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How to Make Conan's Atlantean Sword Better? 

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@notfeedynotlazy
@notfeedynotlazy 4 года назад
About the "look at him, he's so strong, he can wield a heavy sword no problem" thing, and for the record, Arnold _complained_ about the sword's weight.
@hookedblades6471
@hookedblades6471 2 года назад
Yeah! Why should Arnold have to use such a light sword! He's gonna get out of shape! Note: I am joking.
@rickarda9232
@rickarda9232 2 месяца назад
he did alot of swordfighting taught classes before the film(which you can tell) so he was probably used to more practical swords from those classes.
@notfeedynotlazy
@notfeedynotlazy 2 месяца назад
@@rickarda9232 plus, the OG Conan sword is (in)famously well-made but horribly designed, heavy, cumbersome and illbalanced. I've handled a replica of the original and it's like handling a steel bar, not like handling a sword. It was made to look impressive, not to be functional. And it shows. Still don't want one of these in my collection - want two, at least.
@unpopularspirits829
@unpopularspirits829 7 лет назад
It wasn't my fault officer, the sword wants to move, it wants BLOOD!
@dearcastiel4667
@dearcastiel4667 7 лет назад
Actually happenned to me in during a D&D cession. I was unknowingly weilding a sentient vampiric sword and it took over my mind for a moment, my character murdered a guy in the middle of the street and then I had to explain what happenned to the guard. I attacked them and my party members helped me, then I blamed it on the sword.
@spookyspecter2864
@spookyspecter2864 7 лет назад
Dear Castiel Fuckin' Craven Edge, am I right?
@sherrigofdenmark2823
@sherrigofdenmark2823 7 лет назад
D&D is great, I pretty much broke the game by seducing everything the game master threw in our path, everybody hated me because my character was so stupidly op.
@Henchman_Holding_Wrench
@Henchman_Holding_Wrench 7 лет назад
It will not return to its sheath until it has spilt blood
@lordmurderkitten6098
@lordmurderkitten6098 7 лет назад
People don't kill people, swords that crave the blood and innards of your enemies do.
@SomethingRandomInc
@SomethingRandomInc 7 лет назад
It's probably short so they could keep the whole sword in the frame and get closer shots.
@amassasa
@amassasa 7 лет назад
interesting thought
@monkeypandatank
@monkeypandatank 7 лет назад
I had the exact same thought. It's the only way it makes sense to me.
@andrewstorey8584
@andrewstorey8584 7 лет назад
Something Random Inc. that is part of the reason but the other part is the weight. I believe Arnold Schwarzenegger already thought it was really heavy as that version of the sword so they kept it short. I seen this in some other weapon channels. sorry can't be more helpful for my sources on that.
@mithshude
@mithshude 7 лет назад
but why wouldnt they just make it thinner in that case?
@SomethingRandomInc
@SomethingRandomInc 7 лет назад
If Arnold Schwarzenegger thought it was heavy, it must've been lol.
@WVMADMAN1
@WVMADMAN1 7 лет назад
Remember where he found the atlantean sword, it was intended as a giant's short sword not a human's long sword, thus the odd proportions.But on a side note, could you imagine trying to block that thing if the wielder was strong enough to use it properly!
@citizeneveryman6798
@citizeneveryman6798 7 лет назад
WVMADMAN1 exactly
@LaughingOwlKiller
@LaughingOwlKiller 7 лет назад
why block it when you can redirect the momentum of the less nimble blade and make him overextend
@Slender_Man_186
@Slender_Man_186 7 лет назад
+LaughingOwlKiller exactly. Have it roll over to you side when blocking it to redirect the blunt force of the attack.
@roguishpaladin
@roguishpaladin 7 лет назад
It's also worth noting that the sword dimensions hearken to bronze and iron age designs, rather that medieval sword technology. If you compare it to scaled-up weapons from that period, it's just about right. I think the blade thickness suggestion is an interesting idea, though.
@CreeperKiller666
@CreeperKiller666 7 лет назад
@roguishpaladin: Precisely! Many real-world late Bronze age and early Iron Age swords were rather short. The fictional time and place in which Conan exists is heavily modeled on those time periods. Longer swords became more popular in the late parts of the iron age and in the early medieval period. Thematically, Conan should probably not have a greatsword, katana, kriegsmesser, claymore, or zwiehander, but rather a Kopesh, Gladius, Jian, or other short type of sword.
@Dezerado
@Dezerado 7 лет назад
Conan was my hero growing up... my dad read the stories and comics when he was young... and a lot of reverence was passed on to me... probably why I have such a respect for steel weapons
@freakydeke1
@freakydeke1 7 лет назад
still got most of my conan stuff from the 70s and frazettas on walls of living room
@sherrigofdenmark2823
@sherrigofdenmark2823 7 лет назад
My father introduced me to Conan comics as well, Robert E. Howard was a genius and created such a beautifully savage world.
@indianmartialartsresearchg9728
I've still got the action figure!
@DJDocsVideos
@DJDocsVideos 7 лет назад
It's good fun but all the racism in Robert E. Howard's work feels very dated these days.
@krisztianpovazson4535
@krisztianpovazson4535 7 лет назад
+DJ Doc's Videos Aye, its racism should be updated to modern standards, like rambling about the evil privilege magic of Cishet White Men.
@dalawdog
@dalawdog 6 лет назад
But what is steel, compared to the hand that wields it.
@oz_jones
@oz_jones 6 лет назад
In this case, a very tired hand.
@ericward8459
@ericward8459 6 лет назад
What is the hand compared to the will that compels it?
@battleburger
@battleburger 5 лет назад
DOOM, DOOM, DOOM
@MrDmitriRavenoff
@MrDmitriRavenoff 7 лет назад
A fantasy sword he actually likes? Holy crow!
@ricardocastillo5485
@ricardocastillo5485 4 года назад
Great video, but as I've said before, I think the reason it was compact is because Conan was a thief and adventurer in the movie, not a soldier going into battle. He's running down tunnels, scaling the walls of a tower, climbing down ropes and swimming moats as much as fighting. The sword was a compromise, kinda like a concealed carry pistol.
@JoJoRogain
@JoJoRogain Год назад
More like a carbine loaded with .50 Beowulf, at only 10 rounds. Perfect for Arnie to concussively knock out armored guards who was the only actor on set able to swing the heavy sword effectively
@GholaTleilaxu
@GholaTleilaxu Месяц назад
I remember Conan fighting his enemies, with a metal sword or with bare flesh fists. I don't remember Conan running down tunnels like a rat.
@jasondoe2596
@jasondoe2596 7 лет назад
• _reads title_ • _mumbles_ "Best. Soundtrack. Ever" • _goes on to watch video_
@fsmoura
@fsmoura 7 лет назад
best soundtrack ever confirmed
@Adagamante
@Adagamante 7 лет назад
It's one of the few movies I'd recommend on the soundtrack alone.
@HeadCannonPrime
@HeadCannonPrime 7 лет назад
I listen to the soundtrack more than I have seen the movie. I can actually see the scenes in my head while listening to it.
@LordJTE
@LordJTE 7 лет назад
Jason Doe adds pommel meme
@1Kapuchu100
@1Kapuchu100 7 лет назад
Plot twist: hollow pommels were used to transport beer during long marches.
@MrAranton
@MrAranton 7 лет назад
No: It's a weapon to fight like with like; hollow pommels to end rightly the hollow headed...
@whyjay9959
@whyjay9959 7 лет назад
It's a pretty small space for beer. Maybe it was something stronger... *Unscrews pommel to end the day rightly*
@handsomebrick
@handsomebrick 7 лет назад
something to end your consciousness rightly
@geusetelli
@geusetelli 7 лет назад
Nothing beats a good drink after a hard day's war i say
@bobgreen6311
@bobgreen6311 7 лет назад
Hollow pommels are for hollow knights...
@danthemandoris
@danthemandoris 7 лет назад
I think a big reason why they made it so short is that it helps Conan look even bigger. The audience probably presumes it's a normal length sword and that he just dwarfs it, it adds to the illusion that he's a giant barbarian.
@jerrynorton1080
@jerrynorton1080 21 день назад
Thats why Groo has that pair of shoto?
@DeusNukum
@DeusNukum 6 лет назад
First, I love your channel, enjoyed this video, and like the designs you showed. The thing about Conan is that he is represented as having oppressive strength. Which is not to say, "look at him, he can swing a heavy sword." It is to say that, a big man with a heavy object crushes everything. It would be more tiring for him to swing, yes, but also more tiring to defend against, and Conan is not just strong, but has stamina to boot. Basically Beowulf. Additionally, he did not just fight people, he fought beasts of great size. If you want to crack the skull of a giant serpent's, troll, or a golem made of stone created by a weaver of the dark arts, you need a lot of energy, and a heavy sword does that. Typical sword use is not how Conan uses a sword, not always. I know you are a big proponent of sharp swords, and I am too, but Conan needs a tool that can fight off creatures beyond the scope of your typical human vs. human fight, and for that there is the Atlantian sword.
@JohnDowl
@JohnDowl 7 лет назад
@Skallagrim: You should really work as a movie consultant!
@InSanic13
@InSanic13 7 лет назад
But RU-vid is his job, so we would get far fewer videos...
@rickau
@rickau 7 лет назад
There are full blow companies which already make historically accurate and or custom weapons/props for film/tv and they do so on a regular basis. Where I find historians are usually "ignored" is whether something is accurate for the time period (think Braveheart with the kilts being 200-ish years early, i think). Sometimes this is a legitimate oversight and other times they know it is out of place but run with it as what should be used is aesthetically displeasing...
@DJDocsVideos
@DJDocsVideos 7 лет назад
No one ever listens to consultants ask the guys and lady who worked on "Kingdom of Heavens"
@Nurk0m0rath
@Nurk0m0rath 7 лет назад
I forget the name of the movie but I've heard that in the film where the concept of the knight being winched onto his horse first appeared, the historical consultant begged the director not to do it. But they did it anyway. And it became the equivalent of a meme, copied from movie to movie until a significant part of the movie-going population was convinced that it was historical, and it took pretty thorough debunking to break that stereotype. Some people still think armor is that heavy, and the theme survives and thrives in online games and RPGs. For a more modern portrayal, look at the show Vikings, where the vast majority of armor and clothing better fits the fantasy stereotype of vikings than the historical evidence of norse culture. And another point in braveheart where the historian was most likely ignored is in the ridiculous use of the shield wall. As far as I know, no army that ever formed a shield wall would break formation to rush the enemy headlong (much less to jump up and onto the enemy *formation's* weapons), and I'm pretty sure a historian would know that too. Movies made in a certain time period are ATROCIOUS at historical depictions, and I'm sure we can all name dozens of films that do this. Directors are getting better in this regard, probably because the internet means people can do their own research from home so film companies are under more pressure to get things right, but there are still a lot of examples where history was completely ignored in favor of the stereotype and general "coolness."
@joshm3484
@joshm3484 7 лет назад
Braveheart? The story of William Wallace, the rich Scottish noble and knight who lived about 100 years before claymores became common? Yep, definitely historically accurate.
@whyjay9959
@whyjay9959 7 лет назад
The greatsword is made of 15th century steel; I assume the Atlantean sword is also inspired by the short and chunky swords of the bronze and iron age, but I don't think even they were this heavy, and the Atlantean sword is implied to be relatively good steel.
@Thane36425
@Thane36425 7 лет назад
Back in the day there were programs about this movie, or ones it was mentioned on. They said that the sword was very heavy even compared to other ones in the movie and that Arnold was the only one who could use it. Even then it wasn't easy for him. This is probably true since if you watch, he does seem to be a little slow with it. Perhaps that is part because he's having trouble moving it and part putting too much momentum into that thing would be dangerous for the stuntmen he was fighting, and part the strain it would be to stop it.
@SuperFunkmachine
@SuperFunkmachine 7 лет назад
So Sven-Ole Thorsen, Denmark's Strongest Man (83) and Europe's 10th Strongest Man (82) is a weakling?
@buttsufancypantsu1644
@buttsufancypantsu1644 7 лет назад
I wonder if Skall has come to regret making that video about ending people rightly yet. That's not to say I regret it, the knowledge obtained from that video has saved my life on numerous occasions since.
@cuachogaidh
@cuachogaidh 7 лет назад
buttsu fancypantsu I regret it. 90% of the comments, regardless of topic, are about pommels. it passed up annoying a long time ago.
@buttsufancypantsu1644
@buttsufancypantsu1644 7 лет назад
Yeah, it's gotten me to the point where I want to end them rightly.
@Tentegen
@Tentegen 7 лет назад
buttsu fancypantsu I still enjoy the comments. it's nice to know that he has a community big enough and dedicated to continue memes only they know about. that's pretty cool. I've always wondered what video everyone gets the pommel jokes from, seeing how I've been subscribed for almost a year but haven't seen Skall mention anything of the sort about "ending them rightly" and any extreme fighting situation reguarding using pommels.
@SoulmongerV2
@SoulmongerV2 7 лет назад
"End Him Rightly" - A bizarre tactic in a Medieval fighting manual (Gladiatoria MS KK5013)
@Mjolnir007
@Mjolnir007 7 лет назад
Its still the most beautiful sword ever.
@azuregriffin1116
@azuregriffin1116 7 лет назад
Na, the Master Sword is.
@firepower7017
@firepower7017 6 лет назад
Azure Griffin Not even close
@rollothewalker5535
@rollothewalker5535 4 года назад
Looks like a kitsch. It looks like it fucking escaped from china town. Ugly as fuck if you ask me.
@jackofastora8962
@jackofastora8962 3 года назад
@@rollothewalker5535 blade looks more beautiful then your sister mate
@CrniWuk
@CrniWuk 2 года назад
Says the Mjølnir.
@user-nm8vk7yd3b
@user-nm8vk7yd3b 6 лет назад
"Atlanean sword" is not а sword. "Atlanean sword" is а dagger. The Atlantic man had a height of 3-4 meters, therefore, his palm was the width of 2-2,5 times more than humans. The hilt of a "Atlantean sword" designed for one palm...the palm of the atlantic man. Therefore, "Atlanean sword" has a small length, but is designed with a long handle.
@seighta5714
@seighta5714 3 года назад
True, that's a dagger. To be correct, the altantean general is 2.5m. Said by Millius.
@Knight121198
@Knight121198 3 года назад
@@seighta5714 From what i have heard it was a Short sword the Giant used with one hand and was part of a matched set he duel wielded, although its brother was never found.
@seighta5714
@seighta5714 3 года назад
@@Knight121198 i never heard about this. I read the interview and it is not mentioned.
@AutoFirePad
@AutoFirePad 2 года назад
I just recently realized that and I wanted to comment on the subject. In the movie you can see Conan moving the hand of the Atlantic man and it is huge. I don't know if it is a dagger but surely is meant to be used one handed!
@bondrewdthenovel3598
@bondrewdthenovel3598 2 года назад
@@AutoFirePad This is the scene: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pmnbK9VR7VM.html There is a full shot of the throne and you can see that the hand of the corpse can easily grip the sword one handed.
@44WarmocK77
@44WarmocK77 7 лет назад
It's interesting that your two-handed version actually looks far more "natural" for the sword design itself. I mean, a ricasso on s one-handed sword clips a lot of useful edge away from the already relatively short blade. I think I'd take the longer one if I could buy it. :3
@Alberto-mq3jm
@Alberto-mq3jm 7 лет назад
Anything wielded by Arnold is automatically the deadliest weapon in the whole multiverse.
@mythguard6865
@mythguard6865 7 лет назад
When holding a real sword "I'm really feeling it!!!"
@gokuuzumaki70
@gokuuzumaki70 7 лет назад
When holding the monado "I'm really feeling it!"
@mythguard6865
@mythguard6865 7 лет назад
Goku Uzumaki you know it!
@deathangellink
@deathangellink 7 лет назад
''can you feel it Mr Conan ??''
@Tentegen
@Tentegen 7 лет назад
what a necromeme~
@frealms
@frealms 7 лет назад
Skallagrim likes the pommel, what a shock... Now being a bit more serious, I think the length was probably a production choice to fit it better in the shots or even to make it look small when compared to Conan himself, giving him more super-human features ("That big sword looks so tiny when he wields it, he is inhumanly big!"). Or maybe they just knew squat about it and it's all empty speculation and the sword just looked cool enough xD
@whyjay9959
@whyjay9959 7 лет назад
The sword's previous owner was even bigger, though. Well, taller at least.
@cuachogaidh
@cuachogaidh 7 лет назад
I think it was supposed to be a giant's short sword.
@makaiev
@makaiev 7 лет назад
all the above my friend, all the above...
@_XR40_
@_XR40_ 5 лет назад
None of the above. The sword was made katana-length because the actors trained with katanas.
@lordtentacle9074
@lordtentacle9074 7 лет назад
I just love his videos. You get what you are promised and no useless stretching out of the videos length.
@jaganzakahn
@jaganzakahn 7 лет назад
This is the kind of video that made me fall in love with your content, Skall. I remember the first one I saw was the one about shard blades and it got me hooked.
@NeutralGuyDoubleZero
@NeutralGuyDoubleZero 7 лет назад
I actually kinda like the stubbyness of it. Not for practicality sake of course, but because I feel it makes the details of his sword more concentrated and dense as well as fitting with the whole barbaric feel of minimal looking equipment. Dudes in basically a loincloth so I think having a shorter sword actually fits with the theme.
@thorzap1374
@thorzap1374 7 лет назад
Hey Skallagrim I have a remake of one of Kratos' sword from the God of War series (not the sword of olympus). If I sent that in would you be interested in reviewing it?
@RammerDarkSun
@RammerDarkSun 7 лет назад
really? i wish i could see it in action in real life
@mrgilgamesh4252
@mrgilgamesh4252 7 лет назад
They are treated more like flails than swords though. In-game they count as little more than glorified daggers that he swings about like yo-yos. Awesome to play, awesome to watch. Same principal as the Witcher combat; you can see what they were going for and, for the character it was designed for, it works. But practicality? Pffffft
@onigames7309
@onigames7309 7 лет назад
According to the wiki, they are falchion-like blades. But yes, they are a bit stubby.
@williamblazkowicz5587
@williamblazkowicz5587 7 лет назад
Please answer my question about another video game weapon. How effect would the penetrator (sr3 dildo bat) be in real life?
@grinningchicken
@grinningchicken 7 лет назад
that would be a cool one to review
@davidb8815
@davidb8815 7 лет назад
That side-by-side of the historical greatsword and the shorter & heavier movie sword is the picture that's worth a thousand words when it comes to this subject. Well done again Skall :)
@monkyh6of6
@monkyh6of6 7 лет назад
I've being watching your videos for a while now and I think there probably the best put together on RU-vid very useful and informative
@1SaG
@1SaG 5 лет назад
Length (or lack thereof) is also a bit puzzling when you consider the in-universe origins of the sword. Conan picks it up from this Atlantean king (or general?) whose skeleton is far taller than a normal human's. Milius says something to that effect on the BRD-commentary and it's pretty obvious when you look at the scene where the corpse's hand rests on the sword's pommel. So to that guy, this sword could only have been a short-sword at best - or perhaps even only a longer dagger. And yet it's presented in his tomb as if it had been his most prized weapon. Granted: We aren't told anything about Atlantean culture or burial rituals in the film, but I still thought it a little odd.. :)
@nate_thealbatross
@nate_thealbatross 7 лет назад
Now someone needs to make this so we can buy it... Skallgrim's Atlantean greatsword.
@freakydeke1
@freakydeke1 7 лет назад
see brother banzai
@nate_thealbatross
@nate_thealbatross 7 лет назад
Thanks. They even have Link's sword. Want.
@joshgraham2456
@joshgraham2456 7 лет назад
I love your videos so much. I get excited with every upload. And thank you for making me even more interested in swords and collecting them ☺️ keep up the good work!
@tarheelskk
@tarheelskk 7 лет назад
Fantastic video skall, very interesting!
@richstone2627
@richstone2627 7 лет назад
I agree but I wouldn't put the leather on the revised version. I never understood why they made the sword so short. I read the book before the movie came out and the sword belonged to a Giant so it should have been much larger even if it was a arming sword for the Giant. Conan's Father's sword is outstanding as well but suffers from being too heavy and could use some length as well. I own both and they feel like holding a large crowbar.
@The4cp
@The4cp 7 лет назад
Rich Stone I have the Atlantean Sword. You're absolutely right. It's nearly unusable.
@pendantblade6361
@pendantblade6361 7 лет назад
Rich Stone Which book was this? Im familiar with original Howard stories, but not ones by future writers.
@LaughingOwlKiller
@LaughingOwlKiller 7 лет назад
Think he means the novelization for the film
@roguishpaladin
@roguishpaladin 7 лет назад
Rich, think of it as an iron age sword for a giant. Then the dimensions might make more sense.
@ThetaReactor
@ThetaReactor 7 лет назад
His father's sword was cast iron, so it would have to be short and stout to have any utility at all. The real riddle of steel is how anyone in that world built a good sword in the absence of proper forging techniques.
@kingkessef6040
@kingkessef6040 7 лет назад
Damn...that thing is heavy as shit! It'd be like swinging a AK-47 around.
@carbonbasedlifeform6693
@carbonbasedlifeform6693 6 лет назад
King Kessef An AK47 Is actually pretty lights.
@thedude5449
@thedude5449 3 года назад
@@carbonbasedlifeform6693 an ak weighs close to 7.5 pounds.
@Droggarth
@Droggarth 7 лет назад
I'm a newer subscriber of yours, first few videos I saw I liked due to you making actual sense of the real thing. Decided to subscribe several months ago because you have this practical sense of how real historical battles would go and what weapon is more useful than some other or vice versa and so on and so forth. Plus you have this charismatic Viking-esque personality, I'm european myself so I also have quite a bit in common with the Vikings as the country I'm in was also a place of harbor at few areas near the seas (hint: Estonia). Anyhow glad you like the Conan's Atlantean sword too, am fan of that sword myself and I agree with making it longer and lighter to add some real usage to the sword. What made me like Conan and the sword he finds in the movie is how much Arnie puts a strong sense of strength into the character without speaking much and the scene with finding that sword from the ancient tomb in the cave is powerful in a sense of both music and how special it was for Conan when he found that sword. That and then there's the Riddle of Steel mystery/enigma put into effect by Crom, god under the mountain. Which is a powerful effect itself and the way Conan's father speaks about it all to the young Conan is a priceless moment as it has a sense of strength, mystery and vague path given to understand the meaning of steel throughout the rest of the movie. The Riddle of Steel has a real sensible meaning/answer that applies even in real life.
@dotark
@dotark 6 лет назад
So glad too see more about hema and swords again
@chadthundercock8091
@chadthundercock8091 7 лет назад
Wait, so if I take an empty pommel and fit another pommel inside it, will it be a double pommel or pommel^2 ? It's important to my research on pommels as potential alternative to antimatter as a fuel.
@castoli44
@castoli44 7 лет назад
antimatter fuel would end the use of fossil fuels rightly
@Folbak
@Folbak 7 лет назад
Dick Kick'em double pommel
@Earthium
@Earthium 7 лет назад
Double pommel.
@chadthundercock8091
@chadthundercock8091 7 лет назад
+Mr Teepawt Nah, I don't do cooking anymore, my girlfriend does it for me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@hugofontes5708
@hugofontes5708 7 лет назад
what if you cascade pommels? or put two pommels side to side at the end of the handle? do you have two pommels or just a technically still one but weireder pommel?
@jetkill05
@jetkill05 7 лет назад
have you ever reviewed A Knight's Tale's fight choreography? Maybe even the jousting? I'm not sure if you have any knowledge of the sport, though.
@FrozenLemur
@FrozenLemur 7 лет назад
I'm loving the videos you've been posting! Keep up the great work.
@Sir_Arlin
@Sir_Arlin 7 лет назад
totally agree I always thought it was unusually short and it always looked heavy to me!
@fsmoura
@fsmoura 7 лет назад
_"why the heck is this thing so short and stubby?"_ thats what she said
@HellishSpoon
@HellishSpoon 7 лет назад
EXTRA THICC sword.
@TheMan-je5xq
@TheMan-je5xq 7 лет назад
HELL SPOON 30 minutes or it comes with a free extra pommel?! Excellent!! Hahahahahahahahahahaha!
@gianlucaborg195
@gianlucaborg195 7 лет назад
Keep it up. Epic explanation and show. Good job, eager to see much more vids!
@petrdavid7434
@petrdavid7434 7 лет назад
I really missed this kind of videos. Hope you can find some more weapons to review like this :)
@Crayfish
@Crayfish 7 лет назад
i feel blue balled by the abrupt ending, you need to ramble a bit more :P
@nilsharms7159
@nilsharms7159 7 лет назад
WOW no crossguard lengthening?? really? im quite surprised you critizise this so often @Skallagrim
@anthonythomas8079
@anthonythomas8079 7 лет назад
not much point when there is the guard on the blade to hold the sword similar to SOME great swords ( i.e www.coldsteel.com/two-handed-great-sword.html ).
@Ivanhoe52
@Ivanhoe52 Год назад
In 'Conan the barbarian',it has perfect proportions. They messed with it in the 'Conan the destroyer', just a tad, and it already looked... well, not as good. (they did put longer blade, and longer grip. And widher ricasso with hooks on the end sticking out of langets toward the front end. Leather wrap on the grip, and the guard and pommel didn't look like nice dark old bronze, but more like bright gold.) My opinion is, the blade is thick like that, to get a nice deep fuller, and those beautifull deep hierogliph engrawings. By the way, Conan found it in a tomb of a atlantean general, which was a giant (cca 10 feet tall) compared to later race - humans. So it is reasonable to presume that for him, it would be a one-handed sword. But that's just my humble opinion. Greetings from Croatia
@StudSupreme
@StudSupreme 7 лет назад
Always enjoyable and thoughtful. When Skall makes a vid, he's practically inviting you into his house for a cup of tea. It's quite cool. :-)
@Abyssal_Dreamer
@Abyssal_Dreamer 6 лет назад
Skallagrim: It's too heavy for it's size. Conan: I'm strong! Heavy blade means heavy punch! If i wanted a lighter punch I just punch! Skallagrim: A lot more exhausting to use and it would... feel clumsy. Conan: I'm a great warrior! I'm not clumsy! you're clumsy and puny with your light swords! Skallagrim: It's short! it's too short for it's wheight! Conan: I'm a great warrior! I'm no afraid of getting closer! And when I go closer, you go dead. Skallagrim: ... Right.
@oz_jones
@oz_jones 6 лет назад
Accurate depiction of the alleged conversation between the two.
@DingoAteMeBaby
@DingoAteMeBaby 7 лет назад
funny enough, the skyrim mod that added conans weapons into the game had a choice to make it longer and more realistic.
@jamesback8024
@jamesback8024 7 лет назад
100% agree on all points. SOMEONE Needs to produce your version. I would buy it sooo fast.
@Rokkiteer
@Rokkiteer 7 лет назад
I really like your logical arguements. It's almost soothing to listen to a reasonable man.
@tavernburner3066
@tavernburner3066 7 лет назад
2:24 a counter weight ha! What a ridiculous Idea. Obviously it's their so that you can end your opponent rightly! on the slightly more serious side does having a hollow pommel reduce ones ability to mordhau ?
@breaden4381
@breaden4381 7 лет назад
Hit with the cross guard I suppose. Just hope the smith didn't make that hollow as well. And besides, a pommel is still a pommel, and you can throw them in Mordhau.
@thelividdeads
@thelividdeads 7 лет назад
To answer, Not fully. If it's good metal the Pommel's shape and thickness will still allow it to preform it's function. If it's bad metal you may just fuck up your pommel... or your entire sword. given bad metal often doesn't hold up well in a fight.
@breaden4381
@breaden4381 7 лет назад
The Livid Dead Bad metal also sounds like shit.
@cobraglatiator
@cobraglatiator 7 лет назад
"bad metal" sounds like a highschool metalcore band.
@tavernburner3066
@tavernburner3066 7 лет назад
The Livid Dead thanks.
@SuperLexxe
@SuperLexxe 7 лет назад
Doesn't Conan fight monsters n' shit? Would it be that the sword is bulky/heavy for more power? While an IRL Greatsword would be against humans, with more reach for more techniques etc when facing humans?
@kouriichi
@kouriichi 7 лет назад
Yeah, with its weight it would essentially be a crushing weapon on top of a slashing one. And its short size allows really accurate thrusts, which is important for hitting weak spots in a creatures hide. Its not the best design for a weapon, but given the universe where monsters are almost as common as people, you need specialized weapons.
@SKy_the_Thunder
@SKy_the_Thunder 7 лет назад
Especially against monsters you'd want to have more reach. Plus a longer blade gives you a bigger force of impact because in the same swing the tip of the sword will move faster than that of a smaller one.
@Leo-pw3kf
@Leo-pw3kf 7 лет назад
Conan does PVE, not PVP
@zancloufer
@zancloufer 7 лет назад
While that makes sense to make a heavier weapon to fight tougher enemies, it's the distribution of weight that is the problem. A heavy blade isn't bad, but when more than 50% of the weight is in the half closest to you it would make the blade harder to swing. If the false edge was uncovered and on the other side of the sword (Like Fire Emblem's Armour Slayer sword) it might work that way, but not the way it is currently balanced.
@Skallagrim
@Skallagrim 7 лет назад
Monsters? => Axe / hammer / spiked mace A sword is not supposed to be a bludgeon, that is contrary to its design. Also, if it's too heavy it limits the velocity of the strike, which in turn lowers the kinetic energy that can be generated. Velocity increases the energy at a faster rate than mass does.
@TriaMaxwell
@TriaMaxwell 7 лет назад
YAY! Been so long since we had one of these.
@faenrir11
@faenrir11 7 лет назад
wish the sword was cheaper so that you could test it :P
@AnnalOfHistory
@AnnalOfHistory 7 лет назад
You make it better by giving the sword a detachable pommel of course.
@buttsufancypantsu1644
@buttsufancypantsu1644 7 лет назад
That can't be Right.
@MaartenvanRossemLezingen
@MaartenvanRossemLezingen 7 лет назад
Better yet, reforge the steel and make a bunch of pommels instead of a sword.
@MrAliquam
@MrAliquam 7 лет назад
Oh, fuck you, I wanted to write that... On the other hand - I'm glad I didn't... an overused joke by this point.
@padalan2504
@padalan2504 7 лет назад
Yes, it's close to becoming cancer. We need more medieval jokes
@poiuytrewq11422
@poiuytrewq11422 7 лет назад
Pada LAN A peasant walked over to his friend. The peasant says "I just turned 20 years old!". His friend would look at him and say "So what should I wear for the funeral?".
@jordanbonacci5725
@jordanbonacci5725 7 лет назад
Don't let the shortness of the blade distract from the fact that Skall literally has the best hair in the HEMA community. It's luscious. It's rich. You just don't see hair like that nowadays.
@richardhasledine7089
@richardhasledine7089 7 лет назад
Good video. Darksword Armoury do a pretty amazing version of the weapon in this video, with their own flare and style. Its called the The Warmonger Barbarian Sword. Its probably their most costly weapon outside the Elite Series, but I personally own one and its very cool. Its even got a longer blade, making it more in line with a longsword.
@XHirntotx
@XHirntotx 7 лет назад
Could you make that into a series? Taking fantasy swords and make them practical is definately something I would like to see more often.
@rgenherehjartablo1742
@rgenherehjartablo1742 7 лет назад
If you want to make the sword better, you must make the pommel able to unscrew.
@ColdNorth0628
@ColdNorth0628 7 лет назад
SavageHjerte - ᚱᚨᚷᚾᚨᚱ make sword secretly have a sling to throw your pommel farther.
@TheNightOwl11683
@TheNightOwl11683 7 лет назад
carlos conde Hidden sling inside the handle..... That's brilliant!!
@brianp6859
@brianp6859 6 лет назад
So that you might end him rightly!!
@brianelkins8604
@brianelkins8604 5 лет назад
"With face in Palm I say" I must now kill yoy. I know you are joking, it's all fun and games till I start to cry and people start to die. I'm sorry, but a threaded pommel killed my family and my dog. Raped brother and burned down my gazebo. I have dedicated my life to destroying any evidence of the concept of a threaded pommel. I shall make the world as though they had never been. I mean who the fuck has the skill set to temper a blade yet can't manage a kindergarten lvl technique like hot peining a god damn tang so. I don't understand how guy like the man at arms guys justify this shit. They shall drowned in lakes of blood now they will know why they fear the night
@_XR40_
@_XR40_ 5 лет назад
Actually, historical swords seldom had pommels that could be unscrewed. That would be a mark of a cheap, unreliable sword.
@paquimex
@paquimex 7 лет назад
SUPER THICC PUMMEL
@johnsteiner3417
@johnsteiner3417 3 года назад
Grew up idolizing this sword, more than the character this sword was the cornerstone of fantasy when I was a kid. The early 2000's Conan movie failed in my mind for the absence of this sword above all else.
@drutarthesavage5156
@drutarthesavage5156 7 лет назад
Finally! I've been waiting for years for you to cover this sword! Thank you Skall! By the way I never tought you actually like this weapon.
@Kriscor01
@Kriscor01 7 лет назад
but arnold is a bodybuilder...
@sherrigofdenmark2823
@sherrigofdenmark2823 7 лет назад
A lighter sword would be even deadlier in the hands of a strong man than a very heavy one.
@ColdNorth0628
@ColdNorth0628 7 лет назад
Sherrig Ofdenmark what if the sword is too big to be called a sword, too thick, and too heavy.
@sherrigofdenmark2823
@sherrigofdenmark2823 7 лет назад
It would be a club I guess, If it has the right proportions to classify as a sword but was simply larger then it would still be considered a sword but if it was made for a human then it would just be a very stupid sword.
@omarabe26
@omarabe26 7 лет назад
+Elrozzo Seicentoquattordici So Guts has an excuse for weilding the Dragonslayer but Conan doesn't for weilding Atlantean?!
@omarabe26
@omarabe26 7 лет назад
+ComradeStirner Exactly, the Atlantean sounds normal compared to the Dragonslayer.
@MrVladDubrovski
@MrVladDubrovski 7 лет назад
Awesome work! Would love to see more of this "Fantasy in real life" content!
@mattnobrega6621
@mattnobrega6621 2 года назад
I own that sword and also Conan's fathers sword. Got them both from a good sword company out of toledo Spain. It's classed as a functional sword. Together, they cost a little over $1,000 plus s&h and taxes and all that jazz. They both are nice.
@TheMultiGunMan
@TheMultiGunMan 6 лет назад
Love this video my man!
@nesano4735
@nesano4735 7 лет назад
Yet another video that we''d love to see.
@nealsterling8151
@nealsterling8151 7 лет назад
Nice! Seeing Conan (Arnie) with a huge 2 handed sword is quite a view!
@adamm5087
@adamm5087 4 года назад
Jody Samson Artist who created this sword for the movie. He deserves the credit for creating this sword. Great job Jody, one of my favorites too.
@diequietschbeus8181
@diequietschbeus8181 3 года назад
No, Ron Cobb designed the Sword. Samson "only" forged it.
@123bigmam
@123bigmam 7 лет назад
I really like that you use different units, like Kg and lbs.
@airahfuji
@airahfuji 7 лет назад
I'm new here.. and watched vids from 2014 up till this one.. a marathon really! and I noticed something eerily similar with every single one of them.. The pommel seems to be going strong.
@tafellappen8551
@tafellappen8551 6 лет назад
im actually reeeally interested now to see an analysis of Jet's swords from ATLA
@stevendee2831
@stevendee2831 7 лет назад
love the topic here. balance is definitely key.
@darkempire37
@darkempire37 7 лет назад
cool video , I love the look of this sword as well .
@simonregan471
@simonregan471 4 года назад
Worth noting the 'Conan the Adventurer' cartoon adapted the basic design of the Atlantean sword, making it longer and giving it a wider guard with upswept horns. The distinctive strips along the ricasso were kept but shortened to the point of being decorative only.
@williambernkastel4821
@williambernkastel4821 7 лет назад
one thing I have always liked to see Skallagrim talking about is trick weapons from Bloodborne. It would be pretty interestig because how crazy some of the weapons are.
@TheHonoredMadman
@TheHonoredMadman 11 месяцев назад
Just rewatched this classic on netflix and was thinking a video about the various swords and weapons in it would be interesting. I was particularly partial to the sword of the archer subotai, but also valerias sword too, theres also alot of stuff like that hammer thorgrim uses that would be hilarious to here your take on.
@TheHonoredMadman
@TheHonoredMadman 11 месяцев назад
Hear*
@zeframmann1641
@zeframmann1641 7 лет назад
Like the video. The thing most people don't notice though, is the SIZE of the skeleton Conan takes the sword from. It's taller than Ahnuld SITTING DOWN! Conan's sword was likely just like a giant's version of a Roman short-sword made for close-range heavy chopping. But like Frodo with the Elven dagger Sting, it looks like a full-sized blade in his hands.
@eddiemaiden2012
@eddiemaiden2012 5 лет назад
awesome review
@SebNaw
@SebNaw 3 месяца назад
Good old video mate, thank you.
@michaelcheal373
@michaelcheal373 7 лет назад
LOVE THIS GUYS REFERENCES !!!!!!!!!!!!
@Demoon555666
@Demoon555666 7 лет назад
I own the Atlantean sword, made from Marto Toledo , the official company that made the original. It's an amazing piece but definitely has its disadvantages as a weapon.
@suntzu8244
@suntzu8244 5 лет назад
Love your vids. I need to point out though that this was pre B.C. in fact infancy of steel wielding. It's proper for the time and probably advanced for the explained time. Thanks.
@RedZenGaming
@RedZenGaming 5 лет назад
lol, I can just imagine Conan screaming in Arnold voice "Gah! It' was made for mighty barbarians!"
@JediSamson
@JediSamson 7 лет назад
This was definitely a great video, ad honestly, I've been waiting for you to take a look at the Atlantean sword as well but...forgive me for my imprudence here, Skall -- I am actually still interested in hearing your final word on arming sword/bastard sword/longsword when used with a shield (we'll say a Teutonic Templar Kite shield) because I am an aspiring student of swordsmanship and I DO want to learn HEMA however...I want to learn how to use either a bastard sword or (ideally) a Longsword, alongside a shield.
@MrBigboy3178
@MrBigboy3178 7 лет назад
great video!
@Hauptseite
@Hauptseite 7 лет назад
I want to see Skallagrim analyze the weaponry of the Predator. That should be pretty fun.
@randywoodworth5990
@randywoodworth5990 Год назад
the sword made at the beginning has always been my favorite.
@kevinbonet7783
@kevinbonet7783 7 лет назад
4:41 is the answer to the question asked in the title. also, it looked so badass i immediately clicked like after seeing it
@cheapthought9200
@cheapthought9200 7 лет назад
Love your content, and glad to see another fantasy weapon being scrutinized, always was my fav. For fun, id love to see you tear those weapons from the anime Bleach a new one, or, since i kno eastern weapons arnt your thing, maybe the Soul caliber video game series.
@jthewelshwarlord6331
@jthewelshwarlord6331 7 лет назад
I like the look of that gallowglass when put up by Conan's sword.
@FabledHeroes3351
@FabledHeroes3351 7 лет назад
I wanna see Man At Arms make your version of Conans blade now
@tatehammontree2636
@tatehammontree2636 6 лет назад
Once upon a time, I bought the cheapo replica of this sword. It had a lot of issues, namely it was made of stainless and incredibly "top heavy" with the blade. The handle and pommel were hollow and had no weight to them, and the handle was very lightweight as well. Second, of course it had a rat tail tang. I'm glad I learned what that was before I hit anything with it and had the blade snap off the handle. All in all, it was really just made to look pretty and hang on a wall.
@michaelthebarbarian3380
@michaelthebarbarian3380 3 года назад
As a big weightlifter (6'2" 275) I really like swinging this thing around. Feels powerful in the hand in that once it get's going... I cannot image effectively blocking it. TLDR it's fun to chop shit up with it, but I can imagine it being worthless for anyone smaller.
@DANTHETUBEMAN
@DANTHETUBEMAN 2 года назад
It's not for mortal men. It's Atlantian!
@LaughingOwlKiller
@LaughingOwlKiller 7 лет назад
Same conclusions Matt Easton had. I too always loved the Atlantean sword..it and He-Man's sword of Power is what lead me down the path of weaponry.
@cruz68
@cruz68 7 лет назад
I agree with you Skallagrim.
@GrandSupremeDaddyo
@GrandSupremeDaddyo 7 лет назад
A version with these modifications would be beastly. If they made it I bet it would sell so well.
@DarthKato
@DarthKato 7 лет назад
It would be awesome if you could go to Hollywood as an advisor on Medival swords and stuff. You would be great at it!
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