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How to make an ADJUSTABLE Dry-Dropper System 

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Fishing with a dry-dropper can be a deadly technique under the right circumstances. It should definitely be in your tool bag whether you are euro nymphing or using more traditional fly fishing techniques.
One of the limitations is the nymph is at a fixed length. This can cause a problem when you encounter fish that are deeper or shallower.
He is a simple, quick way to make make an adjustable dry-dropper system. It allows you to slide your dry fly up and down your tippet to give you the perfect length.
Enjoy and tight lines!
Cory
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@Joe99363
@Joe99363 Год назад
When Cory talks people listen! Thanks Cory!!
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Haha-Appreciate it, Joe! Thanks so much for watching!
@williamblair2934
@williamblair2934 3 месяца назад
Cory, I like this. NW Flyfishing uses this with triple surgeon knots tied off at interval. Either works but I like your way to slide it up to your point of choice and let the fish pull it down to the stopper. Thanks for the pointers
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 3 месяца назад
Glad you like it, William. Good luck with it and thanks so much for watching!
@Dan-nj8du
@Dan-nj8du 10 месяцев назад
I've been fly fishing for over 50 years. Still learning... Thanks for a great tip!
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 10 месяцев назад
Me too, Dan. We can never stop! Thanks for watching and tight lines to you!
@jeffsmith.3516
@jeffsmith.3516 Год назад
Another great tip from the master! Thanks Cory!
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Haha-appreciate it!
@oldsmugglerflyfishing
@oldsmugglerflyfishing Год назад
Great tutorial. Thanks for sharing!
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Thanks so much. Appreciate you watching, Old Smuggler.
@blueridgeflyguy9551
@blueridgeflyguy9551 Год назад
Cory, you did it again! Your stuff is always on point and super helpful
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Glad it’s helpful, Mike. Hope you have been getting out. Tight lines to you!
@blueridgeflyguy9551
@blueridgeflyguy9551 Год назад
@@OldDominionTroutBum I have been averaging at least 1/week for over a year now! Was just up in State College PA with Domenick from Troutbitten and I told him about how much your videos and messages have helped me.
@Stevetkachuk2
@Stevetkachuk2 Год назад
Thanks Cory! As always, your gold nuggets of information are always on point 👏🏼😎
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
You are welcome, Steve. Glad it’s helpful!
@bradstrong4155
@bradstrong4155 Год назад
Another pearl. Thanks for sharing
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
Appreciate it, Brad! Thanks for watching.
@quantumXkyle
@quantumXkyle 2 месяца назад
So awesome. Love all your videos. They've helped me so much
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 2 месяца назад
Glad they are helpful. Really appreciate you watching.
@rayyeager204
@rayyeager204 11 месяцев назад
This is a fantastic video. Thanks so much for posting it. Incredibly useful. Can't wait to prep some of these set-ups and watch more of your videos.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
Thank you, Ray. Glad it is useful. Appreciate you watching the channel and good luck to you!
@alanwagner6068
@alanwagner6068 Год назад
Great tip/ trick for the varying depth dropper system. Thanks!
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
Appreciate you watching, Alan. Tight lines!
@kevinihintz
@kevinihintz Год назад
Great idea 😊 thanks for some great content
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Thanks, Kevin. Appreciate you watching!
@neilmcdaniel
@neilmcdaniel Год назад
Genius, going to try this ASAP . Thanks for the great content
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Appreciate you watching, Neil. Good luck to you!
@mrblueskynm3968
@mrblueskynm3968 4 месяца назад
This is genius! I'll be utilizing this system from now on.Thanks for all the other tidbits of information about dropper length, etc.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 4 месяца назад
Thank you, Mr. Blue Sky. Glad it was helpful. Appreciate you watching and tight lines to you!
@jeffreyt7177
@jeffreyt7177 10 месяцев назад
This is a great tip, thanks!!
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 10 месяцев назад
Thanks, Jeffrey! Good luck to you.
@mikeney5113
@mikeney5113 Год назад
Thanks Cory as always great information
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Sure thing, Mike. Thanks so much for watching. Tight lines to you.
@randaldull3074
@randaldull3074 Год назад
excellent video, thanks for sharing your experience. Great channel
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Thank you, Randall. Happy to help and appreciate you watching!
@xam1289
@xam1289 9 месяцев назад
That’s versatile-thanks for the video.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 9 месяцев назад
Good luck with it, Edge. Thanks for watching.
@rodc4334
@rodc4334 Год назад
Looks plenty simple. Will give it a go! Thanks much!
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Good luck to you and thanks for watching!
@kimmower6196
@kimmower6196 Год назад
Great video Cory a lots of good information like how you put that out for us to learn those technics for sure, helpful no doubt thanks
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Happy to help, Kim. Appreciate you watching!
@anthonyb1661
@anthonyb1661 Год назад
That’s a good 1, Cory. Like those easy in stream adjustments. Thanks for sharing.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Thanks, Anthony. Appreciate you watching!
@caihlen
@caihlen Год назад
Thanks Bruh. Solid.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Appreciate it, Ken. Thanks for watching.
@johnshand6176
@johnshand6176 Год назад
Excellent advice and much appreciated down under in NZ.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Glad it is helpful, John. Tight lines to you, Mate!
@michaelguarino1995
@michaelguarino1995 10 месяцев назад
This is a solid rigging tip! Thanks man!
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 10 месяцев назад
Appreciate it, Michael. Thanks for watching!
@jamesvernetti2146
@jamesvernetti2146 Год назад
Great idea I will definitely be trying this thanks
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Let me know how you do, James. Good luck to you!
@classiclobbyz5477
@classiclobbyz5477 11 месяцев назад
This might just be the game changer I was looking for, I’m definitely going to give this a shot. Thank you!
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
Glad you like it! Good luck to you and thanks for watching.
@anglermade
@anglermade Год назад
Great video!
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
Thanks so much!
@scottnock5241
@scottnock5241 Год назад
Great tip Cory!!!! I have never tried that, though about it .. I like that system I’d use that all the time!!!!
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Thanks, Scott! Appreciate it. Hope you have been getting out!
@warrior_227
@warrior_227 Год назад
Getting ready to try a hopper dropper. Awesome info as always. Can’t wait to give this a go and see how it works. Keep posting I’ll keep watching. Tight lines friend.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Let me know how you do. Good luck to you and thanks for watching! Tight Lines to you as well!
@warrior_227
@warrior_227 Год назад
Made it up to Pine Creek Wednesday. Didn’t have a fire day but didn’t do bad either. We need rain in the worst way. Finished the day out on Penns on my local stretch on top. Did fantastic.
@keng9064
@keng9064 Год назад
Great tip
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Thanks so much, Ken!
@Tjk186
@Tjk186 Год назад
Thanks a lot for sharing your system with us Cory...been looking for a reliable solution for adjustable dry-dropper river fishing for wild fish, specifically with smaller flies and tippet diameters...appreciate the simplicity and flexibility your system offers...and I know I can trust its effectiveness with hook-ups etc based on your own experience...very helpful as always.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Happy to share, TK. Hope the season has been good to you. Thanks so much for watching and tight lines, my friend!
@tightliningmd
@tightliningmd Год назад
Hey Cory, I am very interested in watching and seeing how this work. Keep up the great content. You have done a wonderful job with your channel over the years and are building something special, I hope you can see that. Tight lines my friend and hope to share a stream with you sometime.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
Really appreciate the kind words, Mike. Thanks for watching from the beginning. This will work great for you, especially when you are brookie fishing and a using a ton of dry-dropper. Hope this season has been good to you, my friend. And I’ll sure our paths will cross out on the stream. Tight lines to you, as well!
@robertclay5447
@robertclay5447 Год назад
Very handy -- thanks!
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Thanks for watching, Robert!
@8655JT
@8655JT Год назад
Awesome tip. I'm going to use it for my double nymph rigs as well. Will save me a ton of time on the water.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
It will definitely work on your double nymph rigs. Good luck to you and thanks for watching!
@darylwiliams-ek4mk
@darylwiliams-ek4mk 11 месяцев назад
Great advice cory thanks👍🛋
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
Appreciate you watching, Daryl. Tight lines to you.
@kennethsanders963
@kennethsanders963 4 месяца назад
I struggle at first but them I got a system going and now I've tied a dozen of them and I'll do like you and store them in my vest. Thanx for the tutorial .tight lines.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 4 месяца назад
Glad it was helpful, Kenneth. Good luck to you and tight lines!
@MrRourk
@MrRourk 3 месяца назад
Thats genius! Thank you.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 3 месяца назад
Glad it is helpful, Frederick. Tight lines to you.
@shutterfish
@shutterfish 11 месяцев назад
very clever. will try it next time🤙
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching, Kristian!
@sghitza1
@sghitza1 4 месяца назад
Awesome. That's my set up for euro nymph.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 4 месяца назад
Appreciate you watching, G!
@grantlaredo9795
@grantlaredo9795 2 месяца назад
Nice one, been looking for an easy way to do this, for long time!
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 2 месяца назад
Glad it was helpful, Grant. Tight lines to you!
@Jacob_Zartman
@Jacob_Zartman 9 месяцев назад
New to fly fishing, been having some success but this is going to be a game changer! It's been getting annoying clipping and retying knots on my dry droppers while I'm wading especially when it's windy, this is going to help tremendously! Thanks for the tips Cory, tight lines!
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 9 месяцев назад
Glad you have been having success, Jacob! And glad this is helpful. Continued success with your fly fishing journey. Tight lines to you!
@williamklein6749
@williamklein6749 Год назад
Thanks for this video ( and all your others). It's amazing how fly fishers get to the same place using different methods. I tie a tippet ring on the end of my dry- dropper hoppers and then it's easy to adjust the depth. Just clip off the old and tie in a new length of tippet and your ready. Starting in a couple of weeks I'll use this almost exclusively on small Western rivers and streams.
@martinhodell8465
@martinhodell8465 Год назад
you use a tippet ring in the fly? Or do I misunderstand? (at that point, why not tie off the bend?)
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Sounds like a good one, William. We can all learn from one another. It’s what makes this sport so great. Good luck to you!
@johnperryflyfishing
@johnperryflyfishing Месяц назад
Love learning from you1
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Месяц назад
Glad the videos are helpful, John. Thanks for watching!
@tlpoutdoorsman
@tlpoutdoorsman 11 месяцев назад
Fantastic vid.....
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
Thanks so much! Appreciate you watching!
@eyeintheskiesdavid9277
@eyeintheskiesdavid9277 11 месяцев назад
Really cool idea and easy to follow Cory thank's for sharing big like from me bud tight line's and catch you on the next video 🎣🤝👍
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
Thanks, David. Glad it’s helpful. Appreciate your comment and tight lines to you!
@noelslater822
@noelslater822 Год назад
New Sub here. Loved this! Very helpful idea! Thank you!
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Appreciate the sub, Noel! Good luck to you and thanks for watching!
@mikekuczynski1552
@mikekuczynski1552 Год назад
Nice , I also use this as a drop shot rig weight on bottom flies above easy to change tags when they get to short . Thanks for sharing.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
It’s does work great like that as well, Mike. Appreciate you watching!
@WildBlueDiscovery
@WildBlueDiscovery Год назад
Nice job Cory. I've used the loop but never thought of sliding it up as an adjustable dropper. Dang...we need rain! Tightlines!
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
Thank you, Craig. Appreciate you watching. And YES-we need some rain bad! Tight lines, my friend!
@rolandeggers7764
@rolandeggers7764 Год назад
Excellent! For your next instructional video, the lit cigar would be a nice touch. Lol.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Haha-I just might do that, Roland! Appreciate you watching.
@patches152
@patches152 Год назад
I just recently switched to that c&f pack also, loving it so far. I replaced the neck strap with Paracord and foam from another old lanyard for better comfort
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
I’ve been using it a lot this spring and loving it, as well. So nice to go so light on the stream. Sound like a nice idea with the neck strap. Appreciate you watching.
@patches152
@patches152 Год назад
@@OldDominionTroutBum i've seen a few spanish and french comp guys who use this chest box too, and they've found interesting ways to rig it with the back panel from umpqua, W&J, and one even made a back pocket out of the new patagonia stealth work station. i'm gonna give the chest box & lumbar pack a try this summer for wet wading, when i don't need to carry extra layers,
@douglasjrhodes
@douglasjrhodes Год назад
Cool, nice to see someone else is doing this besides me. I pre-tie them and place them in medicine pill pouches just like when you pull out a new leader making very small loops to keep the single dropper together placing about 10 in a pill pouch. 😉
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
Excellent idea, Douglas! Appreciate you watching and tight lines to you!
@soundbwoikilla764
@soundbwoikilla764 Год назад
I was literally fishing yesterday wishing for a simple and reliable adjustable dry/dropper rig. I rarely fish dry/droppers because of the depth variability issues you describe, and when I do I struggle with dialing in a fixed depth for my nymph. I'm gonna give this shot next time.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Glad you found this. Good luck with this and let me know how you do. Tight lines to you!
@johnperryflyfishing
@johnperryflyfishing Месяц назад
Awesome!!!
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Месяц назад
Thanks, John!
@seribas
@seribas 11 месяцев назад
I’ve never even seen 7x. Good stuff thanks
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
Oh yes. Every top manufacture of tippet has 7x. Appreciate you watching.
@KyleBanser-rb1kx
@KyleBanser-rb1kx Год назад
I use this system for steelhead with weight on the bottom and fly on the tag and the loop lands all of them. I also keep my tags in a used plastic extra gum containers keeps them neat. Thanks for expanding my knowledge, great idea.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Perfect testimony on how they hold, Kyle. And the gum containers are a great idea. Thanks for watching!
@mikessim5316
@mikessim5316 7 месяцев назад
You have helped me understand hopper dropper rigs and especially the adjustable hopper. Thankyou Mike USAF Ret
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 7 месяцев назад
Glad it is helpful, Mike. Thank you for your service!!
@RobJones-rm5qd
@RobJones-rm5qd 11 месяцев назад
First, I am a big fan, thank you for the great content. With making fishing easier, Dr. Paul Gaskell teaches a ladder leader, which is a series of figure 8 knots that you tie in several places in the point or main line. So you can move your tags wherever you need. I have been using this and moving tags around is fast from a foot of water to four. The plus is that the perfection loop spins on the main line also making for less unwanted knots
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
Appreciate you being a fan, Rob. That sounds like a fantastic way. That’s the great thing about this sport, we can learn so much from one another. Thanks so much for watching and tight lines to you.
@patrickmccambridge
@patrickmccambridge 7 месяцев назад
Hi Rob. Can you kindly post the ladder video? I could not locate it. Thanks in advance.
@richsmidtke119
@richsmidtke119 11 месяцев назад
Very informative video. Thank you but I would like to see you more on the streams. God bless great job.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
Thank you, Rich! Perhaps one day, we will see one another. Tight lines to you!
@flyanorak
@flyanorak Год назад
Great stuff...maybe for a "short" but I would love to see how your do a Davy on stream. Thanks as always!!
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Thanks so much! Here is a great video on the Davy: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--NTVZAZ0xQA.html Appreciate you watching!
@flyanorak
@flyanorak Год назад
@@OldDominionTroutBum thanks. The mechanics of the knot I get but with fine tippet on-stream somehow another game. Guess I need plunge style hackle pliers…
@joshuawilliams1893
@joshuawilliams1893 3 дня назад
Going to try the crap out of this next time I go! I am in love with a dry dropper for the summer.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 2 дня назад
Haha-Good luck to you, Joshua! It is a fun way to fish. Appreciate you watching!
@joshuawilliams1893
@joshuawilliams1893 2 дня назад
@@OldDominionTroutBum what about a prusik knot and some leader tied to it? Do you think that might work?
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 2 дня назад
@@joshuawilliams1893 it certainly could work-but I do prefer the small perfection.
@newflyrod1
@newflyrod1 Год назад
Great insight 👍what size tippet do you premake your perfection loops with. Thank you for sharing your talents 🪰
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Appreciate it! I tied them in whatever size tippet I’ll be using that day. Normally 6x. Thanks for watching!
@cheinemann_805
@cheinemann_805 18 дней назад
Love this...the best ideas are the simplest and this is genius, Cory. Thanks for sharing your expertise. Question fro you: What's your recommendation for tippet when making a bunch of these perfection loop dry fly lines to take with me? Would using my 2lb or 4lb trout mono line work? Or, should I make them with a 3, 4, or 5X tippet? Thanks again...gonna put this in play this weekend up on the Upper Owens River.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 17 дней назад
Thanks so much, Chris! I always match it to the same size tippet I am using. You can certainly use 2lb or 4lb test. Good luck to you and just make sure you keep your dry fly high and dry. Once they get waterlogged, the surface wants to "grab" it and pull it down when you take it out. Tight lines to you!
@Journal_Of_A_Troutbum
@Journal_Of_A_Troutbum Год назад
Hi. Great video. I have used this solution as well but the issue I’ve been having is the dry fly moves when I cast. What kind of tippet material are you using?
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
It may move every now and then-mostly due to the cast being “forced” or if your fly is super wind resistant. I use a lot of CDC flies and they are more aerodynamic. Just try to keep your cast nice and smooth/easy. Also, when your fly starts to submerge, the water will grab it and pull it down. The tippet I use is Cortland Ultra Premium. Hope this helps and good luck to you.
@brooktoriverflyfishing
@brooktoriverflyfishing Месяц назад
Hey Cory! Cool idea! Lack of adjustability is the main reason why I will fish an indicator instead of a dry fly in some of these situations. This obviously solves that which is super cool. I'm wondering if you have tried doing a similar thing as this using a uni knot, similar to what you would do when adding a backing barrel? They are adjustable and you could leave a tag for the dry fly. I'm guessing it would be kind of hard to get the tension right with fine tippet compared to your method. I might give it a try and see what happens. Thanks for sharing.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Месяц назад
Hey Eric. I don't like using the uni because it is a little too tight for lighter tippet. When you slide it up and down, it will kink up your tippet. The perfection loop is easier on it. This will definitely work for you. Just make sure you keep your dry fly nice and dry. If it gets a little wet and sinks, the surface will "grab" it and want to pull it down. Good luck to you and I appreciate you watching!
@wadejrshadow1234
@wadejrshadow1234 11 месяцев назад
Question for ya , have you ever had any issues with hook ups on the dry . Does the perfection loop ever loosen on the line and lead to a softer hook set because of the loop sliding down the line until it hits that stopper knot or has that not been a problem ? Great video ! And I can’t wait to give this system a go . Cheers
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
Chris, I have no problem with hook ups. The tension created from the surface and the rod hook set are all you need. On a side note, every now and then the dropper will slide if it partially submerged and the water "grabs" it and pulls it down when you lift it out of the water. Make sure your dry is riding high and you will be fine. Good luck and thanks for watching. Tight lines.
@fabulousrobert6607
@fabulousrobert6607 Год назад
I like the way think 🤔👌🏼
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Appreciate it, Robert!
@dsmith8564
@dsmith8564 4 месяца назад
Thanks
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 4 месяца назад
Appreciate you watching.
@douglasrandall6737
@douglasrandall6737 11 месяцев назад
Nice 💥
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
Thanks, Douglas!
@TroutbumofWV
@TroutbumofWV 3 месяца назад
thank you
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 3 месяца назад
Happy to help.
@williamwojcieszek4320
@williamwojcieszek4320 2 месяца назад
Great tip! If you are using a dry dropper in a medium sized stream that you are fishing for the first time, what is your go-to leader/tippet system? 9’ 4x with 12” of 5x so total of 10’? Thx
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 2 месяца назад
Thanks, William! I use my long euro leader when fishing dry-dropper. I find it more effective when fishing small to medium-sized streams. If you watch some of my dry-dropper videos, I talk about my leader. I have also done a Micro leader video. Hope this helps. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_LsHADwel28.htmlsi=mAWspefjokc-92OH
@Wendygaechter
@Wendygaechter 11 месяцев назад
What leader formula do you like for this rig? And can a tippet ring act as a stopper for the sliding loop instead of a knot? Thanks. Great idea!
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
Wendy, I use a micro leader most of the time. You can see it here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_LsHADwel28.html And yes-you can use a tippet ring for the stopper. Thanks so much for watching. Tight lines!
@BP-1988
@BP-1988 Год назад
Thanks for the idea Cory. Will the sliding dropper for the dry fly affect a hook set?
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
It doesn’t affect it at all, BP. You will still have enough tension when you set the hook and drive it home, especially if you use barbless hooks.
@BP-1988
@BP-1988 Год назад
@@OldDominionTroutBum Thanks for the info. I'll have to try you setup on my next trip. The wild trout rivers where I fish here in California, it's mostly artificial and barbless which I only tie anyway.
@menard404
@menard404 11 месяцев назад
Great video. Could this also be used for a double nymph rig?
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
Thanks, Michael. Absolutely you can do it for a double nymph rig.
@rickconyers5873
@rickconyers5873 Год назад
Nice video bud! Which model c&f pack is that you’re using?
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Thanks Rick. It’s the Large C&F chest pack. Appreciate you watching!
@holyworrier
@holyworrier 8 месяцев назад
The length of my dropper doesn't seem to matter. Snarls haunt me. Love the moveable tags. After giving a lot of thought to the dry dropper issue, I've drawn from a few sources, you included, and worked out a simple fly that I think may do the trick. Thinly dubbed abdomen, deer hair wing, a second wing of several preened cul de canard feather tips, and a splash of hot pink filament in front. Thin wire long #14. Have you fished any of the spring-fed streams in the Missouri Ozarks? Enormous springs, some of them
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 8 месяцев назад
Sounds like a winner to me, Larry. I have not fished the Ozarks. So many places to go, so little time!
@dmergen06
@dmergen06 8 месяцев назад
This is a genius life hack. Thank you for the exceptional explanation. This has me wondering if you’ve tried to tie in the triple surgeon ‘stopper knots’ every 6-12 inche”s and remove and reattach tag to the different sections to reduce the slippage amount of the dry along the line? Not as convenient as just occasionally resliding the dry back to the desired position, but would keep the dry in a relatively smaller section of slippage zone. Would the added knots along the line adversely affect the action of the presentaion upon laying down the line in the cast? Also, have you experimented with the bottom ‘stopper knot’ actually being the smallest of tippet rings leading to change over of the dropper section quicker as dropper section shortens with change of dropper fly? Anyway, love the simple ingenuity and thank you for sharing.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 8 месяцев назад
Thank you, Daniel. Glad it is helpful. You will have to readjust every now and then because you will have slippage (Which is normal). The slippage usually comes from your dry becoming water logged, then the surface "grabs" it when you lift to cast. As long as your dry sits up high and dry, it is usually good. That being said, your idea of knots every 6 inches or so will work for you-it won't affect the presentation. I haven't tried a tippet ring, but I'm sure that would work as well. Hope this helps. Thanks so much for watching.
@drbtrava
@drbtrava 3 месяца назад
Never mind found it , again thank you
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 3 месяца назад
Glad you found it!
@rjf1877
@rjf1877 9 месяцев назад
Cory, great suggestion ! I've used the double surgeon stopper for quite a while, but I didn't realize that a perfection loop used directly on tippet would actually keep the dry fly in position. Any problem with this plan using 5x flouro ?
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 9 месяцев назад
RJF, you can use whatever size tippet you prefer. You just have to make sure your dry stays nice and dry and riding high. Every now and then you will have to slide it back into place because once your dry gets waterlogged, the surface will want to "grab" it and pull it down.
@davidgross6903
@davidgross6903 Год назад
I Love the adjustable dry dropper concept, it's a great idea, and thank you for sharing it. My main fear and concern using it would be misssed hook sets on the dry due to the ability of the perfection loop to slide down the line. Has that happened to you, what is your experience?
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
David, I haven’t noticed missed takes. When you set the hook, there will still be enough tension created to drive your hook home, especially if you are using barbless. Hope this helps and appreciate you watching.
@Langhorstiness
@Langhorstiness 11 месяцев назад
Rock climbers use a similar knot for sliding/gripping knots for ascending ropes called "prusik" knots. It's basically like this except with an extra wrap around the standing line. When the lateral tension is applied, the knot clenches the loops around the standing line and it holds in place. If this concept is reliable enough for climbers to ascend ropes, it'll hold a trout all the same.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
Excellent example. Appreciate you watching and commenting.
@jonhart-dj7fn
@jonhart-dj7fn 9 месяцев назад
Corey like this and especially the last advice three to four inches max.. question .. what about in example the tandems ( in example Sott from Pa @woods uses) like what's actually better and for which situations besides depth ,, what about fast and slow water situations for tandems tia hope all is well going to west branch eb delaware upper branches this week
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 9 месяцев назад
Jon, I have never been a fan of tying off the hook bend or hook eye. Your hook up/catch ratio drops. I’ve always like a dropper tag for any type of water. Thanks for watching.
@jonhart-dj7fn
@jonhart-dj7fn 9 месяцев назад
@@OldDominionTroutBum makes sense.. I'm going to try this versatile adjustment method .. understand it's easy too
@SamKim-cx6it
@SamKim-cx6it 4 дня назад
Thanks Cory for your videos, been binge watching your content just subscribed! Two questions 1. On a traditional fly like does the dry fly on a tag reduce strike detection? 2. Any tips on preventing tangles when casting on traditional fly line when using dry off the tag?
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 21 час назад
Appreciate you binge watching, Sam! The tag doesn’t reduce strike detection at all. You will see plenty. To reduce tangles, you have to slow the cast down and keep it in control. I will add, casting a traditional line with this system can cause your fly to slip back down because of the force of the cast, especially when lifting it out of the water because the surface will “grab” it. So keep it nice and easy. Hope this helps. Thanks for the sub!
@joeygavadeels2784
@joeygavadeels2784 Год назад
Wow I just learned a lot watching this, so much I'll need to watch it a couple times to digest. Just a Philly native hack here who fishes upstate Pocono & Allegheny mountain areas since a teenager with both spin & fly. I basically work pools upstream stripping wooly buggers/worms, streamers & muddlers on 3 ft. of 4 lb. test that I cut tied to a metal loop connector. I'm only targeting aggressive fish, then I move on to the next pool. I have no patience for the match-the-hatch technique which is probably my ultimate downfall. Shame on me. LOL.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
Joey, everyone has their way that makes them happy. That's all that matters! You fish in some great area. Appreciate you watching and good luck to you!
@AbraamSant
@AbraamSant 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video. Do you find that the dryfly/tag will slide down to the knot below when false casting?
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
Abraam, it will slide occasionally and you will have to readjust. But it’s due to 2 things. When you are casting “hard” or when your dry becomes partially submerged and the surface grabs it. Just make nice and easy casts and make sure your dry is riding high and dry. Appreciate you watching.
@AbraamSant
@AbraamSant 11 месяцев назад
@@OldDominionTroutBum - Makes sense. Thanks for the tip. Will try it out this weekend. 👍
@martinhodell8465
@martinhodell8465 Год назад
What's the advantage over just tying a clinch knot around the tippet? Does the loop method hold the dry's position better? Is it stronger? Or something else?
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Martin, I’m not a fan of the clinch for a couple of reasons. 1. When you slide it up and down, it kinks up your main line pretty bad because it is too tight too it. And 2. When you have to cut it off to put a new one on, it’s hard because the knot is tight to the main line. Hope this helps.
@geoffblakesley2211
@geoffblakesley2211 Год назад
Thanks. Great idea. Just one question. After you slide up your dropper when moving into deeper water why don't you slide your surgeons know stub up with it ?
@jameshill8548
@jameshill8548 Год назад
The surgeons knot is a permanent knot, it connects 2 lines together like when adding tippet to your leader.
@geoffblakesley2211
@geoffblakesley2211 Год назад
@@jameshill8548 Doh ! Of course.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Haha. Appreciate y’all watching!
@rhonda837
@rhonda837 2 месяца назад
we used to bait rig our spinning rods like that when we were kids.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 2 месяца назад
Very cool, Rhonda. Appreciate you watching.
@scottnovak4303
@scottnovak4303 11 месяцев назад
Hey Cory, great video! I understood the whole thing except how you ‘looped in’ the perfection loop to the straight piece of tippet. Can you clarify how you did that? Thanks!
@daveschlom4033
@daveschlom4033 11 месяцев назад
Same here. I hope he answers this question.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
Scott-take the perfection loop piece and lay it behind your main leader (like a cross). Now take then end of the tag and cross it in front of your main leader and put it through the loop. Now pull tight. Hope this helps.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
Dave-see below....
@drbtrava
@drbtrava 4 месяца назад
Very good idea, but the tag your doung looks larger then 5 or 6 x, was it for demonstration purpose for video?
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 4 месяца назад
It was for demonstration in the video. But you want to start out with 6 inches or so because it is easier to work with. You can always trim to size. Appreciate you watching.
@evangeloskatsaros3645
@evangeloskatsaros3645 Год назад
Hi, could you please create a video about your fly line? If you have a special nymph line, could you also demonstrate the length of the leader and sighter you use?
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
Here is a video on my setup: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MQU6YlWw8yY.html It's also in the description. Hope this helps and thanks for watching.
@Thespanglerangler
@Thespanglerangler 9 месяцев назад
Do you think tying the tag on with a clinch knot would be much different that the loop?
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 9 месяцев назад
Jason, the reason I don't like the clinch is the knot cinches down too tight and it's harder to move. It ends up "kinking" up the line when you move it. The perfection loop is much easier on your tippet and easier to move. You have to re-adjust it every now and then when the water grabs your dry-but it really works great. Hope this helps.
@c00lbeaner
@c00lbeaner Год назад
Hey O D, is this on your euro set up or a traditional flyrod with a floating line set up? Thank you sir!
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
You can do it on a traditional setup, but you will be constantly readjusting the dry as the water will "grab" it and pull it down the leader when you pull it out of the water to cast. It really is best on a euro set up, because most of your leader is off the water and the casts are more delicate. You will have to adjust it every now and then, but a lot less with a euro setup. Hope this helps.
@lornehargis2614
@lornehargis2614 2 месяца назад
What size tippet do you use for the perfection loop? 4x or maybe 3x to make it stand off the main tippet? Thx....good tip.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 2 месяца назад
Lorne, I use anywhere from 5x-7x (most of the time 6-7x). The same size I am fishing with. Appreciate you watching.
@lornehargis2614
@lornehargis2614 2 месяца назад
Thank you
@ryantherock7664
@ryantherock7664 2 месяца назад
Hi Cory why do you prefer the dry on a tag as opposed to the nymph being attached to the hook bend in a dry dropper rig?
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 2 месяца назад
Ryan, I like it on the tag for multiple reasons. 1. To have it adjustable it needs to be on a tag. 2. Your fly moves more freely by itself. 3. There isn't any line in the way that can cause a missed fish. 4. When you change your dry, you don't have to tie two knots. 5. If you don't use an adjustable system, you can change really quick from a double nymph rig. Hope this helps.
@daver1959
@daver1959 Год назад
If I want to fish deeper and I move the dry fly perfection loop up 8-12”, is it going to stay there after several casts and drifts or is it going to start sliding down? After I slide it up the line do I need to tighten the perfection loop dropper?
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
David, you will have to readjust every now and then if you force your cast or if the dry becomes water logged or submerged (the water grabs it and the force will move it). Once you tighten the loop the first time it will be good to go. Just make sure you wet the line before sliding it. If not, the friction will kink your line. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching.
@fieldsman3307
@fieldsman3307 Год назад
hi , my problem is sinking dry and my max nymph is 3mm tungsten bead but whatever dry I use always gets pulled under so open to ideas to prevent that, cheers
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
I would say that your dry isn't buoyant enough. CDC flies are excellent flies to suspend nymphs. Also, any deer hair flies are as well. Here is a great fly for dry-dropper: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MQU6YlWw8yY.html Hope this helps.
@shawnevans4662
@shawnevans4662 9 месяцев назад
Do you ever have issues with friction cutting your flouro line when the perfection loop slips down to the triple surgeons knot?
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 9 месяцев назад
I don’t, Shawn. Make sure you wet it before you slide it. When a fish hits it-it’s already wet, so it is good as well.
@nicholasjones1027
@nicholasjones1027 2 месяца назад
Do you not run into problems with the dry hookset if you have to make up for an extra foot of slide? And when tension of a fish is on that dry does it not grab and fray the line as its sliding to the stopper?
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 2 месяца назад
I don't, Nicholas. There is enough tension from the hookset to drive the hook. I set it like any other strike. Also, the line is wet, so nothing happens to the line when it slides. If you slide your fly up and down, you do need to make sure the leader is wet. Hope this helps.
@bentpolski
@bentpolski Год назад
Get Video Cory. What CFO Reel is that behind You? Hardy Made or American.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum Год назад
Thanks, Thomas! The CFO is American made.
@EatShredSleep87
@EatShredSleep87 4 месяца назад
A perfection loop is a fixed loop so how are you even cinching it down such that it doesn’t slip over the TSK? I was thinking that you could use an Orvis knot which can be cinched down and backed off as needed. You might not even need a surgeons if you use this knot. If a trout takes the dry, it will for sure slide down the tippet even though it’s been cinched down however it should stop at the nymph. Do you think this would be a problem. I’m obviously going to run the experiment but Im interested in your take.
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 4 месяца назад
You will just cinch it to the leader, like I did in the video. It will always stop at the surgeon's knot when a trout grabs it. I have never had a problem with it-I use it all of the time for light dry-dropper work. You can try your way (after all that's how we find out new ways of doing things). Personally, I think the line will get too kinked up after it slides all the way down to the nymph. Hope this helps and thanks for watching.
@Rob-Erto
@Rob-Erto 11 месяцев назад
I can't believe no one said 'that's what she said'..... so there, I've said it. Also, this is a fantastic idea! Thank you sir
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 11 месяцев назад
HAHA! Love a good Michael Scott reference! Appreciate you watching, Rob. Tight lines to you.
@Rob-Erto
@Rob-Erto 11 месяцев назад
@@OldDominionTroutBum I'm glad you got the reference Corey! Funny stuff right there 👍
@TroutbumofWV
@TroutbumofWV 2 месяца назад
I might have missed it but when you are dry dropping on your euro rig with sighter material, how much tippet do you have before your surgeons knot?
@OldDominionTroutBum
@OldDominionTroutBum 2 месяца назад
Bubba- I usually have 3-4 ft to the tippet knot. Then I’ll usually start with 18” below the knot.
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