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They look good and certainly a fantastic way to improve the railroad coaches. What you might want to consider when applying your brown wash is trying to simulate the direction of the grainning a little more. Above the waistline was always vertical grain, below was always horizontal. I use velejo acrylics as a base colour, then oil paints mixed with artists liquin to simulate the grain effect, This gives a little more thick mix to play with and the medium means that it takes ages to dry. This gives you loads of time to manipulate the mix to how you like it. Overall a marked improvement on the railroad finish.
I have just used your techniques with the brushes on my 14th older coaches!! They have come out really well, I am totally amazed!! The varnish hint was a revelation!! Regarding the glazing stuck inside, I have used a cheap new retractable scalpel knife with break off blades. I extended the blade and gently slid it along between the inside of the coach side and the glazing. The blade easily sorted out the dabs of glue and some double-sided tape. This meant I could then paint the interiors and add seated passengers. I now have 2 extra rakes of coaches that I can use without them looking appalling next to my rake of 5 of the latest versions!! Imagine the cost of 14 brand new coaches!! What a saving! I have also used a mid brown to the horizontal bar on the chassis and also the small rectangles above the doors, so the details are similar to the expensive range! Thanks for the detailed way you gave the instructions and why you were doing the various techniques. 10/10
Hi @Robin Linkens. Thank you so much for your kind words. We really appreciate it. Many people have gone further with this project adding even more detail etc. One thing I do each time I do a batch is make the shade slightly different to that of the one before and mix them up in sets for variation, the same as I do if I do or do not weather the roofs. Once again, thank you. Cheers
Nice job! They look better than the stock garbage. When I bought 2 RAILROAD Teaks back in 2016 I disappointed when it came with plastic wheels when the stock photo showed metal. Then I bought spare wheels directly from Hornby. They arrived broken and they refused a refund.
Thank you for this. Excellent tutorial I'm just doing this to mine I also upgraded my railroad P2 cock o' the north by adding detailing and lining to match the higher end ones Shows what can be done with railroad stuff with some time and a little effort.
Thank you Thank you, thank you, you are like a breath of fresh air. You don't waffle you just get on with the job in hand, no messing about you just tell it as it is thank you. I think I have learned more from you than anyone.
Your video about making the HORNBY gresley teak coaches look more realistic is just amazing. Thank you so much for showing what is needed to achieve this look. I have written down what you have used, I only hope I have spelt the names of the items I need correctly. Once again, many thanks Sir. 👍
Hello, I have noticed that on the detailed range of Gresley teaks the roof section continues til the very end of the coaches. the railroad teaks have these added end parts with the corridor connection to the next coach kept in brown. I suggest that You should shut the gap between the end part and the roof with some plastic putty, sand it down and then repaint it white again! that should add a more realistic view!
Apart from ought else, the batches of 'teak' would be different shades & colours anyway, from different species, parts of the tree trunk stored differently etc. .... it changes colour with age and with bleaching, soot etc. So presumably trains themselves would have been variegated even when brand new, when all's said and done, the grain of wood is itself a colour variation . Thank you for the tips and the recommendations. I love the idea that the varnish is 'therapeutic' ..... its called sniffing glue mate and it calms a lot of us down.
😂😂😂. Thanks for commenting and watching. It makes a huge difference to the look of the coaches and the whole process is quite therapeutic, not just the varnishing 🤣. Cheers
Incredible difference with little effort, I’ve got 4 of these teak coaches and will now be sending off for the paint and brushes you’ve used on this update. As you say the original colours do make them look cheap carriages. Looking forward to make a start, thanks for the information supplied with your video.
hi aidan.yes a very good idea. i spent hours masking up my teaks for the airbrush method .never gave this way a thought.. never too old to learn superb improvement .blinding video. cheers tom.
I feel bad now Tom, all that masking up. I know, I think I had done about twelve initially. When the comment was raised I had to see what could be done. As you said, never too old to learn and I believe we never stop learning especially in this hobby. Thank you Tom
A decent improvement there Aidan however I’m sure that you wouldn’t have to do it the way you have had to here, I’m sure that it is fairly easy to carefully break the glue seal on the glazing and get the glazing out of the coach
H David. Now initially I had the very same thought. I am certainly not saying you can not get them out. However at least two of the ones I checked out of our stack were a great risk of being damaged trying to get the glazing out. Some had just little dabs of glue and some looked like whoever did them got very carried away. Anyhow because the comment was made , I chose to see just how easy it could be to leave the glazing in situ. The Glue situation also does not seem to have a pattern in the sense that not all of the new ones do have the glue. I really don't know what is going on there. Anyway it works, certainly not the way it has to be done it is certainly an option. Thank you as always Dave. Cheers
Thankyou for this video, have a fair number of these and going to give this a go. See how it comes out then maybe go for the lot. 18 last count, 3 rakes for the A4s. Looking forward to the next video. Thanks again and all best, Marc
Hi Marc. Tis is exactly what happened here. Over the years we have kept picking them up so as many LNER locomotives had rakes of coaches. It is certainly not the only way to do this but it is definitely a option. I am enjoying slowly getting through all of these and making them a little better visually. Let me know how you get on and thank you. Cheers
Thank you for this. I did thin down a humrol enamel a few years ago. Tried it on one side of a brake coach,but it didn't look right.Will have to give this method a go it looks really good.
Hi Aidan I've put a short clip on RU-vid Titled Adding extra detail to hornby gresley coaches. I've told people to see this video hope thats ok. And I meant to thank you at the end but forgot.
I've dove some, instead of Sepia tone, I used Tamiya clear orange, I like the effect. I added a little gray in very fine lines on the panels in the direction of the "grain" to give it a bit more grain effect before the clear orange.
Hi, a brilliant piece of work. I have been given a present of a Hornby Mallard by my wife. She also got for me a rake of the bland and plasticky looking early coaches (these are from the Triang Hornby era). I'm going to try your technique on them. I have eleven of them in all. I don't like scrapping old rolling stock just because it's out of date, so this may give them a brand new lease of life. Thanks again.
@@AidansRailways Hi again, thanks for your reply. You asked me to let you know how i got on. First time i tried it it was not so good, but it was me doing it wrong. I was overloading the brush and the wash was going everywhere. I tried again using a much more controlled brush and the result was much better. I converted two of these coaches - one to a full brake and one to a dining car - and with the 'teak treatment' they look good. I'm pleased and all my teaks will be getting painted now. Thanks again. .
Thank you. On some I sprayed them sea grey, some I made the white dirty with smoke weathering powders and others clean white as there would have been differences in real life 👍🏼
didnt fancy painting mine but after watching you i think i can do that, excelllent to be honest straight out of the box they are too plasticky looking, got to look better
Hi John. Thank you. It really is as easy as it appears and if you think you have gone too far it will wash off if you have not sealed it with any varnish straight away. Cheers
hi Ben hope you are well? sorry for all the messages i may give it go depends i may buy an old 4 wheeled coach 1st to give it a go thanks for sharing keep safe arp
Hi there ,, firstly ,, thankyou for a fantasticly awesome video you put on here for us to watch enjoy and learn from ,, Secondly ,, Is your name Aiden or is that your sons name or did I hear this on another you tube channel ? Anyhoo ,, You have made my day as I have a heap of these oo and ho gresley carriages and there is a difference in the finished product of ie ,, the length and the height of which i only noticed just today when i was packing them away today and as you can see in your video you put on that one is bigger than the other ,, i have a few that are the hornby type made in england and the others are made in china and they have different & finishes and more decals as well ,, i hate to say it but the chinese made ones seem to be a better quality and a tad heavier and more solidly built. I bought 3 of them , then 2 then a job lot of 4 which were cheaper to buy from the UK than here in Australia !! (they were selling them here on ebay for upwards of $140 to $180 aus for a rake of 3 & then I looked on the uk sites and bought a rake of 5 for £41& £18 delivery as a buy it now deal ,, wow sold haha ,, I couldnt click buy it now quick enough) then the next thing I knew I had 25 of them but in all different types of condition and wheel sets or some plastic and mostly steel wheels haha. So honestly this will be a game changer for me and a real god send for me as it will help with my ptsd ie being creative and keeping my mind trained on other things. Again Awesome video and thankyou as you & u said yes you can teach an old dog new tricks.. haha Anyhoo keep up the great videos there m8 ,, Cheers from John in Australia
Hi @John Gibson. Thank you so much, we really appreciate your kind words. This video seems to have helped so many people in upgrading for less. I am so glad I shared it. Yes Aidan is my son and also one of my names haha. It can get quite confusing at times. A lot of people call me Ben to avoid the confusion. ( B after A in the alphabet of course). I have done this now to so many batches that I vary the finish each time for a bit of variation between coaches and mix them up in rakes. After all, no two coaches look perfectly identical. It is such a low cost mod that makes such a difference. I find myself lost in a world of my own when doing these types of mod taking me away from the real world out there. Very enjoyable. Cheers John
@@AidansRailways thanks ben haha ,, i really do like these gresley carriages and i near died of shock when i seen a real gresley coach on google as in its real colour compared to the hornby ones I mean dont get me wrong i love the hornby ones but the colour that you put on your carriages well that will be me in the future and by the way thanks heaps for your video's you post as they are muchly appreciated ,, so keep them coming as we really do love them. Cheers from John in Australia
Hi Thomas. Cool idea. I think if, I convert them to lit coaches I will probably go for rail powered just so I don't have to replace batteries on a regular basis but definitely a cool idea. Cheers
Absolutely brilliant. Great job and looks easy enough. I’ve a rake of 12 of these and I’ll be attempting to do the same. Question? Will you or have you painted the frames and wheels? Thanks for sharing. Graeme. Ireland 😁👍🍀🇨🇮
Hi Graeme. Thank you. There are a little over twenty of these in the collection now. I have made a mixture of variations with these. Some have had the sole bar painted and some not. some have also been weathered, some heavy and some light including roof dirt wheels etc. What I have tried to do is keep as much variation as possible between them all to so they don't look too uniform in appearance when in a rake or rakes. It is very easy and very very little can go wrong that can't be rectified easily. Cheer Graeme, thank you
Hi Steve. I have varied them quite a bit to not have them all looking the same. Some have been left clean white. Some I have given a light or heavy weathering on the roof by just using black or smoke weathering powders and a light pass of satin varnish from a aerosol can to hold it in place. On some others I masked the coach body up and sprayed the roof lightly with umbral sea grey from a aerosol can, similar to they way I did on the build a camping coach video. All of these ways have been used across my fleet and gives a lot of variation across them. Hope this helps. Thank for watching and getting in touch. Cheers
Hi John. I shall give this a go. Great information . This is certainly not the only way to do this but it is a option. I shall purchase some grained effect shortly and give it go. Thank you
Hi. In all honesty I believe you would get away with one as it is so thin. I f you want to be safe you can always get two. The one I used barely used anything to do four initially . It possibly used a quarter of a bottle. Hope this helps
I have to say that our cat never gets involved with the models, but does like to watch them with great interest from a distance. Like yours ours spend's 70% of the day asleep haha
I have just started to give this a go myself having seen the idea on Allan's Dragon Junction MkII. I was thinking about painting the chassis as well and wondering if you know what the redish brown is or something similar that can be used.
Thank you. I have experimented using a terracotta paint from phoenix paints thinned down and it does give the impression of the red sole bar but weathered. Hope this helps