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How to make a Beta clutch lighter by adding washers to reduce the tension on the springs 

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@ow-my-achilles1106
@ow-my-achilles1106 6 лет назад
Great tip. I did it with washers from Home Depot. Clutch is lighter. Still a bit strong for me, but much improved.
@Evil_Morty2000
@Evil_Morty2000 4 года назад
You add the washers to all 4 springs?
@ow-my-achilles1106
@ow-my-achilles1106 4 года назад
@@Evil_Morty2000 Yes all 4. I have since moved on to a Rekluse Radius CX. The stock lever pull is about 60-70% of the stock Xtrainer clutch pull WITH the washer spacers. So the Rekluse is lighter pull AND I don't need it if I don't want to use it. It stopped the nuisance stalls in low speed interrupted terrain (rock gardens/uphill tech).
@Natedoc808
@Natedoc808 5 лет назад
Absolutely top notch mod. Doing this tomorrow as I prep my ‘16 RR race edition for this winters riding season! Cheers 🍻
@martinmlcoch6713
@martinmlcoch6713 6 лет назад
Thanks for the tip. I have tried it today and clutch is really lighter. I used 1,6 mm thick washers, tommorrow will be tested in forrest :)
@CobainAngelo
@CobainAngelo 4 года назад
how did it go?
@danno02
@danno02 4 года назад
Well?
@vever69420
@vever69420 3 года назад
il faut le faire sur les 4 vis?
@TheBigBraap
@TheBigBraap 3 года назад
Great hack - thanks, ive been suffering with finger blasting clutch finger. Gunna try this and see if it works👍
@ccreature7086
@ccreature7086 Год назад
great tip, and when the clutch starts slipping just take them back out 😃
@murraypetrone9893
@murraypetrone9893 6 лет назад
Great video and thanks so much for the detailed instructions.
@Jay-mz7dr
@Jay-mz7dr 3 года назад
just found your channel. Thanks for the tip I will try it out although I do have a clake one on my 300RR 2018 and love it
@hometownguy7184
@hometownguy7184 Год назад
does this make the clutch not grab as hard also?will it wear out the plates quicker?
@roh92cp
@roh92cp 3 года назад
I tried this on my 2022 Xtrainer and it didn't seem to change the pull. The 2022 has a new clutch with 6 bolts so not sure if this would work. I used 1.25MM washers.
@ArturasSapalas
@ArturasSapalas 4 года назад
hey, what is the part number for bigger diameter of clutch slave cylinder? Owen Lock has mentioned 2014 RR 350 racing. I looked the models there is no RACING model for 2014, but there FACTORY version. Please specify the the exact model and/or part number. thanks
@NahYeahMate
@NahYeahMate 2 года назад
I put the impact driver to my screws today to just one click like you did in your video but that turned out to be too much force for those darn things. So the bolt tower is now shattered. Will need a full clutch basket won't I?
@hrbestalkinme3690
@hrbestalkinme3690 6 лет назад
Back in my day we just got stronger hands. Jk lol im 23 and i have a hydro clutch
@pvcindustrialdemonterrey1852
can you tell me where did you buy the washers, can yo put the link?
@adamrees4280
@adamrees4280 3 года назад
Gday owen , do u know how to make the stand auto retract on a beta xtrainer 300 2021 . The kit comes with extra springs and a metal plate ( 2 holes ) but no instructions? Any info would be awesome . Love the vids Cheers Adam
@scottgaskill4896
@scottgaskill4896 4 года назад
How doesn't that increase the preload on the spring? I'm guessing the washer is laying on top of the spring and putting more pressure on it?
@francoismarais8481
@francoismarais8481 4 года назад
I had the same question. I think the washer is small enough to fit inside the spring, the washer then sits underneath the bolt effectively making the bolt not go in as deep. I did a similar mod on my ktm but I just bought slightly longer screws, same result I guess.
@rocknraptor3195
@rocknraptor3195 Год назад
🤦 oh i see its moving the outside of the basket (top) thus giving more room & making the spring weaker. Thats why shims go under the springs!🤦 No wonder my clutch is slipping now!!!🤦😆 I feel dumb but at least i figured out the problem lol.
@glenj61
@glenj61 6 лет назад
Hi Owen, What do mean when you say that the Mid West levers feel a bit of a compromise? Thanks for your videos BTW.
@chrisbuffoni
@chrisbuffoni 4 года назад
Will this work on a newer beta with a hydraulic clutch?
@rochellestanley9532
@rochellestanley9532 Год назад
Yes
@IgyTheVan
@IgyTheVan 3 года назад
Can I do this on a trial’s bike too? I hope so because I’m going to try it!
@emilyfc5846
@emilyfc5846 4 года назад
Has anyone done this with a 2019 XT (6spring). Bought some6 mill, 1.2 mill thick washers thinking mine had 4 springs...I just want to be sure I can still get away with using this thick of washer.
@rgb5346
@rgb5346 4 года назад
Can I used this idea in every bike such as Hero Honda 100 cc bike.
@orlando8193
@orlando8193 7 лет назад
sorry do you upload video lowering diy forks beta xtrainer sachs etc etc thanks
@sorindobria2315
@sorindobria2315 2 года назад
Does it work on husqvarna Te 300 as well?
@tchaiquentin
@tchaiquentin 5 лет назад
What is the torque of clutch bolts, pls..
@davidbrochu5923
@davidbrochu5923 2 года назад
Hi.. do you happen to know if this could work on the Beta 200rr 2021?
@luisdematos5724
@luisdematos5724 2 года назад
yes it works, just the inside of the clutch is different cause you have the hidraulic cilinder there, but if you add a washer same thinkness that fits inside the springs, principle is the same.just recomend a 1-2mm max, other it will slip.
@adamheath2835
@adamheath2835 3 года назад
Will this work on a 2020 beta 300rr?
@rochellestanley9532
@rochellestanley9532 Год назад
Yes
@jondohm3082
@jondohm3082 4 года назад
how do you get the washer out of the clutch when you decide to either not use it or experiment further?
@Vanderkitten
@Vanderkitten 3 года назад
Magnet
@jportillo9129
@jportillo9129 6 лет назад
You know if can I do the same with my 11 rmz250?
@kylerehberg235
@kylerehberg235 5 лет назад
Is there no torque value on those bolts?
@Evil_Morty2000
@Evil_Morty2000 4 года назад
10nm
@internalbeats6870
@internalbeats6870 5 лет назад
Thanks for the video. I have a 2019 200. Any idea how to make the engagement point to where it is further out for the clutch? I have to pull my clutch lever almost all the way to the bar even though I have the lever positioned very far forward. So far in fact, my finger has a hard time reaching it. Lol. Also, do you think this washer mod would provide similar results on the newer Betas?
@PrimalEnduro
@PrimalEnduro 5 лет назад
I've also got the 200rr and the MME lever and really don't like the feel. I would like to know if this mod works on the 200rr as well?
@internalbeats6870
@internalbeats6870 5 лет назад
@@PrimalEnduro That's hilarious you just made this comment. I was just looking at your list of videos to see if you've posted anything new on the 200 as you made this comment.. For the clutch pull on my 200, I had to bleed the crap out of the clutch using a vacuum pump from the slave cylinder nipple on the clutch cover. It made a world of difference. I was able to readjust my clutch lever back in so I can reach it. BTW, I have the ARC levers, and I am very satisfied with them.
@PrimalEnduro
@PrimalEnduro 5 лет назад
@@internalbeats6870 I Don't know if this could be your issue? I think this was fixed with late model 200's, but 2018 and early model 2019 125/200 clutch covers were known to have a defect in the casting causing them to leak fluid/air into the system. I believe the affected covers are the ones with the bleeder and the line right next to each other. Mine has the bleeder and line about 45 degrees apart.
@internalbeats6870
@internalbeats6870 4 года назад
Chris K sure did. I still have to pull the lever all the way to the grip. I wish there was a way to set the engagement point all the way out.
@paulocardoso2227
@paulocardoso2227 4 года назад
any updates? same bike, same problem with me
@rhyspedrick2226
@rhyspedrick2226 6 лет назад
. those springs are now compressed 1.2mm tighter than they were before provided the bolts reach the end of their travel making the clutch stiffer 'most likely you tightened to the same torque as before so the clutch is exactly the same just the bolts are not griping all the thread . . by your logic if you stack 10 washers on it would be even lighter . but in truth the springs would be so squashed there wouldn't be any travel left in them when you pull the clutch making it stiff as hell . seems to me to lessen the pre load you have to use bolts that are 1.2mm longer so the springs are more relaxed
@etackhelicopter
@etackhelicopter 6 лет назад
The washer fits inside the spring. The bolt head to spring mating surface, is recessed on the outside, where the spring makes contact, to center the spring. The bolt inner face to clutch basket surface, is designed to bottom out on the basket. When you add the washer, it sits inside the spring, essentially extending the bolt face guide for the spring. By doing so, it raises the recessed portion of the bolt, off the basket, by 1.2mm or however many washers you add. It's hard to see because the camera angle and lighting. As far as worry about threads, most nuts only contain 3-5 threads, there is plenty, and if it worries you, apply some blue locktite.
@dabtown5293
@dabtown5293 6 лет назад
Like Ernest said, your completely backwards on your logic.
@rgb5346
@rgb5346 4 года назад
Stiffer
@rocknraptor3195
@rocknraptor3195 Год назад
​@@rgb5346 NO!
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