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How to make Stupidly Strong Space Marines in Hoi4 

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People were asking me how it is that I made my Space marine units so I wanted to show and explain just how broken and powerful these things can be.
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@Nikarus2370
@Nikarus2370 2 года назад
Minor thing. I think it's funny that for years people have complained about how unrealistic the "Space marine" division is when... isn't that exactly what Churchill, Matilda, and Valentine were designed for... to have a few battalions (regiments, companies, whatever the term is) built into infantry divisions to give them some armor/firepower on the front line separate from dedicated armor/cavalry units? (See also the couple dozen or more Shermans tacked onto almost every US infantry division.)
@eazy8579
@eazy8579 2 года назад
That’s exactly what those tanks were designed for and how the Sherman, and frankly any capable tank, was indeed mostly used, since that’s kinda the basic premise of Combined Arms (supporting arms made up of disparate units working together In close battle)
@greywolf5590
@greywolf5590 2 года назад
Well the Sherman was especially good in that because for almost everything you want to do there's a Sherman for that and yes that includes launching ballistic missiles.
@dragon12234
@dragon12234 2 года назад
Yeah, the British term for it was Infantry Tank (often overlap with Heavy Tank). They also had Cruiser Tanks, which were the more typical Breakthrough tank
@gamerfrienship6206
@gamerfrienship6206 2 года назад
@@greywolf5590 as stakuyi said: "you want something done? We got a sherman for that, you want this other thing done? We got a sherman fot that."
@rafael_pinto
@rafael_pinto 2 года назад
You just have to see Fury and the Anti-Tank Fight scene, the Shermans were shielding the infantry and wiping out the machine guns
@13gan
@13gan 2 года назад
Since its on Earth aka Holy Terra, would probably be better to call them Thunder Warriors, just for the RP.
@ARCCommanderOrar
@ARCCommanderOrar 2 года назад
My friend loves his infantry attacks early game.... I think I'm going to try this. Wish me luck
@stakuyi
@stakuyi 2 года назад
I wish you luck
@ARCCommanderOrar
@ARCCommanderOrar 2 года назад
It went well... till he figured out what I was doing. I still rolled him though :)
@stakuyi
@stakuyi 2 года назад
@@ARCCommanderOrar HA, I’m glad it worked out
@floridaman4073
@floridaman4073 5 месяцев назад
You’ll shred your buddy.
@Serkon_
@Serkon_ 2 года назад
Time to use this, and see what disasters I can (and will) cause
@robfulton3909
@robfulton3909 2 года назад
New to hoi 4 and this has really helped with understanding templates. Alot of vids focus on just width and not strategies for how and when to use them.
@stakuyi
@stakuyi 2 года назад
I’ll try and make more
@AA_RonYT
@AA_RonYT 2 года назад
@@stakuyi please bro idek how to make good tanks
@cupcakeeater3462
@cupcakeeater3462 Год назад
@@AA_RonYT just max out whatever stat you want and minimize costs from there
@Ethan-iv8fs
@Ethan-iv8fs 2 года назад
I like this. Its a good meme. I am experimenting with creating divisions that use aa instead of artillery (with the exception of maybe a suport company) it seems interesting tbh. Loose out on soft attacks bit gain antiair and peircing. Its really neat but not going to be as well rounded as a 7-2 or something
@erke7835
@erke7835 2 года назад
Back before NSB I used to build 40 width tanks with 4 SPAA. It was ridiculous, I could legitimately destroy air forces with just four of these divisions, I miss SPAA being good
@svdm4004
@svdm4004 2 года назад
@@erke7835 SPAA only attacks planes during ground combat.
@erke7835
@erke7835 2 года назад
@@svdm4004 You don't say Sherlock
@svdm4004
@svdm4004 2 года назад
@@erke7835 You still need an air force if you're trying to kill fighters and strategic bombers, otherwise you will just be killing cas.
@erke7835
@erke7835 2 года назад
@@svdm4004 Valid argument, but the main idea was not to kill the air force but to make tank go zoom despite red air and not only did it make them go zoom but they also shot down literally hundreds of planes per battle they were involved in
@jamesh3775
@jamesh3775 2 года назад
You should compare this to light tank recon and maybe a flame tank.
@floridaman4073
@floridaman4073 5 месяцев назад
Same thing, 24w inf, LT recon with a high velocity cannon, up graded armor and a flame tank with upgraded armor will give low 20’s armor and 30+ piercing. Very powerful. However for simplicity sake just build a medium with a high velocity cannon. 😂
@saomoon
@saomoon 10 месяцев назад
There is the better way, you can create medium tank template and set anti air on it, then your space marines will destroy planes also
@tijmenwillard2337
@tijmenwillard2337 2 года назад
Actually, Riveted armor with four points and armored skirts would probably be cheaper, give a lot more breakthrough (very useful on a space marine as infantry doesn't have a lot of it), but still give around the same armor value. Adding one extra ammunition storage also wouldn't hurt
@guncolony
@guncolony 2 года назад
With 50 tanks you can go down to 60% reliability without suffering any extra losses, so you can put 3 extra ammunitions and add a few armor upgrades
@tijmenwillard2337
@tijmenwillard2337 2 года назад
@@guncolony where did you get that information from? I was under the impression that the boundary was 80% at 50 pieces of equipment
@guncolony
@guncolony 2 года назад
@@tijmenwillard2337 the wiki has been updated recently, it also shows that reliability doesn't matter whatsoever on flame tanks so you can just start stacking extra ammunition storage on them
@tijmenwillard2337
@tijmenwillard2337 2 года назад
@@guncolony Yes, but flame tanks use only 15 pieces. Not 50
@raider4914
@raider4914 2 года назад
Very informative, thanks!
@fidoruh
@fidoruh 2 года назад
I would love seeing more of these indepth ones.
@royalwolf7115
@royalwolf7115 Год назад
I did a Space Marine design for France, and managed to hold off Germany & Italy until late 1940 before capitulating. Because of the focus tree and the debuffs that France had, I was only able to put 5 mils on heavy. But here's a twist: it was an inter-war heavy. The Char B1, but with army xp, I modified it so that it is virtually impenetrable unless you have level 2 AT. It's got medium howitzer, fixed turret, and I buffed the armour to 61.9. But because I had to put 15 mils on fighter 1 to mitigate the CAS damage, I was only able to get 6 division out before the war. But with those 6 divisions (the basic infantry division+heavy tank+extra artillery) and an extra 6 light tank divisions (the tanks+motorised inf one, don't use the other one, the stats on the TANK only div was horrendous), I was able to hold Germany until 1940 when they overwhelmed me doing it the Soviet way: throwing so much body onto the field that I ran out of guns. In the end though, the kill ratio was 3:10 which was better than I thought. When Paris was under attack, I threw in 3 space marines and 2 light tanks and managed to hold onto the city for a few months before I got reinforce memed. I got to say, now I understand why MP forbid the Space Marines because it was OP as F.
@floridaman4073
@floridaman4073 5 месяцев назад
Release your nations and you can recruit 48 plus divisions btw. Do that and you can hold them both back. Put mountaineers space marines on your border with Italy. Vietnam is especially good for manpower. But draw from as many as you can. There is a lot of manpower in newly created puppets. As the Dutch you have lots of Indonesian recruit ability.
@spartanking1188
@spartanking1188 2 года назад
Thanks! This will help me a lot
@1Maklak
@1Maklak 2 года назад
I was going to say that if you do this, you might as well get a much better tank for 7-10 production, but then I saw that it only needs 1 Steel to make. Yes, this is indeed a cheap way to improve the basic infantry for a minor with oil. :)
@jonathans.955
@jonathans.955 2 года назад
Sometimes I also use sp artillery. I add a bit of armore in them and put them in the infantry with the other night tanks
@sebastianl8848
@sebastianl8848 Год назад
So basically. "You're up against the wall, and I am the wall"
@crushcommando8637
@crushcommando8637 2 года назад
Question, what doctrine works best with this? Im unsure if you go down mobile warfare (id assume mobile infantry cuz the tank isnt the focus) or maybe superior firepower?
@stakuyi
@stakuyi 2 года назад
Superior firepower because of how much support you will be stacking
@crushcommando8637
@crushcommando8637 2 года назад
@@stakuyi Appreciate it! I remember you from my short escapade on Tiktok, glad to see you making enjoyable content here on youtube!
@Tommuli_Haudankaivaja
@Tommuli_Haudankaivaja 2 года назад
I like to make cost effective light tanks for my infantry. I can make the damn things give enough armor and soft attack for a small production cost.
@SkipSkoop
@SkipSkoop 2 года назад
Could you make a quick overview of microing front lines and how to make encirclements?
@176SelfridgeCompositeSquadron
@176SelfridgeCompositeSquadron 2 года назад
Retreat, merge units, break certain line, surrounded push them in, and head smaller units towards other countries.
@INSANESUICIDE
@INSANESUICIDE 2 года назад
You could just make a light tank build focused on armor and break through and slap that as a support unit, much cheaper than a line unit of medium tanks.
@daballoon6638
@daballoon6638 Год назад
They nerfed light tanks
@martinbowers6852
@martinbowers6852 2 года назад
To take this one further could you not use heavies? Perhaps some light armor recon and light flame tanks if you have sufficient production?
@AlvorReal
@AlvorReal 2 года назад
Late game it’s fun to use super heavy tanks for that, or even sh spgs.
@ancaoraathasach
@ancaoraathasach 2 года назад
Would this be worth using to get the Soviet Union achievement for beating Germany after they beat the French?
@floridaman4073
@floridaman4073 5 месяцев назад
Just throw on a high velocity cannon on your support armor recon and you won’t need the extra slot on support for AT. Bit more expensive but worth it in the long run
@radekskoczylas7483
@radekskoczylas7483 2 года назад
U good guy. U deserve a like :3
@isaacjohnstanton3155
@isaacjohnstanton3155 2 года назад
Would you also dedicate time and factory’s to create land forts or is that not needed when using the brick
@user-or5lj4pv1s
@user-or5lj4pv1s 2 года назад
Hey, I've got a question! Which tank and infantry divisions should I make for mobile warfare doctrine? I always used space marines as germany but now i wanna go for something more historically accurate, so would be grateful if you did a video on that
@thegoodwillseventyseven
@thegoodwillseventyseven 2 года назад
Tank template: 13 Medium Tanks and 8 Motorized. Support companies: Maintenance for enemy equipment when mopping up pockets, Support Arty for more soft attack, Support AA for Piercing and Breakthrough, Light Tank Recon for more breakthrough, and Engineers for more speed. Don't use Brick tanks, as Germany you can get Panzer 4 variants with the Treaty with the USSR focus if you have research 1934 Mediums. Infantry: Holding divisions that hold the line but can push after the opponents are severely weakened by encirclements from tanks. 9 infantry and one arty with support Arty and Engineers. Make sure you build your air force big enough to gain superiority.
@LordLuko-rd7pc
@LordLuko-rd7pc 10 дней назад
nice one
@benkinkopf4407
@benkinkopf4407 2 года назад
You should check out the end of a new beginning
@LegendStormcrow
@LegendStormcrow 2 года назад
The Emperor protects
@khongo1018
@khongo1018 Год назад
Quick question does this still work after the latest patches. I only play single player and my thoughts are making a division that is 9 inf, 2 art, 1 aa and 1 medium tank. Medium tank will be much improved over the brick though with an emphasis on soft attack. Support companies medium flamer, logistics, art support, maintenance maybe engineer or would armored recon be better?
@floridaman4073
@floridaman4073 5 месяцев назад
Yes, 2024 and it still works.
@rodebertrotklang7594
@rodebertrotklang7594 Год назад
Just a Question, Wouldnt it be viable to invest a little bit more for lets say a AA-Tank? Yes its more cost intensive. BUT you would get a tank battalion which could actually be some kind of use besides providing some Armor! AND the juicy thing about this is, per Battalion you would come more cheap, because you dont need 50 med tanks but you need only 36 AA-Tanks. Which makes up for the higher cost. So you could drop a AA-Support slot, and the produktion for it! The drawback is, evry blown up tank, drops the Armor for the whole battalion more!
@FlierEmblem_
@FlierEmblem_ 11 месяцев назад
Did you make a follow up/newer video now that the 1934 medium tank doesn’t exist? Do we just use 1936 light?
@liamcarnahan1346
@liamcarnahan1346 2 года назад
The brick goal is just supposed to be mobile cover
@gold__ore
@gold__ore 2 года назад
What is the naval strategy for playing as Germany? Navy is something I am a bit puzzled with.
@davidg5041
@davidg5041 2 года назад
You can keep your Space Marines. Cadia stands
@haydenfrance4945
@haydenfrance4945 2 года назад
What is the best late game version of this template
@gamergamer7515
@gamergamer7515 9 дней назад
What doctrine works best with this division?
@Sunday_fits
@Sunday_fits Год назад
I love the Italian hand gestures throughout the video, thank yow for the guide!
@davidsmith8826
@davidsmith8826 2 года назад
Does this work without purchasing the dlc?
@RudislavRudolfus
@RudislavRudolfus 13 дней назад
what dlc are u using in the video? i have only 3 dlc's for resistance, no step back and man the guns. What is the dlc that gives u the ability for exmple put artilery under infantry in divison designer, i cant do that, i need to put it in a new row. what dlc is that?
@lucienmuller4951
@lucienmuller4951 7 дней назад
@@ininnials What do you mean ?
@daballoon6638
@daballoon6638 Год назад
I'm a bit late but I have a question do you improve the medium tank the further u get into the game?
@JackoBanon1
@JackoBanon1 Год назад
With time the enemy piercing and CAS damage rises so you have to counter it by making upgraded tanks with higher armor to keep it effective. Even switching to heavy tanks might be necessary. Otherwise you'll lose a lot of tanks with time.
@B00bik
@B00bik 2 года назад
MMM yes combined arms
@-John-Doe-
@-John-Doe- Год назад
It’s just an Infantry Tank as opposed to a Cavalry Tank.
@soldier.gaming-0936
@soldier.gaming-0936 2 года назад
Have you ever done a video in multiplayer Hoi4?
@stakuyi
@stakuyi 2 года назад
i do twitch streams in multiplayer
@soldier.gaming-0936
@soldier.gaming-0936 2 года назад
@@stakuyi ok
@roantuck5154
@roantuck5154 2 года назад
can you do latvia please
@savelijfc4784
@savelijfc4784 2 года назад
If i am playing a Major Power with more Industry will it be worth it to maybe upgrade the Turret or Armor?
@SlekensuOfficial
@SlekensuOfficial 2 года назад
Bro its your choice but again as this guy said it depends the Situation
@cravingtuna1561
@cravingtuna1561 2 года назад
It may be worth it after 43 to match the enemy tech advancement. If you keep it as it is then after a certain point the simple brick tank will not be making a difference since the enemy will be able to penetrate it
@DatBoi_TheGudBIAS
@DatBoi_TheGudBIAS 2 года назад
I like to use a light tonk support, it might not be as efficient, but if u do a kind of gud light tank with max Armour, u can get 15-20 Armour and ull get soft attak, defense and breaktru
@drubolis
@drubolis Год назад
11:52 10:36 tagging important parts for myself lol
@crispy_beva4065
@crispy_beva4065 2 года назад
Do Corssack king
@---ii8hl
@---ii8hl 2 года назад
and after you are done with these, you can retrofit them into actual tanks... its stupidly overpowered. same with 2.6ic light tanks being best garrison.
@alexcameron1746
@alexcameron1746 Год назад
Is this just a Bradley?
@dylanram4653
@dylanram4653 Месяц назад
wo9uldnt it be better to put it as a recon company
@xXxMonkeyBoomxXx
@xXxMonkeyBoomxXx 2 года назад
How is your medium so cheap ? Mine medium with basic equipment is 8.7 production cost.
@stakuyi
@stakuyi 2 года назад
Are you using 1934 tech? The basic?
@traviskovacs193
@traviskovacs193 2 года назад
Do you play any 40k? You strike me as a Militarum player.
@nategalligan1855
@nategalligan1855 2 года назад
I would love to see him use this strat in multiplayer and see how well it goes.
@stakuyi
@stakuyi 2 года назад
I might try it on this Saturday’s HOI4 stream then
@inf1tyblade967
@inf1tyblade967 2 года назад
So basically, an apc?
@glassact4179
@glassact4179 2 года назад
Can you play iran and reform the persian empire ?
@stakuyi
@stakuyi 2 года назад
i did just do Afghanistan so I will have to see about iran later
@bigchezzy8989
@bigchezzy8989 2 года назад
Yes you can.
@MrTdg2112
@MrTdg2112 17 часов назад
I just bought the game on sale with "starter set" DLC a week or two ago. Now that I'm watching all these videos learning to play it, I am more and more annoyed at how unrealistic and broken by exploits like this the game is. I feel like it promises all this detailed realism, but in the end it's just super filled with details that aren't relevant to the source material. At least I didn't blow more than 20 bucks.
@daviddav5128
@daviddav5128 Месяц назад
What if I don't have any DLCs
@minecraftaxol
@minecraftaxol Год назад
Why doesnt it work anymore
@________________________5901
@________________________5901 2 года назад
I wanna see you play as the Soviet Union
@________________________5901
@________________________5901 2 года назад
“If the world revolution succeed”
@Aiphiae
@Aiphiae Год назад
Is this considered an exploit or a cheat? It seems so strong.
@beastboy0078
@beastboy0078 2 года назад
im currently playing Italy trying to "Conquer the world" or at least around Italy. any tips would be VERY helpful. "Also. thanks for the Brick. Kay-BY~E!"
@somfing4872
@somfing4872 2 месяца назад
Why not light tank?
@Migs1023
@Migs1023 Месяц назад
Not cost efficient
@minxx8594
@minxx8594 2 года назад
So basically you created an A.P.C. Rather than a tank?
@SuperAzoz99
@SuperAzoz99 2 года назад
That's what I also thought, its basically a ww2 APC
@ChewieMuse
@ChewieMuse Год назад
Still got rolled by germany in less than 2 months with this build.. not understanding this at all, in all my runs Germany is running 30 pierce so easily taking out the brick tanks
@JACKSON298
@JACKSON298 2 года назад
Day 5 of asking you to play as Andorra in Road to 56
@chidaluokoro9104
@chidaluokoro9104 2 года назад
yo
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