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How to Make HARD Levels! - Super Mario Maker 2 Level Design

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How do you make your Super Mario Maker 2 Levels harder without making the player rage? In this video I show you how to make hard levels using Super Mario Maker 2 Level Design principles; as well as how to implement a difficulty curve that keeps the player engaged and willing to beat your course.
I make weekly educational Super Mario Maker 2 videos. Be sure to check out this ongoing playlist of my Super Mario Maker 2 Level Design series.
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Making hard levels is way easier than making good levels. Mario Maker 2 difficulty is tricky because every has their own skillset. This video should help flesh out any course you're having trouble nailing down that perfect difficulty curve.
If you're looking for some inspiration, check out my Item Breakdown series. I am breaking down every single item in Super Mario Maker 2, going over their properties, and finding interesting ways to use them in our own levels.
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@TobiasBergdorf 4 года назад

Something I could've explained better is that a *TARGET AUDIENCE* is not the same as your *GENERAL AUDIENCE* . It's essential to have a clear idea of who you're making something for so that person can feel like it's made for them. There will be outliers, and this is a *good thing* . Just because you don't fit the description in this video doesn't mean I don't welcome you!

@Arrowstotle 4 года назад

Tobias Bergdorf I make courses that are anywhere from 2% to 50% clear rate. Mostly I just focus on creating fun courses that are fair for the player!

@TobiasBergdorf 4 года назад

@@Arrowstotle That's the best way to do it! By the way keep up the good work on your channel.

@Arrowstotle 4 года назад

Tobias Bergdorf Thank you! Your channel is one of the biggest inspirations for me. I really appreciate your content!

@sirtechy5803 4 года назад

My courses are mostly around 0-10 %, and have no trolls. I Dont like trolls myself, thats Why. I do like a challenge though and making my stage look good. Id like to see a video where you explain How to make a good story stage or How to make a music level (as i have Done both, and would like to see How you would target them)

@Salem-Arrak 4 года назад

With these guidelines and theories you set in mind, it would be interesting to stack them against shared levels to see how well a level is. I personally try to emulate the difficulty curve in some of my levels, and I would love to see how well they stack and how and where to improve.

@izasira 4 года назад

I make my levels for humans, generally.

@GobouLePoissonBoue 4 года назад

"Generally"

@izasira 4 года назад

Unfortunately, no. Only humans.

@andrewcheng1948 4 года назад

@@latlat5770 sometimes :)

@Invaliput 4 года назад

So GLaDOS can't Play them!?

@EpigeoN_ 4 года назад

BlueSteem I Gaming PORTAL

@cgrn17 4 года назад

I’m a 16 year old living in the UK and now I feel excluded

@amphattack4200 4 года назад

C-Grn sorry man :(

@BudsTheAwesome 4 года назад

Same boat, here. Let's rebel together.

@joaoedu1965 4 года назад

I dont even speak english! i live in brazil and 12 yrs old

@KnightoftheSorryFace 4 года назад

I feel ya man

@Yoreni 4 года назад

@@joaoedu1965 you do speak english

@bruceu4649 4 года назад

Has english speaking channel "His audience is u.s. dudes" While me: *Laughs in russian*

@tyomich_zakuro 4 года назад

Я тоже, брат х)

@EkiTheIdiot 4 года назад

*Joins laugh in Finnish*

@cathacker13 4 года назад

*chuckles in Czech*

@Silver-Arm 4 года назад

Me: Huehuehues in brazilian portuguese

@joshix833 4 года назад

Me: don't laughs in german

@S_WISE 4 года назад

Liking that new editing. Very dark, glitchy and overall mysterious. Suits you well

@cecillemilitante3115 4 года назад

He's dark and glitchy?

@umgarotoaleatorio7044 2 года назад

"Dark editing" The video: cheerful music on the background that makes me feel *Ecstatic*

@rainydeestar4806 4 года назад

1:10 I know what you're trying to do, Tobias. You're trying to make us write in the comments our actual nationality and age. But jokes on you! I saw right through your little game

@TobiasBergdorf 4 года назад

I've been got!

@claudio-maker2943 4 года назад

I would’ve say that on a poll

@boot-cs3sn 4 года назад

@@TobiasBergdorf rip grammar

@alysdexia 2 года назад

@@boot-cs3sn RIP diction/lecsis.

@bloodydoll5897 4 года назад

-isnt an 18-35 or male -doesnt live in us -speaks french and english i guess but whatever -DOES have a passion for video games dang, you got me heccing mind reader over here

@sebs4622 4 года назад

It seems that the people you make content for don't know what a comment section is lol.

@justarandomguy8068 4 года назад

I'm 12 years old. I'm Italian. I live in Italy. I love your videos.

@Ranboso 4 года назад

Oh ma ciao

@justarandomguy8068 4 года назад

@@Ranboso Ciao, italiano carissimo

@Ranboso 4 года назад

@@justarandomguy8068 sono maschio

@justarandomguy8068 4 года назад

@@Ranboso Lo so

@saigesmart4167 4 года назад

Love the analogy that troll levels are like puzzles. Couldn't figure out why I liked them but now I know lol

@quads4407 4 года назад

I speak french I'm less than 18 year old I live in france But I like video games and I am creative

@rainydeestar4806 4 года назад

I'm the only french here you little canard

@mystora7159 4 года назад

Im dutch but i also speak english im under 18 and too much personal info bye

@ichamsakkar4249 4 года назад

Hey stop copying me

@zulianfr 4 года назад

Comme moi !

@lienep7917 4 года назад

Y'a plein de français dans la communauté Mario Maker internationale...

@aram9136 4 года назад

Sorry, I’m not an 18-35 year old living in the United States. Unsubscribed, disliked, good riddance.

@TrollMagic1987 4 года назад

Lol

@callumsylvester9921 4 года назад

Same here I’m 13 and in the uk

@claudio-maker2943 4 года назад

I am younger than 18 and I live in Italy

@DaShonuff 4 года назад

im actually older than that audience but I fit most of your other target. i studied game design when I was in my 20's and studied drawing, painting and animation so I definitely am in the creative side.

@skoopymemes9563 4 года назад

@@claudio-maker2943 anche io

@Sergio-dv3lf 4 года назад

Hey im spanish! I started watching you since last week and i love your videos! Thank you for all this incredible time

@pandagamer3093 4 года назад

I started when nintendo said that their gonna reveal super mario maker 2 lol😂

@JelloJio 6 месяцев назад

Hi Spanish

@adrien3295 4 года назад

I don't live in USA but in France lol Edit : I love SMM2 English videos because the French SMM2 video aren't the best imao

@DemsW 4 года назад

@@glowsham rpz

@zulianfr 4 года назад

Donc tu est fr ?

@adrien3295 4 года назад

@@zulianfr oui pourquoi je mentirais ?

@zulianfr 4 года назад

@@adrien3295 non je demandais juste.

@trambus1144 4 года назад

Been scrolling down the comment section and it seems I'm not the only Frenchie after all.

@pandagamer3093 4 года назад

I'm the only Norwegian🙄🇧🇻

@emguag 4 года назад

Casper Gulliksen Wrong

@rauwolovlosti3635 4 года назад

1:10 nothing of this is me 😂

@ectoOLDACC 4 года назад

Difficulty Ratings: Auto Easy Normal Expert Super Expert Kaizo Extreme Kaizo Super Ultimate Extreme Kaizo PangeaPanga

@TobiasBergdorf 4 года назад

This is... accurate.

@GobouLePoissonBoue 4 года назад

Auto Easy Normal Harder Normal Expert Super Expert Troll Kaizo Troll Kaizo Hotel Trivago

@holyroller67 4 года назад

Auto Music Trash Autoscroll (Slow) Autoscroll (Medium) Easy Normal Multiplayer Co-op Quiz Tough Trash Multiplayer Versus Expert Autoscroll (Fast) Starter Kaizo Super Expert Kaizo Tougher Kaizo Extreme Kaizo Alpharad Labyrinths Ultimate Kaizo PangaeaPanga HotelTrivago

@GobouLePoissonBoue 4 года назад

There's also kaizo trash.

@ectoOLDACC 4 года назад

and TAS

@Gamer-GuyGG64 4 года назад

1 important part of difficulty balancing is checkpoint placement a few good places are A. as a reward for completing a particularly tough task. B.right before the climax. C. As preperation for a tricky challenge This helps add more leniency while keeping the difficulty in tact and makes sure the player doesn't have to do anything they already mastered. But if you more care about making short bursts of challenge Allah super meat boy no checkpoints is more ideal

@Platinum_XYZ 4 года назад

2:08 I'm hoping you've noticed but incase you haven't, that version of the Course World song is one of the first results on RU-vid, and there's a mistake in it. For some reason there's actually 2 different versions of Course World playing together at the same time in that video, and the 2 variations weren't meant to mix, and they don't sound good together. When it started playing, it was like a huge distraction instead of a natural change to another song, since 2 not exactly the same songs were playing. If you wanted to use Course World music, just capture the audio from your Switch.

@TobiasBergdorf 4 года назад

Interesting. I had no idea it was two songs mixed together but I can hear it now. I downloaded the entire SMM2 soundtrack a while ago and assumed it was someone who just ripped the files off their switch.

@pip3guy 4 года назад

I'm your biggest fan and I'm an Aussie LUL

@Sevrgpro 4 года назад

2:00 holy shoot it's ymai I remember him from rouges stream lol

@sirk603 4 года назад

TF, how did I find you in the comment section lol

@Sevrgpro 4 года назад

The Kitten Gamer hey kitten lol

@sirk603 4 года назад

Rg pro hello G A M E R

@evank3718 4 года назад

60 year old man who likes Nintendo: :)

@pandagamer3093 4 года назад

Probably not

@Andres33AU 4 года назад

This is a great video, and I am happy that this kind of thing is talked about in creator games, because I like to believe that I follow these rules when making my own stages. One thing as well that I think about with target audience is somehow trying to balance the difficulty in a way where newbies can still learn and play it, meanwhile veterans are still finding it somewhat challenging as well. I made a fairly quick and easy level, but realised a lot of players died in one particular spot where you either had to hold the run button and jump from a high platform, or hold the jump button off of a Bullet Bill to spring you across. To most players this is common knowledge, because jumping further while running or off an enemy are fundamental mechanics that we already know from other Mario games, but to very new players, it may not be something they're aware of, so the extra challenge I find is sometimes how I can introduce those fundamental mechanics to new players, though Nintendo did a great job with the single-player levels!

@pandagamer3093 4 года назад

Taaat ah lat tf texst

@stefanandrejevic2570 4 года назад

1:14 nope, you only guessed the last one for me xD

@Silver-Arm 4 года назад

Even though it might not be your first language, you do speak english

@seabassthegamer6644 4 года назад

@@Silver-Arm No, Stefan here can TYPE English. We don't know if he can SPEAK English. I'm obviously just being silly here, but does being able to type a message in a language count as being able to "speak" it?

@Silver-Arm 4 года назад

@@seabassthegamer6644 I'm not sure

@KailynnKat 4 года назад

German and a woman, but otherwise that was really accurate! xD

@beeboyy 4 года назад

Moin nice du bist also deutsch

@KailynnKat 4 года назад

@@beeboyy Moin! Ja, in der Tat ! :D

@AverageEggmonEnthusiast 4 года назад

16 and a woman! High five fellow Mädchen! ✋🏻

@Sebast 4 года назад

Also german xD

@AmeliaOak 4 года назад

I’m American but I’m also a female. I don’t know why he thinks Mario is a game geared toward males but okay? Lol

@Codj910 4 года назад

Sorry I just a 12 year old who likes super Mario maker

@fiere7936 4 года назад

Im 13

@JJ-zo7jv 4 года назад

Young codj910 it’s good to be as cultured as yourself at such a young age

@jacobymcguire4928 4 года назад

@@JJ-zo7jv im 8 reeee

@JJ-zo7jv 4 года назад

Jacoby Mcguire even better. I loved Mario Wii when I was 8. Cherish the moments my friend :)

@Codj910 4 года назад

Thank you for not thinking it’s weird

@MomhatezWow 4 года назад

19 y/o guy from us who speaks english and i’ve never felt more called out

@momoohil9361 4 года назад

Great video! Love reading the comments, it’s so cool to see people from all over the world ( and age rang) connecting together with a common interest . Awesome 😎

@Soullessgingerftw1 4 года назад

Holy shit, I'm an English-speaking 18-35 male living in the USA with a passion for video games, particularly Nintendo, and I'm creative

@TheLoginatoR 4 года назад

you got everything right except for age. I am in my young teen stages but I still love these videos, and the item break downs help me to find out about stuff I've never even heard of so keep em coming! I still have a lot to learn.

@rals_0 Год назад

Hes probably going by youtube analytics, and most youtube users lie about their age.

@MattTheCommenter 4 года назад

I'm from the UK and I'm not 18, I guess I'm not a fan :(

@zuxungold4208 4 года назад

Holy ancestors you described my traits so much it's almost scary xD

@andynelson9060 4 года назад

I think this might be your best video yet! The editing was really good and the video itself was well said.

@mr.bullionnaire9748 4 года назад

Good stuff man. I've definatly improved on my level making skills. Keep up the good work 👌👍

@kermitsudoku6446 4 года назад

i always try to make levels for newer players. i always let my 12yo cousin play my level to see if its too hard

@Ranboso 4 года назад

Cool idea

@GendoIkari_82 4 года назад

Wrong! I'm 37. :)

@zulianfr 4 года назад

I am 14y and I'm French... But I love you!

@zulianfr 4 года назад

Thank for the heart. That prove you don't just make vid and don't take care about your public.

@JJ-zo7jv 4 года назад

Holy crap what kind of dark magic?? What else do you know about me? Great banger again. In regards to enemy placement, don’t place more enemies, place *less* more effectively.

@UmberBee 4 года назад

I was fucking terrified when you described all those details, and every single piece of information was correct about me, I thought you were about to say my name and dox my address next

@CreativeSteve69 4 года назад

hey Tobias thanks for making this lv. I had made my first lv a month ago and after that I got addicted to creation mode and wanna make a hard fun challenging course. :) like your content by the way they come in handy.

@klevkaisetsu4883 4 года назад

Sorry but your content is so delightful that even french people are watching it. (I'm serious, I love what you are doing on this channel)

@MettanAtem 4 года назад

I've tried out a few things, but I find I work best making "traditional" levels, just getting to the end while avoiding hazards along the way. No need to think about where you're going, just get past whatever's in front of you. Or above, or below, maybe behind if there's something coming from that direction.

@KC_Garcia 4 года назад

You: "If you're watching this you probably live in the U.S." Me: **Laughs in Canadian**

@Werewolf1982 3 года назад

I just recently bought Mario Maker and you know me exactly how I feel That's awesome dude

@ade1174 4 года назад

I've had experiences making a hard level organically and then not so much. I made a grinder blue platform level in SMW that was naturally hard and people loved it. But a hard level backfired for me with a claw desert night level with dry bones that turned out to be frustrating for people. So this is a welcome video.

@NaffyZacky 4 года назад

1:10 - I speak Indonesia - Less than 18-35 years old - Live in Asia But yep, I like video game stuff specifically Nintendo. Great video by the way.

@TobiasBergdorf 4 года назад

Haha thanks. I wasn't trying to alienate anyone, clearly a lot of people don't fit that demographic. I just wanted to demonstrate that having an idea of who you're making content for goes a long way.

@adi-je9gu 4 года назад

1:13 im a 15 year old girl, living in Spain but anyway, go on 😂

@suzysfavorites 4 года назад

When he said I was creative it almost made me cry it was so nice it made my week

@crazycardenas6417 4 года назад

Suzy Curley honestly that so sad you’re depressing

@GobouLePoissonBoue 4 года назад

As you can see Tobias, there's a lot of us French people on your channel. Be proud :)

@jucom756 4 года назад

1:10 yes i have a pasion for video games and am creative... All the rest is wrong tho

@sirtechy5803 4 года назад

I make expert rated stages, sometimes super expert, and sometimes narrative stages ( Like you played, Toxic Story )

@sirtechy5803 4 года назад

Im Not 18+ though😂

@marcodile0 4 года назад

More like how to make a GOOD hard level

@magikarperxd4724 4 года назад

I'm Spanish 12 and live in Spain *YOU FOOL YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD PREDICT ME I'M INPREDICTABLE*

@meriotroid 4 года назад

I fit most of you channel demographic except I'm not over 18 lol

@haronka 4 года назад

Not-adult gang!!!

@campfire9760 4 года назад

Great video, very useful. Kinda short but it delivers the essentials

@wasabilai9405 4 года назад

Well i'm not creative, but want to get creative and that's why i'm here! I like how you included troll level and talked about it for a bit. There is a lot of misunderstanding to this genre and it is definitely my favourite type of level, so ya :D

@deadaccxd4111 4 года назад

Althought this is for super mario maker 2,it also helps for super mario maker 1 Great vid it really helped me with my levels

@littlebigcomrade 4 года назад

Good thing I’m colorblind against koopas. Extra challenge!

@Wilco2998 4 года назад

For me: I live in the Netherlands Speaks Dutch (native) and speak English (second language) Also, my target audience normally is someone that plays mario casually. Only 1 level of mine was meant for speed runners but that level is still beat able by casually players

@cappiecappie770 4 года назад

Wilco Spruijt we hebbeb een N E D E R L A N D E R

@Ranboso 4 года назад

Can you share your creator's id?

@Wilco2998 4 года назад

@@Ranboso my maker ID is 0N8-QLG-KQG

@pandagamer3093 4 года назад

Dutch?

@pandagamer3093 4 года назад

@@cappiecappie770??? Also, my name is also Casper

@noahgmorgan 4 года назад

Could you do a video just on good boss fight design?

@allen_n150 Год назад

i know this video was for mario maker. but i am making a 2d platformer and this helped me

@mariasaraleguy6755 4 года назад

On the ropic on troll levels, Mayro removed a jump involving a downwards shooting cannon in the level “my first auto level”, stating: “Troll levels are about guiding the player to the goal, but kill them very often along the way.”

@davex2444 4 года назад

You look really friendly

@TobiasBergdorf 4 года назад

Thank you?

@jmichaelb3632 4 года назад

I think there is such thing as a good kaizo block without making it a bad level design, as long as you can avoid it without interrupting the flow of the level and dont do too many, it can make for a nice touch on a section that may seem too easy at first glance, but is made a bit harder from having to avoid an unmarked hidden block.

@jaguero92 4 года назад

**Comentario salvaje en español aparece**. Tengo 27 años y soy de Costa Rica. 3.0 update gave me an excuse to return to SMM2 and world maker feature is challenging me to make more good old-school Mario standard levels. Great video, very informative!

@D0U8LE_H 4 года назад

I adore your videos, man! Keep it up! :)

@TobySullivan 4 года назад

this is epic thank you fellow toby

@davr1 4 года назад

"18-35yo male" "Lives in the US" "You're creative" >Me, 13, from Europe, not creative at all

@moritzworle2751 4 года назад

1:14 im native German speaker under 18 and living in Germany

@AndreaS-hs6zq 4 года назад

me, an 18 year old female: **sweats nervously**

@randomguythatexists2244 2 года назад

I make traditional levels that may be too hard for new players. Sometimes I might get complaints about the level being too hard or a lack of understanding of the course’s gimmick.

@sasamichan 4 года назад

I have a few levels where I have an idea but I don't know how to get the difficulty JUST right. its hard to explain. I would have to share some of the ones Im not happy with.

@lazerified 4 года назад

I dont live in USA lol

@stonesheep_1412 4 года назад

Same, i live in austria not in USA

@beetrootsoup3130 4 года назад

I'm not 18-32 :/

@somepersonmcsomebody7501 4 года назад

*I live in Antarctica...*

@mqcastro24 4 года назад

16 yo female living In Brazil... I'm a bit far off from your target but I like the channel a lot! congrats

@emyhR 4 года назад

Can you make a video breaking down the on and off switch?

@randomperson5579 3 года назад

If you're making a really hard level the key is to make your audience cry. Mario says: If they don'ta cry they don't get tha pizza pie.

@xandergruver 4 года назад

1:11 I'm 16 and I like watching your videos.

@artificialidiot1654 4 года назад

The Zelda games: They introduce new mechanics in each new dungeons, they teach you how, where and when to use them, then they test your skills with it. After you complete that, you go to another dungeon with greater difficulties and newer mechanics.

@randomguyontheinternet7940 4 года назад

If tou want to make a gimmicky course here is what you do. 1.Have a normal enemy section 2. Introduce the gimmick in one or two puzzles. 3. Give the gimmick some down time, put some new challenges, a mid-boss whaatever suits the stage theme. 4. Bring back the gimmick in a harder environment, for example claws can be combined with a spike floor, some enemies or just a normal section. 5. Understand the gimmick, don't make the gimmick/ gizmo the only challenge in the stage. Make it a portion of the challenges. Understand how it should be used, no one likes riding lifts making jumps over a pit. Put it under some ground and make the player fight off enemies.

@tinor3902 4 года назад

AWSOME !! =) !!

@Jaredeger 4 года назад

4:50 killed me lol

@MSCDonkeyKong 4 года назад

4:49 ive seen deviations from rules work in a game before, but it was only because the game was telling the story, and because the rule was a limiting factor given to a character due to a fear it has, and then it made a scripted section where the player wouldnt have lived without the rule deviation. in mario maker this would be hard to create however so its probably best to just not deviate from rules

@kama2106 4 года назад

how about ceave analisis where he showed that hardest parts should be just before the checkpoints / end of level

@fri5108 4 года назад

I'm 12 years old kid who live Nintendo games and games in general. I live in south america, I just know english so i see your videos, I have a superior IQ and the creative depends of the thing. You don't say nothing of that dislike (JK I just start seeing your vids and for that thing of viewers estereotipes I just sub) nice vid continue making , are pretty good) 10/10

@EpigeoN_ 4 года назад

Dang gotta come back in 8 years

@ethanhawksley9097 4 года назад

That description was nearly on point, jesus

@Hemaaatite 4 года назад

I don’t live in the U.S and I’m not 18-39 year old.. But I’m still subscribed! :)

@silly2449 4 года назад

I like to make chill levels that everyone can enjoy

@castleclasher1236 4 года назад

I'm from Germany so my native language is german. But I really enjoy good supermario maker videos. Doesn't matter if they are in english. 😁

@bkgames2 3 года назад

The four things that arem ost likely for watcgers of this Channel. I dont speak english on a day to day basis, im not even a teen, i dont live in The US but, i have a passion for video games

@TheAzorg 4 года назад

Language - yes, as a second language so I dunno, you tell me x) Age - correct Gender - yup Country - sorry sir, but I'm from Europe ;p Passion - yes For Nintendo games - naah, just for games in general Creative - maybe, I don't own Mario maker, nor switch to play it on. But I do draw things and if you consider it creative then fine, you're right :) Have a good one, still love your content ^^

@natanecarrasco7467 4 года назад

I just loved how you assumed that your audience is all Male. Sounds great. Girls play video games too you know. 😤

@TobiasBergdorf 4 года назад

I can't tell if this is satire or not, but clearly girls play video games too. I was just going off of my analytics, which say 90% of my audience is male.

@natanecarrasco7467 4 года назад

@@TobiasBergdorf That was just me in an angry moment after I heard what you said. I just really hate when people assume stuff like that. I don't hate you or nothing.

@natanecarrasco7467 4 года назад

@DiamondCrafting thank you. I wasn't trying to be mean I was just trying to make a point. Im one of the few girls that actually plays GTA. I love it.

@izikeye4089 4 года назад

I am in the USA, speak English 18-34, and have a passion for Nintendo Games. Also, creative.

@charlozeberlingo9623 4 года назад

Bruh I’m Canadian, speak French, as 14 years old, is not really creative but likes video game Good job, you got 1/5

@minionek247 4 года назад

5:39 lol i have it level on endless expert

@Darkenixx 4 года назад

I don't know if its caused by the difficulty drop or not, but my Auto levels get tons more likes then my other levels. So, after a while I went sticking to Auto's only.