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How to level sagging floor in old house using shims, not floor leveler, in home renovation 

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Renovating an old house inevitably comes with sagging floors to some degree. This time we were faced with 2nd story floors which were out of level. In an effort to add as little weight as possible to the aging floor joists, we choose not to use floor leveler (which is essentially concrete).
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Rather than using heavy floor leveler, we opted for use of shims to raise the low spots and create a new level surface. When you can't raise sagging floors from underneath, as in this instance, without damaging the ceiling below, the next best option is to create a new level surface from above.
The process is straight forward. We found the highest spots in the room and placed one end of a 6 foot level :
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on the high spot and the other end at a low spot. We then used shims (plywood pads) placed on the low spot till the 6 foot level bubble indicated level. Once a wider area was leveled, we could lay down the first sheet of 3/4 inch sub-floor.
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@Housebarons
@Housebarons 6 дней назад
We can not stress enough the VALUE of having a laser level when doing this kind of work (or even checking the condition of the floors )! If you are interested, check out the link : DEWALT Line Laser, Self-Leveling, Red, 3-Beam (DW089K) by Dewalt amzn.to/3xNbY3K It works well but this is NOT the most affordable version. We actually have 3 different brands and they ALL work great. If you are looking for more affordable options, check out the video description or our other floor leveling videos in the following playlist : ru-vid.com/group/PLExVGissIl-H-npOe7v64K2y6IIOQvHk6 Just FYI. These Amazon links are affiliate links. They are free for you to use AND Amazon will pay us a small commission if you use them - Many thanks if you do. It helps us keep making videos!
@JtotheRizzo
@JtotheRizzo 2 года назад
I did this exact same procedure in my 100+ yr old house. A few thought/suggestions if I may: 1. If you have asbestos, it should be removed prior to doing this. If you cover it up, someone else down the line may renovate this house and may end up ripping out the floor and unknowingly disturbing the asbestos. 2. ALWAYS GLUE AND SCREW. Don't use nails. 3. Try to use at least 5/8" thick plywood (3/4" is best) as your top subfloor to maximize strength and minimize bouncy spots. 4. To shim, pick up a few sheets of 1/4" Luan, 1/2", 3/8" and 5/8" plywood. For really bad floors, rip down 2x4 to get desired height. Also pick up wide roofing shims for precision leveling. 5. There should be no more than 8-10" between the shims to prevent that bouncy feeling in areas where the shims are too far apart. If you use 3/4" plywood for subfloor, you can get away with 12" apart.
@mimi101
@mimi101 2 года назад
How can you find out if you have asbestos? My house was built in 1920, records of the property are spotty...
@Graham94
@Graham94 Год назад
@@mimi101 It's actually not supposed to be a risk unless you work with it everyday in large amounts. The guy who did my survey told me and wasn't one bit bothered by it??
@mimi101
@mimi101 Год назад
@@Graham94 Oh good! Thanks Graham!
@lukewebb9692
@lukewebb9692 Год назад
You don't have to remove the asbestos because of the next person who will move in to it. And if they are worried they can get a proffessional team in to remove it. :)
@HumbuckerBob02
@HumbuckerBob02 Год назад
J R, This is great info! For my floor joist, I decided to go with RV shims that were hard wood and 4"x9" for my crawlspace work. this way I could rip down to what ever the situation required and help with any future rot. I'll be working the rest of the project from above and will be using your method. Appreciate your input!
@gregwood8141
@gregwood8141 6 месяцев назад
Great idea! Was just about to rip up my entire floor but I think you've saved me from a massive headache. Thanks from the UK
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 6 месяцев назад
Glad it helped! And thx for letting us know where you are DIYing 😃 - always interesting and appreciated! Cheers!
@synovia421
@synovia421 3 года назад
Great video. This is exactly what I thought I could do in my head. Nice to see a visual of it! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 3 года назад
Hey Synovia, Glad you found this helpful! I hope your project goes well - Thx for watching!
@mariaboice7958
@mariaboice7958 2 года назад
This video was just the solution I needed. I have a sloping cement floor we are renovating and putting in new carpet. Thank you so much, I really didn’t want to try self-leveling compound so this looks like a good option.
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 2 года назад
Hey Maria, Sounds good. Thx for watching!
@elvillian
@elvillian Год назад
OMG, this is response to my prayers. THANK YOU!!!!!
@Housebarons
@Housebarons Год назад
Hey Elena, Awesome. Hope it helps. Thx for watching!
@sozaito
@sozaito Месяц назад
I was planning to do this but started to doubt myself, so it's nice to see confirmation that it will work. You have no idea how you've eased my anxiety. Thank you!
@Housebarons
@Housebarons Месяц назад
Thx for watching!
@LostCannuckSailor
@LostCannuckSailor 3 года назад
This will be a huge help for me. I have a very wonky floor.
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 3 года назад
Hi Bri, awesome, hope this helps, let us know how it goes!
@cindywatkins35
@cindywatkins35 2 года назад
My sweetheart adjusted some posts under the floor in the crawl space and added some shims to level the floor. Then he used plywood over the subfloor. You need plywood not OSB if you are going to nail down hardwood. Then he nailed down reclaimed red oak with nails and a hammer which we had cleaned and removed nails and staples. Sweetheart then sanded it and used two coats of satin sealer. Beautiful oak floors now. They're fantastic. He did a wonderful job.
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 2 года назад
Hey Cindy, Perfect! Thx for watching!
@snaubdca7yebf
@snaubdca7yebf Год назад
you must be 90 years old calling your partner 'my sweetheart' without cringing
@heatherroydiy
@heatherroydiy 8 дней назад
I hope your husband reads this, how sweet you are and how you have praised him. I love how speak of your Sweetheart! My Hubby is about to do ours! Thank goodness for those awesome husbands.
@jesserosenbloom1311
@jesserosenbloom1311 Год назад
This video helped me more than any other Ive watched in last couple months. so much appreciated. Thought I was stuck with my sloped floors. will be attempting this today. Im going to put 3/4 cdx ply down as subfloor, then 1/2 backerboard and tile on top. feels like that should be strong enough. thank you again guys!
@Housebarons
@Housebarons Год назад
Hey Jesse, Nice - happy projecting! Thx for watching!
@brianluquis7578
@brianluquis7578 Год назад
I'd avoid the tile. Your floors are sloping for a reason. tile is fairly heavy and will most likely start sloping again in 5 years, cracking said tile. At worse, catastrophic floor failure where your carrier beam and strings literally snap. I realize your comment is 10 months old but just thought I'd offer my 2 cents. Best of luck
@dracula1980
@dracula1980 Год назад
I know right away this is quality job when I see oatmeal plywood being used.
@sedona3player
@sedona3player Год назад
I need to do this in my tiny upstairs converted attic eventually. It seemed daunting and I was estimating $50-100,000 to hire someone to do it (prices are crazy where I live). You made it seem way easier and maybe even possible to do it myself with my partner. Thank you.
@Housebarons
@Housebarons Год назад
Hey Sedona…, Great. Thx for watching!
@bestguy8100
@bestguy8100 10 месяцев назад
I leveled my uneven basement floor with OSB boards, shims and concrete screws. Your video was really helpful. Thank you very much.
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 10 месяцев назад
Hey best…, Way to go! Thx for watching!
@kashfortheking
@kashfortheking Год назад
This is a great idea. No way this would fail if the directions are followed. A+ for this one 👍🏾👍🏾
@Housebarons
@Housebarons Год назад
Hey Kash.., Glad you think so! Thx for watching!
@samjones3173
@samjones3173 Год назад
I'm just getting into the remodeling the whole deal and mainly you guys do tremendous good work and I'm just starting and I already made my 10,000 dollar Mark already just just from watching videos I'm doing jobs I thank you guys have a blessed day man
@Housebarons
@Housebarons Год назад
Awesome! Thank you! Keep up the good work!
@Liv2Pnt
@Liv2Pnt 2 года назад
Omg! I love you!! One of my upstairs bedrooms has a dip in the middle if the floor, and I've been trying to find ways to fix it without major upheaval. This is the best!
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 2 года назад
Hey Make…, Thanks so much! Hope it works for you and thx for watching!
@TK-setophaga
@TK-setophaga 3 года назад
Thanks. I used a laser level on the high spot an used the plywood spacers to fill gaps from 1/8 to 1 inch. Those LVP floors are very unforgiving so the subfloor is critical. Thanks for the idea.
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 3 года назад
Hey T K, Very good! Glad it worked for you. Thanks for watching!
@sincerely-b
@sincerely-b 8 месяцев назад
Been trying to redo the flooring in my house with lvp amd had to remove everything because the floor wasn't straight. Unforgiving is right. Going to straighten the whole floor out and relay.
@timothykentlawson9822
@timothykentlawson9822 2 года назад
I KNEW that there was a way to compensate for an unlevel floor. Thank you for sharing! 👍
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 2 года назад
Hey Timothy, Thx for watching!
@richrich685
@richrich685 3 года назад
This is a huge help for me as I get ready to redo the flooring in my kitchen. Thanks guys!
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 3 года назад
Hey Rich, Thx for watching!
@wassayali2341
@wassayali2341 Год назад
did you have to remove kitchen cabinet frames/appliances for this?
@SGB1977
@SGB1977 2 года назад
Thanks for the video. One of our bedrooms is like walking in a funhouse.
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 2 года назад
Hey DS, Thx for watching!
@vincentmonet6172
@vincentmonet6172 Год назад
Great solution. Cheers chaps. Now to sort my 1830 floor out!
@Housebarons
@Housebarons Год назад
Hey vince.., Glad it helped! 1830’s ??! Woohoo - sounds interesting! But worth saving that history! Thx for watching!
@robreynolds1172
@robreynolds1172 3 года назад
Been saving ply scraps and cedar shakes for a couple years with plans to do that to my 200 year old shack, pullin up the floor is just crazzzzzzzy. Last project after top to bottom Reno’s is the floor!
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 3 года назад
Hey Rob, 200;years old - awesome. Sounds like an adventure for sure! Thanks for watching.
@lancebland1308
@lancebland1308 Месяц назад
Outstanding!! Best video I have watched
@john_blues
@john_blues Год назад
Thanks for this. I'm having a house rehabbed and my carpenter just did this and I freaked out a little. lol. His explanation was the same as yours. I'm more at ease now. Thanks!
@Housebarons
@Housebarons Год назад
Hey John, It’s not the perfect solution. But sometimes perfect can be the enemy of the good…enough. Here’s a recent video that gives some perspective… ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--hYhd6V1nuQ.html Thx for watching!
@john_blues
@john_blues Год назад
@@Housebarons Thanks. My house is 95 years old so this video definitely helped.
@MannyFacts
@MannyFacts 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video! My mother in law hired a guy to do her floor in her room, when he was done the floor was 2 inches higher than the hall way 😐 didn’t use shims
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 8 месяцев назад
Oh wow! Thx for watching!
@Itzfrida
@Itzfrida 2 года назад
Great video man I was about to replace my whole floor saved me time and cash thanks!!!
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 2 года назад
Hey Antoine, Glad to hear it! Thx for watching!
@donnakruse61
@donnakruse61 2 года назад
Awesome our floor is sagging and undeveloped in spots, think this will be the fix we are looking for! Thanks
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 2 года назад
Hey Donna…, Great. Just make sure you first diagnose WHY you floor is sagging. A defect in the structure can be hurt by extra weight. We always like to fix the cause before addressing the symptom. Thx for watching!
@si06ka
@si06ka 3 года назад
Great job. Simple solution for a huge problem
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 3 года назад
Hey si06ka, Thx for letting us know and thx for watching!
@stonepointdrivingschool2044
@stonepointdrivingschool2044 2 года назад
Thanks, this is what I need - pier and beam, also can't put on the weight of the self-leveler (plus it's messy and wet) I prefer wood shims.
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 2 года назад
Hey Stonepoint..., That is why we used shims as well - leveler is heavy! Thx for watching!
@victorherrera387
@victorherrera387 10 месяцев назад
Just seen this! Gave me an idea on how to do my floors!
@timavery3912
@timavery3912 Год назад
Bookmarked. This is brilliant!
@Housebarons
@Housebarons Год назад
Hey Tim, Cool deal. Thx for watching!
@bobcat3102
@bobcat3102 3 года назад
Great video... Thanks from Canada.
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 3 года назад
Hey Bob, Thanks much for the kind words AND thx for letting us know where you are viewing from. We are always curious. Thx for watching!
@gilboston20033
@gilboston20033 Год назад
Good job, I used to level surface where requires a precision levelness using shim as thin as 0.001". If you can't find the right combination of shims, use a planer to get the right thickness.
@Housebarons
@Housebarons Год назад
Hey Gil, That is some crazy precision! Thx for the tips! And thx for watching!
@anthonykulacz9654
@anthonykulacz9654 3 года назад
Thanks for the great video. I do have a few questions. 1) If I use floor leveler instead of shims, do you still recommend using plywood or can the vinyl plank go right over the floor leveler? 2) what is the maximum distance in between shims in order for the plywood not to noticeably flex once you step on the final flooring and place your weight on the area right on top of the gaps 3) what is the recommended thickness of plywood 4) are you screwing the plywood into the shims?
@FisherCatProductions
@FisherCatProductions 2 года назад
1. Read mfg directions for both your planks and leveler. Normally VP can go right over floor leveler (but you MUST use the plank mfg approved padding under the planks) 2. Maximum OPEN AIR space between shims (not necessarily to the center of the shim pile of you are using large, square shims) is same as for joists--normally 14.5" (for 16" on center joists). You could go less (12"), but I would not go more. 3. Use subfloor mfg or code recommendation for the equivalent joist spacing for the thickness of subfloor you are going to use--normally no less than 3/4" T&G. (Remember, since you are not using joists, you are concerned about the maximum UNSUPPORTED SPACE between shim piles.) Also check plank mfg specs for subfloor, if any. 4. Unh...yes. If you screw between the shims you will bow the plywood. If you can hit joists, good. But make sure you are at least starting to penetrate completely through the original flooring for max holding power. My 2c.
@amberbiggs
@amberbiggs 5 месяцев назад
This was so very helpful, thank you!
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 5 месяцев назад
Glad it was helpful! Thx so much for watching!
@internalharm
@internalharm 2 года назад
I really love your method, might be harder to do on concrete but I think its possible.
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 2 года назад
Hey Internal…, Oh yeah. Seems like it would work to be. Thx for watching
@familyvideos9587
@familyvideos9587 3 года назад
Hello, great video! Just a few questions: 1) what is the maximum distance in between shims in order for the plywood not to noticeably flex once you step on the final flooring and place your weight on the area right on top of the gaps? 2) what is the recommended thickness of OSB or plywood? 3) are you screwing the plywood into the shims?
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 3 года назад
Hey Family, 1) 12-16 inches - depends on the thickness of the plywood. 2) 3/4-1 inch tongue and groove. 3) yes - through the shims into the floor w/ glue.
@stevebausch72
@stevebausch72 Месяц назад
Regarding spacing, 3/4" subfloor allows 24 inches on center (along strength axis). You want the shims over the existing joists, and the shims are wider than joists (no problem in that axis (lengthwise) Regarding weaker axis (48 inch width), 5 shims 6 inches square, spaced out would span 2 1/2 feet, side by side. Space them out with roughly 5 inch gaps to cover 4 feet. Haven't found any information about derate for the week axis, so I'm using 50 percent of rated span (12 inch centers). Seems pretty solid. Regarding moisture, I laid down poly sheet. And the subfloor is DryMax, the OSB guaranteed not to swell if left out in weather for 500 days. I'm not using squares, I'm using triangles; easier to level a tripod than a table.
@kerryerasmus1930
@kerryerasmus1930 2 года назад
Exactly what I was looking for, thanks mate.
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 2 года назад
Hey Kerry, Thx for watching
@chromengoldsupra
@chromengoldsupra 2 года назад
Great video! Well done and straight to the point. Thanks!
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 2 года назад
Hey Ben, Thx for watching!
@BreaTheBrat
@BreaTheBrat 3 месяца назад
This seems like a fine temporary solution but I feel like it will not last too long without sagging between those shim gaps.
@lanceweinert2590
@lanceweinert2590 16 дней назад
Unlikely. That OSB is normally installed over 16 on the center joist and is fine.
@thelouiebrand
@thelouiebrand 9 месяцев назад
The air gap in between will mold and eventually rot through. Just letting you know if you decide to do this. It may be sealed but spores will find their way out. But it’s your house so you can decide if this is for you.
@chrisoliver2568
@chrisoliver2568 7 месяцев назад
Installation is on a 2nd floor, conditioned above and below. Doubt there is enough temperature differential above and below to produce moisture for mold/rot to grow. If this were above a slab on grade it would be one thing, but since it's not, i don't see how this is any different than a typical plenum space between two floors. I vote that it's fine.
@Fidel-tk5rq
@Fidel-tk5rq 7 месяцев назад
if extruded polystyrene pads is used as shims instead of plywood pad? Please advise.
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 5 месяцев назад
Hey Chris, We would agree. It’s a totally dry space. So mold is not a worry on this second floor. Thx for your input.
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 5 месяцев назад
Can’t really say. Never tried that before. Not sure about durability. Thx for watching.
@DarrenThompson007
@DarrenThompson007 22 дня назад
Holy Karen - air circulating isn’t going to promote mold - just the opposite
@tessazywiec4992
@tessazywiec4992 3 года назад
Great idea!! Using it today.
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 3 года назад
Hey Tessa, Awesome! Let’s us know how it works out! Thx for watching and commenting!
@mattwyatt769
@mattwyatt769 7 месяцев назад
Excellent video!
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 7 месяцев назад
Thank you very much!
@vinayakpai4945
@vinayakpai4945 3 года назад
Thank you very much for sharing this. Your video was very helpful. Good man. Cheers!
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 3 года назад
Hey Vinayak, Thank you for watching!
@paulmonk7820
@paulmonk7820 Год назад
Appreciate you sharing this with us. May I suggest using a wireless lapel mike to eliminate the echo caused by the empty room?
@Housebarons
@Housebarons Год назад
Hey Paul, Thx. Yes. We were without that day. But good advice. Thx for watching!
@milankoci9460
@milankoci9460 3 года назад
Thank you very much. This was really helpful for me.
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 3 года назад
Hey Milan, Great! Thanks for watching!
@saucetoowetyuheard6184
@saucetoowetyuheard6184 Год назад
You’re a genius
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 11 месяцев назад
Hey sauce.., Thanks and thx for watching!
@briandd27
@briandd27 2 года назад
My wife and I bought our first house back in 2017. It was built in the 1960s. Looking back, I wish we would've passed on buying the house because now the floors in the back of the house has started to sag and those floors have tile so the tile has started to crack in places. So stressful....
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 2 года назад
Hey B…, Can you find out why by looking underneath? Sometimes supporting there can make a huge difference. This is what we did from the basement: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Hvgk8ZE0kaE.html Yes. Houses can be stressful. But care and repair can protect your investment. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Hvgk8ZE0kaE.html
@INVISIBLEpussy
@INVISIBLEpussy 2 года назад
Thanks from Edinburgh!
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 2 года назад
Hey INVISIBLE…, Thx for letting us know where you are watching from!
@pikecollisionllc9868
@pikecollisionllc9868 2 месяца назад
Feels like "Flippers special"
@Mika-ei9fc
@Mika-ei9fc 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the. This is awesome
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 5 месяцев назад
Glad you liked it!
@johnwagner8465
@johnwagner8465 2 года назад
Great video...I have an old house over 123 years old...the old section has the trees for floor joists...sags in the middle..has the old wide pine planks and over that is hardwood...I want to put a floating floor on it..do you think your shim method would work...thanks for making taking the time to make the video..gives me alittle hope..I don't want carpeting
@gilzr473
@gilzr473 2 года назад
Great videos thanks for sharing 👍👍🙏
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 2 года назад
Hey Gil, Thx for watching!
@kori_88
@kori_88 2 года назад
Does it matter how you lay the subfloor down since it’s not technically structural? Basically just click it together the best way it fits the room? I have uneven floors in every room of my house. I just tackled the worst room which is 10x10 and poured levelling compound all over it. I regret it, I don’t think the structure is strong enough for it and it still has a slight slope. Will follow a method like this for the rest of the place.
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 2 года назад
Hey K B, We were careful on the spacing so that the floor would not bow when walked on - shims every 12-16 inches and subfloor - tongue and groove plywood. thx for watching!
@OGCJ10
@OGCJ10 8 месяцев назад
How did it work out for you?
@stephenguidry7627
@stephenguidry7627 3 года назад
thanks i have a sagging bathroom this will work
@nancye7520
@nancye7520 2 года назад
AWESOME. I have an issue in a 170-year old wooden house and have avoided the idea of laminate because of the weight of a filler. My sagging area comprises a smaller area, but at its deepest is nearly 3” 😒 judging from the distance from floor to the bottom of the open door. I think it’ll work.
@benodell9675
@benodell9675 3 года назад
Great idea
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 3 года назад
Hey Ben, Thanks. And thx for watching!
@johnjenney7053
@johnjenney7053 9 месяцев назад
I get doing this to level off finished flooring, but it still leaves the problem of a sagged overspanned step notched 24” on center 2”x 8” joist in an old home. If you did this correctly an easier way would be to go under the house add coupke footings and a beam Jack up the whole floor to be closer to level then 3 bags thin layer self leveler. That way you correct the issue not a cosmetic band aid. If cement floor might consider poly foam injection first then some leveler.
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 9 месяцев назад
Thx for the input!
@bkd-newyork2256
@bkd-newyork2256 2 года назад
an excellent video..
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 2 года назад
Hey BKD, Thx fir watching!
@lukeparnell6982
@lukeparnell6982 3 года назад
Good job. Thanks for the info.
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 3 года назад
Hey Luke, Thanks for watching!
@3TheJesusCodeWebBooks
@3TheJesusCodeWebBooks 2 года назад
One side of my tiled 11x12 floor is 3 1/2" lower, then tapers off to the high point. Id need a ton of leveler. Instead I will use hardwood flooring 24 pieces 3/4 x 8" x 12' s and level and shim each one separately skipping the need of another layer of subfloor. I figure I'll start at the low point and work my way to the level side flattening and leveling along the way.
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 2 года назад
Hey inventor, Definitely sounds like too much for leveler. Sounds like you have a solution! Thx for watching!
@uscgnewf
@uscgnewf 3 года назад
This was super helpful! 👌 Any tips for out of square door jams and unlevel drywall ceiling? Thanks!! Great stuff!
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 3 года назад
Hey Joel, This first step would be to see if it is possible to correct any of the causes of the sagging. In this video we were able to remedy a lot ( but not everything) through the use of jacks. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Hvgk8ZE0kaE.html Then if the door jam is not corrected .... only fix I know would be to cut it out and re-shim it. Pretty simple task. Ceilings - yikes! Hope the jacking up the floor works. Otherwise, you have to shim it and hang new drywall. Hanging ceiling drywall is labor intensive :-) Hope that helps! Thx for watching.
@cmcmillan7987
@cmcmillan7987 3 года назад
Thanks really helpful.
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 3 года назад
Hey C, Great! Thx for watching!
@tricatfilms6136
@tricatfilms6136 27 дней назад
I really want to do this rather than ripping out the old floor/subfloor then sistering to joists with HEAVY 2x6s or what not, but the only PROBLEM is afterwards my floor is going to be about 1" taller than the two adjoining rooms that are level with decent floors. ANY IDEAS??
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 24 дня назад
Ripping up old floor or raising / resupporting the floor from underneath are the only ways I know to address the issues. We shimmed because supporting from underneath was not cost effective. But yes, it raised all the floors on the second level by an inch. It can be a dilemma. Thx for watching!
@susanahlquist4321
@susanahlquist4321 3 года назад
thanks a million!!!
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 3 года назад
Hey Susan, Thx fir watching!
@cvidal2702
@cvidal2702 3 года назад
Isn't the plywood simply going to become un-level over time in all the areas there aren't any shim's.
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 3 года назад
Hey C, Your typical floor has plywood or OSB spanning joists that are 16 inches a part. So the shims are spaced similarly. Should not be a problem. Thx for watching.
@richricha180
@richricha180 6 месяцев назад
Can you do this on top of hardwood floors?
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 6 месяцев назад
Hey Rich, Seems like it would work - though covering hardwood is sad. Just know that you want to address the cause of the sag ( stop it from sagging further ) before doing cosmetic changes. Thx for watching!
@henrylong45
@henrylong45 2 года назад
Good video!!
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 2 года назад
Hey Henry, Thx for watching!
@davidhanni208
@davidhanni208 3 года назад
This is brilliant . 3 years ago this would be super efficient now with the price of plywood it would cost you 1000 dollars just to level your floor lolol
@julianamador7532
@julianamador7532 3 года назад
3/4 inch cement would be even more expensive
@jordyhumby
@jordyhumby 6 дней назад
Vote Kamala for Soviet style price control and to depopulate the earth for a elite communist regime. If you don't you're a white racist sexist
@alwatts4108
@alwatts4108 Год назад
thank you much easy now
@Housebarons
@Housebarons Год назад
Hey Al, Awesome. Thx for watching!
@armenmichaeli6704
@armenmichaeli6704 6 месяцев назад
Are the edges of the OSB boards painted blue at the store, or did you guys treat them with something? For what reason are they treated, impermeability? Also, I've been looking for this method of leveling without knowing I were looking for it ;) Appreciate the video very much!
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 6 месяцев назад
Hey Armen.., They are painted on edges at the mill - I think it’s for identification. Thx much for watching!
@sherrymckay7
@sherrymckay7 Год назад
How do you run it through the hallway to the stairs without transitioning
@abduljalilepps8518
@abduljalilepps8518 4 месяца назад
What length of screws to use to screw on half inch plywood and shims through wooden floor
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 3 месяца назад
Measure the thickness of board, plus the gap plus another 3/4 to 1 inch into the sub floor.
@ionnaphotography2313
@ionnaphotography2313 3 года назад
Thank you so much!
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 3 года назад
Hey Jonna, Thx for watching!
@hoptoad
@hoptoad Год назад
Thanks for this tutorial - exactly what I've been considering. Question - I'm doing this *on top* of an exisitng hardwood floor (an old sagging railroad apartment) - and then carpet or vinyl on top of the hardwood. The difference between corners of the 15'x8' room is significant - (from high point first) [0", .5", 2.25", 1.75"]. I plan on using 3/4" plywood and 12" square shims spaced with 12" air gaps between each shim pile, then drilling the plywood into each shim pile at those intervals. The issue is that I need to protect the hardwood floor below (it's not in fantastic shape, but I can't go screwing wood screws into it as I am a renter). I'm wondering if you could recommend a wood-friendly adhesive - like vinyl or silicone? Just to keep the shim piles stuck enough to the underlying wood. I don't imagine they will be drifiting or scooting around a lot as the whole setup will be filling the entire floor area and everything should be snug, but it seems risky to not fasten the shims to the original floor in any way. Thanks in advance for any recommendations!
@Housebarons
@Housebarons Год назад
Hey hop, Sounds similar to what we did. Could you not lay down the shims. Then put a dab of liquid nails on top of the shim. Then lay plywood on the shims.? The shims would be glued to the bottom of the plywood but not the floor. Maybe put flooring paper between shim and floor if you were worried about marking up the floor. Anyway, once the glue dries, the shim won’t move because the plywood floor won’t move. Hope that helps. Thx for watching!
@hoptoad
@hoptoad Год назад
@@Housebarons Hey thanks for the quick reply! I think you are right - no adhesive between the lower floor and shim interface, just liquid nails + shallow woodscrew between the plywood and shim. just need to figure out what to put on top of the plywood that doesn't look terrible 😅😅
@hoptoad
@hoptoad Год назад
@@Housebarons one more question! (haha sorry) - the floor is *quite* crooked, so much so that there is a quarter inch drop just across one stack of 12" shims - what would you say is the tolerance at which to ignore the gab given the flex properties of 5/8" OSB? I can't find plywood under 1/4" and would need to star doing partial (quarter width) shims across these stacks
@Deeban7
@Deeban7 3 месяца назад
Hi! This might be a silly question, but surely where you place the shims on slanted parts of the floor it won’t be level? Won’t they just follow the slope of the floor? Do you have to cut the shims and angles? Thanks!
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 3 месяца назад
Hey Dan, Yes - the shims are different thickness of wood stacked on top of each other till they get to the needed height for all of them to form a level surface. Hope that helps. Thx for watching!
@serenadesoz
@serenadesoz 2 месяца назад
I have a slanting floor in my 1860s cottage, where the brick walls are set on the ground and basically seperate from the floor. Would it be better to apply this method or get someone in to restump?
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 2 месяца назад
Hey Duck, The method in this video is more last resort. If you can get into a basement or crawl space and address the slanting condition of the floors that way ( be presupposing or jacking) it’s far better long term. Hope that helps. Thx for watching!
@mr.nathan4972
@mr.nathan4972 Год назад
Space between spacers?
@jstorres486
@jstorres486 2 года назад
Wow great idea thank u so much for taking out your time to explain.. this is awesome… where can I get those big shims?
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 2 года назад
Hey Jose, We cut those from a sheet of 1/4 inch plywood and other scrap made to fit . Thanks for watching!
@jjc4232
@jjc4232 Год назад
The proper way, of course is a lot more work and cost, is to rip out the existing subflooring and sister the expose joists with new lumber to level each. Then you install new subfloor. Much more work but will last lot longer then just shim and glue new subfloor. The old subfloor will eventually squeak and Creek.
@Housebarons
@Housebarons Год назад
Hey jjc, True- but we didn’t want to mess with the asbestos tile. Thx for watching!
@kuhki5208
@kuhki5208 2 года назад
Won't the original floor continue 5o sag over time bringing the "new floor" with it? I don't think you should hack a foundation.
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 2 года назад
Hey kuhki, This floor got there over 100 yrs. So eventually, decades from now it may need to be rebuilt but that seems not to be cost effective for this situation. Thx for watching!
@rliy001
@rliy001 2 года назад
Some say the guys are still leveling this floor which keeps sagging each year. After laying layer after layer of floor boards on top of each other, the hight of the room is now height of a 2 year old toddler, few more levelings and the entire room should be sealed with floorboards to the ceiling
@jerrys.1910
@jerrys.1910 11 месяцев назад
Looks like a viable solution in some cases. Did you have any trouble with the 3/4 inch OSB not supporting enough in between the shims?... Was there any 'give'?? Thank you. Great video.
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 11 месяцев назад
Hey Jer…, Not at all - regular floor joist spacing is 12 inches apart. Thx for watching!
@agentcero4364
@agentcero4364 2 года назад
Can you still do this if the wood is old, unleveled and unstable? Also the wood has some holes in the floor
@Laundrybags
@Laundrybags 3 года назад
Could you please describe how you finish around door? That would be a great help. Thank you.
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 3 года назад
Hey Jin, Whether you are talking about the subfloor ( like what we laid down in this video ) or the finish flooring, they are similar. We had to undercut the molding ( the door jamb, and the door molding ) and slide the subfloor wood under it so it looks seamless. You can see how we did this very thing near the end of this video we made on finishing a floor. m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fNrbM9sdmjg.html It’s fine to undercut the molding and jamb because all of that is hanging on the 2x4 framing core structure of the wall. AND as you raise the floor, the door may no longer fit, so you may need to trim off the bottom of the door. Hope that helps. Feel free to let me know if something still is unclear. Thx for watching!
@Joshua_Lyon
@Joshua_Lyon 2 года назад
Hi, thank you for the great video! I have a wavy floor in my home office on the second floor and I think this is just the answer I'm looking for. I would only be doing this as a small (around 6' x 7') platform for one area though, that I'd cover with a rug, and I don't want to damage the existing hardwood underneath. Is there something you can recommend to go under the shims to protect that surface, like carpet padding? My concern is that it's spongy so it might mess up the leveling over time (if not immediately once my desk and rolling chair are placed on the final platform). Thanks again!
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 2 года назад
Hey Joshua, Maybe try thin padding used as underlayment for engineered hardwood floating floors. Specifically we’ve used “quietwalk” - it’s blue in rolls. Lumber Liquidators sells it, also big box home stores. Hope that helps. Thx for watching!
@Fidel-tk5rq
@Fidel-tk5rq 7 месяцев назад
Hi there, Thanks for sharing. I'm currently facing same problem in my kitchen which is smaller (2.5m x 2m) and was wondering if I can use Extruded Polystyrene pads as shims instead of plywood pads? Your prompt reply is much appreciated!
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 7 месяцев назад
Hi, Never done that. I would want to test or find data about compressibility over time - will weight of the floor covering and furniture, people walking on it cause it to get smaller over time??? Hope that gives you food for thought. Thx for watching!
@jspate61
@jspate61 3 года назад
Would you consider using this leveling method if you were going to install tile on top, or would it simply flex too much?
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 3 года назад
Hey Jeff, Yes, flex would be an issue. I think you need something like 1.25 inches solid subfloor for tile. Thx for watching.
@acaflooring
@acaflooring 2 года назад
@@Housebarons or self leveler
@jean-francoisbernier5250
@jean-francoisbernier5250 Год назад
Thx for this video. I have 2 questions if I may : 1) isn't the "air space" under the plywood making the finished structure noisy to impact/sounds (walking, moving chairs, voices, TV, etc...). I'm concerned with soundproofing... If that is the case, would a layer of soundproofing material be indicated under the plywood and on top of it ? 2) few shots of the video show some deflection when you guys walk on the plywood . Is it because it has not been screwed down yet ?? I'm asking because I'm told you need 1 1/4 structural material to avoid deflection on tiles... thx
@Housebarons
@Housebarons Год назад
Hey Jean…, There is a space but this is essentially a floor over a floor which also has a space in between it and the ceiling below. Still you could add additional sound proofing material if you want to be sure. 2) deflection - yes. We still have to add another 3/8 to 1/2 finished floor which will add more stiffness. We are not doing tile on this floor. You are correct / tile subfloor MUST be thicker to keep your grout lines from cracking! Thx for watching!
@LGALARNE
@LGALARNE 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for this video !! I will used your approach to relevel my floor . Where did you find the little 12" X 12" flat shim sheets ?
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 11 месяцев назад
Hey LG…, We made our own from 1/8 inch and 1/4 inch plywood. Thx for watching!
@LGALARNE
@LGALARNE 11 месяцев назад
Thansks for your answer ! @@Housebarons
@jc2367
@jc2367 3 года назад
still looking for a solution for basement concrete floor, leveler is very expensive.
@problemsulfer
@problemsulfer 8 месяцев назад
Would you need a vapor barrier underneath the osb if this was in coastal Georgia over a crawl space?
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 8 месяцев назад
Hey prob…, Hmmm. I typically would only do that if it were a slab. Your crawl should vent - otherwise it would be a mold pit underneath…. I would however try and find WHY the sag is happening… if it’s a crawl, you can probably get simple access to it to see. You might be able to support it and stop future sag. Thx for watching.
@prizefighter7648
@prizefighter7648 Год назад
Is it ok to drill all of those screws into the asbestos tiles underneath the new plywood? Once those tiles have been drilled into shouldn’t they be removed from the house so the fibres don’t escape into the air?
@Housebarons
@Housebarons Год назад
Hey prize, It seemed incapsulated to us. The screws drill down and don’t bring material up unless you strip the screws. Thx for watching!
@koglioknows
@koglioknows Год назад
Can't wait to see how big that threshold will end up being?🤔 would like to do something similar without the toe stubber?
@Housebarons
@Housebarons Год назад
Hey Koglio, We did the entire 2nd floor of that house. All level. Thx for watching!
@sarahduarte8403
@sarahduarte8403 11 месяцев назад
This is great and very informative but where did you get the shims? Im having trouble finding them! Thanks!!
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 11 месяцев назад
Hey Sarah…, We made them from 1/8 inch and 1/4 inch plywood. Thx for watching!
@sarahduarte8403
@sarahduarte8403 11 месяцев назад
@@Housebarons thank you!!
@gateslattes4686
@gateslattes4686 11 месяцев назад
Hi, can u use 1/2 inch plywood? Would it bend ? How big are your squares? Thanks and great video
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 11 месяцев назад
Hey gates… 1/2 inch for the subfloor ? Yes that’s thin so you’d probably feel some deflection. You’d have to have your supporting squares / shims closer. You could lay out a single sheet of ply wood with shims under it, walk on it and see how much it sags. Our square shims were about 12x12 inches. Thx for watching!
@Snipely
@Snipely Год назад
Could you use purlins for this instead? And just shim those in spots to make them level..
@Housebarons
@Housebarons Год назад
Hey Snipely, Sure. Just have to taper them as our floor was a bit wavy. Thx for watching!
@Housebarons
@Housebarons Год назад
Hey Snipely, Sure. Just have to taper them as our floor was a bit wavy. Thx for watching!
@karimshaban8050
@karimshaban8050 5 месяцев назад
Is there really enough support in between the pads? Does it make sense to add supports of some sort (I'm thinking maybe some 16g-steel flat strap ties - they're like $3 each for 3 foot long ones).
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 5 месяцев назад
Hey kar…, Floor joist are typically spaced 12 inches apart. So keeping the distance within that should provide enough stability. Thx for watching!
@bperrier
@bperrier 7 месяцев назад
Could i use wood fiber boards as shims ?
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 7 месяцев назад
Hey BP…, Not exactly sure which kind you refer to but general, if the wood is solid and can bear the weight of people and furniture, makes sense to me. But if you have doubts, then pick a type of plywood. Thx for watching!
@wilenedozier6961
@wilenedozier6961 6 месяцев назад
Thank you! I bought a house built in 1935. Upstairs floor is not level.
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 6 месяцев назад
Perfect Great job giving it a try!
@alwatts4108
@alwatts4108 3 месяца назад
what size are the shims you cut for leveling the floor ?
@Housebarons
@Housebarons 3 месяца назад
Hey Al, 1/8 and 1/4 inch thick and stacked as needed. - 12”x12”
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