HI Phil, been a while since you posted this Video. To let you know, I tied up a dozen of these rigs last weekend. Kept the hook length short at 12 and 15 inch. I fished on the East Yorkshire coast last evening/night (oct 06 2021) with a friend. We had a dozen Cod between us with half of them on the top hook. A great rig that works very well. Cheers and Beers. Andy.
Nice rig mate ,that's exactly how we rig our surf fishing snoods here in South Australia,in fact a sliding hook is only used when using live baits and adjusted to accommodate the size of the baitfish being used.
Yep great video , I have modified mine on the rig body . Instead of a swivel I use a trident termalink so I can quickly clip on fresh hook length / bait .
That stop knot is brilliant - no more fiddling with power gum 😉 I’ve always preferred a fixed pennel - your method for doing this looks great. Tight lines 👍
Thanks Peter. The first semi fixed pulleys I made were with power gum but I found it a bit unpredictable. It was either too tight, too loose or it just unravelled. This neoprene tubing is perfect for the job 👍🏼
@@BanditFishingUK ; indeed, powergum is good but, as you say, unpredictable to get exact tension and fiddly to use. I’m primarily a carp angler but find myself moving more to the “freedom” of sea fishing and I like eating fish ! It’s amazing how sea rigs and tackle have become much more refined over the years. Keep the videos coming, I’m learning a lot 👍
Hi Phil thanks for sharing the video as well as all the other videos to help us catch more fish.Ive made up several lengths of pulley rigs with the pennel hook sliding, but I'm definitely going to tie some of these pulley rigs up.Thanks again for sharing and like watching all your other videos top angling guys 👍
Nice one, i use pulleys alot,never thought about knotless knoting the pennal hook,i have tried the same way you did the tubing by putting thru twice and sliding it..but the fixed is a great idea! Great stuff that tubing!!
Very enjoyable and informative video making the rig clear for any angler to follow.... KEEP the video coming going through your back log of videos... :)
Thanks lads me and my 13 year old son used thes rigs last week at two and a half foot on the Mersey I had an 8.5 thorny an my lad had a 10.8 thorny plus a load more my lad in next months sea Angler also can see the fish on Mersey reels thanks lads👍
Thanks for the Video mate. What main line do you use? It is an awesome rig. I would recommend implementing a canny link (holds the lead while you cast everything and releases the lead on impact with the water) with 25lb mono going from your imp to the lead. This is so that if you snag, you loose your lead and keep the rig + the fish!
Main line is anything from 18lb to 30lb depending where we are fishing. We both like rovex mainline but also use Berkeley, tronix and other makes. I have been using 20lb Berkeley xts recently and I am impressed. The Berkeley big game is another good one. For the rotten bottom we add our preferred system if required, as we set up. I prefer an upside-down rig clip and Lloyd uses a different type of clip. You can clip anything to an imp as it’s basically a lead link. Thanks for watching 👍🏼
Yes we generally use longer pulleys for rays. Lloyd likes a 30 inch pulley and I use them as long as 5 foot long when clipped up. I like up and over rigs when I’m fishing off high rocks or a steep beach to make sure the bait is on the bottom. When fishing a flat beach a pulley is fine as the angle of the line is such that any rig is flat on the bottom. Cheers 🎣
HI Phil. Another good video, nice and clear info. I see you use 70lb for hook lengths. Is this because you may pick up Congers during a session. Do you think this will cause less line twist/tangles in the tide. As I mentioned on previous reply, I have been trying out the bottom hook whipped on to change the hooking angle, I am using 30lb for hook lengths with rigs between 20" and 30"and 70lb main body. The 1st thing I have found with my trial is, when the hook has lost the bait due to pin whiting, crabs etc. The bottom hook is sitting at an angle and I feel it is causing some line twist. I did lose a couple of fish on the way in which makes me think twice about going back to normal knots on the bottom hook. I will be out early Friday morning and have another go on the Humber close to Grimsby. Very much like your last video from the Severn Beach. I will let you know how that one goes and whether I will re tie all my rigs again. :-).. Andy Scoey.
Yes Andy, you are spot on. The thicker line gives you more abrasion resistance against fish teeth from conger and other fish which you might pick up. Also it gives you more confidence if you have to lift a fish out by the line on some marks. The other point is is also correct about helping to save on tangles. I don’t find cod, or many sea fish in general, are line shy. It makes sense to err on the cautious side and use heavier (and therefore stiffer) line where possible. To put it in perspective I use 30lb or more snoods for whiting and flatfish! Let us know how your latest rig experiment goes. Cheers 👍🏼
@@BanditFishingUK HI Phil, maybe it is the coarse/match fishing in me. I use 20lb in the summer for flats./bass etc and started on 30lb in winter for Cod. I will try 50lb for hook length. It all seems wrong and much to thick to me. One day I may succumb to the Sea fishing full on. LOL.. Tight lines to you guys as well. Andy
Hi Bandit Phil !Awesome video again pal , quick question you made your body + snood from the same material is there a reason for that i only ask as i like to use sakuma 60 lbs rig body and use a 50 lbs fluro snood (I m a X carper and old habits die hard ! ) i fish Berk fire line braid straight though no leader , cast with fixed spools, chucks like champagne dude ! would my choice of materials be ok with your stop knot , but a little longer as i said i dont use a leader and i like a aprox 3 1/2 " - 4 ' drop on the cast ! anyways top notch video as always 5***** many thank M....
Yes, your choice of lines will be fine. Don’t go under 50lb for a rig body or snood because obviously it’s going to be a weak link when it comes to casting otherwise. There’s no reason why I used the same material in this demo. I use various makes and strengths of leader but this line is fine for everything. We don’t use braid around here as it doesn’t fare very well with the rough rock bottom but I know up the North East it’s often the go to method. You will be fine casting with your set up as long as your braid is strong enough to cast your leads of choice. Go for roughly 10lb in strength per ounce of lead and add 10lb at least.
@@BanditFishingUK thank you bandit boys always a pleasure to watch your adventures and building video's , just to let you know I am a northerner but I have lived in your neck of the woods for 20+ years now just taken up the salt side of angling and I'm base in Llanelli , so hopefully one day we may cross paths so thank you again for your input and tight lines always , all the best M... !
Nice one mate, I was born a sea fisherman cause of my old man so dont know any carp knots. I will try this out on my pulley rigs and see if I notice a difference. Can you tell me the advantages of having a stop knot and why the tension helps? Also why do you prefer a fixed pennel hook? Thank you.
The tension helps because the fish feel the hook much more quickly instead of having the free run of a standard pulley body. The fixed pennel helps because it can’t be slid down the snood by fish that play about with the bait. Often when a fish is lost on a standard pulley you’ll find the top hook has slid down the snood and the line will be in a mess. The ultimate rig for hook ups is a fixed paternoster with a single fixed hook in my opinion but this version of the pulley rig gives you the best of both rigs. Maybe you can experiment by adding a sliding stop to some of your rigs, fixing hooks on others and maybe use both on some more. You can make your own mind up about which you prefer then. Thanks for the comment Alex and tight lines!
@@BanditFishingUK cheers for explaining - I will definitely try it out next time I'm fishing whenever this lockdown ends! I normally fish twice a week - it's going to be hard work spending all this time with the old woman lol
It’s hard for all of us. We’ve been locked down for a while in Wales already. Just keep busy making rigs and cleaning your reels and we’ll be back to it in no time 👍🏼🎣
We don’t have any more problems with tangles than we do with a standard pulleys and yes amnesia is another good snood line but it is quite thick for its strength 👍🏼
We don’t sell any rigs sorry! We can just about make enough for ourselves. We’ll make some tutorials so that it will be a bit easier for you to copy 👍🏼
