehicle, with emergency brake on the floor, would wear out my clutch prematurely. I can’t find a single comment or any info on this at all. I have to know if he has a valid point or is he just trying to make me feel as if I can’t do anything right once again??
2 months ago i stalled my car on the traffic light on the hill. The first thing inside my mind was i need to restart my car immediately so I fully pressed my clutch and turn the car on without realising that im not pressin the brake, thus my car went down hill quick and almost hit the car behind me. Dang, i got traumatized because of a lot of the honkings did by the cars behind me
I usually just hit the gas hard, but yeah definitely not the best way to, I'm still getting used to the clutch of my parents car so, and unfortunately my feet are to big to keep my heel on the floor the top of my shoe will get stuck on something if I do that, so that's a big oof.
I don't understand why this is even such a contentious issue. This is what the handbrake is for, so use it. It makes hill starts faster, safer, and easier. It's a no-brainer.
@@Paynos I've heard this as well. I just laugh it off. Fortunately when I was first learning, I had a very good teacher, who instilled good habits, so by the time I heard my first "handbrake is for noobs" type comment, I was already experienced enough to know I could safely ignore them.
You should not be holding on the clutch, you should always use handbrake. You will wear your clutch out quicker if you do. You will also fail your test.
@@Weeflowerofscotland , If you were to drive my 09 Mazda 6 2.2L diesel you will literally hate it. The clutch is quite heavy, driving it in slow moving traffic will be a pain. Plus it has been remapped .
I take driving lessons in a Mercedes a class and it has a electronic parking brake. I always roll back because sometimes the handbrake will release automatic and I’m not ready to move out because I need to check mirrors but I have no time to check mirrors
How come you recommend finding the bite first instead of setting the gas first? Is it because it will roll back slightly if you set the gas first on a hill?
Like can you keep your foot right down on the clutch give some gas and then bring the clutch up? Is this less of a chance of stalling? Sorry I’m a new driver just passed haha
I also just purchased a seat Ibiza 2007 the other day, it’s my first car although I haven’t got enough confidence to take it on the roads just yet. Hopefully your videos will help me.
If we want to start the car on a steep hill, more uphill as shown in your video, releasing the brakes slowly will make the car moves backward very fast. How do we stop that??? How do we start comfortably??
