How to Kill Your Game : Enlisted 

Damn this is perfect!

The thing Gaijin forgot is the fact that this is an FPS, there are no good alternatives to War Thunder but there are HUNDREDS of good/better FPS alternatives out there

Red Orchestra 2: Less content but is a far superior experience. That involves communication and tactical value while having fun.

God it warms my heart to see that enlisted has the exact same jittery tank “feature” as war thunder. Truly a gaijin moment.

It's been a long two years of Enlisted for me, and much of it has been spent complaining about these issues and oftentimes worrying my own experiences in project management are wrong in some way. This video helps soothe a lot of those of those worries, and definitely makes me personally feel a lot better. So thank you for that and thank you for making the video

2:30 The second they start charging for in game items it's no longer in beta that's their release I don't care about any argument otherwise.

I have tried this game but after 2 weeks, I just quit. It’s not worth it. Yes it’s easy to play, and you can immediately play and have some fun. But the reason is because of the lack of players and the number of bots.

7:10 - The having bots pretend to be real players seems to be a uniquely Russian/Eastern Europe developer trend.

What always amazes me is there are solo dev games and literally shooters in roblox that have better gunplay and animations. I played since the alpha and the core gameplay has not improved one bit

I stopped playing after stalingrad. Glad I did.

I've been banned for many ridiculous reasons in the past (mostly being accused of cheating), but I can only dream one of them being sowing dissent. That's absolutely hilarious.

I love masochism. I'm just happy I haven't spent a dime on this and try not to focus on the grind to an item, just the experience. I'm still angry though.

Yeah, this is about how my Enlisted experience went. It was fun running around and finding places to hide with bolt action rifles, especially on that eastern front(?) map with the big bombed-out church, but the grind for better stuff and the fact I kept getting mowed down by people who had better SMG squads really took the fun out of it. I don't think I ever won a round on any front either.

Best. Intro. Ever! Not even a fan, just randomly clicked. Legit had me chuckling. 🙏🏻 Imma finish the vid now.

And this is recommended today again.

This video should go viral. Very good.

Enlisted is a prime Example of many good Ideas executed in the worst way possible. The Campaigns were nice and a new idea in the Shooter Genre, but their execution of them were lackluster. Then, the Merge. All they had to do was keep the campaigns but make weapon-progression overlapping, with weapons being available in their respective theatres. Heck, there's a Minecraft Shooter called Call to battle where that's a thing. All Nations have one progression for each player, but you can only use, for example an StG-44 in 1944 theatres. Darkflow apparently can come up with that but rather just made Warthunder 2.0 but with Infantry. Power Creep is also an Issue. While I find it neat to see less Tanks less popular in other WWII Shooters, but Tiger IIs, Super-Pershings, that's just too much. On a personal note, Darkflow actively refusing to accurately model Guns (like the MG-42 having an RoF of 990 rpm at best). It's just sad to see what possibilites Darkflow keeps to throw away for no apparent reason other than prioritizing content that makes money

I played one match of this game and immediately noticed the bot issue and then promptly uninstalled. Any game that I install and has bots in the first match I play isn't something I want to waste my time on.

Tbh, most of this shit monetization policies are not DF's fault, but Gaijin and I have info to prove that 1° Darkflow is a small studio, VERY small (for what I've been told I assume not more than 30 workers, not devs, workers (that including not dev positions like Community manager or forum mods) Afaik, Darkflow doesn't gain too much money with Enlisted (tbh, that was expected) and Gaijin takes a lot of that money, probably only letting the necessary funding just to maintain DF barely afloat. Also Gaijin basically gave Darkflow the engine to create Enlisted and barely invested resources or manpower at all, the snail only comes to the table to make a new monetization scheme to gain some extra bucks Basically Gaijin is Using Darkflow as a meat shield, they act in the shadows trying to gain every dollar possible and let Darkflow eat all the hate Darkflow also has serious problems on Its own They are stubborn af, basically if they are not forced to change something they don't want, even if that change will have a positive outcome for the Game, They'll not do It Most likely an incompetent leadership and if not rookie, not a very veteran dev team (if I learnt something of game design is if this kind of shitstorm happens, devs will run away to other companies on masse (remember what happened with the devs teams of Battlefield 2042 and Skull and Bones just to name a few)) Edit: just fixing some typos

found a recommendation to this video on reddit. I super love this game except when I don't, and when I don't its actually miserable. Most of my pain comes from the fact that 75% of my team has less than 20 kills

Imagine designing your game around bots because you know nobody would ever want to play it.

Ditto. I'm a war thunder vet and I fucking hate it. Enlisted was too much, I liked it for a while but yeah.. What a quagmire

The snail does what the snail does. That is simply its nature.

It's funny to see this recommended to me so long after being made, and everything you said is still true, even after the vaunted "merge". Every Gaijin veteran could tell you the merge was just a way to increase grind and monetisation.

gaijin never listens to their community *unless* the negative backlash affects their bottom line. Have seen it for years with WarThunder already.

Regarding the bots: I once won a match of normandy with 265 kills and 0 deaths. Fuck this game.

I really liked how the rifles one-shot in Enlisted right from the beginning, it felt satisfying to actually feel like my shots were deadly, while not feeling super annoying because you have like 4 other squad members to switch to at any point if you do get hit. But yeah, it did feel like there were a bunch of problems that were never fixed, some of them even got worse!

I absolutely love how much WT players complain about enlisted while they play the exactly same game but without infantry and with larger tech trees

the intro to this video was amazing!

Thanks for this video! It age really well even after the post merge!

Started playing a few days ago on xbox series x. Promptly stopped after multiple failed hit detections. I’m talking like 2 foot from an enemy blasting them with a submachine gun and no hits somehow, all whilst enemies able to snipe me across the map, through solid objects like buildings sometimes. All of this in conjunction with the severely heavy monetization and grind. The gameplay feels janky and off, having terrible AI probably the main reason why. The game is absolutely not complete and I do not recommend playing unless you just love Gaijin games or war games that you can overlook the impressive amount of flaws.

Given your views on the game being in beta, I'm curious what you have to say about Star Citizen; it's been in alpha for about a decade now, entry level cost to play the game (sorry, "test the alpha") is $45, but they are selling ships and packages that are in the *thousands* of dollars.

This was a real filmento ass intro. Loved it!

amazing video with great points!

Please be next War Thunder. It would be so fucking funny.

i actually really liked stalingrad when it released, yeah it sucked that you had to pay like 20$ to access the campaign but it wasn’t littered with premiums at the time and it also gave you some early features like soldier customization. i will admit though that there wasn’t lots of unique levels to unlock which made it boring and easy to burn out on.

I quit this game a bit after stalingrad and gave it a second chance when the pacific came out then quit again a day or 2 later haven't touched the game since

I tried the game a while back, two years ago maybe. It was very clear that almost nobody was playing it and the match was just filled with fake bot players. I mowed down hordes and hordes of squad npc:s and fake players, there was no difficulty, the chat was dead, a completely braindead experience.

since the new progression tree and stuff is announced now how do you think that will affect the game do you think the game will die im asking this before i put some serious time in to the game pls help

I loved playing enlisted on the ps4 like a year ago but when i tried playing it on my pc the anti cheat just kept kicking me from matches, and the forum couldn't provide a good answer. I was able to play warthunder perfectly fine and they have the same anti cheat.

Wanna know the only reason I was reminded this game exists? Because big fry mentioned it taking a day before it was removed from steam.

Enlisted used to be a insane game to play, I used to love it. I came back to it recently and it just wasn't fun with BR's

Giga like! In the last two years I try 3 times this game, after 1-2 month I delete. Now I'm in 4th " circle". Maybe, I'd like to add.... The match making directly makes losing streaks: This is not paranoia or a conspiracy theory. I played many times with WOT, where the MM works similarly to Enlisted. New account get a lot of success, after you've grinded for something, the free game submits the bill. The main source of income for free to play games is your frustration, and this is achieved through losing streaks. I personally consider this a bad business policy. The brain dead game play support, a.k.a. this is not a "first person shooter": I don't particularly like tanks and planes. I'm a first person shooter, I don't hide behind armor or throw bombs. I will not "twitch" like an autistic with the an endless supply machine gun or the flamethrower. But this game supports the brain dead, zero skills attitude. "Well tamed", ex War Thunder players, who pay the price: Yep.... Beta game, but rest assured, a lot of money has already flowed in. Too many. I was in a "bigger" enlisted community, here too there is a "thick" layer of people who have already paid (and will) pay the price of a broken, old car. The only problem with this is that it won't make Dark Flow to change. I can only say what many people said two years ago. "This is a game with great potential...." But in my mind the Morgen Freeman narrator says, "it will never be good...."

I've tried to get into enlisted but i just cant. The game feels janky and the aiming is really weird. And like you said the game is very p2w the grind feels worse than war thunder. I've made it to lvl 10 and it just feels like slog i dont even know how they still have people paying money for it.

I tried this game once. The idea seemed really cool. I thought it was would be like a FPS Bannerlord in WWII. Then I found out the bots suck, and it is literally Warthunder where you have to buy or grind to be even remotely competitive. There’s nothing wrong with having cool stuff to unlock in a game, but the game shouldn’t be basically unplayable if you don’t have it, or someone else does and now you lose because they paid money for it.

It’s wild when I would rather play Battlefield V than this

That into had me rolling

I thought if I should try this game, and now I won't. Thank you, mate!

I suck at the game, but what i do to still enjoy it is just run a sniper build, fuck off to some high spot, and just get like 30+ kills per round while accomplishing basically nothing worthwhile for my time. However, its a video game, and theyre all about having fun, which i do

Excellent video, said it how it needed to be said. This game has taken far too long to have such little meaningless content thrown into it.

I used to love playing this game pre merge but once they did the merge and took away the option to pick campaigns I was done

You can even still actully find fun in warthunder The grind has probobly been halved after the reccent econemy changes Took me barly 3 days to get the m60 patton

The most anoiing thing i encounterd is the grid or when shots dont deal dmg/go somewhere i didnt aim at because the new gun i bought also needs grinding to hit. With that a bold action made me hit more often then an autoload rifle in singel shot 😂

a moment of silence for heroes & generals please

Raising prices only to lower them for a sale is illegal in most, but not all, US states as well. Pretty much goes unenforced everywhere except California though

I agree with all of the points made in this video, however, now with the Roadmap I am much more confident in the game, especialy if it releases on Steam it will definetly get a surge of players and the new branch system will make "grinding" waaay less cumbersome. I play the game for free so cant really be mad but if you pay for things in the game you should probably be mad about how unfixed it is.

This describes the game perfectly, good video.

this is like the combination of mobile games trends and Russian 2010 browser games trends

It's interesting how Enlisted basically inherited very similar problems to Heroes & Generals, especially the lack of players, lack of a capable bot AI, some abhorrent unlocking systems and the top tiers (usually premium) decimating people because of a lack of a good way to effectively counter bigger vehicles.

How do u only have 28 subscribers 😮

oh if only you knew what was coming with tarkov.

funniest thing is i got an enlisted ad for this video hahaha

I stopped playing War Thunder 5 years ago, and the moment I saw Gaijin involved in this I knew not to touch it with a 122 mile long pole.

If anyone wants an actual good enlisted type games with main thing being infantry there is easy red 2 The planes and tanks aren’t at all as good in the devs defense gajijn Use the copy, pasted assets, and flight models and already based enlisted off of war thunders game engine which is older il2 engine meant for these vehicles

Basically try to turn enlisted into warthunder that's what turned me away from it I was gonna try it but i opened it and saw how much I'd need to grind for a little bit of fun and was like nope I already have over 1000 hours on warthunder

Intro movie?

Crazy

Among all of these issues, i still think the game is super fun and have put so many hours into it

After they botched the steam Linux thing I've just given up. I saw the price for a FREE game and just cut ties with that. Ashame too, enlisted was fun for what it was.

In my opinion, in a comparison between warthunder and Enlisted (I've got 1500 hours in warthunder and about 200 in elisted) is that in warthunder, if you don't like playing ships (nobody wants to play naval) you can just not, you don't need to play it to unlock a tank or unlock a plane and you can do whatever the hell you want. the only game mode that relies oin another one is ground and you can just play something like an SPAA or your own plane. The developers of warthunder are absolutely greedy and insane but there's counters, you can just pick to play something else inside the game. They also consistantly engage with the community with things like thundershow and dev QandAs (even though those are so fucking rigged). as a final statement: Gaijin hates italy ;-;

all time high "240" yeah it was never alive to begin with

Me and everyone I played with stopped playing when the campaigns got merged and the tech tree was released. Completely ruined ay sense of progression and we could have fun doing what we wanted, having to souly rely on luck of a match we wanted.

I hope WarThunder doesn’t have the same fate

Sad that dark flow messed up enlisted on steam since enlisted is a great game

I think you should also mention that you’re a project manager

That star wars clip was perfect 🤣

10:49 crazy how it even applies to this very video.

I hope a different developer takes the ideas that Enlisted created and puts them in their own game

thats what im fucken talking about man good job

The game is a lot worse now and they tried to put enlisted on steam for 20$ idk how they managed to fail the release of a free game good thing i stoped enlisted

I miss heroes and generals guys

6:58 but for my fps play style aside from hell let loose enlisted is the ONLY game playable on the market

stop playing and they will either listen or burn

I've tried it before and thought the bots were normal 😂

Never played it i was thinking aout getting the game but idk

I could see that from the day the game came out, anything Gaijin touches dies.

And here I thought Heroes and Generals was THE prime example of how to kill an otherwise promising f2p fps with too much grind and ingame purchases. But compared to enlisted, that game is almost fair to the players.

One thing that baffles me is how Darkflow thought they'd make it by monetizing the game even worse than what Gaijin does with War Thunder This all is still valid a year after. Fucking great

I'd consider playing it if they actually did anything interesting with the squad leading feature instead of bots being just extra lives

What an opening

The bugs don’t seam to happen often on Xbox

Liked enlisted for awhile, got discouraged after seeing how much I'm missing out without spending money

Who is Darkflow? I thought that enlisted was made by the same creators of war thunder aka Gaijin Entertainment.

3:22 this is common in War Thunder

this game basically did everything possible to kill itself I regret spending money in it

"Oh, I thought Enlisted was doing really well, why is it-" ***"GAIJIN is treating it like..."*** "Oh..."

Bruh, I am in that discord chat panel... yes I am Nelson, and the mute for me is 30 day to infinitely currently lmao

same

I swear to god there was a cheater with Ak101, in bolt action combat, our team literally spawn camped by that player whole match, people say im lying and shit, they say there is a gun that look like ak but thats not ak etc, i fucking know an AK when i see one, it was ak101 in bolt action combat game mode. Never played again

EDGING?!