How to Install C-Channel

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This is our designed and fabricated C-channel, the best in the industry. This is how we install it, thanks for watching.
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Комментарии : 85

@heathmichael142 3 года назад

Very smart and efficient. Great video.

@CanadianWoodworks 3 года назад

Glad you liked it!

@rampatec7124 4 года назад

Great video Paul 👍🙌👍

@CanadianWoodworks 3 года назад

Thanks 👍

@FredMcIntyre 4 года назад

Thanks for the info Paul! 😃👍🏻👊🏻

@CanadianWoodworks 4 года назад

You bet!

@chippychippy8291 4 года назад

Nice video Paul!

@CanadianWoodworks 3 года назад

Thanks!

@michaelbusada2429 2 года назад

Great video. Question for you. I have a black walnut table that is 1 7/8” thick and 53”x96”. I plan to install c channels and recess them in to be flush. The channels are 1” total depth. The jig I have built is going to allow 1/16 inch on each side of the wings to allow for movement. So dato for each wing would be total of 5/16”. My question is would these channels weaken the slab since I’m routering 1” down and the table is 1 7/8”. It’s a heavy table. Thanks for the help.

@leonardmartin5145 3 года назад

Awesome I need that jig

@CanadianWoodworks 3 года назад

Rob at Concept 13 offers them.

@katekeough9819 3 года назад

Thank you I’m not sure what is going on at your shop no new videos I miss you hope you are doing well🇨🇦

@CanadianWoodworks 3 года назад

Working on it!

@georgecampbell2662 3 года назад

Hello how are you doing Paul i would like to say thank you for all your great video's and information hope everything is going well ok take care cheers

@CanadianWoodworks 3 года назад

You are very welcome

@jrmanskewoodworking1559 3 года назад

Paul your videos are very useful and much appreciated by all . A question from past video on AVID cnc flattener how do you like it?

@CanadianWoodworks 3 года назад

Thanks, appreciate the feedback. We love our Avid cnc price point + quality is fantastic!

@IronOakSawmill 4 года назад

Thank you Paul. Where can I order the C-channel, inserts, and bolts?

@CanadianWoodworks 4 года назад

Thanks for watching, you can purchase from my dealers. We have April Wilkerson in Texas and In Toronto conceptthirteen.ca/

@jcmakesit 3 года назад

Thanks Paul . May I ask where you got your allen key adapter for installing your inserts thanks John

@CanadianWoodworks 2 года назад

Great question but I don't actually remember!

@carbonyle 2 года назад

Great video! In the process of installing a couple of channels. I had a couple of questions, one you answered elsewhere (whether it’s needed to remove material to get the channel flush - not really) and the other, do you recommend to add a bit of glue/epoxy on the inserts so they stay in place? I’ve read it several times but I feel it’s overkill, especially if set in hardwood, and I don’t see you do it here ;-) Thanks!

@CanadianWoodworks 2 года назад

we have almost never added and glue to the inserts, especially with the Rampa inserts, with the "home depot" inserts maybe yes as they will literally shrink as time goes on.

@matheo025 2 года назад

Great video, thank you. I have just bought a poplar slab that I thought would be dry but it came it quite wet (sun dried for 6 months). Currently letting it air dry in the room where it will be. Should I install the C Channels while it dries to prevent cupping right now or is that a bad idea?

@CanadianWoodworks 2 года назад

I suggest finding a kiln to have it properly dried

@JasonPeltier Год назад

Nice explanation! I found you through a link from Blacktail Studio. So I'm working on a 3" red oak bar top that's 24" deep. Would you think it needs a C-channel in such a relatively short and relatively thick chunk? Thanks!

@CanadianWoodworks Год назад

If it is dried well and sealed the same on both side, most likely not needed. But you might know that by now as your comment was 3 months ago (-:

@attantoniasturntutorials3451 7 месяцев назад

Hey, Canadian Woodworks, I love the video. I am about to install C channels on a table project as well. Which router bit exactly did you use for cutting the grooves? My C channels are made of 3mm steel and are shaped exactly like yours.

@CanadianWoodworks 6 месяцев назад

We use a 1/4'' spiral bit, down cut to minimize and tear out

@sj-kp1ks Год назад

Thanks for the video. Should the c channels always be installed at right angles to the long grain? I ask because I have a table in which all the grain runs at 30 degrees to the long edge of the table. Can I still run the c channel at right angles to the long edge? Or should it be at right angles to the grain? If I do the latter, it interferes with the leg mounting plates. Thanks!

@CanadianWoodworks Год назад

Hmm, i'd still run them the same

@NickGuyVideo 3 года назад

Is there a reason why you install these oriented with the width and not the length? Also, for a depth of 1", what is the minimum depth on a slab of wood before you run into issues? Thanks so much for the videos!

@CanadianWoodworks 3 года назад

Big slab tables will usually warp over it's width if there is an issue, these "help" to limit that issue. Can you use it for the length sure and we have, but usually not needed if your lumber is thick enough. Most of our table are 1.5'' and up, so we are always using these for added insurance down the road.

@mohdfirdaus3055 3 года назад

what that size for c chanel?

@eskbmxrdr1 2 года назад

Have you ever tried aluminum C channel rather than steel? I dont know the rigidity differences specifically, but it seems like it would provide support to smaller tables (coffee or dining size)

@CanadianWoodworks 8 месяцев назад

I'd think the aluminum would not have the same rigidity, but I have not tried it

@sandru121 Год назад

Hello, I would like to know what dimensions it is recommended to have the part that goes into the wood depending on the thickness of the table top? For example, with a 4 cm table top, which model of C Channels should I use? Thank you and I await your answer!

@CanadianWoodworks Год назад

4 cm = 1.5'' so using our channels with a needed depth of .75'' would work great.

@whua 4 года назад

Great video! Have you ever had any issues with slab tables cupping even though you’ve installed c-channels? I know you guys are very good at drying big slabs, and i know from my own experience just how difficult it is to get a 3” thick, big slab of wood to dry safely, and uniformly down to 8%, and even when they’re dry they tend to move a little some times, incredibly frustrating.. so i totally get the need for using c-channels. But anyway what do you believe it is that causes perfectly dry wood to move, changes in relative humidity? Drying stress? I mean there’s plenty of airflow on both the top and bottom of a table top, and with an equal amount of finish on both sides, uneven moisture changes seems unlikely. Oh and dry wood tend to be very stable in it’s moisture content despite rapid change in RH. i get readings of 8% mc pretty much all year around in my slabs, but still, every once in a while, a table top slab seems to just spontaneously cup, for no apparent reason. Sorry for the long winded question, i guess it would be interesting to hear your thoughts about it. Since slab tables are expensive to make, and this is the kind of thing woodworkers can get in pretty big trouble for, if they’re either reckless and use wet wood, or just unlucky and made a table from a seemingly dry slab, that somehow decided to cup.

@neckcutter2592 3 года назад

Im literally dealing with that exact same thing and cant find or figure away to keep my bar top flat even with C-channel installed

@CanadianWoodworks 3 года назад

Even with perfectly dried wood, a table is usually exposed to sunlight on the top, or a heater vent on the bottom kinda things, so for big slabs even those small things can have an impact. I believe usng these will help keep your tables flat over years of movement. Will they fix a table that is really gonna move no, some wood is like that but most of the time it's not dried fully / correctly to move that much. This is why it's important to know where your lumber comes from, that it is a consistent source of quality dried lumber.

@johnmurphy3880 3 года назад

Can these be added to a 3 yr old top that ha developed a little cup. Will it help to bring it back to flat over time? Any other recommendations.

@CanadianWoodworks 3 года назад

Yes for sure, they will help. I say they are in negotiations with the wood to be flat

@SP4C3COWBOY 4 года назад

I bought this set of brass bushings a while back that you are using. I have a Makita rp2301fc router and I need some kind of bushing plate or adapter to get these bushings to work. You have any idea what I need to get?

@CanadianWoodworks 4 года назад

Shoot, I hate it when things don't work out. I wonder if Makita makes their own inserts or a base plate what works with these? I don't know.

@SP4C3COWBOY 4 года назад

@@CanadianWoodworks Thanks. I am going to check tomorrow with the Makita dealer. Yall make great videos. I really enjoy them and learn a lot.

@georgegri 2 года назад

Thank you. quick question please. What if the desktop I've made already has a bit of a curve. It's a very very slight curve, but it is visible. Would putting the c-channel help reducing it and also preventing it from getting worst with time? btw, I've made my desktop from walnut wood.

@CanadianWoodworks 2 года назад

Hi, Yes it will help. But you need to have the top clamped flat when creating and installing the channel. You could also add some cuts along the length on the underside to relieve some stress.

@georgegri 2 года назад

@@CanadianWoodworks Thank you!

@thewoodworkersjourney3314 3 года назад

I really miss your frequent videos :(

@CanadianWoodworks 3 года назад

Hi, You'll have them again!

@thewoodworkersjourney3314 3 года назад

Your comment is terrific news in an otherwise pretty crappy day.

@k.mustafa5455 11 месяцев назад

How many c channels do you typically use? I’m likely going to be working on a 14 ft table…thinking maybe 4-5 of these over the entire length?

@CanadianWoodworks 11 месяцев назад

I would go with 4 pieces on a 14' table top

@nickgrimstad Год назад

I have a walnut slab table that’s 98” long that has a slight bow in the middle between the legs. Legs are 58” apart. Would C channel be effective to run length wise? all applications I see of c channel are applied in the width axis.

@CanadianWoodworks Год назад

Hi Nick, yes we have used C-channel like this to help with this issue

@adamsodowy2793 Год назад

Does the fixing in the middle weaken the worktop? at this point the tabletop is cut across almost half the thickness, won't it start to sag in the middle over time?

@CanadianWoodworks Год назад

We have not had any issues length wise after install C-channels, this is after 100's of tables.

@WRITINGCOMICS 3 года назад

How many c channels do you recommend per table top, by size etc..?

@CanadianWoodworks 3 года назад

7' and down 2, 8' to 10' 3, 11'+ more.....LOL

@babebful 3 года назад

Paul where did you buy those inserts and bolts

@CanadianWoodworks 3 года назад

conceptthirteen.ca/collections/bolts-and-inserts

@joelthoenen3733 4 года назад

You don't inset the c channel so it sits flush with the bottom of the table?

@CanadianWoodworks 4 года назад

We almost never fully inset it, I'd rather not remove that 1/4'' of material. Because these are bent and powder coated, then look and feel nice.

@travislocklear3905 3 года назад

Why the threaded inserts? Would a good wood screw not be enough?

@CanadianWoodworks 3 года назад

That's correct, the threaded inserts are much much stronger.

@hrayrohanyan4498 2 года назад

Hello, i have made tabel top (oak) 40inch wide and 80 long, and thikness is 1.5 inch. Dray wood about 8%. Is it crucial to use C channels? And is there any other option to chose instaed of C channel and braedbord to keep tabel top stable. Thank tou in advance

@CanadianWoodworks 2 года назад

Bread board end is also a great choice, C-channels are not 100% necessary, but they are more insurance over the long haul.

@hrayrohanyan4498 2 года назад

@@CanadianWoodworks ok, thanks, so i can use table without c chaneel and breadboard, and it will be ok, yes?

@matthewransom6469 Год назад

What is the size of your depth block?

@CanadianWoodworks Год назад

Just a hair over .75''

@billk.7889 4 года назад

Are you using a spiral up cut bit?

@CanadianWoodworks 4 года назад

Just added some links to the description, yes a down cut is best but we use up cut all the time too (-:

@billk.7889 4 года назад

Canadian Woodworks Thanks, but as I understand it, the benefits of an up-cut spiral bit is better chip ejection and faster feed rates, while down-cut spiral bits excel at cleaner top surfaces (I.e., the bottom of the table top in this case). Wouldn’t it make more sense to use an up-cut bit in this particular case because most of the slot will be hidden by the C channel?

@AlainPilon 4 года назад

@@billk.7889 yes it would

@sali9821 3 года назад

Where can I buy wood to make cutting boards In ontario?

@CanadianWoodworks 3 года назад

Depends on where you're located, we have deals all over Ontario Rob @ Concept 13 in Mississauga Rob @ Stone City in Bath Jesse @ Burnt Brydges in Stratford Riley @ Anderson Woodworking in Powassan Dan & Trevor @ Defined Lumber in London John & Ryan @ Love Your Wood in Waterdown Hope someone is close to you. They should have everything you need!

@sali9821 3 года назад

@@CanadianWoodworks hey, I am in the GTA and these area are within my reach

@sali9821 3 года назад

@@CanadianWoodworks thanks. Much appreciated