How to Make Monster Mud & Monster Mud Alternatives

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Some would say it’s every Home Haunter’s rite of passage to create a statue or to coat a prop with Monster Mud, but there’s often a question about what it is, how it’s made, how it’s used or how to protect it from the weather.
In this Halloween How to, I’m going to answer all of those questions as well as show you a new Monster Mud alternative called Monster Mud 2.0 or Morbid Mortar. Great for painting tombstone props, graveyard statues and reapers, coating mausoleums, creating texture on props and more.
THANK YOUS:
Davis Graveyard and Shingle Creek Manor for being a constant source of inspiration.
A very special thank you to Gravely MacCabre, of Castle Blood, for validating the details of the haunter history portion of this tutorial and for creating, along with Sarah Black, one of the most iconic (and often replicated) tombstones in all of haunting, "Beloved."
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@colemyst 3 года назад

This is a definite save video. Thanks so much for some great information.

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@fennec7906 Год назад

Do these mud materials get ruined by rainy Halloweens? I guess you have to use water seal?

@BlanckMortuary 3 года назад

Thanks for mentioning Steve Hickman of Terror Syndicate. So many folks who created many of the methods we use are being forgotten.

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

It’s always important to give proper credit.

@gregtracy9322 3 года назад

I was going to say the same thing. I followed Steve's work years and years ago. I learned so much from his early haunts... my brother and I created several monster mud statues in 2000 - 2001 that were neighborhood favorites for years.

@teridemola2386 Год назад

Terror syndicate is one of the best haunted house sites ever.

@erniewyles8832 3 года назад

Monster mud 2.0 is perfect for outdoor stone items, like gravestones. And it holds up to the weather very well.

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

Absolutely.

@123thebasics 2 года назад

I love ❤ the monster mud with joint compound. I used it on a paper mache tombstone and other projects last year..it worked perfectly...even held up in the Florida rain 🙃😆.I'm making more projects & tombstones this year. Thank you 😊 👍🏽👏🏾

@arrowguy173 Год назад

The educational film is fantastic! Love these details you add to your videos.

@double_digit_life.9268 3 года назад

I love the Coronet Film style interlude! Haha. Made me laugh!!!

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

Thanks!!

@auralfixationaudio2190 3 года назад

Great video! Monster mud is amazingly versatile and has such great results for the cost.

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

Definitely!

@karawalkerdesigns167 3 года назад

I’ve never used Monster Mud. Now I want to try. Thank you for the tutorial 👍🏼

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

You’re welcome 😊

@ukemonkey 3 года назад

I never knew about the 2.0 recipe! Excited to try it. 999

@KellyNsGrotto 2 года назад

GASP...thin set...GENIUS!!!

@jessiepapabear4272 3 года назад

I love your videos yet I'd enjoy to see them longer with more detail on instructions with handling of the projects...please! And Thank you for what we do get of you time and skills.

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

Thank you for the feedback. I’m always afraid of the videos running too long. Good to know that’s not the case.

@pikachen 3 года назад

@@VanOaksProps I agree. You're really knowledgeable and I'd love to see longer-length videos from you. I've watched a lot of videos where people do DIY Haunt props and such that are long - but they either don't have the same level of knowledge or don't describe it as well - or there is an audio/camera problem (none of which are an issue with your channel). Please consider longer videos if you're able!

@NeverFourGotten 5 дней назад

Thank you!!! I have been looking for this answer. ❤

@VanOaksProps 5 дней назад

Glad it was helpful!

@ken2391 3 года назад

That's an awesome tutorial and suggestion! I haven't done a traditional monster mud project due to the expense of the joint compound. I'm real interested in the mortar suggestion - THANKS 👍

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!

@jamest684 2 года назад

I use something similar with my props but incorporate latex caulk in too with the latex paint and joint compound.

@kevdogcle9955 Год назад

Thanks for explaining. In how to make this. I was wondering, what they used and what I need to buy this year for my haunt. I'm doing at my house this year.

@president-electjen627 3 года назад

Very interesting!!

@I_am_Matticus 11 месяцев назад

I have a few snakes and I’ve made backgrounds for them using foam boards, unsanded grout and just hitting it with a polycrylic, should work great for a tombstone

@aarongreene810 3 года назад

Another great video thanks for making it 999

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it

@coasterbp 3 года назад

Would love to see a video of you using this with a texture sprayer. Curious as to the result on a wall panel. Great stuff as always.

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@TheWeirdKidShow 2 года назад

Good stuff. I am glad I found it

@VanOaksProps 2 года назад

Welcome aboard!

@godisone4me 3 года назад

Thanks so much for sharing! I'll be trying the 2.0 in my project next month! 😊

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

You bet! Good luck on your project.

@calvinpell6204 2 года назад

Hey. Did u have to add water? I mixed equally the powdered thin set and latex paint and I couldn’t mix it, it got way to dry as soon as I mixed the two

@devilman2465 3 года назад

I would love to see how you apply it to fabric for draping. Some say to dip the fabric some say to brush on.

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

It can be done both ways. It all depends on the application. For our monster mud statue, “Charlotte,” we dressed the body form in a shirt and painted it on. But for the cape and dress we submerged the bedsheets, wrung out the excess and then draped it on the body.

@ChristopherIsWalken Год назад

Thank you so much! Just...thank you

@cessers 3 года назад

Awesome.

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

Thanks!

@susanowen1709 2 года назад

Ugh, I *knew* we had the ratios wrong; no wonder it came out so...gloopy. And great tip on using Thin-Set, definitely gonna give that a try.

@JD-zh4pj 2 года назад

Has anyone tried using regular thinset? I was at HD looking at the recommend surfaces 😂 Regular thinset good over masonry products whereas the modified thinset for masonry, plywood etc. Like to know how well regular thinset would hold up as it’s much cheaper than modified

@costumesforalloccasions 3 года назад

Great job!

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

Thanks!

@costumesforalloccasions 3 года назад

Your welcome!

@brianmoeller3539 3 года назад

My first thoughts about 2.0 Monster Mud was to use it as a replacement for Dry-Loc on tombstones. If you're using Thompson's though, that's just another step and may be better to just stay with the dry-loc for a one coat time savings. Thanks for the video! I know as Halloween is just around the corner, making these and prepping for the haunt is probably a real juggle. Tutorial Request: How to Haunted Radio Prop (I'm dying to know)

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

Drylok is definitely my goto, but ever since they changed formulas it’s been harder to find “Drylok Original.”

@KerriGilpin 3 года назад

Thanks for the history lesson! That was fun! I’ve seen several recipes through the years for monster mud- have you seen or looked into Hypertufa? I think it’s my next test - there’s also several recipes but it’s 1:1:1 usually Portland cement, vermiculite and sand (or peat) +water - you can dunk fabric, lay it on what you want and it ends up a concrete-like finish- or less water and it’s sort of scuptable. Your Monster mud 2.0 kinda reminds me of that! Wonder what the cost difference is... 🤔 keep making vids for sure!!

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it. I haven't looked into hypertufa, but I will now!

@matrixmom3300 3 года назад

The history lesson in the old timey style was so fun! Of the 2 types that brushed on the paper, which is heavier? I know original MM when full dry on a prop weighs the prop down, which you may or may not want. Thanks for the ceramic powder tip. Do they sell in smaller quantities? I only see the premixed mortar in smaller quantity.

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

Brushed on, I’d say original monster mud is heavier. As for dry thinset, I think it’s only 25 or 50lbs bags.

@remlya 3 года назад

Not $5 for 50lb bag of thin set in Canada. $15 at Home Depot and $25 at Lowe’s. But still inexpensive compared to alternatives. Never heard of this, looking forward to trying it out.

@skulkn2670 3 года назад

I'll have to try thin set next time!

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

Go for it!

@CrazyCrafter-le9ge Год назад

I just found this video. I am just starting out in making exterior props for Halloween and learning so much about everything. I knew about DryLock. I have access to all the materials to make either Monster Mud or the 2.0 version. Going to first try upgrading cheap foam tombstones with a better finish and to perfect my skills. Then on to making my own from scratch. As for the protective coating, I am guessing you can use any that are exterior rated (Thompsons, Cabot, Flood, Ready Seal, Behr, or Olympic). Is water-based preferred to oil based?

@VanOaksProps Год назад

That's correct. We've had good luck with Thompson's Water Seal. As for water vs oil, I chose water since everything else is water-based.

@kellyraze4925 3 года назад

Love the 2.0 version defiantly going to have to give it a try. I wasn't sure I understood at the end, do you spray the 2.0 on with the critter spray gun or is that only for the water sealer?

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

The Critter spray gun is just for the Thompson's Water Seal or if you needed to paint a large surface. It's not for the monster mud.

@themetalking691 2 года назад

i enjoy your channel, and look foward to your prop build videos every week. i have a question for you? i would like to make a version of the angel of death cemetery statue in Cleveland,ohio. how do i get that weathered green/teal l00k? if anybody could help it would be greatly appreciated

@VanOaksProps 2 года назад

Try this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RjiPjrqe2J0.html

@dwilmot 3 года назад

What if you use powder joint compound instead of the premix with latex paint? Would we get the same results as the premix joint compound?

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

Good question. I assume it would work but have never tried it.

@hardiehardley 6 месяцев назад

Hey there again big man. Would Thompsons water sealer need to be thinner berore going into a sprayer?

@VanOaksProps 6 месяцев назад

Nope. It's thin like water right out of the can.

@collinriley4005 3 года назад

I can think of 999 uses for Monster Mud!!!

@SuperTonkers 3 года назад

Awesome video! Love the editing style! Giving me old lifestyle video vibes lol. This is the most “to the point” tutorial on Monster mud. These videos can get really long on this subject. We use the 2.0 recipe Awesome job! Ugh always jealous of how awesome Charlotte came out! Your wife did a brilliant job. Giving your skills a run for your money lol😉

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

Thanks! That's exactly what I was going for. I'm glad it came across. Monster Mud is one of those subjects that lots of people know about but seems to be having a resurgence of interest from unfamiliar haunters, so it only seemed appropriate to make a primer for the new batch that wasn't too long, covered the major points, and most importantly didn't tell them what to make with it. Charlotte is great, I'm glad we refreshed her paint last year. She looks better than ever and is really protected from the elements. My wife is 100% my secret weapon.

@denisekatsabanis2590 3 года назад

Great video! Is drylok the same thing? Can you use them interchangeably? Thanks

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

Thanks!! Drylok and monster mud are not interchangeable. Drylok is a commercially available masonry sealer that has a gritty texture that look stone-like, but it’s not rigid like monster mud.

@denisekatsabanis2590 3 года назад

Thank you!

@francescowart6034 6 месяцев назад

What other thin set or mortar mix could you use that doesn't come in such a big bag? 50 lb is a lot. Thank you.

@VanOaksProps 6 месяцев назад

Most, if not all, come in bags that size, unfortunately.

@thicxcsticcy8570 3 года назад

Don’t know if this is a stupid question or not, but I am making two entry cemetery pillars for my haunt this year and I’m a little strapped for cash, do I have to hardcoat my pillars before I add monster mud? Or can monster mud with a waterseal withstand the elements on its own?

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

No. The monster mud is your hard coat and it will absolutely withstand the elements.

@thicxcsticcy8570 3 года назад

VanOaksProps Thanks so much for responding! I really appreciate it.

@4doorvette 10 месяцев назад

Do you use regular non-modified thinset mortar or do you need to to mix with hardener , I was going to buy Home Depot custom blend economical non - modified thin set mortar

@VanOaksProps 10 месяцев назад

non-modified.

@billchamberlin7772 Год назад

Awesome information. One problem though. Thompson’s states that it isn’t to be Applied over paint. If you’re using exterior paint in the mix, technically that should be enough.

@VanOaksProps Год назад

Good to know!

@turnipgirl11 2 года назад

Do you know if this would stick if plastered onto a plastic surface such as polypropylene?

@VanOaksProps 2 года назад

Yes. I've used it to cover plastic garden urns and have had no issues.

@tinalundy7858 11 месяцев назад

So I have a question is there a certain cloth you recommend because I can't wait to try this

@VanOaksProps 11 месяцев назад

We used cotton bedsheets that we found at a second hand store. You’ll want to stay away from synthetic fabrics.

@davidmartin4041 2 года назад

How does the 2.0 hold up to extreme temperatures? I'm going to store my props in a sea can when not in use. Our summers get to 35-40°C and -40°C for winters.

@VanOaksProps 2 года назад

Great question. It's fine in the heat, but I'm not sure about -40°C. It never gets anywhere near that cold in Los Angeles.

@davidmartin4041 2 года назад

@@VanOaksProps thanks for the speedy response. I will test it and let you know after our cold winter

@603VIL 10 месяцев назад

Can I spray on the 2.0 mud with the critter gun? Then, clean with acetone and use the same gun to apply the Thompson's Water Seal?

@VanOaksProps 10 месяцев назад

No. It’s too thick for the critter’s nozzle. You can, however, use it for the water seal

@603VIL 10 месяцев назад

@@VanOaksProps Thank you!

@603VIL 10 месяцев назад

What kind of gun would allow for spraying the 3 to 1 mixture?

@VanOaksProps 10 месяцев назад

@@603VIL you’d need some kind of hopper gun like the kind they use for stucco. Something like this: amzn.to/3PrcQHA

@natashabarney2554 2 года назад

So, could you mix this all in a big tub and soak your cloth in it? Then, pull it out and drape it how you want it?

@VanOaksProps 2 года назад

Absolutely, although you’ll need to squeeze off the excess after you’ve dunked all the fabric.

@natashabarney2554 2 года назад

@@VanOaksProps OK. Great, thanks!😊👍

@geoseward 2 года назад

I want to add creepy cloth onto a halloween prop covered by canvas. I don't want to use monster mud or monster mud alternative because of the weight. I want to coat the creep cloth in some form of mixture which would allow it to drape over the canvas and stiffen-any thoughts?

@VanOaksProps 2 года назад

That's a tough one. The benefit of monster mud or monster mud alternatives is that they protect the material and stiffen it. I think the creepy cloth is thin enough that weight won't be an issue and it'll give you the protection you're looking for.

@bobajeff1138 2 года назад

What about trying a fabric stiffener? I don't know how well it would hold up in outdoor conditions, but it would stiffen the cloth without adding a lot of weight...

@VanOaksProps 2 года назад

@@bobajeff1138 Unfortunately, it wouldn't withstand the exposure to night time moisture.

@bobajeff1138 2 года назад

@@VanOaksProps Gotcha. Even if one were to add Scotchgard Sun and Water Shield, I believe that would be more work than necessary. Thanks, Derek!

@Pippi-Longstocking 3 года назад

For monster mud 2.0 is that ratio volume or weight?

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

I do it by volume.

@elkarelkar8208 3 года назад

When you mix all 3, does the fabric become weather resistant?

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

Yes. The fibers in the fabric absorb the mixture, which is weather resistant and will stiffen as it dries.

@elkarelkar8208 3 года назад

@@VanOaksProps thank you so much

@roncrandall 9 месяцев назад

I'm guessing this mixture hardens. Is there a more flexible mixture, so a prop stone statue can be animated?

@VanOaksProps 9 месяцев назад

That's correct. You'd probably want to go with something like Plastidip and then faux paint the stone coloring over it with acrylic paint.

@roncrandall 9 месяцев назад

@@VanOaksProps excellent idea! Thank you!

@haywardhaunter2620 3 года назад

Nice presentation. What you're calling Monster Mud 2.0 is sometimes known as Morbid Mortar.

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

Love that! Much better than 2.0.

@cowboycalebsteven 3 года назад

I know the 2.0 as "scenic goop" from the theatrical world

@calvinpell6204 2 года назад

The monster mud 2.0. You have to add water to the powdered thin set, right? Do I measure equal parts thin set and paint, then add water to the thin set and then mix the paint and thin set together?

@VanOaksProps 2 года назад

Nope. You mix the dry powder with the latex paint.

@calvinpell6204 2 года назад

@@VanOaksProps then it can’t be 1 to 1. As soon as I start mixing it, it gets so pasty so quickly and I can’t mix it anymore.

@VanOaksProps 2 года назад

You’re looking for pancake batter consistency. So if 1:1 is too thick, then add more paint. Also, don’t mix too much at a time since it may start to setup before you’ve been able to apply it.

@VanOaksProps 2 года назад

Also, 1:1 is for filling voids. 1:2 or 1:3 is the ratio for brush on applications

@johnniewoodard648 3 года назад

Hello, I am making some outdoor animatronic props, is there a flexible waterproof version?

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

Not that I'm aware of.

@johnniewoodard648 3 года назад

@@VanOaksProps yeah, I was afraid of that. Looks like I will have to build a shelter of some sort for them. Thanks for the reply.

@VeganBattleBot 2 года назад

For Monster Mud 2.0, does Thin-Set also go by "Thin-Set Mortar"? Thank you!

@VanOaksProps 2 года назад

Yes. Same product.

@VeganBattleBot 2 года назад

@@VanOaksProps Thank you!

@michelleshirley9560 2 года назад

Will polyurethane work instead of Thompson water seal?

@VanOaksProps 2 года назад

It should.

@NightRaid012 3 года назад

For the ratios are we talking by weight or volume?

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

Great question. It’s by volume.

@virsaglib3 3 года назад

Can modified thinset be used for 2.0 verson?

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

The thinset I used is a modified thinset, so yes.

@RyanLoetscher Год назад

What about using drylok over the 2.0… making props that are gonna have to be outside year round.

@VanOaksProps Год назад

You could absolutely do that.

@RyanLoetscher Год назад

@@VanOaksProps thanks sir. I must say as a haunter that is just going pro… and a 20 year professional editor and producer… you channel is THE best. I had been toying with doing a channel as I learn more because I’m so used to seeing the amateur video work… then I saw your channel and was, welp, there ya go lol. Well done.

@wildehunt 10 месяцев назад

I wondered if you have ever run into fabric that the monster mud won’t take to? I’m working on a piece using an old wedding dress and the MM is actually flaking off the skirt! 😳 I’m kinda shocked and am wonder if the fabric was scotch guarded or something. 🤔

@VanOaksProps 10 месяцев назад

I think natural fabrics, like cotton, do better than synthetics.

@wildehunt 10 месяцев назад

@@VanOaksProps damn. I didn’t expect to have a Teflon skirt. I hope I can salvage this. It’s some sort of satin🤣

@wildehunt 10 месяцев назад

@@VanOaksProps ok, I threw away the skirt, started over, and got the best results using the joint compound version of MM. I think the added bit of latex in that copes better with fabrics.

@raybellows9851 Год назад

Is this similar to Rosco Foamcoat?

@VanOaksProps Год назад

Not sure. I’ve never used it.

@danmiller781 3 года назад

Would you recommend a 1-1 ratio of thin-set if I've dripping fabric into it? Like always, I really enjoyed your video and appreciate you sharing your prop knowledge!

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

I’d say 1:2 for dipping.

@danmiller7505 3 года назад

@@VanOaksProps Thanks again. Can't wait till next Saturday

@jesseallen3981 3 года назад

@@VanOaksProps what is the work time for the 2.0?

@VanOaksProps 3 года назад

@@jesseallen3981 It's a decent amount of time, although It can shorten depending on the weather. I've had it workable for 20 minutes on an 80 degree day and 10 minutes on a 100 degree day. The working time also depends on your ratio. The more paint, the longer the working time.

@jesseallen3981 3 года назад

@@VanOaksProps Its currently 80 in Tulsa and dropping as sun sets. I want t to get my reaper done tonite. Theyre calling for low 50s tonite so should I bring it inside after I get the mud on or will it be OK left out.