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How To Install Happ Joysticks & Buttons on the Arcade1Up Killer Instinct! | Tutorial

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Stick wiring key:
Left = Yellow
Down = Green
Black = Right
Red = Up
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0:00 Intro
0:31 Before You Start
1:23 Removing old joysticks
3:37 Preparing joystick wiring
5:23 Cut and install Happ bases
7:53 Removing/Installing the buttons
18:18 Installing joysticks
20:11 Wiring joysticks
23:21 Check everything/Testing

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@yuckyjon 2 года назад

So I just finished with the controls. Not nearly as easy as you made it look, but I got it done. It's literally a whole new game. Controls are so responsive. I also updated the speakers, and it sounds amazing. Thank you, KAG, for putting out this video. It helped me out tremendously. I love the channel.

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

lol well I’m glad you got it done!

@Spookje09 2 года назад

I have 3 cabs- 40th Anniversary Namco Pac Man, Class of 1981 Ms. Pac Man/Galaga and Atari Legacy Tempest cab. I installed Terry's joysticks in the 2 Pac cabs and Happ buttons on all of them. Incredible difference! The buttons make firing SO much better! The Happ click feeling makes Galaga, Asteroids and Centipede way better than the crappy stock buttons! I gained the most knowledge from this video and, therefore, had a smooth time installing everything, getting the connectors and button wires you linked, even though I did have to use several of the stock button wires w new connectors because the new ones were too short. Having never done any type of job like this, I was apprehensive, but you made it much easier and gave me the confidence to plow through it and it was fun.Thanks and cheers, man!

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

Arcade1Up's click-less buttons are extremely unsatisfying haha. I'm glad the video was helpful! I may be doing a similar one to change the MK 30th anniversary controls. I thought I could get by with them but they're just so bad.

@RyanBarrett80 2 года назад

Hey dude - I just used your tutorial to mod my own KI Cab! This one you made was absolutely perfect. It really helps to have experience with dremeling, using a power drill for the screws, and stripping/crimping wires, but overall I recommend your video to all my friends. Thanks and see you online, bro~!

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

I'm glad it worked out for you, I appreciate the recommendation!

@mr.styles5559 2 года назад

Great video. Just finished my upgrades this morning and went smoothly (short of one button being the wrong style so hoping to get that exchanged). Of all the tutorials for Happ installs I've seen, this has been the most descriptive and helpful. Great work Chris!

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

Nice! Did you get a weird button in your kit from Tornado Terry? Or did you get yours somewhere else? I've ordered 3 KI kits from him now and others. Never had any mistakes yet.

@mr.styles5559 2 года назад

@@KillerArcadeGames Tornado Terry, but he’s already sending a replacement. He’s a standup guy.

@asmongoldandmcconnell 2 года назад

I have never seen a video go so into details about all the aspects of making this upgrade!! Excellent work

@rickmonster636 Год назад

Was doing my MK Deluxe and used this tutorial to sort out all my issues with using the totally wrong tabs on the buttons and joysticks . You’re right they don’t work unless you follow your mod to the T. Thanks Chris for posting this

@KillerArcadeGames Год назад

Glad it helped!

@blessedchild3142 7 месяцев назад

DUDE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. YOUR TUTORIAL REALLY HELPED ME. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!

@KillerArcadeGames 7 месяцев назад

You're welcome!

@brazenloki8417 2 года назад

I will definitely be doing this upgrade, all the quarter circle and half circle moves are so hard on the standard controls, especially Orchids baton charge and Jago's wing kick! Thank you for this video!

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

No problem! I do find it’s easier to pull off moves and combos now.

@trappedintimesurroundedbye5477 2 года назад

@@KillerArcadeGames just think if you put in a sanwa or simitsu

@votedbestjustin Год назад

thanks man! there's a few videos out there for these mods but none as clear as yours. I appreciate it!

@KillerArcadeGames Год назад

Thanks, it’s nice to hear it was easy to follow. I personally hate clunky tutorials with unnecessary info so I try to keep mine to the point.

@RavenCap0807 2 года назад

Yepp. I will be doing this for sure!!! HAPP controls are the Cadillac when it comes to arcade controls! Thanks for the detailed instructions Chris!!

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

They really are!

@RavenCap0807 2 года назад

@@KillerArcadeGames So got my HAPPs installed tonight and I am LOVING IT!!! Thank you Chris for this amazing tutorial!!

@AngryCalvin 2 года назад

Happ joysticks and buttons have the most nostalgic look and feel since I was going to the arcades in the 80's. My dual arcade stick w/trackball deck uses this style. I have an 8bitdo Bluetooth arcade stick for travel. Has the more modern Sanwa type buttons. They are actually more user friendly and work better. Probably better for fighting games. It doesn't have the 80's feel I am used to but I am very happy with it. It's cool to have both options.

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

I can't do the Sanwa sticks. They just don't feel right but I only ever played on Happ/IL when originally playing these games so it's what I know.

@KiwiKoNZ 2 года назад

This is must have upgrade to ALL Arcade 1Up cabs! 😎👍✨

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

Yeah it makes all the difference.

@eliascolon1980 Год назад

KAG! Thank you soooo much for this detailed video! My MK arcade1up gameplay is much more enjoyable now!

@MegamanPtt 2 года назад

i was planing doin this when i get the KIcab. This video helps perfectly!

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

I’m glad to hear it!

@tylerrose9758 Год назад

Exactly what I needed for MvC2 next month. Thanks KAG

@KillerArcadeGames Год назад

👍🏻 no problem

@nephron9924 2 года назад

Went to Tornado Terrys today because of your videos! He's a cool dude and gave me some good tips to wire up these to my Arcade1up. Thanks for the great suggestion! Glad business like his are close by (I live in be Benbrook)

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

That’s awesome! Terry has a cool arcade there. I was there a month ago. I’d love to do a meet up there and give him some more business.

@nephron9924 2 года назад

@@KillerArcadeGames that would be awesome! Let me know, I would definitely go

@RedCGaming 2 года назад

Great Tutorial! When I eventually get a KI cab I will be using this

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

Thanks, I hope it helps people.

@FunkyBandana 11 месяцев назад

Awesome tutorial thanks a lot mate!

@thesmoness Год назад

Just finished tonight. Sure do love the feeling of there joysticks. Still tbd if I can pull off moves any easier

@KillerArcadeGames Год назад

I think they improved my ability to accurately pull off moves. I'm used to the Happ controls so it wasn't a big change for me.

@jmcminn1076 2 года назад

What I’ve done on a couple of my cabs is install happ style buttons and an authentic sanwa joystick. I am not keen on hack-sawing the happ sticks, and find that a real sanwa stick with an 8 way gate is still significantly better than the cheap clones that come stock, while still fitting in the original space without modification.

@nomagichere4398 Год назад

Hi, can you share which buttons and stick you used?

@snkfightfan0187 Год назад

Hey man. Just wanted to let you know that thanks to this tutorial, I was able to change out my sticks and buttons to Happ comp on my MVC2 cab. Just wanted to thank you. Just so everyone knows, after doing this mod, you will not be able yo put the black plastic cover that goes underneath the control deck. Not a big deal for me. Makes the control deck more essesible for testing and changing switches in the future.

@KillerArcadeGames Год назад

I’m glad to hear it!

@MonkeMan1429 2 года назад

Cool Tutorial!👍

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

Thanks Monke Man

@jfacura Год назад

Hi i have do this is super but i have some trouble whit m'y player two eyedool fireball. The joystick is in place not touch the edge. Have any idea

@ohkrazyj7 2 года назад

I really need to do this i struggle with half circles. Im still learning the game but I love it

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

It helps!

@sundarasim4659 6 месяцев назад

Took the joystick base off and cut it with handsaw. Probably the easiest part of the whole process

@michaelsuna6248 2 года назад

also what spring lb load do you recommend?

@nasman7492 Год назад

This was so incredibly clear and easy to understand I wish I had seen your video when I did my Mortal Kombat cab.Getting the sticks perfectly centered like Arcade1up originally did is next to impossible.I wonder if there is a correct way you go about it?

@KillerArcadeGames Год назад

Thanks! I’ve considered some methods to simplify it. I may have been able to make something if I had a 3D printer. It doesn’t have to be 100% perfect but it should be close to make sure you’re not missing inputs or rubbing the sides.

@Superdimensional 2 года назад

If you use about 4-5 washers on each screw under the mounting plate you can put that dust cover underneath and it won’t cover the artwork as much and look more like the original look

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

That’s a great idea! I just don’t want to remove them again to do it haha. Especially not on all of my cabs.

@Superdimensional 2 года назад

@@KillerArcadeGames next time

@damianbrachetti2206 5 месяцев назад

Hey buddy, how do you make them fit longwise? I know I have to trim the base so it doesn't rub the buttons base but what about the length? I have the NBA Shaq and the control deck won't close because they are too long. I didn't buy HAPP but I believe they have the same specifications. Are HAPP shorter?

@chamisbeard8301 7 месяцев назад

Well I gotta tell ya... I just completed this. Went fairly well Ran to a hardware store got some .25 terminals they worked fine I had to crimp the connections very slightly to get a tight connection to the sticks. Everything is working great thanks to your video! The centering of the sticks and drilling was an absolute horrible experience and I hope I never have to do that again! Now I just got to find the buttons. Any recommendations on where to buy? I have the MK1 cab. (Side note on the MK1 Cab You do not have to Cut the mounting bracket on the joystick It fits without any modifications, you just have to drill new mounting holes for the screws.)

@jasonmartinez5116 3 месяца назад

2 years late but you should've went with iL Eurosticks and buttons. The iL Eurostick is the "original" Happ Competition, and they perform a lot better especially with the Cherry microswitches. Current Happ Competitions are Chinese made because Suzo does the parts for Happ now, before 2005 iL supplied the parts for Happ. Happ buttons are still pretty good, but iL's are way better since most come with the Cherry microswitches. Although the color matching dust washer that Eurosticks come with may not be your thing, I personally like it

@KillerArcadeGames 3 месяца назад

I’ve always heard that and I just ordered an IL stick to install on my real KI cabinet to compare with Happ. Part of me hopes I won’t find much difference so I don’t have to replace them in 8 cabinets haha.

@rileykazama3145 2 года назад

Awesome video

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

Thanks!

@longann7560 2 года назад

FROM CRAP TO HAPP. LIKE IT !

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

Hahah I enjoyed that myself

@dcents5458 2 года назад

The Suzo Happ buttons are great. However, the E.L. joysticks are better than the the Happ one. I did this mod to an arcade1up, except I added a raspberry as well to not just be stuck with a small amount of game that they come with.

@Novasonic23 2 года назад

Wow! Great video!

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

Thanks!

@Novasonic23 2 года назад

@@KillerArcadeGames yeah, really detailed

@madastra 2 года назад

DIY Retro Arcade has a wiring adapter for the Happ to A1Up so you don’t have to reuse the stock wires if you don’t want to.

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

Do you have a link for that? I looked but couldn’t find one.

@madastra 2 года назад

@@KillerArcadeGames I confused myself. It was for the Sanwas. I recently ordered both and forgot I ordered the adapter for the Sanwas. Sorry about that.

@capcommunist 2 года назад

I use a Happ Perfect 360° joystick 🕹 in my current arcade sticks. Gonna’ be purchasing the MVC2 Arcade 1up cab and this tutorial looks great but curious if you know how to install the 360? Pretty sure the only difference is a tiny power supply maybe? Not entirely sure.

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

I wasn't even aware of these sticks until I saw this comment. After looking at them, I don't know how you'd install those, not without getting to see one in person.

@pek3to 2 года назад

super nice!

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

Thanks Peketo they feel much better

@Zach_____ 2 года назад

I was wondering if it would be a tighter fit with the new control panel design

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

It’s really affected it. I’m surprised they even fit!

@jeffmicheals7886 2 года назад

Thank you for this , my sticks broke last week

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

No problem, my left side was going out too.

@jarrellwilliams3107 Год назад

I’m currently thinking about installing IL Joysticks to the MK30th, what will I need for this mod? Will I need to buy new wires to connect them? I hear that for MK cabs the installation isn’t as hard and I won’t require cutting of the joystick baseplate but I am unsure

@KillerArcadeGames Год назад

If you follow the link to the KI button set, the same seller has an MK button set. I believe the mod will be very similar to this KI mod so you will probably need some wires. I've heard you won't need to cut the base, I never upgraded my MK30 cab before selling it.

@LordMelchiahX 2 года назад

I don't even have this and I still watched and enjoyed the entire video. Thanks for sharing this. I really want to pull the trigger and purchase this KI arcade machine. Not sure if it's worth waiting for the Pro version or not....if it ever gets released lol. One question I have regarding the cabinet's original buttons and joystick....are quarter circle moves hard to pull off? I'm sure using the happ buttons and stick are better but are the stock ones that much harder? Anyone who knows KI understands how important those quarter circles arw 😂

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

I'm glad you enjoyed it! It's difficult to advise someone on whether they should or shouldn't wait for the Pro model. I'm still impressed by the 1Up KI for what it is. It does have some inconsistencies when compared to the arcade that bother me. Its really only something that annoys me when I do go play my real KI for a while and then come back to the 1Up version. The input lag is the biggest issue for me. That said, the online play is the big draw for me! Its so fun.

@LordMelchiahX 2 года назад

@@KillerArcadeGames I used to play KI since it was released (played both 1 and 2 but the original was just perfection). I used to play the Mame version on my computer and it was really amazing stuff. Having the option to play online against real ppl is an amazing selling point. Random question but if I may...how do you like the MK Legacy machine? That's another arcade machine I'm really eager to buy cuz it got my all time favorite MK games. Thx again for all your videos man. You do us much service.

@TheRealJPhillips 2 года назад

U da damn mann! 👍🏾💯

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

Thanks John!

@RedKryptonyt 2 года назад

Fantastic video Chris. I did the buttons today. Easy as pie. I need the connectors before I can attempt the sticks. I was hoping I could ask you a question about gameplay. I was a big fan of the snes version growing up. I couldn't wait to get my hands on this 1 up. So far I'm loving it but I'm REALLY struggling with pulling off combo breakers. Wondering if you have any tips?

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

Thanks! The buttons are the easiest part but make a big difference if you ask me. I’ve always hated non-Happ buttons lol. There is a good tip about combo breakers someone left me in a comment. I’ll likely screw it up but, if your opponent is doing a combo using fierce attacks, you do your combo breaker using Medium attacks, if their combo is using medium attacks, you use quick attacks while doing your combo breaker input. If they’re using quick punch, you use fierce punch. (Replace punch or kick depending on the character theyre using)

@RedKryptonyt 2 года назад

@@KillerArcadeGames THANKS And keep up the good work.

@JG-ds6qs 2 года назад

For Ms Pac-Man would the 8 way joystick work pretty well or does it affect the movement much? I was considering just putting in a 4 way joystick just for Ms Pac-Man but an 8 way could come in handy if I mod further.

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

I've played Pacman on an 8 way and it seemed fine to me so I'd go that route. I don't know if a 4 way would work well for other games though.

@jormantag 2 года назад

Nice video, I have the doubt if the lever is Suzo Happ Ultimate or Competition?

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

I think they're "cherry" switches. I can't remember exactly what they say but DX something.

@teddyy80 Год назад

Hey how you doing? Good I hope. I have an NBA Jam arcade1up cabinet. I just put new Happ buttons on it. I bought Sanwa sticks that I haven't installed yet but I'm really thinking about going the Industrias Lorenzo route. I don't see a video where anyone has done that TO AN NBA JAM CABINET. I've heard different things like drilling underneath the control deck, etc. I'm not asking you to do a video on it because I think on one of your live streams you answered me saying you don't have that cabinet. But if you can help I would appreciate it. Either way thanks :)

@KillerArcadeGames Год назад

Just seeing this, I replied on the other video you commented on. Hopefully it helps.

@liljazzy4021 Год назад

Did you have to drill into the control panel for the sticks or were you able to use the existing holes?

@KillerArcadeGames Год назад

I had to make new holes.

@statuecollector5723 2 года назад

Are you sure your link for the wood screws is correct on amazon? It shows #6 1inch screws when you press the link. Just want to be 100% sure. Thank you

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

Oops! I have no idea how that happened. It’s been fixed.

@CareerHigh 2 года назад

Got the same setup. I see you on the Leaderboards ...

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

Nice. I saw you too, I’m sure we will run into each other eventually.

@saintgermannWow 2 года назад

How does it feel the tornado terry suzo happ competition joystick 🕹? Do you think IL joysticks will be better or tornado terry it’s an arcade feeling joysticks? Thank you for the video

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

As far as I'm concerned they feel nearly the same and perform nearly the same too. Theres very slight differences so I just go with the Terry's Happ kit since its all bundled together.

@saintgermannWow 2 года назад

@@KillerArcadeGames thank you 🙏

@robkrasinski6217 Год назад

Doesn’t the pro version have happ buttons? I got the pro but didn’t build it yet, the parts are on the spot where it’s going.

@KillerArcadeGames Год назад

It does but apparently it has crappy microswitches.

@Grasshopper-KI 2 года назад

I did the dremel work on one. Any special disco you used? I'm using the sand discs and all I'm doing is melting the plastic. I got the job done but what a mess it is now lol.

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

I don't remember which ones I use but yeah..its always a melting plastic mess haha. Just watch out for those pieces that fly off, they'll burn you.

@Grasshopper-KI 2 года назад

@@KillerArcadeGames Yea I did my mortal kombat way back and didn't have to trim this much off lol. Thanks

@Retrovideogamesandmore 2 года назад

I’m thinking of doing this mod. How do you think these joysticks compare to Sanwa JLF-TP-8YT 5 Pin Joysticks ? Sanwa seem to be the “gold standard “ love the videos too !

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

I've only used Sanwa a few times so its tough to say. I personally have grown up on the Happ controls and always loved them. Its what came in the original arcade, I just put a new set in my real KI cab and it feels great. Sanwa sticks always felt too short and kind of cheap compared to Happ. I'm not saying they are cheap, that's just my opinion of how they felt.

@Retrovideogamesandmore 2 года назад

@@KillerArcadeGames thank you for the info. I’m all about keeping things original so I’m going to hop on this set. Thanks again and love the videos.

@sony4k270 2 года назад

What pound spring comes with the joystick?

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

I looked this up and couldn’t find an answer. They’re much stronger than the stock ones though. They spring back into position nicely.

@marcludwick512 Год назад

How are your Happ sticks from Tornado Terry's?? Should I get these, or the IL Eurosticks?

@KillerArcadeGames Год назад

I love them. I haven't tried IL sticks, at least I haven't know it if I have. As far as I've heard, they're very similar. I've used the Happ sticks from Terry in all my cabinets and always enjoy them. I'm ordering a new set for an MK4 arcade I just bought soon.

@marcludwick512 Год назад

@@KillerArcadeGames Ok, thanks. Need a pair of joysticks and was debating which ones to get.

@chamisbeard8301 7 месяцев назад

What size Terminals are needed for the Joysticks?

@KillerArcadeGames 7 месяцев назад

I don’t remember at the moment but they’re the same size as the Happ buttons.

@patrickm4913 2 года назад

Where'd you get the awesome KI bezel?

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

That one is from here: www.escapepodonline.com/products/arcade1up-killer-instinct-complete-art-kit-v2 You can order just the bezel from the menu.

@wingheads Год назад

Any way to remove the white lines on the plexiglass?

@KillerArcadeGames Год назад

Not that I know of. I could have sworn someone told me they removed theirs by soaking it in some chemical. I'd be worried it would make the plexiglass look cloudy.

@nickgerula 2 года назад

Did you have to drill a little hole for the stick bottoms (end of the stick/ E clamp) on the bottom of the dust cover or did you not use the cover again?

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

I used the dust covers that came with the Happ sticks, no drilling required. I may be misunderstanding your question.

@nickgerula 2 года назад

Oh sorry should of been more clear. I was referring to the dust cover that covers all the wires and controls. The "factory" black cover under the deck.

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

Oh, I just threw that away. It won't fit.

@fetusentrails 2 года назад

So I have all the parts but my only question is this. The Happ joystick’s mounting holes don’t come anywhere close to the original holes already in the bottom of the deck (from the stock joystick). Do I need to drill new holes or what? Can I just screw in those suggested screws into the deck and not worry about it splitting the wood and cracking the deck?

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

Hey Will, the holes won’t line up with the originals. You can drill a small pilot hole. I typically do before putting the screws in. Keep it pretty small though, you want to be sure the screws still have plenty of material to grab onto. The deck probably wouldn’t crack since it’s particle board but pilot holes make it easier to screw them in.

@fetusentrails 2 года назад

Thanks, Chris! I appreciate the videos and help!!!

@Anaconda-squeeze Год назад

I dont understand...their website says all pro ki cabs already come with suzo happ joysticks and buttons....is there different levels of suzo happ joysticks???

@KillerArcadeGames Год назад

I have the regular cabinet, not the pro. But, the Pro does have Happ. They still aren’t as good as the Happ Competition sticks.

@Wu373-5 11 месяцев назад

What’s your name on Mortal Kombat for the arcade 1up cabinets?

@KillerArcadeGames 11 месяцев назад

I don't have the MK 1Up anymore but I still have the KI 1up. My name is KillerArcdeGames (No "A" in the middle on purpose, it wouldn't fit)

@trevoroickle7753 2 года назад

Just a heads up you don’t use the end of the crimpers for crimping lol

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

🤷🏻‍♂️😂

@RetroBlissGaming 7 месяцев назад

Are Happ buttons different sizes? Just asking so I don’t order the wrong buttons?

@KillerArcadeGames 7 месяцев назад

I don’t think they make any of this style button in different sizes.

@cMARVEL360 5 месяцев назад

Happ only makes Long Stem buttons. But if you go to buy in to Industrias Lorenzo they do make Short Stem, and Long Stem Buttons. I Highly! Suggest the Long Stem buttons. In the short stem buttons, they use Long Stem sizes Springs, and that makes the spring sit with tension, so it makes the buttons feel more stiff than a Long Stem button.

@asmongoldandmcconnell 2 года назад

I guess I forgot or missed it do u have to cut the bottom of the joysticks?

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

They do need to be cut.

@asmongoldandmcconnell 2 года назад

@@KillerArcadeGames alright thanks

@paulsanchez7863 5 месяцев назад

Mine only moves forward any tips

@KillerArcadeGames 5 месяцев назад

Have you wired the other directions too? I'd double check that your connectors are tight on the microswitches and plugged into the right place on the PCB.

@michaelsuna6248 2 года назад

Why Suzo Happ vs IL. Ive been reading that IL are just better quality sticks these days. thoughts?

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

I haven’t had much experience with IL. I probably played on them back when these games were releasing in arcades but I find the Happ sticks to satisfy me. If you gave me a blind test I doubt I’d know the difference. I’m sure they’re both good. I’ve had Happ running in my original KI mod since 2018 and they still work like new. Both of these brands are built for commercial use and will likely not ever fail on you in a home use setting. As far as the spring goes, I just use whatever comes in the Happ sticks. It’s strong and feels good to me. I don’t think I’ve heard of anyone changing the springs outside of Japanese sticks. I honestly don’t know if they sell different springs for Happ or IL.

@AvnerRosenstein-ULTRA-LXV 11 месяцев назад

Where did you get the wiring for the Joysticks? It's the only thing I don't see linked in the description.

@KillerArcadeGames 11 месяцев назад

I just used the existing stick wires and put new wire leads on them.

@AvnerRosenstein-ULTRA-LXV 11 месяцев назад

@@KillerArcadeGames I bought some Happs and am gonna put them in an MK 30th anniversary cab. I ended up opting to instead buy these wiring harnesses from Arcade Shock. They hook to the microswitches and all of the wires are connected to a 5 pin male connector. I'll hook that to the female 5 pin connector I have from my Sanwa's...which will go to the board. I hope this works lol. Thanks for the swift reply! Did you have to cut the bases for the Happs on the MK cabs?

@CalgaryHeli 2 года назад

I just want to mention that unfortunately tornadoterry does not ship to Canada(and perhaps elsewhere). I found what I think are the same buttons and sticks as in the video, sold on ebay by a seller named 4partyfun who will ship international. Hope this helps someone! 👍

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

Ah, good to know!

@bucky5676 2 года назад

Oh boy. Unfortunately. I’m prob going to have to do this (eventually) or wait for a pnp solution. For now I’m still playing with busted sticks, which is why you keep winning btw. (Lol jk) your KI skill is at expert level.

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

Hahah the sticks are helping a bit for sure. I feel like I’ve had a big leap in skill from getting to play real people instead of AI. It’s been fun!

@bucky5676 2 года назад

@@KillerArcadeGames dude heck yea It’s fun. There aren’t any arcades within reasonable distance here. The online feature was definitely the selling point for me. Happy to get a few matches in with you.

@lavawingsplays1627 2 года назад

I really want just my sticks upgraded, but this process looks really tough to do and I'm worried I'll either screw something up or not be able to get the new sticks back in the right way. I can't believe how shit the Arcade 1up controls are for the price they charge for these cabinets.

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

I always say if I can do it, and figure it all out myself, you can probably do it haha. I'm reasonably handy but I'm not great at executing all of my visions. The first time I did this was when there were no tutorials so I just had to wing it and find a way. I've done it many times since then, it's actually not so bad.

@deadmousyplutaprestige8771 2 года назад

Interesting arcade 1up changed the construction of how the original controls are assembled. Marvel vs Capcom were easy to swap out

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

I’ve never changed a stock 1Up cabs controls so I can’t compare it. The deck isn’t as wide as the old one since it’s sits in between the sides instead of on top of them. It sure makes fitting the sticks in there even harder.

@kevinthorn9672 2 года назад

Just finally bought this ki for 399$ so i dont need the crimp tool and the heads i can use the enoder cords from the encoders i have lol to put the happ buttons on.

@samgao 2 года назад

Why not IL? The pricing is not that much different and their quality is higher! But good tutorial!

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

I’ve never had an issue with Happ, the kit is also easily obtained. I’m sure the IL sticks are good though. If Happ ever fails me I’ll try them.

@CalgaryHeli 2 года назад

Awesome video and channel! I’ve been trying to post a comment for a few days now, but it always seems to get deleted right away? Is it maybe because I am trying to put a web link in the comment?

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

Thanks! Yeah, links get automatically caught up in the "held for review" section and I rarely check it. I'll go look.

@CalgaryHeli 2 года назад

Ohh! You might find a couple in there from me! 🤣

@liquidjuice1 Год назад

where can you buy the new connector's for the happ stick? thanks

@KillerArcadeGames Год назад

These are what I used. You will have to connect them to the Arcade1Up wires, I show it in the video though. amzn.to/35okM7J

@liquidjuice1 Год назад

@@KillerArcadeGames thanks for the reply! are they the 0.187 inch wires?

@KillerArcadeGames Год назад

Yeah, they will fit onto the Happ stick's microswitches.

@liquidjuice1 Год назад

@@KillerArcadeGames thank you!!

@rayplaysgames_RPG Год назад

You have the white and blue wires, what do you need those red wire tips for?

@KillerArcadeGames Год назад

I only had a few of those from a previous 1Up mod. Not enough to do the whole thing. You could buy extras of those and do most of it with the blue and white but I don't think they'll all reach so you may need to cut and splice the wires together.

@rayplaysgames_RPG Год назад

@@KillerArcadeGames oh I see I got to the part where you do the sticks and the red clips come into play

@rayplaysgames_RPG Год назад

@@KillerArcadeGames another quick question. I ordered il euro sticks and buttons. Will the blue/white wire pack plus those red wire tips work for the il set up as well?

@KillerArcadeGames Год назад

@@rayplaysgames_RPG they should work. All of that stuff is pretty universal.

@rayplaysgames_RPG Год назад

@@KillerArcadeGames sorry man one more question. Those blue and white wires are out of stock with no date for a restock, so I ordered the baby blue wires brand name guwarry. Will these do the trick? They are on the same amazon page right above the ones you recommended.

@jalee6587 Год назад

The killer instinct came with significantly upgraded joysticks over typical a1u cabs.

@Combustion_King_ 2 года назад

It way easier and better to re solder vs clamping ends on the wires. The gauge of the stock wires is so thin that the crimping is not what you want for long term imo

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

I don't have a soldering iron yet. I do need to get one to work on my real cabinets. It seems something is always needing a soldering/desoldering lol.

@Combustion_King_ 2 года назад

@@KillerArcadeGames oh defiantly. It may take some practice but in the end it’s the better direction.

@raptor2569 2 года назад

Could removed the gate off first. But great video!👍

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

Eh, nothing would have saved the stock sticks in my opinion lol

@terrycaleb322 2 года назад

I wish I have one of them

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

Look around on Facebook marketplace you might find a deal!

@terrycaleb322 2 года назад

@firestarterx 2 года назад

Where did u buy the happ buttons?

@fireite605 2 года назад

You can buy them from Tornado Terry on his Ebay store. I got mine from him and installed them on my KI.

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

Tornado Terry! goo.gl/E5dHJD

@firestarterx 2 года назад

Unfortunately they don’t ship to canada

@jeanfrancoisfournier8456 2 года назад

@@firestarterx Where i can find happ buttons ? I live in Canada too

@kingsofcobra 2 года назад

I installed Sanwa sticks because I didn't know how to install Happ sticks. The Sanwa is nice but I might change them. Let me keep watching

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

I wasn’t exactly sure how to do it myself but I worked my way through it thankfully 😅

@alejandroaguilar9038 Год назад

What i hate about these 1ups is the quality of the cab and the fact they could have made them Wider - Caberet

@TheRealDustinNunn 2 года назад

Those buttons need to be replaced with either Sanwa buttons or the PowerA Fusion arcade stick controller domed buttons.

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

I've never been a Sanwa fan but to each their own. I preferred Happ since it came in almost every arcade cabinet I ever played as a kid. My real KI cabinet has Happ/IL controls and I stuck with it.

@TheRealDustinNunn 2 года назад

@@KillerArcadeGames Are the Sanwa buttons oversensitive?

@midwesterror 2 года назад

iL Eurostick more true match to original Happ sticks from the 90s.

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

I've heard that and I think the sticks that were on the real KI cab I bought were IL. I've never had any issues with the Happ sticks and they come bundled in that kit from Tornado Terry so I just buy that for the ease of ordering.

@midwesterror 2 года назад

@@KillerArcadeGames yeah he sells SuzoHapp despite just labeling it as Happ on eBay. They aren't the same quality they used to be. But if you like them then it's all good. 👍

@nathanrivera7895 2 года назад

02:41 that's what she said! 😉

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

Hahaha

@trappedintimesurroundedbye5477 2 года назад

why not just a sanwa with 3 or 4 pound spring 🤔 lol and happ buttons

@KillerArcadeGames 2 года назад

I only like Happ controls. I was used to them from being a kid in arcades that had them, I changed all my other cabinets to them and have the real KI cab with them. I guess I’m addicted? Lol

@trappedintimesurroundedbye5477 2 года назад

@Killer Arcade Games yeah i grew up with them I'm 48 but sanwa and simitsu are fantastic especially changing spring and adding octagonal Restrictor