How to Keep Your Bow at Peak Weight 

Great video. Very informative. Older guy here and have shot high poundage bows with 30% let off when a lot younger. Guess I didn’t know any better… or maybe I did. More poundage…more speed. Paying price now with rotator cuff surgery twice on both shoulders. Would like to see a video with information from your experience that you don’t have to have a maxed out bow for hunting. You need to be proficient is the key . Practice,practice and practice some more. Later in life you reap those consequences of not being able to pull sufficient weight for fair chase humane harvest by shooting high poundage bows if your not proficient with them. Believe me I know as I no longer have the ability to pull the weight as I thought I needed to shoot a high poundage bow and I practiced a LOT.

Great video! How would I adjust a single cam bow? It has the split yoke(cables) at the top. My bow is around 68 maxed out currently

I record my bow and rest specs when it's tuned. If something changes, peak weight in this example, your bow string may have stretched enough to be measurable. Equal twists on both ends will bring it back to your starting length.

Can you elaborate on the effects of cable twisting on letoff and valley? I've changed cables on V3 31 and letoff is now way more than 85%, closer to 90% and the drop into back wall became very uncomfortable. Meanwhile I have only 68.4# with 70# mods maxed out. I don't really care about the poundage so can I increase the letoff back to normal by taking out twists from the cables?

You're very good at RU-vid vids mate, well explained.

I only shoot 60#, when it's cold out and you've been sitting for 3 hours and your super stiff and a monster walks by, you'll be wishing you were at 50#. Love your vids man!

Sorry did I missed something did you mentioned to get back the bow to same poundage by turning a string on both sides or canles including yokes on one side?

Thanks for the video..like many..I have taken on my own bow work recently.

Good video, but you kept calling the string a cable and the cables the string

very informative. how does adding twist on string to shorten draw length affect draw weight after adding twist to cable to get to stock peak weight?

So, i recently bought a v3x 33 with a 75lbs mod, i ran the bow with only 62lbs for a few weeks in prep for LAS Classic, after the event I maxed out the limbs to get 75lbs, but i was getting around 72lbs max. I thought maybe the strings had stretched so i used that as an excuse to get the Gas Ghost Xv, surprisingly, I'm still getting 72lbs, even after the bow guy gave a the cables a few twists. Are you running into similar stories ? - bow guy didn't feel comfortable twisting the cables any more , which i get that. Thanks! - sorryfor the long comment

I'd like to see an in depth video from you about strings and how material and dyes and the process can affect the quality. Great vid bud.

I genuinely check the ATA first and twist the bottom of the string first that also stretches 1/8 or a touch more the rotates the cam one direction the then add equal twist into the control cables to get the poundage up 2lbs over peak weight but I think limbs also break in as well .

This is amazing information that some of us need to learn and work on our own bows. Thank you

Good way to increase the weight. On my revolt Xl the time gets advanced if I shorten the cables on both end

Great video. Keep the tunning videos coming. 👍👍

So 3 twist opposite bottom of buss cable? And 3 twist top of control cable? I'm confused

Using the words cable and string interchangeably creates some confusion.

Hi I just change the mods. On a Mathews V3x from # 70 and 27.5 draw length and 63 pound draw weight I replaced them with #65 and 28” draw length but after I replaced the mods the draw weight from 63 pounds went down to 55 pound draw weight I tried to crank it up but the limp is maxed out, I called Mathews costume service and said that the string and cable needs to be twisted so how many turn each the cable and string needs to be twisted? I never thought by changing the mods I would loose 8 pounds of draw weight, is this normal? Thank you

6 twists into my cables and 2 out of string , lengthen my draw 3/16”

What about your rest cable/string? Will adding twist to that cable mess with your rest timing? My poundage has dropped about #6, so I was just gonna use the V3X’s SAS system but my string for the rest is tied in and I was worried about throwing everything out of whack.

Bb

Does this apply for a single cam bow?

How you doing I hope all is well hope and you have a great hunting season you and your group. I. I have a question for you I live in New Jersey. I'm looking for PSE drive-in drive NXT and black right is right handed 60 or 70 pounds. Do you have any leftover he left over and was the price. Or do you know where I can get a good deal on 1. Cause I know PSE 2022 bows are coming out

What gets confusing to me is when you and others interchange terms, as in strings and cables.

Dude this saved me from so much additional frustration. I could not figure out why I was shooting so low after being DIALED in.. thank you

Should you add/remove equal twists to both ends of the string to slightly adjust the DL, or just the bottom string? Thanks!

I just put ABB strings and cables on my bow and the timing and draw weight were way off. I think they missed some twist when they made them. They had frayed strands right out of the package too. Pretty sure the paper clip caused that. On one of the cables the clip was through the strands. I noticed something was off when I 1st installed them and I had to press the bow more to get the string on after installing cables. I got the timing and cam sync set but my draw length is noticeably shorter hence watching this video. One last thing about the ABB strings, they served the end loops which makes it harder to get on the cam and I can't add twist to them.

My V3x 33 was about 1/2 inch long, when I took a couple turns each cable it measured spot on 33 but had no valley why?

I just got my first bow, and my peep is twisting like crazy. Any easy way to fix that, or am I going to have to bring it into a shop?

Hence why anytime I buy a bow first thing I do is throw factory strings in the garage where they belong lol

Zebra string are not the best, like you said the price point. Which I heard they price is going up on Mathews

So I could safely take my Ventum 33 from 80 to 85lbs?

One thing I’ve noticed is it seems like some of the zebra strings are already spun if that makes sense if you put a peep in the gaps are small like it was to tight

I realize that is a demo bow, but do interested buyers actually shoot the bow without any peep tie in at all safely.

Will putting twists in that Mathews change your tune?

Thanks for the addendum on PSE… I was wondering why tuning was showing few results. Thanks!

That is for a duel cam but what about a single cam

That was verry informative thank you verry much

I have a V3X that used to be 70 lbs. When it was at 70 I had perfect paper tears. Now after hundreds of shots and a few months time it's only pulling 67 lbs. I know that I need to twist the cables to get it back to 70. My question is, will I need to paper tune it again after I'm done?

I have a 29" phase 4 and the axle to axle is about 29.25"... do I fix that this same way? I ordered a bow press and it arrives tomorrow! Got sick of my local pro shop

Keep the videos coming. I really appreciate all the content

You are a real pro dude

Thanks! good info

I generally measure specs on my Mathews new and I start with my string adding twist on the bottom cam post that further reduces poundage changes the rotation of the cams as well but getting ATA in specs first then add equal twist on the control cables to get poundage about 1.5 pounds above peak that I'm getting with #65 mods and using a scale to get the best feel in the valley and holding weight into letoff using a scale and calculator I'm actually getting 84% letoff on the Vertix but guessing it's different due to having a 28.5 drawlength and it's approximate with 85% letoff mods but I think limbs do break-in because when it was new it was pulling hotter at 68lbs now I'm getting 66.7lbs using strictly factory Zebra Trophy strings and measure everything including checking and making a 1/2' twist correction on the bottom cam timing that tends to open up a little between 50 and 100 shot settling period that locks it down.

Gold , thank you.

Good Video Sir.......So putting twists in the cables top and bottom equally, should not throw off your timing correct?

I just purchased Hoyt strings for my Helix Ultra last week and now it maxes out at 64 lbs now. Terrible! I wish I would have known more about string options and their weight variances.

The guys at my local archery shop who all seem like they’re either fresh out of college or high school were telling me that if I add twists to my cables to get my bow up to 70lbs then I would have to do all sorts of tuning after. How accurate is that?

Great video

Where are located?

Very helpful 👍🎯

thank you, have an awesome day

Can you tell me if your doing one full turn, 360 degrees or are you just doing one half turn? Hard to see that, at least for my eyes.

Thanks, I didnt know.

my gas ghost xv string set never lost over an ounce or 2 over 4 k shots

Pse evo NTN when you say both sides do you add twist to both sides of the control and buss cable or just put a couple twist in each of them?

I want to lengthen draw on my v3x by 1/4”…. How should i go about that

Hey after you did 3 twist on each end you didn't check timing I kno u kno what ur doing im just saying don't u some times have to do 3 twist at one and an maybe 4 or only 2 to make sure timing is correct you see what I'm saying thanks for your time

is it the same on the Hoyt RX3 ?

interesting stuff

Thanks bro!!!!!

So, maybe a dumb question, could you get away with reducing the weight a little by removing twists? Let’s say it’s pulling heavy but you want to keep the limb bolts snugged all the way down.

Giveaway!

Why would I not turn the string on the other side of the Cam?

Great Info there mate !!

See how tight the string is after the cable twist. To me, that will shorten the draw length?

That's all OK but now your bow draw length will be way to long,

Is it possible for me to make my bow go out of tune by doing this?

Does adding draw weight to Your limbs (70lbs to 73lbs) also apply to older Matthews Z7 and Z7 Magnum bows? Or does it just apply to newer bows?

Does this affect overall bow tuning and timing of the cams?

How do you add weight to a single limb bow. Mathews Heli M

What about if twisting up your cables puts you shorter than recommended ATA?

Hey my bow is hoyt nitrux it's at 64 pouund it's only 65 pounds bow which string s do I add twists to increase poundage the main string or the bus cable

I was just messaging Brent at A3 about this because it’s the first time I’m replacing a stock set of strings on my Halon 32 6. It’s creeped down to 69# and I started running a heavier DaySix arrow. I’d love to get an 80# bow but can you buy a new bow over treating the kids.. mmm.. so maybe I should get a supporting opinion. Should I.. get the A3 Bloodlines and twist it up to 76#s. I could afford to gain a half inch to my draw which would put me right at 32” and I’m running 75% let off so if that got closer to 80% that wouldn’t be bad either. What are your thoughts?

So if someone wanted to increase poundage, twist cables only or cable and string?

How would you do a single cam bow?

Mathews makes good bows but their strings are the worst factory stings. You d think they would do better on that end.

So if u need to shorten your draw length u said put a twist in the bottom cam. Won't that turn your peep?

How does this work for a single cam bow? Would I need to twist the cable AND the string? Or twist the cable at the cam then twist each yolk the same at the top by the idler wheel?

What are your favorite aftermarket strings ?

Is this going to change brace height at all?

Zebra strings are not good man. I’ve had way better luck with fuse strings. But I am an avid GAS string guy.

The V3 is the best bow I have ever shoot. Easy to draw and shoots like a dream. Not sure how Mathews could make something better.

I always use after market strings. That are pre stretched. My poundage stays pretty good at 62 pounds . 1st thing I do to a bow is put after market strings on. Nice video

what do you do if you have twisted the cam cables but now your out side you timing marks or your cams, they are still in time but outside the timing mark window. also can this make a situation we’re now when you try to time your cams add 1/2 twist will move your timing further then it typically would causing your timing to flip open on top add a 1/2 twist then open on bottom?