How to intercept an ILS in the PMDG DC-6 - Microsoft Flight Simulator

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Capturing an ILS in the PMDG DC-6 can be a little unintuitive, if you're used to flying ILS approaches in other aircraft. Today I'll be running through how to capture an ILS in the PMDG DC-6 so that you can consistently fly them every time.
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00:00 Intro
01:47 Approach Overview/Chart
03:22 Flight deck setup
09:20 Intercepting the ILS & landing
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@BobbyFuzzy 3 года назад

I hope this video helped you! If it did please let me know by hitting the thumbs up! Would you like to see more videos on the PMDG DC-6? If so, what would you like to see?

@Aristoprat 3 года назад

Thank you, I've been looking for answer to this problem everywhere without success.

@BobbyFuzzy 3 года назад

Glad to help!

@adambanks8753 3 года назад

Fantastic!!! Many thanks for the GNS430 workaround. It's been driving me crazy.

@BobbyFuzzy 3 года назад

Glad it helped! Hopefully this is only a temporary thing but can get you on your way in IMC for now!

@ag_a3346 2 года назад

Very helpful video as I really appreciate the time you have taken to produce this and offer the tips required to capture the ILS. Many thanks once again and keep up the excellent work!!

@BobbyFuzzy 2 года назад

Pleasure! And thank you for taking the time to comment!

@JoeyPilotYT 2 года назад

I'm definitely going to try this method the next time I fly the DC-6. Pretty ridiculous though that they haven't fixed this issue, even after several months.

@BobbyFuzzy 2 года назад

Awesome, let me know how you get on!

@hades_monsta 2 года назад

@@BobbyFuzzy It's been a few mpnths now, is it fixed now?

@BobbyFuzzy 2 года назад

Unfortunately not!

@kermitreturnz 3 месяца назад

Fixed now?

@dkgolfnut 3 года назад

Nicely done. Thx for the help

@BobbyFuzzy 3 года назад

Pleasure! Glad it helped! Thanks for the feedback. :)

@SoyDelSouth 3 года назад

I dug through the official handbook and nada... thanks for this!

@BobbyFuzzy 3 года назад

Pleasure! There's a note about it in the introduction but it's very brief and I didn't find it that clear initially, hence why I made this!

@yams900 3 года назад

Good news ! It worked just fine :) Course was setup by FS2020 in such a way, that intercepting lozalizer was at 90º, way too sharp, DC6 overshot and turning back. Next time I'll turn to 30-45º so it's more gentle. I caught the glidescope as well :) Just more practice, it's all very fast..many commands in short period of time. Thanks for helping, much appreciated. Ronnie

@BobbyFuzzy 3 года назад

Yes it can be a bit of a handful! Highly recommend using some custom cameras to allow you to switch between different views in quick succession! Glad it worked for you :)

@joshybfps 2 года назад

great video new sub!

@BobbyFuzzy 2 года назад

Thanks for the kind words and welcome! 🙏

@sloppydog4831 2 года назад

Hello! Nice video. Thanks for this. I didn't know that the DC 6 could do ILS approaches. It makes me not to buy the 737 again, the DC 6 is slow but is lots of fun.

@BobbyFuzzy 2 года назад

Thank you dude! The DC6 is a tonne of fun I agree!

@yams900 3 года назад

Finally an awesome tutorial about ILS and PMDG DC-6 ! I've had various luck, with you help, I'll be a master in this subject. Just a question or two. Do you need to catch the localizer in an angle, say 45 degrees ? I've been flying straight in, same course, from far away. Maybe wrong tactics.2nd question, when should the approach light come on ? Read your post in PMDG forum,thought..Thank God, finally an answer ! Cheers, Ronnie

@BobbyFuzzy 3 года назад

Thank you! I hope it is helpful for you. Not necessarily a smaller intercept than that would be fine and you might even get away with something bigger. I suppose flying straight in it maybe more difficult to see if the capture actually happened but it should still work. Essentially all you’re doing is giving the system a little nudge so that it starts tracking the needles. The main thing is just to make sure you’re ready for it and not distracted by anything else! Hopefully it won’t always be this way. Approach lights I assume you mean landing lights? I can’t remember the figure off the top of my head but they come on below around 140kts. If you check the checklist in the manual it will give you the exact figure. Any more questions feel free to drop them in here! Thanks, Rob

@yams900 3 года назад

@@BobbyFuzzy Help was just perfect, exactly what I had been looking/hoping for. Next to the selection knob for the mode, there’s a blue light. I’m sure it will light up when there’s a signal. Must check again…just logged off my computer. I was thinking…use slew mode, place plane you like, check out more carefully what’s going on. All good ! Happy flying :)

@BobbyFuzzy 3 года назад

@@yams900 The blue light will usually always be on when you're using the gyropilot with the GPS. I usually look at the DME window along with the CDI to verify when I am in range of the ILS. But yes by all means slew yourself over the practice! Thank you and you too!

@jpd1627 2 года назад

Congratulations for your great video! Just wanted to know one thing before my next flight: when in gyro mode, can the airplane's heading be controlled using the HDG dial knob? or this is only possible by using the Sperry A-12 Autopilot Control switch (Gyropilot).

@BobbyFuzzy 2 года назад

Thank you so much! In gyro mode you can only adjust the airplanes heading using the large roll knob on top of the gyropilot. Appreciate the comment thanks 😊

@bradsparks6008 3 года назад

Amazing! I managed to do it once but not again this just picks up where I am mistaken! What scenery are you using?

@BobbyFuzzy 3 года назад

Thank you Brad! It can still be a bit funky but this is the best method I've found, make sure the needles are moving before you double tap. I was using Digital Design's Salzburg for this video. It's great but a bit of a performance killer!

@Adventure494 2 года назад

Thanks for the vid, can this also work with the radios only? Thanks

@BobbyFuzzy 2 года назад

Absolutely!

@DanielDuhon 3 года назад

THABK YOU! I’ve been wondering why the Gyropilot hasn’t been working for ILS

@BobbyFuzzy 3 года назад

Pleasure! Hope it continues to help until we see a proper fix by Asobo.

@B_mata 2 года назад

Really helpful video but how do you initiate a VLOC if only using the Bendix radios and not the Garmin?

@BobbyFuzzy 2 года назад

This video was more to show the strange workaround we have to do with the Garmin. With the Bendix radios it’s like any other aircraft. Just make sure you have dialled in the ILS on NAV1, pay attention to your CDI and as you’re coming on to the localiser use localiser on the gyropilot and then approach for the glideslope. It’s a similar process but works far more reliably.

@oohan101 3 года назад

Great video!! :) How do you switch the GPS to a map view? Sorry if its a dumb question

@BobbyFuzzy 3 года назад

Thanks Shayne! Rotate the right hand inner knob once clockwise, if my memory serves me correctly!

@TheRangerDale 2 года назад

Was wondering your 430 should you set the activate it for the selceted Rwy ? Or had it setup for that rwy 15 and when the plane turn on the ILS go to 430 and activate it for the rwy ?

@BobbyFuzzy 2 года назад

If you’re using the default 430 you shouldn’t need to activate approach mode, it does it automatically.

@Paradyski Год назад

DC6 and A310 for me are the best planes so far in MSF

@BobbyFuzzy Год назад

They are fantastic!

@pereraronshi Год назад

Thanks for the great tutorial. Unfortunately for me I still haven't managed to successfully do an ILS approach after following your instructions. Once the needle starts moving I switch it to Localizer Mode and tap the CDI button twice, however instead of the aircraft turning towards the localizer it just starts doing circles!! I've updated the GNS 430 and checked the flight plan which is loaded correctly with the ILS approach. And yes, I activated the approach phase in it. Not sure what else I can do :(

@BobbyFuzzy Год назад

Hmmm! I've not flown the DC6 in a good while so not totally aware if there are any new bugs... That being said the only thing I can think of is your intercept angle? Is it steep? It can be a bit temperamental about these things! Does it work with the Bendix radios?

@pereraronshi Год назад

@@BobbyFuzzy I have since got it to work a couple of times but it’s very temperamental. Angle has to be perfect and it struggles with any crosswind. I just manually land it now. It’s super stable once setup on the approach

@BobbyFuzzy Год назад

Sounds about right! Remember this is 50's tech

@fabiotahiti8494 2 года назад

Bonjour comment mettre les indications des différents boutons de l'avion merci beaucoup

@BobbyFuzzy 2 года назад

Hi, which indications do you refer to? Sorry not a French speaker and translation probably not great!

@MrScottgp 2 года назад

Does the altitude hold have to be off on the gyro to capture?

@BobbyFuzzy 2 года назад

No it should capture with altitude control on.

@yams900 3 года назад

One more question, it’s related to this tutorial, kind of :) Are there any keyboard shortcuts for operating the Gyro ? It would be so much quicker, I could program my iPad running Metagrid. I’d like to shortcuts for, Giro Pilot/Localizer/Approach modes + Altitude hold on/off, Auto Pilot on/off + the lever towards the floor. Any help appreciated. Ronnie

@BobbyFuzzy 3 года назад

Auto pilot on off you can use the normal binds in MSFS (I used autopilot master toggle). Couple this with the realistic auto pilot dis/engage in the tablet to your taste. Other than that I don’t think so. There’s a discussion on the PMDG forums about that at the moment so maybe some better suggestions there. You might be able to use LVARs if you use AxisAndOhs or something similar though I’ve not tried that yet.

@yams900 3 года назад

@@BobbyFuzzy Cool, I’m heaps better flying ILS now. Hey, if you’ve got time…could you please make tutorial of planning and flying route without GPS. Then switch off that Garmin and fly just old fashioned :)

@BobbyFuzzy 3 года назад

Hey Ronnie, I actually have done a couple of streams recently where I did just that. If you look up my streams ‘into the nordics’ and ‘the flying bulls’ (recordings are here on RU-vid) I go through all my flight planning right from the start! But thanks for the video idea I may do just that in the future.

@yams900 3 года назад

@@BobbyFuzzy Excellent mate ! I’ll have a look. I’d like do old fashioned way, find some old timetables and fly like they did in the 50’ties or even earlier

@BobbyFuzzy 3 года назад

@@yams900 Enjoy! I'm not a total expert at it and it's difficult esp. in Europe due to the prevalence of RNAV routing but it's great fun nevertheless! I found this absolute goldmine the other week, sounds like exactly what you're looking for! - www.timetableimages.com/

@CraigyBabyJ 2 года назад

How do you guys adjust your trim I have it set to an axis and sensitivity right down but it's still way to sensitive?

@BobbyFuzzy 2 года назад

I am using a hat switch on my joystick so it's basically a button press. They upped the sensitivity of the trim since the latest MSFS update also which probably plays a part. I'd recommend checking out AxisAndOhs (justflight.com) for more customisation.

@CraigyBabyJ 2 года назад

@@BobbyFuzzy I thought they had changed something no matter what I fly it just goes crazy, I've done what you did set a hat switch for up down and a button to centre it. :)

@BobbyFuzzy 2 года назад

Hope it helps! I imagine it will change again in a future update to the sim.

@CraigyBabyJ 2 года назад

@@BobbyFuzzy everytime it updates it break's lol

@macbrush 2 года назад

Still quite buggy for me, I fly VOR to VOR exclusively, and VOR navigation often fails mid flight if I flew long haul, and to the same effect, ILS wouldn't engage at all. I tried your method, but still couldn't make them work again... Very annoying. PDMG doesn't seems to be very interested in replying my report as well, several people have the same issue as well.

@BobbyFuzzy 2 года назад

Are you flying VOR’s using the GPS or Bendix radios? Although I haven’t used the DC6 since SU5, always works flawlessly for me with the Bendix, ILS and all. Problem is if you’re using the GPS, that’s more of an Asobo issue. There’s not much PMDG can do. I’d recommend trying the GNS530 mod though too if you haven’t already.

@bobcardone7437 Год назад

One year later, still the Gyropilot mode on an ILS approach is still erratic. Sometimes it will not follow either the GPS track or the glideslope when on the localizer. This will probably never be fixed. \

@BobbyFuzzy Год назад

Yeah, it's strange, apparently it was a sim issue when this plane was launched... That being said the last time I flew it on an ILS which was the first in a long time it worked OK.

@olip.6243 3 года назад

I think it is a very difficult procedure!

@BobbyFuzzy 3 года назад

Yes it definitely shouldn't be this difficult. It's not how you would do this in the real aircraft... Waiting on Asobo to fix this!

@juancho420 3 года назад

I still can't get it to work consistently...

@BobbyFuzzy 3 года назад

Assuming everything else is tuned and identified correctly - make sure the needles are moving before you double tap the button. It can still be a bit dodgy though and I would always be prepared to take over manually.