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How to Kill Fireclaws | Horizon Zero Dawn 2022 | Master Machine Hunting Guide 

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Welcome to my Horizon Zero Dawn Master Machine Hunting series in 2022! In this episode we'll learn the best way to kill Fireclaws. With the HZD sequel Forbidden West coming out soon, I know there's going to be a lot of people re-playing Zero Dawn or playing it for the first time. In this series, we're going to cover the most effective tactics for taking down all the toughest machines in the game. If you want to learn how to take down every machine and become a master machine hunter, this is the series for you!
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⏱️Video Chapters⏱️
0:00 - Intro
0:22 - Fireclaw Overview
1:28 - Strategy & Gear
5:41 - Outfit & Skills
6:15 - Live Combat
9:27 - Summary
9:55 - Extra Tips
11:17 - Wrapping Up
HZD Interactive Map: mapgenie.io/horizon-zero-dawn
Music Credit: Landscape by Jarico ( / landscape )
For all my PC nerds out there, here's the specs:
CPU: i7-9700k (OC at 5.2GHz all core)
GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 SC Gaming (Core OC: 2075MHz, Mem OC: 5275MHz)
RAM: 16GB G.Skill TridentZ 3866MHz CL16
MB: Asus Z390-F Gaming
SSD: Samsung 970 EVO Plus 512GB
Monitor: Dell S2417DG 165Hz
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@furiousstyles08
@furiousstyles08 2 года назад
This was worth the wait. I think I'll try your surgical approach over my previous "shoot the machine till it dies while you burn through your medicine" tactic.
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial 2 года назад
Haha yes! It’s definitely easy to burn through all your healing with a Fireclaw! Pun intended :)
@anti-ethniccleansing465
@anti-ethniccleansing465 Год назад
@@ArktixOfficial THANK YOU SOOO MUCH for not spoiling the game! I appreciate that you held back on saying what the final boss is that has more HP than the fireclaw. P.S. I had no idea you could preload double/triple arrows! That’s a nifty little hidden mechanic tip. :) Also, are you playing on PC with a keyboard and mouse? Because your aim is freakin’ surgical. Also, do the fireclaws around the Cut have the same HP and difficulty as the first one we were introduced to as a boss in the cauldron? Or is that one buffed? Just curious.
@cutora07
@cutora07 Год назад
@@anti-ethniccleansing465 this is a response from 5 months later but I think the hp goes higher up depending on ur difficulty
@anti-ethniccleansing465
@anti-ethniccleansing465 Год назад
@@cutora07 That wasn’t my question though. Lol.
@ShadeSlayer1911
@ShadeSlayer1911 10 месяцев назад
That is also my approach typically.
@paristeta5483
@paristeta5483 2 года назад
Finally, a helpful video, not the "NG++++ super mods how to kill in 3 seconds stuff". Was really helpful as a new player, thank you! I really liked, that the meat of the video is already delivered in less then two minutes (good structure) and if more explanation is needed, the rest of the video delivers with the narration of the actual combat.
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial 2 года назад
I’m glad you found it helpful! Yes, that’s definitely my goal with these machine hunting guides. I also found it really annoying as a new player to see all these videos of people with maxed out stats taking down machines super fast. Like you said, they’re just not helpful. Thanks for letting me know you think this structure is good!
@rajkumar_gr
@rajkumar_gr 2 месяца назад
Totally enjoyed the series 😅 loved it ❤ Thank you for your time and effort putting this together!
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial 2 месяца назад
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the game!
@IlyaVassilevsky
@IlyaVassilevsky 2 года назад
I have completed the main story of Zero Dawn yesterday. Thanks to these educational videos. Thank you very much. The game is a masterpiece.
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
Awesome! Glad my videos helped you =) And yes, I agree Horizon is amazing =D
@MegaChickenfish
@MegaChickenfish Год назад
These were literal lifesavers. As fun as it was to have my strategy of loading up the fighting arena from stealth with an obscene amount of tripwires, traps, and proximity bombs (you are the fly, I am the spider, cauldron thunderjaw!) that strategy doesn't work if I'm in those hunter trials where time is so critical, and these endgame DLC monsters in particular just have *so much health* that when trying to brute force them with blast wires, which will kill or stun smaller enemies, _they'll gleefully barrel through six of them to continue right on with killing you._
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
Hey thanks! Glad to hear you found these helpful 😁 Lol yes, the big boi machines are no joke.
@cheerfulBeauty91
@cheerfulBeauty91 Год назад
Thank you so much! It was about to scream with frustration over the fire claw. But with your approach, I finished it off in one go with a lot less pain and suffering
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
Awesome! Good work 👍 They’re really tough! Glad you found this helpful 😁
@kristit4047
@kristit4047 Год назад
Horizon ZD is the very first PS game (honestly, the very first and thus far the only video game) I have ever owned and played. Because of my lack of experience, the beginning was rather challenging for me but I quickly realized that this game is brilliant and beautiful and I fell deeply in love with it and gaming in general. This being said, I would like to thank you so much for making these tutorials, they really have helped me along the way to understand the game and the machines better. I love your way of explaining things, all your tutorials have been very clear, straight to the point and very professional - you truly have a talent for this! I can't wait to get started with Horizon FW (and meanwhile I hope I don't spoil the whole game to myself, as I am tempted to watch all your videos about it :)).
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
Hi! Thanks so much for your comment! I’m glad to hear your enjoying Zero Dawn and my videos are helping you 😄 When you get to Forbidden West I’ll have a big library of content waiting for you 😁 Thanks for your support!
@anti-ethniccleansing465
@anti-ethniccleansing465 Год назад
How old are you Kristi? This game is really your first video game ever? Or it’s simply your first PS game?
@kristit4047
@kristit4047 Год назад
@@anti-ethniccleansing465 25, but I never got around to playing until my bf gifted this game to me for Christmas :) Before ZD I had played assassin's creed on PC for like 2 hours when i was around 13 or so but otherwise I had completely lived under the rock 😁
@anti-ethniccleansing465
@anti-ethniccleansing465 Год назад
@@kristit4047 Oh wow! I can’t imagine that. I’ve been playing videos games since I was a kid with Atari and Nintendo in the 80s! Haha.
@Peter8831
@Peter8831 Год назад
Alright, best Machine fighting series I've seen! Thanks @Arktix. Super helpful! Incredibly informative, educational, and implementable! I've seen various other machine hunting series, most are pretty mediocre. A couple are pretty good, but yours are the best, hands down!
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
Hey thanks a lot! Glad you like it 😄 Thanks for your comment. I appreciate it 🙏👍
@anik1860
@anik1860 10 месяцев назад
NGL , the one FireClaw that comes inside the cauldron is a nightmare!! Limited space to manoeuvre with the fireclaw performing all its attack tricks , took me almost 40 tries and exhausted all my resources killing it
@Thrashman138
@Thrashman138 10 месяцев назад
It's cheap as hell. The least fair, least fun fight in the entire game. It's like Guerilla didn't even play test this fight.
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial 10 месяцев назад
Lol yeah that's a really tough one!
@Torch4Life
@Torch4Life Год назад
Great work Arktix, thank you. First I've seen your work as it sure took forever to get my paws on a ps5 at msrp, better late than never & again, great work you did here, thanks.
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
Thank you! Congrats on getting your PS5 🥳 Hope you’re enjoying playing Horizon on it!
@monkeytron5061
@monkeytron5061 Год назад
Ok, that was some fine ass play man! Just about to take on one of these in the volcano cauldron. I so wish I knew I had an ice rail in a treasure box so I could have up graded it first but hey, we are where we are lol.
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
Thanks! Good luck with the cauldron! I hope you can use some of these tips 👍
@min-alexliang4684
@min-alexliang4684 2 года назад
SUPER useful tips as always!!!
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial 2 года назад
@Min-Alex Liang Thanks! I'm glad you think so!
@Lyza0327
@Lyza0327 Год назад
I just started playing Frozen wilds again since it’s been a long time. I was having a hard time defeating these fire claws. I loved all the tips you gave and it was very helpful. I had to kill 5 of them for a quest. Thanks so much for video I appreciate it and I subbed. Have an awesome day kind sir 👍🏼🤗😁
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
Hey thanks! Glad to hear you found this helpful 😄 Fireclaws are tough! And I appreciate your sub! 🙂
@Air0Sparks
@Air0Sparks Год назад
It took me almost three hundred times to beat sigrun…. The fact that I have to kill five now is exactly how I ended up here. Thanks for this video!
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
Lol Sigrun is tough! Hope this video helped you beat those Fireclaws!
@Sharkie504
@Sharkie504 Год назад
Started playing horizon. Zero Dawn again after finishing forbidden West. Can't tell you how happy I am to see that you got zero dawn videos too!
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
Cool! Yeah this was my first series 😄 Hope you're enjoying Zero Dawn!
@dancerrachel162
@dancerrachel162 Год назад
So glad I found this! You saved my bacon in the epsilon cauldron with just the shadow war bow and the carja sharpshot bow cuz I was a dummy and didn’t buy any fancy new weapons just played the game. Super awesome video!!!
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
Awesome! Glad you found this helpful 😄 That cauldron is tough!
@krzysztofprzybylski2750
@krzysztofprzybylski2750 2 года назад
Excellent video! Can't wait to watch your take on how to farm Fireclaw webbing sacs in HFW
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial 2 года назад
Thanks! That’s the next one coming in my HFW machine hunting series!
@spforevr11
@spforevr11 2 года назад
@@ArktixOfficial Thanks! Really struggling with them on NG+ ultra hard. Most of its attacks are one shot if landed, and we need the sacs intact so I feel like I'm hitting my head against a wall.
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
Just posted my HFW Fireclaw guide! Hope it helps you!
@shamal2351
@shamal2351 Год назад
Hi Arktik, I love your contant, keep up thr amazing job!. Are you speedrunning the game? or do lore videos?
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
Hey thanks! I’m not particularly into speed running, but I do follow that community a bit since they come up with some useful tips for general play too. I do like the lore, but I haven’t done videos on it. Maybe I should at some point.
@MsGoldberga
@MsGoldberga 2 года назад
Fantastic Video 😍
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial 2 года назад
Thank you! I’m glad you think so!
@Gummy2741
@Gummy2741 2 года назад
OmFG u make it look so easy... 😆
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
Lol thanks =D Lots of practice...lol
@shhh_m_watching
@shhh_m_watching Год назад
This video redeemed The Frozen Wilds for me. I used to brute force these things with bombs. While successful after multiple frustrating attempts then, it was a very expensive ordeal. Thank you! I have a very different view of TFW now.
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
Hey thanks Marc! Glad you were able to pick up some tips from this 😄 Yeah it’s not obvious how to approach Fire and Frostclaws, but they do have their weaknesses!
@areathex4086
@areathex4086 Год назад
This is amazing. I just tried this strategy on the Very Hard difficulty and instead of the war and shadow bows, I used the Banuk ones and it SHREDDED.
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
Nice! Good job 👍 Oh yeah totally use the Banuk bows if you have them!
@achyutpsd
@achyutpsd 2 года назад
Good work
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial 2 года назад
Thanks!
@isaacgrier8679
@isaacgrier8679 Год назад
This guide made a huge difference for me.
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
Awesome! Glad this helped you out 😄
@OssLess.FreePS
@OssLess.FreePS 2 месяца назад
thx alot
@abelingaw5070
@abelingaw5070 Год назад
Icerail's cannon can also hit those spots with higher damage, but of course. even with 3 50+ handling mods, its still load slow. And yeah it needs a good aim too. However, chillwater is just so expensive.
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
Yes! The icerail is a lot of fun to use, but yeah, the ammo is really expensive.
@theoldhenk7531
@theoldhenk7531 7 месяцев назад
Helpful video, especially re: initial shock arrows. That said, even with all three Banuck bows, I don't do nearly as much triple shot damage as you, and it still takes forever to freeze Fireclaws, even with three freeze mods on the bow. My hardpoint arrows are useless as well. Can you discuss how you're modding the bows, as that must be responsible for the difference.
@PluslePlayzYT
@PluslePlayzYT 2 года назад
This was a really good and in-depth strategy! Just wanted to let ya know that the part where your talking about the fireclaw is labeled “Bellowback overview”
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial 2 года назад
Oh man. Thank you! I was editing that pretty late last night. I must have forgotten to change the time stamp. I’ll fix it. Thanks a lot for pointing that out!
@PluslePlayzYT
@PluslePlayzYT 2 года назад
@@ArktixOfficial It’s no problem!
@PluslePlayzYT
@PluslePlayzYT 2 года назад
@@ArktixOfficial Oh I actually wanted to ask you if it would be ok for me to post about you to tell people to check you out?
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial 2 года назад
Well no…actually I don’t want anymore more subscribers. You seem really cool and as my most recent sub I’d like to end on a high note. I’m kidding! Of course you can and I’d really appreciate it! That’s very kind of you. Were you thinking like on Reddit or something?
@PluslePlayzYT
@PluslePlayzYT 2 года назад
@@ArktixOfficial I was actually thinking about doing it on Twitter!
@LordCorvius
@LordCorvius 6 месяцев назад
I just went through the last cauldron and am working on hunting down the escaped fireclaws now! But right before I started that quest I tried to override a thunderjaw the wrong way, which ended in being stepped on hahaha because it basically tripped on me for trying to sneak up behind it and I didn't think it was about to turn around!
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial 6 месяцев назад
Haha oh no! I’ve done that a few times myself 😅 Hope you find these tips helpful for the Fireclaws!
@exoticmayhem8014
@exoticmayhem8014 2 года назад
Im glad the fireclaw comes back in HFW
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial 2 года назад
Me too! It will be interesting to see if the returning machines fight differently. I hope so!
@Archikbo
@Archikbo 9 месяцев назад
I have the upgraded ice rail but I don't know how much chillwater and shards to bring, I don't want to run out of ammo mid fight, how much should I bring
@action24061974
@action24061974 Год назад
I wished you did the one on the cauldron. That one is hard.
@odionas999
@odionas999 4 месяца назад
i was trying exploding wire but dot get alot dmg. are u was trying traps?
@dartharrow1229
@dartharrow1229 7 месяцев назад
What's your opinion on using Banuk bows with the overdraw mechanism against Shadow bows where you can fire almost without drawing?
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial 7 месяцев назад
Good questions. Personally, I like the Banuk bows, but if you tend to loose shots early, then the Shadow gear is better. Like you say, you can fire them faster for full damage.
@AngeloMiguel24712
@AngeloMiguel24712 Год назад
im stuck on the Final boss of the Frozen wilds in ultra hard new game plus :S this is going to help
@desel8737
@desel8737 8 месяцев назад
just watched a basic fireclaw (thanks to 3 corruption arrows) killing 3 trampler, 1 demonic scorcher (2nd one ran off with its last 15% health) and a demonic scrapper. the beast had still about 35% hp left
@Sharp931
@Sharp931 Год назад
My sorry ass tried to burn Fireclaws in the cauldron... That part was so hard, even FromSoftware would be proud of it.
@theyungpotato9762
@theyungpotato9762 2 года назад
Can you do Videos of your walkthrough in forbidden west because i realy like your Videos, much love from germany
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial 2 года назад
Thank you! So you’d like to see my un-edited playthrough? I don’t think I’ll be able to edit walkthrough videos to be as engaging as these guides 😅 Walkthrough’s would basically just be raw gameplay, but I can totally do that if you’re interested!
@theyungpotato9762
@theyungpotato9762 2 года назад
@@ArktixOfficial yeah I mean a raw ,sorry my English is realy trash😂
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial 2 года назад
No you’re english is very good. It’s 1000x better then my german anyway :) I just wanted to see if you meant something edited like quest guides. I’ll see if I can work in walkthrough videos with all the other videos I have planned. Thank you for the suggestion!
@tungpham409
@tungpham409 2 месяца назад
Why have I completed the dlc story & firelaw still don't return to normal, it's still purple?
@nicolasribeiro7146
@nicolasribeiro7146 Год назад
I would like to see Trampler, Ravenger and Snapmaw here in this Series
@Tryingcounts
@Tryingcounts Год назад
Not the best video that comment this on but this was randomly recommended. A) was an ice cream van in the background when you recorded :D? B) I hate having to get the webbing from these in FW :'(
@annmd1735
@annmd1735 9 месяцев назад
Wy don't you use Tear to get the armor off... I do this to get machines ready for hits that will cause an explosion... I appreciate this video, but I'll probably do a tear volley... hopefully I can get it all in...
@Ryzza5
@Ryzza5 6 месяцев назад
I just stand behind a tree which blocks most of its attacks while unloading the shockslinger on it.
@rubysmith765
@rubysmith765 4 месяца назад
“What are you buying silks?” Why yes random person in meridian I am just they aren’t here 🤣
@feitopuns
@feitopuns 10 дней назад
I alwats use Modified rope caster to take him down before freezing
@ChiefADFP
@ChiefADFP Год назад
can't find any fireclaws mobs at all?
@MushuaThePotato
@MushuaThePotato 4 месяца назад
In my opinion fireclaws are far harder in zero dawn because you can’t do 10k damage with every shot like you can in forbidden west, both are challenging of course but my way to take them down was rope caster, freeze, eye shot and if you are quick you can hit a power cell and do it again and it was an inf loop
@opratorkilo4649
@opratorkilo4649 Год назад
its been hard for me to quantify this but whats your opinion on the aggression of the fireclaws in HZD vs HFW. idk what it is but ive always felt that even excluding the different loadouts that the daemonic fireclaw was harder than its counter part the apex fireclaw in hzd. Numbers wise i think the apex is still tougher but i just think the HZD fireclaws were more quick, unpredictable, and relentless with their attacks than their brothers in HFW. Id love to hear if anyone else can back me up on this but i swear ive had and continue to have more trouble with the Og fireclaws than the new one in forbidden west.
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
Interesting question. Well first, I would say they the ZD and FW Fireclaws are not as different as some other machines, like the ZD and FW Thunderjaws. The FW Tjaws are way harder. As for Fireclaws, I think the new one is a little tougher actually, simply because it's HP is higher and I think it's attacks can do quite a bit more damage, especially the Apex. However, a corrupted Fireclaw in ZD was no joke either!
@opratorkilo4649
@opratorkilo4649 Год назад
@@ArktixOfficial thats kinda what i was talking about on paper the fireclaws in FW are tougher and hit harder but idk during fights it seems like they give you more breathing room between their attacks than they ever did in the first game. When they were first introduced it just felt like i was doing more to keep myself breathing than worrying about damage. But in FW the fireclaws take way more time to recover after attacks and do weird pauses outta the blue to imo give players time to recuperate and counter attack when the og model never afforded anyone thats luxury. Just notice h
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
Yeah I’d agree with you on that. I think they made them a little less aggressive in FW.
@jacobgeorge6754
@jacobgeorge6754 Год назад
canyou guys tell me how to upgrade bows to yellow color or make it stronger ? even the electric gun i see you have purple color i have blue can u epline to me how to upgrade
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
So you don’t upgrade weapons to different rarities in Horizon. To get a different color/higher rarity bow, you need to buy it from a merchant.
@notdejavu8421
@notdejavu8421 Год назад
The first time i fought a fireclaw took me 30 minutes or more. I was lvl 56.
@Thrashman138
@Thrashman138 10 месяцев назад
The Elite version of this is the cheapest, least satisfying fight in the entire game.
@LastBastian
@LastBastian 10 месяцев назад
I'm level 60. Fully decked out. Playing on normal. I'm at the part where you fight two of these... And I'm getting annihilated. 😢
@LastBastian
@LastBastian 10 месяцев назад
I've got the best gear in the game, and I can't freeze one of these at all. It simply doesn't work. Nothing really seems to work, other than keep moving, and throw everything you've got at them over and over and over and hope for the best. 🤷‍♂️
@LastBastian
@LastBastian 10 месяцев назад
So, after fighting these things for about an hour and a half, I've learned that shock weapons are useless. Freeze weapons are useless. Get your shield-weaver armor on. Have your 12 full health potions ready, make sure you have *LOTS* of ingredients for explosives, and sticky bomb these guys over and over and over while always moving sideways and jumping for slow-mo. You'll have to reload about a dozen times, but after trying everything I could think of, and dying a dozen times... This was the *only* thing that worked for me.
@Thrashman138
@Thrashman138 10 месяцев назад
Spamming bombs is the only thing that works reliably. I swear Guerilla did not play test this enemy at all.
@shaknbakejake
@shaknbakejake Год назад
Can you make a survival guide for either game? Pls
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
Sorry, but I'm not quite sure what you mean by a "survival guide"
@shaknbakejake
@shaknbakejake Год назад
@@ArktixOfficial Sorry I don't know why I said survival guide, I meant like how to be prepared for bandit camps etc. or a guide for crafting items and trading.
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
Oh I see. I'm not sure how popular of a video that would be. If you need help with things like that I'd recommend joining my discord server, which is linked in all my video descriptions.
@phantommaggotxxx
@phantommaggotxxx Год назад
why not use a ropecaster to put it down so you can freeze it tho?
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
You certainly can! I just don’t personally like using ropecasters much and I wanted to show how to do it without a ropecaster since a lot of players wouldn’t have the lodge one.
@v3tuesdays2
@v3tuesdays2 Год назад
Some areas have other machines with the fireclaws ugh
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
Ah yeah those are pretty tough!
@link.6757
@link.6757 Год назад
Why not use a ropecaster to keep the fireclaw in place?
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
You certainly can! I just tend to not use a ropecaster much myself.
@link.6757
@link.6757 Год назад
@@ArktixOfficial ah that makes sense 😂 I was curious if there was reasoning behind it since it takes like 10 ropes to tie it. Thank you!
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
Yeah that's pretty much why I don't like using them. Too many ropes only for the FC to get free when you damage it.
@rainiertolentino401
@rainiertolentino401 Год назад
I was raging when I first fought this machine in the caldera. My thoughts back then was that the developer is a fcking sadist. All I did was dodge, roll, heal, shoot.
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
Oh yeah totally. That first Fireclaw is really tough!
@alongj8512
@alongj8512 Год назад
freeze + rattler
@MetalGod-id8st
@MetalGod-id8st 10 месяцев назад
Scorchers were more annoying
@jesustorres5862
@jesustorres5862 Год назад
It looks easy when u do it😭
@ArktixOfficial
@ArktixOfficial Год назад
Haha well that's after a lot of practice! I hope these tips were helpful 👍
@jasonashley9853
@jasonashley9853 4 месяца назад
I really dont understand why Gorilla insists on theowing the kitchen sink at you. For all the things that are great about these games, they pad them out way too much. It takes way too much time to level and upgrade gear.