How to modify the Portafilter DeLonghi Dedica EC685 using a non pressurized filter basket and test. 

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@@ArtyHome can you use the brown portafilter with the machine without modifying the original? Thanks

Which Graef do you have? I wish to buy Graef cm702 if it is good enough.

​@@emrahdaglik357don't buy a graef, just go with a good hand grinder like a timemore or smth, the burrs will be better and it's generally higher quality. It can also be a stepping stone while you save up a bit more to get smth like the sage smart grinder pro or df54 or one of those really good Chinese white label 40mm conical grinders

Where did you buy it?

Link please?

​@@JamesTock here too

It depends on the density of the bean, lighter roasts and beans grown at high altitude are usually more dense, therefore you can get more grams of coffee in, whereas dark roasted coffee that's grown at lower altitude is less dense and you can't get as many grams in to your basket

I think it is a small cup for Bartender, but the name is Dosing cup, with a dosing ring. The distributor is just a coffee distributor, you can google it. But if you need to know the name, I think only Arty Home know :D

With pressurized ur grind size isnt a big factor cause of the pressure build from the one tiny hole the basket has. With unpressurized you create pressure with ur grind size and you need a good grinder for that. Not a blade one.

Yes

www.ebay.com/itm/1-Cup-Coffee-Filter-Basket-Non-Pressurized-For-Breville-Delonghi-Krups-51mm/293606514416?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item445c4fdef0:g:KVcAAOSwNX1e3e2E&amdata=enc%3AAQAFAAACgBaobrjLl8XobRIiIML1V4Imu%252Fn%252BzU5L90Z278x5ickkvjzWOStkxwnlDuxSI1PVVpJcXcjI5piPjmul%252Bo1CmFcdn9pgfDXR6nhylnbDp9IY%252Fg2jpWsD6%252FUrNGAWP3cPVh7AsdzhSU8DpmzRi%252BPjzmHdaUNF5pQR1V3BB6NcHoI2NdWj5f51AM7zmVi56fWP7XsLuv%252FWwy01efKgTgdrbRfBgrvUVr7wbcQeQniqWIIUBm6pEK4w4mUwh3lGYD5HRPJWweWEI0PELzaqTAL4uts7FgZ7R%252FYM8NEr%252BvE0OsXW5d4vu4Y7mMre%252F%252B%252FKvD5St182D0IUhEjmj%252BjIhQmQmc3JWH8zHTSvxKOKmfYkeGEooqZleAw%252Fh5%252BfpD6C2mFOjkDlt4x9qih%252FBfsmY%252B5iFRtoOG2zyz1U5tZdOzkumNoxSctRIU0S5wUenLFdPeN0CHSCjwgQ9B3DH7FfQtzcvY2DNEnzKEr6LBn65Pzx7U1SVvwzyz6o%252B0vkcUm%252B%252B93q7%252Bt426IQFCTkV5QOQq1H9pAlh%252FiqLk%252FveCYYiRJoKfXQjU%252FZtr6qxXgAErHJ%252BQ04LlOHelsxWiIvDK3Fndrg%252BBo8%252BJeK%252BO%252BOyoqU05BQ4VqmUH%252B64EbckK%252FVA%252Fw9SxR58d%252BZM%252BfwgxRKZXFgnREPlqNc99D0%252F3xEy%252BCvP0fCAeEyOnGXbYJrPESJqqUefcMXpM03XvSY2ou7cTKpLpdx7rFZX0l6C5Br8MlXuCCWIX%252B3SFvTBx0k7rRoKuwGC2BGtbMDdz6QnuwJsSCs4YouhNb8m9odoGm9k%252FVtSMjw%252BVxCm4xWs0m8wMd9IF6acYAWxH9BuB7%252BTx4PTAZOMtfMXTg%253D%7Ccksum%3A293606514416b2f2602bb5634ced84c3dad04af0d8a7%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2334524

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I haven't tried. I'm going to try it soon.

There's a comment on another RU-vid video that a guy teaches how to fix this. I can't find it right now, but if you google search you might get some results. The TLDR is to put your machine upside down (get the water out first, obviously) and then press the bottom (now up) against the machine itself and at the same time press the button. I did it to my machine and it worked. One piece of advice: after it, just leave the machine on stand-by mode forever, don't use the power button anymore, just leave it "on" and when you need to turn it on, just press one of the top button and it wakes up from stand-by mode.

@@pedroleal8543 I didnt know there was a standby option so i figured that out on how to but ill try to fix the button myself i think aswell just to get that out of the way. Thanks for taking the time!

@@hazeyhead No problem. Meanwhile, I found the comment: "For anyone coming here looking for help with an inoperable power switch - I removed the bottom cover of my machine and noticed that the plastic housing of the machine interferes with the plastic switch. When I had it upside down the switch would engage properly. If your switch doesn't click and stay `on', try turning the machine upside down and/or pressing down on the base while pushing in the switch."

@@pedroleal8543 my solution to prevent the problem is never to switch the power off. it goes off automatically after 9 mins only

I just tried and had some filters from a La Pavoni 51mm. Removed the plastic completely and poured a shot. The espresso was flowing from the top as well so that does not work unless the filter is fully compatible with EC685. The filter basket mentioned in the description of this video is also NOT compatible according to the Amazon description of the product.

I can clearly see the difference of the bottomless portafilter when it is not tamp hard enough. Or grind coarse coffee beans, the liquid will splash around. As for the taste and temperature, I don't think much of a difference.

@@ArtyHome Thanks for your reply. And also thanks for your nice videos Is there a need to seal the cutted black plastic part to the aluminium part? Otherwise there will get some coffee in between. Do you have there any issue?

@@steffenlehmann3610 agree, when its cut, there is no seal.. this will affect cleaning process too. too tedious

for the first 6-8 seconds let your steam wand hover right above the milk line while you hear that "paper tearing" sound, and from there, you can let your wand down into the milk a centimeter or so and let the milk form a vortex. This textures the milk and you can never have too much of it. Do that until the pitcher is too hot to touch, and then you're ready.

It should. It will be a tad more difficult to steam milk, but you'll get much better results

yes, it works so much better than the original one

Try removing the Panarello maker from the cappuccinatore. The rubber nozzle remains on the cappuccino maker. Secure this nozzle with a plastic cable tie. In this form, milk is whipped much better.

It takes some practice but you get way better, dense foam with this wand. It's a bit of work to replace the wand, I'd say medium difficulty. If you've taken apart electronics in the past it's actually fairly easy and you'd be done in 45 minutes total (taking into account at least two screw-ups). Easiest way would be to remove the instant-throther nossle and secure the rubber piece inside to the wand with a tie-rip like the other dude said. It's just a little less gracious in looks.

What wand is that ?

I think there is a chance that some liquid will flow through this gap.

@@ArtyHome Спасибо. Удачи.

True, but drilling that hole is a little tricky without mangling the basket. I did that, and the metal was harder to cleanly drill than I thought it would be.

I ordered the 18g basket and made some modifications to the portafilter. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nSAoIWBuljY.html

@@ArtyHome Yeah I understood the modifiying part, but I wanna know if you ordered the basket from anywhere in particular or if it came with the wooden handle?

Theres several on amazon made in China bottomless portafilters. I have bought one 4 weeks ago it took 3 weeks to arrive

@@thisizamra would you recommend it?

@@anton2474 the quality is on the price level. I paid like 18€ i guess maybe 21€. The head and the handle can be taken a part it’s hold up with a screw system. I think the head is not really stainless steel but alloyed like that. So far it works fine and I am happy with it but I am sure if you are willing to pay more you can get better equipment but its not easy to find for 51mm. I also costumized the original delonghi portafilter. I cut the plastic part inside so that the 17g filter can fit inside if wanted. So now I have options of bottomless or with bottom and 13 or 17g coffee etc

Espresso is a bit wasteful by nature. Changing grind size needs purging to remove old grounds from the grinder, and many shots are pulled and thrown away when dialing in. Most people dump them, i tend to keep them in a spare mason jar, and use them when I'm out of coffee. Though, being such fine grinds of different sized, the coffee I get out of it is never very good. Alternatively, you could use those grounds/used coffee to cultivate mushrooms. Mushroom "Seeds" are not very expensive and they grow well on coffee grounds.

​@@MrMarki134 ı dont mean used grinded coffe after taking espresso. I mean surplus grinded coffee more than 17 grams before taking espresso shot. And also good idea to using used coffe in cultivating thanks. it is maybe also good for the flowers.

I'm sorry, I dropped it. I didn't adjust the amount of ground coffee in this video, so there was more coffee than I could use. But the coffee I have used. I'll put it under the tree in my garden.

​@@ArtyHome I think we should not waste the coffee, you can save every 3-4 gr surplus coffee until it makes 14 gr. And you can use this 14 gr accumulated coffee to make espresso to your guests who you don't like too much :)

No because there's a screw at the bottom which attaches the insert so you'd end up getting a third hole

The dedica grinder cannot grind it finely enough.

I'm copying my reply to another guy: hey, you need to modify the grinder (there are vids on youtube). type delonghi kg79 (or what's the name of yours) modification and follow the instructions. I did it 3-4 times, it's quite easy. After that you'll get the max out of that grinder, which is not good at all by default the key is to turn that knob a couple of times, reassemble, try it, and do it again until you are satisfied. I turned mine 6 or 7 clicks, but every grinder is different, so you need to find your way. some people turn it more, some less

You can brew traditional espresso, like how it's done in a café, whereas if you use a pressurised basket you don't get the full range of flavour as it's kind of a hacky way to get something that kind of looks like espresso from beans that are stale or too coarse by forcing the water through a tiny pinhole at the bottom of the basket making a jet of 'espresso' that hits the bottom of the inside of the portafilter, forming a crema-like foam, while also restricting the water from exiting the basket and creating a little bit of pressure mimicking what the finely ground beans do in a normal espresso brew

you can, it's just that the coffee will then leak out of the screw hole if you leave the plastic thing out. not a big deal, it's just not pleasant too look at and also a huge problem for your OCD :)

@@nohup1779 I don't think so. "Obsessive-compulsive thinking is completely normal, with about 94 percent of the population experiencing some kind of unwanted or intrusive thought at some point, according to an international study co-authored by Adam Radomsky, a professor of psychology at Concordia University in Montréal, Canada." Also, it's not a disease. It's a disorder

I agree with you. I'm here because the Black Friday and Cyber Monday deal from Sam's means a lot more people bought this machine. They may be new to espresso, but they are quickly learning the difference between pressurized and non-pressurized baskets. Most are looking for a non-pressurized, non-bottomless two cup basket solution. In other words, people want to have a non-pressurized basket and the original portafilter with the spouts because they don't want the mess of bottomless baskets frequently cause. I would get rid of the plastic insert. If the drip from the screw hole bothered me (and it probably would), I'd find a nut to fit the small screw to cover the hole. I don't see the point of keeping the plastic piece if it's just there to direct the flow. The bigger question is why hasn't De'Longhi figured out that a non-pressurized option is what many people want for this machine? Breville has for theirs.

You try to follow this link. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5AOTa3bEpYM.html

I reset the amount of water by pressing the button next to it. Until the desired amount of liquid and time is obtained. Release the button, the device will remember this value for the next time.

@@ArtyHome how to do ? hold button until the water is reach 30-35ml and then release ?

Shouldnt be 17 grams in 50 grams in 27 secs?

A filter basket is a filter basket, if it's 51mm it will fit. Portafilters are a different story because they have different locking mechanisms into the group head.

Without a plastic part coffee also comes out of the screw hole, thus, you can't extract to 2 cups.

Can you screw the middle screw in ?

@@guan5849 Basically, not. The screw goes into the plastic part. You could block the screw hole in some other ways, but in my experience it doesn't give me any trouble. The coffee drips out of the regular two holes only.

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Now I set it to low.

do u know what the °C for LOW ,MEDIUM ,HIGH ?? not write at the manual

@@ArtyHome what's the difference?

@@ArtyHome such a short extraction time and low temperature seems to get weak and acidic shot.

@@yellowfans1215 Quite big. Low temperature lower extraction and higher acidity. Higher temperature more strong and bitter shot.

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The original wont let you use „espresso fine“ coffee, because the pressure would become too high to let the water trough the small hole. So you have to use pretty ground grinded coffee (like pregrinded from the supermarket) that will not bring you real espresso taste und texture. The modified one has not just one hole, the bottom is all of holes that let the water trough. So it is possible to use fine coffee, have the right pressure in the basket und get a real espresso, not just coffee with a fake crema on it.

Pressurized portafilter can actually balance and factor out a bad or coarser coffee grind. Unfortunately the espresso result has thinner body and not much flavor. I've recently changed to a non-pressurized portafilter and the taste is totally different.

Mine was the same.... I'm going back to the old one.

- Do not use old beans (maximum 1 month after roasting) - Only grind as many beans as necessary each time. - Perhaps you did not tamp properly, did not use enough powder or ground too coarsely?

To split into 2 cups double spout style evenly

I cut 15mm.

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Is that why im fukin up my crema eeeveeeryyy day? Just use the single option for my double basket? just yesterday a 250g of beans landed in the trash when i was trying my crema...

@@nkmotion try less beans and finer grind if you don’t have a scale

The buttons can be programmed for any desired length of time so the single shot he had just programmed to this time me and my missus like our shots different so I programmed one for her and the other for me.

No

Better than a pressure filter, DeLonghi can fit more ground coffee. And the ground coffee used must be finely. Coffee with a rich and mellow taste.

If I do, can it be used again for compact basket?

I think he's showing people who don't have a bottomless portafilter how to modify their current one to take a conventional basket... That's how I got here anyway

51mm

Because it's too deep. They assume people will just try to pop it in, hence the mod to the plastic insert.

@@devildog8328 thank you. i ended up solving this a little while back. bought a used basket and cut the black insert part in half, as you described here. ty.

Not sure if can tighten the middle screw

There's a screw at the bottom and if you remove it completely there's an extra hole where the screw was

And how is that a problem? Does it make it messy for coffee to come out of it or something else?@@alinaqirizvi1441

@@akashbansal214 yes very messy

did it fit?

@@joshuabaxter4479 Yes -Joshua it did fit!! But-- I also bought a naked/bottomless porta-filter handle. And for me this has been excellent!! Its' all I use now. I can get a really great coffee out of my Dedica with it. Coffee is a hobby of mine, and I think it is very good to have the naked porta-filter to go with a Dedica, and its really worth the money!!

can you give the link of this portafilter?@@leoniefassy5488

Loveramics egg 200ml.

@@ArtyHome thanx man

Well normal non-pressurised filter baskets don't fit in the normal Dedica portafilter because of the plastic insert, however you can't remove the insert as it would leave an extra screw hole at the bottom of the portafilter, so the solution is to cut the insert to allow a normal basket to fit

hey, you need to modify the grinder (there are vids on youtube). type delonghi kg79 (or what's the name of yours) modification and follow the instructions. I did it 3-4 times, it's quite easy. After that you'll get the max out of that grinder, which is not good at all by default

the key is to turn that knob a couple of times, reassemble, try it, and do it again until you are satisfied. I turned mine 6 or 7 clicks, but every grinder is different, so you need to find your way. some people turn it more, some less

It's fine it's high-melting point plastic which shouldn't affect the taste especially considering it's only briefly in contact with the espresso. Plus some people want to have a double spouted pf rather than a bottomless pf, and it's also much easier to just cut the insert and nothing else

If you remove it completely there's a screw hole left open