You need the lat/lon on your osd for if you crash it’s one more thing you can use to help find it. Just plug in the last readable frame for your dvr and boom, now you have a better location. Unless of course your googles go black mid flight hahah. Excellent video and great run. I don’t care what people say. That’s long range with a quad.
I have lat/lon. It's in the DV-R. It's just I blurred it (top center in the DV-R). I don't want people to know exactly where this is. Thanks for the good words. This is long range.
Dood! Nice video, thanks for this! I am actually suprised you went so low below the hilltop you launched from, but awesome test! I’m just now starting to really break into long range and have been building 6” and bigger quads. I’m in Central Washington so I have A LOT of area to explore in long range flight! Again, great video man! Thanks for this example!!!!🤙🏽💯🤙🏽
Thanks!! I really like to fly low. As low as possible without hitting stuff. Of course, it's easier to go far is you stay high. It's just more fun flying low. Central Washington sounds great. Here in SoCal it's either really crowded, or desert.
Nice video and setup man! Have you considered the dji fpv system for long range flying? Especially since they now support a good part of the bf osd including GPS info.
Hi, thanks! I have considered it. I mean, I fly it... for freestyle and cinematic flying. But I'm going to take one of my DJI 5 inchers to a spot like this and try it out. I don't think it would be as reliable for really long range, but for something like this that isn't that far I think it could work.
Thanks! It's going to be 2 years since this very soon, but I don't think much has changed. Yes, we have DJI HD video now, but analog is still king for long distance. That said, I'm pretty sure I should be able to do a run like this on DJI. I have to try it.
The Voyager Space Probe that is outside of the solar system is running 20 watts, and we still get signal from it, but the receivers for it are a little larger than the ones we use for FPV.
Nice video Pinch Tune! I run inav on my long range quads. If I flip the switch, or a failsafe, it will fly back and land within inches from where I took off from! A little bit less stress but not much.
Thanks, yeah, I need to get on the RTH bandwagon. I’m more concerned with mechanical failures, but yeah, a video or radio fail would definitely merit RTH. Thanks for watching.
Good flying and helpful tips👍 thanks Still havent decided if I should get a 6 or 7inch. Btw do you really have to run 1W? I fly 2.7km with my 5inch on 250mw and I get 96-8LQ
Hey Stephen! Thanks. The one thing I didn't go over in this video is GPS rescue... even though I'm using GPS, I'm flying in a place where I can retrieve it easily. I'll go over that soon hopefully.
@@PinchTune hey man do you know if we'll get in trouble for going out for a flight during lockdown? I live in the middle of nowhere but do it make a difference?
THAT is something I plan on testing. I know that I get more "cut" through brush with DJI, but I'm not sure it can safely fly this far. I'll be testing that when I can, with a follow up to this video. Unfortunately, non of my DJI quads can carry a battery this big and have this long flight time, so I'll have to rig something new up.
Since gps is crap. I always fly out a lil toward direction I'm going and turn around. I get a reference point to something near me or behind me to fly towards if I start spinning around and get confused. Like land nah in military got to have those reference points. Triangulate
My setup isn't actually optimum. It is on the quad, as there is a vertical antenna and a horizontal antenna. On my radio, I had the antenna flat (horizontal), and that's not optimum. Vertical would be best. Note that if you have just one antenna on the quad, and place it on an arm in the front, it would be at about 45 degrees in forward flight, which would still be better than flat. Otherwise, just one antennas on a vertical mount would be great too. I use them flat often for convenience, but it isn't best.
@@PinchTune On my quad its on the back arm ,horizontal. Should my radio antenna (Diamond) be horizontal or vertical . When I use the L configuration ant I run my radio ant vertical . Thx
@@jordannovek2911 Yeah, see, that's the thing. On this quad I have the antenna horizontal and thus I keep the radio antenna horizontal too. But the plan is to place it vertically eventually, in which case I'll run the radio antenna vertically too. I prefer it to match.
Nice i have just built a 7inch LR yet to test as full lockdown in the Philippines might reposition my antenna. I just have the micro tx with 250mw so i might upgrade is it important to have something like clear view or just nice to have?
Hi, 250mW on the Micro TX would get you as far as I did on this video with good antenna placement and a low noise floor. Also, you don't ned Clearview. I prefer it, but a RapidFire in your goggles can do this just fine. Just make sure your patch is pointed in the right direction, or run a large front patch and you should be good.
@@PinchTune thanks for your reply really enjoy your videos I also have the 800mw unify hv and a tbs fusion and have my old true-d 3.7 so will give both a try just waiting to I get to malaysia for my new job as philippines is still on lockdown so thats holding me up sometimes be nice to be on the farm in Oz as its huge perfect for LR but work here is good and never cold can always fly
Thank you I hope to build my first 7"LR dedicated quad soon and start to dabble in the mountain surfing experience any tips help so with that thank you again for all the knowledge you share with us RU-vidrs. 🥃cheers🍻
Hi, thanks. Glad I can help. I have some Super G 7 inch build videos from last year further down my channel. Those are good too. I'll have an updated Super G video soon since I'm doing some updates on it.
Hell ya dude! Such a good video. At first I thought you were going out with two omnis and I was like noooooo then I realized you were using clear view lol
Thanks! Yeah, if I plan to go farther I put the CV on a tripod. But this spot gives me a vantage point, so I'm pretty high up. To be honest, two omnis would have likely worked for this too. I have those two single X-Airs. I wanted the double X-Airs, but they are sooo expensive I never got around to ordering them.
@@PinchTune oh man. I run the dual X air and its amazing. Expensive antenna for sure but it is amazing! I will most likely be coming back out there later this summer depending on how this corona virus stuff effects everything, but if I make it out there we gotta fly again bro!
Ohhhh nooooo. They are completely different animals. And that's coming from a guy that loves DJI's FPV system. This flight might be simple and straight, but it's only an example. This is not how I normally fly this quad. You would never fly a DJI AP (aerial photography) quad like FPV guys flies FPV quads. To give you a better example, this is the SAME quad from this video. DJI drones are not flown like this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0HNaBZ2h5k4.html
Here's another example. This is not the same quad, but it could be. I'm just trying to give you examples that are not full-blown flippy-floppy freestyle, but depict cinematic flying in a way DJI quads can't fly: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cc9XiTLIf5c.html
There's more too. I'm only flying 2 miles out here. I'd be nervous flying further than that on a digital signal. I understand it's the future, but it isn't there yet. I trust my analog signal for these long flights.
After this video was shot I started doing more testing and I proved, at least to myself, that the Immortal-T on the radio does better if put vertically. This quad has a horizontal AND vertical antenna as well, so in this case, a vertical T on the radio would 100% be better. My very first LR quad had only one immortal T, flat horizontal at the front. I always flew it with a flat T on the TX as well. I would have to test and see if running that flat antenna on the quad plus a vertical on the TX would be better. I think it will because the spread from the radio will be better even if the orientation with the quad isn't. But either way, I haven't failsafed yet, but I haven't gone too extreme either. There are few places here where I can fly past 2 miles and still be able to retrieve it if I go down. I have never lost a quad in 6 years of flying. But I play it safe.
I just realized I forgot that I flew my Alien in this video, which doesn't have dual diversity. So yeah, flat antenna on both sides. Not optimum, but obvious fine for 2 miles :)
2 miles is about the limit of a LOS stock DJI digital video feed so yeah not a bad test length. Probably the limit of my range for a good long while to come. I would follow the dirt road, that way if it goes down, and you are driving or walking out to fetch it, it won't be far off the dirt road. I'm thinking of getting a strobe light to setup where I'm parked just so I'll be able to see where I am back should I lose GPS for any reason or have to walk back to it. Strobes aren't particular visible in the daylight though so jury is still out on that. fpv.air-war.org
@@PinchTune yup it tops at 250mw. Cool, thanks man. I am flying to Vegas next month and plan to fly at a couple of spots in the vicinity, mostly long range. So want to be prepared for that 😀
@@stickboyfpv4742 No worries. I don't remember if I mentioned it or not. Probably not since the entire video, even the commentary was done at the spot. I'm sure I decided to hide the coordinates while editing. Can't believe it's almost been a year since this. I'm flying 100% HD nowadays.
Well, the frame on this one is an Impulse RC Alien 6 inch. However, if you come from the DJI world, you're probably used pre-built drones. The one in this video is home-built. Basically, the frame might be an Impulse RC Alien, but I can assure you there is no other built exactly like it since the combination of parts you can do is endless.
This one has a discontinued Motolab Tempest F4. It does have a cheapo GPS from a company I will not mention. I bought it before GPS really became popular. I believe this quad is on 4.1.1. BF
Well, there's no "kit". I hand selected the parts to build this aircraft. However, I'll point you to a video where I go into more detail about what goes into a quad like this one. Brb...
Absolutely. It didn't trust the arrow at first, but now I'm finding it's pretty accurate (on this quad) so I'm trusting it more. I got Kyle lunch this day for rescuing my quad last time. But seems I would be on my own had I crashed during this flight. Lol.
I do. But the thing is, I don't far that far. Not compared to other "hardcore" long rangers. To give you an example, this spot was fully open, and the day was VERY clear. I had my buddy Kyle with me spotting, and even though 2 miles is pretty far, you can still see the drone... as a little dot mind you, but you can see it the entire time. The rules state that as long as you can see the drone without using enhancement, like binoculars (glasses are OK), you're in the clear. Beyond 2 miles out, I'd be wary. But this is the furthest I've flown.
PinchTune so what if you didn’t have a spotter and also Is your drone registered because some people are telling me to register and then others are saying most people don’t care so there’s no need to register. But fines are a lot
@@2x.prod_412 That's much to talk about here. But when flying long range I always have a spotter. Also, someone need to stay at "camp" while the other person has to go hike to retrieve it. Otherwise, you're stuck with pounds and pounds of gear, to hike up a hill to go get the quad. So for me, I HAVE to have someone with me.
If you're talking about the separation between the VTX and the RX, the RX is over at the front of the quad and the VTX is either at the very back, or under the top plate. That's generally how I set up all quads.
@@JakeBastlerZ well I'm just saying there probably is a way for it to work 100% I just use a switch (which I didn't mention) but would like to mess around and see if I can get it to work when a real failsafe happens. I Did watch Nurks video, I'm sure there's a reason the drone just dropped, there has to be a fix/ workout.
Yeah, a couple of people have brought that up. Haha. I should do this again and run a second pair of goggles with these omnis to see how it'll do. I bet it would work. Yeah, not as good as the Clearview, but enough to be flyable.
Hehe. I have a bit of a gut. I need the exercise. You're right though. I haven't set it up due to laziness. Or rather, taking the time to go somewhere I can test and set it up just right. You'd be surprised at how many of the top LR guys haven't set up RTH, or just recently did it. Again, I had a chance to film this video or spend that time setting up RTH and not have gotten any decent footage that day. I haven't gone LR flying in a months, but I hope next time I get out I'll have RTH set up.
@@PinchTune Cool I didn't know about the new update. According to their website it does along with a few other new features. Now I got something to do. Thanks for the heads up, I really should keep track of those things.
The only difference between this and my freestyle drones is the dual diversity receiver. The VTX is the same, as is the camera. And technically, for this type of flight, you don't need a dual diversity receiver. A regular, good or TBS Micro TX, or Nano TX would do just fine. So video and radio range-wise, my freestyle quads can do this. The problem is that with 5 inch props, you lose some efficiency and a fly time... as well as not being able to carry a larger battery. That's the only reason many freestyle quads can't do this, the fly time. I built one recently that "might" be able to do it. But I have to test flight times a bit more. Would have to be on 6s rather than 5s to get that extra bit of efficiency.
What's DII? So far I trust my CV1 more than I trust my RapidFire. I love this thing. But if there is something better, I'm all ears. BTW, I had the CV behind my TX like I do for freestyle because I had a high vantage point. If I'm fly a spot where I need more height, I turn it into a ground-station on a tripod as high as it'll go.
@@flo-ridafpv5713 Oh, gotcha. Yeah. I don't know yet. My experience with it is a little limited still, but I haven't found it be able to go further than analog, yet. At least not on 700mW. That said. I haven't flown it in a place like this.
@@PinchTune u should try, dji goes way further, w better signal retention, MIMO bouces off rocks n extends range, but at 4 miles it just cuts out, something to do with MIMO
That's a well debated topic, and one good reason not to crank out 2W simply because you can. I fly 100mW 95% of the time, which is relatively low power. And during this video it was 500mW if I remember. I think this topic will be debated forever, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the WiFi at people's homes cranking out 2.4ghz all day every day is also something to consider.
Kind of a useless video. Having a GPS module should at least give you a return to home arrow. But the real answers to not getting lost are twofold: Setting up return to home failsafes properly if the fear is loss of control/communication. Or be a bit of a real pilot and understand your terrain. Playing full scale flight simulators will help you understand how to use terrain and identify exact spots from altitude relative to land features (roads, edges of forests, buildings, mountains, etc. Real pilots have a great sense of direction and always know how to point north, south, east, west and make their way back to where they came come almost without even checking. In effect, they have a built in mental arrow. Why is this good? Because then their eyes can stay situationally aware to terrain features that are more distinct…or just notice new info like not crashing into a tree
