My old XR650 handles whoops like an old woman with a broken hip. I’ll roll them, and all I hear is that rear shock screaming “ker chunk, ker chunk”. I try my best to tear that bike apart, but it refuses to die.
@@TheMxFactory Yeah, I saw a stock wheel come apart at a Supercross track down in Florida. Not sure if it was the rim, the hub, or the spokes that gave way first. Maybe it was a fluke thing, but I went out and bought new wheel sets after seeing it happen. Better safe than dead. Peace!
Saw a dude get sideways and crack 6 of his ribs across whoops after his bike ran over him... needless to say i fucking pinned it on my little 50 and got first that night XD. (I was like 8 so i didnt understand what happened fully)
That deadlift example really helped me understand. I feel like I can apply that to anytime I'm on the bike so I don't feel like I'm falling onto the bars
About a year ago I was rolling through the whoops and a boy on a 65 just flat blew by me. This chap was on point. Went back to the truck to eat a sandwich, reflect, and weep a little inside.
Bike suspension setup is probably the single most important part of successful whoops riding (followed closely by rider technique and position). Especially higher speeds.
I love hearing technique broken down by someone who knows. The part that jumped out at me was the modulation of the throttle through the whoops. I always imagined a steady throttle throughout. Even though I might not be skilled enough to apply these techniques, it helps from a fan perspective when I'm watching the pros race.
I actually learned from that bit as well I grew up on 70s 2 strokes mostly county trails with tight whoops small and super close so I just hit them full speed and get my ass up and normally do fine but this modern bike I have cant hit them like that the rear tires keep blowing so Im looking to upgrade now lol
I think one important maybe most important tip you missed is Commit, commit and commit. Once you pick that line you’ve got to commit. Big problem lots of people have is they go into those whoops hesitant. It’s all in or nothing. Great video. Just figured I’d throw that out there.
Shawn Doucette same with me, once I learned to pick a line and a gear and just keep a steady throttle and commit, It was so much more consistent. I also had a bad habit of leaning too far back and wheeling the first 3-4 whoops which lead to it being harder to gain control after.
On throttle control: I was also told to "keep the throttle steady" and never slow down throughout, which must be the beginner technique in order to survive through them, so what part of the whoop would you give gas vs. what part of the whoop do you let up on it? ...would it be to keep you from gunning it on the downside which would make you jump too high off the next one or something?...
Great video ...When your first starting out on the whoops and get comfortable at a speed for now an body stance on your foot pegs.Set your rear shock rebound /compression faster or slower refer to your manual or talk with somebody at your pro shop that knows about set up. You will have to work on the front fork rebound / compression at some point for your speed to make the bike track straight you will feel the difference.Make big adjustments with your rebound /compression screws top or bottom not tiny ones 3 or 4 clicks sometimes five at first no half turns or one turn at first so you know the difference. Once you feel the difference then you can fine-tune. The faster you go the more you will have to a just your rebound an compression before you do anything else. Ride like that for a while and get used to the bike. Once you accomplish that then you can start setting up the bike with your springs rates then set up will start all over again with a few extra things. Rider sag an static sag.The bike will start handling better.There's a whole lot more techniques to this. Just a matter of time and practice and trial and error. Just FYI remember if you're new to woods riding you don't have time to measure up between whoops you deal with what's in front of you pick your line lol. So you have to have a mid balanced set up when woods riding or racing. A lot of other factors play into these set ups on both motocross and woods you will learn these in time.
Love you and the videos you helped me with so much I’ve rading sins I was only 12 so not long I’m 16 in April so I really appreciate you guys. I ride a to stroke 250 so can you do a 2 stroke tips and tricks please
You guys make the best, most succinct, relatable, and thorough instructional videos. Tyler is non-threatening, likable, and competent. You need to train trainers and franchise it out, or something. Just don’t stop posting content!
Very kind of you to say all that! Thanks so much! We do have talks of increasing our reach, whether through franchising or another means, but we promise in the meantime we won’t stop posting. Our RU-vid journey has really given us a whole other platform and method to reach people so we love it waaaaay too much to stop 😎
I'm not a track rider, so some of what you go over don't really apply to me, but I ended up watching a bunch of your basics vids and how you explain things is easy and straight forward. I've got a couple new rider teens that I think you've helped me figure out how to present those things to more effectively, so you got my sub now. Thank you.
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I’ve been watching you for like a year now, you’ve taught me to whip, do whoops and actually hit a jump. Thank you for making these vids Man, you make progress.
You young guys need to learn how to pronounce "whoops". It's not like whoops I made a mistake. It's whoops like hoops. You younger generation probably don't even know the word came from whoop de doos. Ask Roger DeCoster or Jody Weisel. See if I'm wrong.
Throttle to keep the bike balanced makes a lot of sense. Half of the events in the Enduro series I participate in are 60%+ sand whoops. I always try to keep the butt back and hammer them but this is something I'll have to play with.
Anyone want tips on how to hit whoops on a turn you hit them normally like rollers but you pull the bike with your hips when the front wheel lands DO NOT TURN
Ridden nothing but desert whoops for years.. went to an mx track for the first time a while back.. no idea how easy you mx guys have it with those artificial whoops 😄
We can argue all day about what is better 4 stroke or 2. But you cannot argue that a 2 stroke sounds way better, and the smile on your face is way bigger. I have riden both. Oh and 4 strokes sound like the mountain from game of thrones taking a shit
I always wondered why the hell they exist. I've only ever encountered natural whoops on a trail once in my whole long life and have no idea why anyone, anyone in the whole wide world wants those things on a race track.
Ola como estas te felicito por que no eres egoistas con lo quesabes mui bueno como es pricas pero podriad bajar los bideos en es pañol para lo que no saben ingles gacias mui bueno como espricas
My local track has a long section of wide sandy/loamy rollers and I always find myself wanting to physically try to lift the front end up and that makes the rest of my body stiff as a board. But I definitely don’t wanna loop out either. Probably just thinking to much about it.
hello mx factory I love your videos they have helped to improve my riding and have given me the upper hand to my rivles I am only 15 and I am one of the best riders in SA and I would just like to say thank yew.
I don’t even know why I’m watching this video other than it’s interesting. I’m too old, clumsy, and afraid of any more serious injuries to do tracks anyway. I still like your vids!
