One of the things I love about astrology is learning that this kind of thing can happen to anybody. I remember learning that even Princess Diana had a Pluto type obsession with a certain man. She tried calling him over 300 times with no response and she only stopped when she was threatened with a restraining order.
My professor of Shakespeare was always repeating the sentence: "Longing is belonging." After a Plutonic encounter, I could fully understand what he was talking about. Once you realize you actually belong to someone else, that's an instant wake-up call.
@@iloveyoutothemoonandbackI think she was trying to say that once you realize you “belong” to someone it’s a big red flag 🚩 because we actually cannot and should not belongs to anyone but ourselves. I think that what she means by wake up call. The sense of losing yourself and obsessing over another human it’s as dangerous as any other type of addiction. It requires a lot of work, maybe work for the rest of your life, maybe you will never get over that craving you have… but you got do what you got do. Period.
i have been to some excellent therapists that helped me after weeks of talk, but your videos have helped me see the root of my problems so quickly! thank you so much for these amazing videos! much love to you!
This was so apt for me in from 2016 to Jan 2019. The moment We broke up I received 4 major job offers these were Fortune 500 companies. I don’t know what I was blocking for myself in life.
Very, very difficult to leave/get over. Cord cutting is a great idea. Passion so strong there are no words. Emotional torture equally strong. It is an addiction. The withdrawal is so hard. Excellent vid, Jewel. The longing, yes. The grief. The hook, the great passion. 15 years of this addiction.
Yes, indeed. Please keep in mind that you can will be able to move on. The other person is not what you really need. But we are convinced at this stage, the longing.... Focus on what what your deepest desires. It's in you and you alone NOT the other person.
I used hypnosis therapy to cut the ties with my ex. In the hypnosis session I asked him to forgive me for every misdeed ai had done, and then I forgived him (in hypnosis) for what he did to me. And with the help of an angels sword of fire I cut the cords between us. It was SO relieving! I felt lighter afterwards, it was almost physical. I've done a lot of what you said as well (new hair color, loosing weight, moving to another place...) and it really helps. But you need to cut that cord and to forgive to be able to heal properly. I'm a heavy weight Scorpio/8th house type and I don't let go easily.
@@trs_4612 I call on Michael the Archangel, and hypnosis therapy is best done by a certified hypnosis therapist, and that is my best recommendation. Go for one who makes you feel safe and has papers/authorized papers on his/her wall. Don't want an amateur to mess with your braincells!
Great video. I have come out the other side of a mid life plutonic obsession. For me, I realized the person of focus served as a catalyst for needed change in my life. My life is so different now, and I am weary, but I pray incrementally wiser. Thank you.
It helps to keep saying to yourself this is where you end and I begin! The constant 'US' that a Platonic relationship brings is super subtle and suffocating! Thank you for creating this video you're helping a lot of people!
dude, your pluto videos are so refreshing and eye opening, and a little funny just because what you speak is so true... finally someone who understands me... I would have never known it was my pluto that I wanted someone else to understand or recognize in me...
Experiencing the senses, after being involved in the ‘plutonic realm’. Changes of scenery etc. You’re truly very good at what you do. Always awakening these thoughts for me
This is a great video! I've survived a 13 year Plutonic relationship...everything you said is correct...it is like death & la petite mort (the little death, ha)
I am so grateful I found your channel at a time when I needed it the most! I have never experienced a relationship of this intensity. I completely lost myself and it almost took me to the brink of insanity! Thankfully, I awoke to the reality just in the nick of time. I’m not yet where I need to be but I’m no longer controlled by obsession and pain. I am determined to take my life back and use the lessons I am learning to develop strength and greatness within! Thank you Jewel for your work! I don’t think I would have made it this far without your guidance and teachings! I hope to get a consultation soon so I may better understand my path and journey! Thank you Lord for waking me up!! 🕉🙏🏻✨🌸💓🪐🌟
I really worked on self-love, and I honestly had an epiphany about unconditional love when south node was transiting my 12th house. Once I realized I was not giving unconditional love by expecting love/devotion/sex in return, I was able to have a much healthier connection with my person and then see that they were just a human and not the key to my fulfillment in life.
You are spot on! I have a stellium in Scorpio. Sun at 6 degrees, Pluto at 7, Venus at 16, and Mercury at 28. Smh I can't even begin to explain my past relationships *sighs*
Thank you so much. I've been running around in my head for the past 3 years trying to figure out what it is I feel, or trying to make sense of it, to even try to begin to get over it. These twenty minutes helped me so much, thank you, I've cried healing tears of recognition and now know where to go from here 💕
Thank you so much for making this video! You've given words to ideas I've only been able to vaguely think about. Your advice about grounding and distraction is extremely helpful. The summer after we broke up, I was fortunate to be able to spend it with my mom in her cabin. Being in the country in nature was very healing at the time, and allowing my mom to help me through that pain ended up making our relationship stronger, a blessing I never expected. It's been over a year since my we broke up, but the only thing that helps me not think about him is staying busy, busy, busy.
Jewel, thank you so much for this video, so insightful and helpful! For me the most significant thing is this realizing the passion and feelings will always be there without interpreting this person as "the one" or trying to force it out of the psyche, which we know never works and actually can make it worse.
It is SO APPRECIATED that you discuss HOW to go about it, what to expect/how to feel. I'm finally healing from a Pluto conjunct sun/Pluto opposite sun situation and it's so important to be concious that you must fill the vacuum!!! I'm working on that right now and it can be tricky for sure, but I intuitively knew this would be the work. Thank you so much 🙏🏼💜🙏🏼
I have to admit that I think I am in the early stages of a Pluto obsession (I am still bit confused if I am for certain). Last year I connected with a man on a social network site. We felt immediately attracted to each other and have many common interests. He lives overseas from me and we have not met yet, but both plan to at some point. I have never felt this way about another person...EVER. It's such a weird and compelling feeling that I still cannot wrap my brain around it. I came to discover that we have many Pluto contacts (his Pluto square my Venus, my Pluto conjunct his Moon, his Pluto conjunct my Uranus in the 1st house, his Pluto Sextile my Moon and Trine my Mars). I am constantly thinking about him, fantasizing about him, looking at his pictures. This is VERY unlike me as I have always remained a bit detached in relationships (Venus in Aqua). Thankfully, I do have other "outlets" which includes meditation, drawing, volunteering for non-profit organizations, and exercise.
I know I have complained about your tone in past videos but only bc I really want to connect with what you say. I know there is so much wisdom in your words. Thank you for this video! You have so much compassion, realness and truth telling and I can feel your empathy and kindness here. Thank you so much! 💖❤️
Can I just say that you literally described how I feel? It's been 3 yrs and I feel isolated from others and dead inside. I left but I still think about her and she is still thinking about me. I still stalk her sometimes. It's even terrifying. I cannot connect with anyone and the only pleasure I remember is when I was in a relationship with her. She has her pluto conjunct my north node, opposite my venus which is conjunct my South node and also her moon is opposite my North node and conjunct my venus and south node. Her neptune is in an aspect with my venus too. What you're saying is so spot on. I think I'll use it, maybe I'll be able to have normal relationships with ppl again bc all I've known were plutonic ones
You cannot contact her again? I had the same plutonic obsession with a guy but later we came back together again. I just could not let him go. It was impossible.
I used hypnosis therapy to cut the ties with my ex. In the hypnosis session I asked him to forgive me for every misdeed ai had done, and then I forgived him (in hypnosis) for what he did to me. And with the help of an angels sword of fire I cut the cords between us. It was SO relieving! I felt lighter afterwards.
I didn’t think I was actually a plutonic person because I don’t have any major planets in Scorpio. But then i learned my chart ruler is my 8th house cancer Jupiter. And then Pluto Lilith and Juno in Scorpio. I was heavily in deep with a Scorpio moon mars and Pluto. Our 3 plants were exactly conjunct to the same degree. It was so hard to move on. So hard.
I see this video is not recent but was on my recommended videos. I was in a very plutonic relationship, only 3 months. Pluto venus, mars, moon, nodes aspects. My Saturn also conjunct his south node. I had almost a kundalini awakening after meeting him. It was intense. Due to Saturn I believe we were restricted from staying together. I still think about him but understand why and realize I need to pay attention to myself more.
His vs mine Pluto conjuncts ASC Pluto opposite SUN Pluto conjuncts MOON Pluto opposite VENUS Pluto opposite MERC Pluto opposite JUP His vs mine SUN sq Pluto URANUS sq Pluto MARS sq Pluto MOON trine Pluto VEN trine Pluto His moon conjuncts my mars opposes my SATURN and conjuncts his merc His own VENUS sq his Pluto. I feel like this relationship is purely plutonic. I had to delete him off social media. The games were too much and and honestly just feel like I’ve been used. He is very hot and cold. I’m very obsessed about him and I wonder if the feeling is mutual. He tries to make me jealous but at the same time see through it as if he does care and is testing my reaction. It’s too much intensity to play it just cool and friendly.
I hated to watch this video months ago and i hate seeing it now. Wish i never met this person. So painful to want someone so bad but they only run in and out of your life giving attention onlybwhen they are ready, but super nice and sweet but can never be together. Getting back into my body and moving on is so hard. Some days i do well, other days i get lost in time. All i need is the wrong/right trigger to knock me off of my path of wakening recovery only to get snatched back down underground.I'm so much better than i was a year ago...making the choice to go no contact as long as i can until some business situation comes up and I need his services or our paths meet. When we end up at the same venue he is not and heavy and tempting. I've tried running off and disappearing but he finds me. Hard to turn him away. An ongoing sad painful love affair (harmonious and tense Pluto aspects) with short moments of sweetness (Neptune sextile mercury/sun). Hard Saturn aspects reflected in our synastry and composite charts keep us from coming together long term. I used to think that Saturn was a bad thing but im beginning to think it is a blessing in disguise.
aquarius star72 I feel for you. I dont know your full story but it sounds similar to mine and it hurts so bad. I've even considered therapy for the same reasons of being fine and then boooom.... I have to see him again and go through this grief of knowing we'll never be together even tho we have such sweet memorable moments. It truly sucks. Wishing you the best ✨
This video sure came around at the right time. This fits my relationship to a tee - 28 years of it -We've been separated for ten years.....and it still isn't finished! He has his pluto conjunct saturn in leo - my ninth house opposite my moon conjunct venus in my third. I don't know his exact time of birth. We are now selling a house we co-own and it's going to be very interesting.........So many crucial decisions i feel I need to make right now - 2nd saturn return. Thanks for the wisdom!
I have been studying astrology for over 30 years and should have known better. I do a lot of synastry and composite charts for people and have never seen such a disaster waiting to happen as my chart and his. 6 yods according to astro-charts, but one exact within a degree (pluto, venus, Jupiter). Pluto sextile venus in the composite. In synastry pluto conjunct mars (1 deg), Moon trine pluto (2 deg), pluto opposite ascendant and pluto square sun. We have lots of wonderful sextiles and trines but a Saturn square venus in both composite and synastry. My life and his have been turned upside down for the last 8 years. It ended 1 year ago, but still causes horrendous pain (we work together and are thrown across each others paths every month or so). The only thing that gets me through is being grateful for the spiritual growth it has afforded me… and hope that one day it will be less painful.
His venus conjunct my pluto and scorpio ascendant. We can't be together. I already experienced that in the past. I don't want to fall into that again. I keep in mind that my feelings are my tools to explore this life. I put them into sewing my own wardrobe and be the queen I always wanted to be (moon in leo). He works in a vintage clothes shop ... This energy those feelings are given, I invest them into my life. If he wants me, he will come to me.
Ok here's my story, lol remember you asked. During this time Pluto was transiting Venus sextile, moon trine, Mercury-Chiron-MC square. 2 year relationships, best sex of my life, deep intellectual conversation, sexy slow dancing. And he was highly manipulative, verbally abusive, etc. His pluto cunjunt my sun, sextile ascendant, square and Saturn nodes, trine Jupiter, square Lilith...all within 1-3 degree. And his pluto was 6 degrees from sun/moon midpoint. Well I took ayahuasca and I knew "I, me, my soul, that thing at the center of my being" was not put here to be tormented. 48 hours after the Aya ceremony I packed my car and left, and moved 1200 miles away. It still took me 8 months to fully extract myself from him. After 6 months I picked someone I intuitively knew would be fantastic in bed, and he was, even better than mr. Pluto. One night stand. That really helped. Then I really researched narcissistic recovery. That helped. But honestly it was his pulling on my Saturn in Cancer conjunct south node that felt very much like the abuse my mother did inflict on me. So one year after left him I went NC with my mother. Which I wish I would have done 30 years ago when family services said she was unfit to be my mother. Oh well But now I feel like I have a super power. I can experience ANY pull or obsession and I can LET IT GO. And I have a couple times since. I'm thankful for the relationship because I feel like I'm finally free, maybe from lifetime of repeating cycles (Saturn in cancer conjunct south node-square sun conjunct Pluto in libra....I was probably the controlling mother in previous incarnations).
Can one be obsessed with someone else despite no pluto aspects? Maybe I have my personal planets in her 8th house but I don't know her rising sign. I'm pretty sure she has some of my planets in her 8th because, despite me being Plutonic, I don't get obsessed with woman that much.
He stopped talking to me and I completely lost my mind, sold my car and aimlessly traveled around the country till I had no more money and moved back in with my grandmother.... Yeah. Opposing Natal suns at 29 Gem and Sag when Pluto was edging toward total conjunction to 29 Sag. I was the Gemini.
He and I both have a lot of Pluto and we are within a small age gap, soo... To not have a plutonic relationship I would need to find someone a lot older or younger than me. I have done cord cutting during separation but apparently not good enough, and during a shamanic healing while we were separated, apparently "his penis was pulled out of my vagina" energetically. The energy healer said he's only had to do that one other time and it was with an abusive relationship. Well, that wasn't good enough to keep us apart either but it did help me to feel myself again. Ours is not abusive, but it is a lot of Pluto. Plus he is my naturopathic doctor and DC. I'm staying in the relationship, but still working on refocusing my Pluto, as you suggest. I have Pluto in 2nd trine sun & MC, oppose mars in 7th, square Venus-Saturn in 11th, oppose Jupiter in 8th, and semi-sextile Persephone in Virgo rising. He is Scorpio Sun and mars with Pluto rising in Libra to say the least... We have learned and grown a lot in the past 12 years together and I for sure feel way more evolved and tuned up from the experience, so that is a blessing. My Venus-Saturn is on his S Node and of course there's much much more. We both honestly feel it's impossible for us to permanently separate, so we are evolving and growing instead. Good news is I'm a bellydancer and kundalini yogi... And I have a Uranus conjunct moon exact, and sun in gemini conjunct MC and SN to help me feel good making sudden quick changes. I've been referring back to your videos for a while and it's super duper helped me. It'll feel so good when I contact you for a consult soon. Thank you for being so generous with your info! You're a real blessing on here!
Good video. Ik starts with realizing it's become an obsession. But it can take months to cut the tie completely. Especially, when there are so many ( neptune, moon, asteroids...) connections. Last time my pluto in 4 leo, in trine with saturn in sag in 7 and venus in aries in 11, was conjunct her lilith, uranus , moonnode and vernus in her house 10 And I knew, ( difficult with my sun in gemini inconjunct moon in scorpio, and her pluto square to my sun) that I had to demand what I needed, but couldn't stop with her. Only after realizing she really was a narcissist I could break up with her. Now I wonder if this trine attracts narcissists, since she was the third. All (beautiful) narcissists, all leading to obsession . I hope I've learned my lesson now...
I've got it. The trine is indeed the problen of my broken-heart aches since my saturn is conjunct my descendant- relationships are as glue to me, can't depart of them
+Peter Klein hm bad for or maybe even good you can grow more then? ^^ Who is more obsessed the one where Pluto trine or sextile the planets of the partner or the other way around. A trine was the most influencal or? Namaste brother Aleks
sometimes 'growth' fatigues...Especially in love relationships, where everything gets so emotional. And part of my growth seems to be the discovery of the enneagram. And I am a type 1, a perfectionist, with (Type 4, romantic) mental breakdowns as deep as that of a vulcano. I can't imagine that my ex, a type 7, with her moon in aries had the same problems. She will just make the same mistakes over and over again
+Peter Klein hm enneagram, haven't heard of it before thank you will look into it. I got problems with answering multiple choice answers. I don't really know what to check :D
I have been chatting to a man online, we havent meet yet, we have this in synastry: Pluto conjunct NN Juno/Uranus conjunct Pluto NN conjunct Juno/IC Boy I cant wait to meet him!
I had a double whammy moon-pluto relationship with double whammy north node-moon connections as well... We were obsessed at first, but then settled into a happy relationship where we lived together... he just died recently...and it has stirred up my depression... and I am feeling suicidal. I almost wish that I hadn't met him.
I've seen this video multiple times.. Because a plutonic relation is very complex. For instance, my pluto was cj her venus, in synastry, but her pluto was square my sun.. At the end I stopped seeing her because she was a narcissist (her BML in Leo, her Venus opposite her Chiron in 4th house, her venus cj her uranus), but it took many years to recover ( my mercury opp my neptune). So what I want you to ask: who's having the most of problems when cutting a 'relationship', the Persephone person (who would that be in this case?), or the Pluto person?
Going through this now! Sooo hard to move on! It does feel like an addiction. This isn't a healthy relationship, so why can't I stop reaching out to him? He makes me feel bad about myself, but I feel like I NEED him. 😞
But Jewell, wont every one we marry in our generation have these Pluto aspects? So how do we find love and intensity since we all in our generation have Pluto contacts with each other?
No, not at all, unless you mean Pluto conjunct Pluto in synastry of people born the same year. It's usually multiple contacts of one's Pluto to the other's personal planets, angles and nodes that makes a relationship plutonic. I only had one pluto contact in synastry with my ex-husband who was my generation, and the poor guy had his SUN opposite Pluto in the natal chart, which, naturally, made his Sun be opposite my Pluto too. The majority of my schoolmates didn't have any major Pluto contact with my chart in synastry. Whereas two of my plutonic love affairs with huge age difference gave us double whammies of sun square pluto or pluto conjuct mercury.
I am aquarius with a lot of aquarius and sag, but I have mars square pluto and north node on scorpio on my second house and It’s SO weird how plutonic/scorpio I have become along the years... I became a ride or die with relationships and I can become really obsessive about someone, also cyber stalk people even before the first date JUST because I need to know “where I’m going to put feet on” and It’s so weird because I have no personal planets on water and venus in sag... Trying so hard to understand why I became so scorpio and how to deal with this all or nothing energy I developed...
i am going through a venus square pluto, ( venus in the 9th pluto transit 5th ) uranus conjunct venus ( in the 9th house) , and neptune transit conjunct sun and mars (in the 7th house) very very difficult, we was on and off for 3 years, exhausting, draining, disrespectful relationship i have ever encountered in my life, mars conjunct saturn transit conjunct my natal 4th house Neptune ended it very abruptly a couple of months ago, i'm now in therapy dealing with my codependent issues which this relationship brought to the fore, was i obsessed, yes, with a man who turned out to be a Narcissist, i am learning so much about myself and getting to the core of my own addictions
So venus went into retrograde recently I think..& so my Pluto obsession came back .. Idk but it felt as if it was activated all over again obsessive thoughts n desire. I think the other person and I could still be connected energetically somehow but we’re doing this stand off thing seems like, who’s gonna open up first. My question is this..does it always have to end bad? Do you think it’s possible to reconnect without it turning out so negatively? We’ve been separated for at least 2-3 years. But seen each other on social media recently slight communication. All I want to do is reconcile. Our aspects - her sun, Mercury, saturn & pluto conjunct my ascendant, pluto, Lilith & juno ..All of these placements are in the sign of scorpio. We even have the same moon sign in sagg..how could we have not made this work.😑🥴😪 Smh 🤦🏻♂️ I don’t know maybe I need to question myself is it worth reconciliation..tbc btw thank you for the tips mentioned in the video.🙏✨
You have to also consider what the other person wants. Reconciliation shouldn't be this hard if both parties want it. If you are the only one who wants to make things work, is it worth that effort? Because if your effort is not reciprocated, you will start questioning and doubting yourself. That is the downfall.
@@aphrolith7676 thank you.. maybe I will lead with that notion and then express my wants if the opportunity presents itself. until then I will continue focusing my attention on me. Appreciate your advice 🙂
You explain SO MUCH!!! Can you explain Pluto opposite Pallas? I can't find enough info.. I guess it's at 17 cancer and I'm confused regarding the asteroid
@Jewel could you record a video about Sun Pluto natal conjunction? I have this natal aspect, I struggle to understand it. I also keep attracting people (bosses, friends, partners) with Sun-Pluto aspects. One astrologer told me that it's either superpower or super self destruction. I'm really I interested in your opinion:)
So after listening to your video and back and checked the ephemeris and it's true my husband of 1970 are Pluto's conjunct very difficult relationship he had a terrible temper I divorced him in 1977 very hard to get over. I married a doctor in 1980 he turned out to be schizophrenic I just checked our Pluto's are our conjunct devastating marriage I almost didn't make it out of that one. Next relationship 1989 my Pluto conjunct his Venus Pluto conjunct as Uranus his Neptune conjunct my Venus got my heart broken on that one. 25-year marriage my Uranus conjunct his Sun, and we had a Pluto conjunct Uranus. Now I am recovering from a three-year relationship with a narcissist... Are Pluto's our conjunct, are neptunes are conjunct, our Jupiters are conjunct and our North nodes are conjunct. Your advice is good on this video my entire life has been under the spell of Pluto I just realized this wow... No wonder I'm so exhausted...
This series is really inspirational, thank you for making these. If Neptune is in first house and Pluto in 10th (Both how you're viewed by others) what would you say that could mean about the person? (Asc is Capricorn, mc Scorpio)
You have a very negative take on Pluto relationships. The hard aspects, I can understand but there is many riches to be found in these connections.. I have Pluto exactly conjunct my Asc and my partner of 21 years was born just 11 days before me so their Pluto conj my Asc too. Yes, many of the Pluto dynamics have played out over the years but I have the best of the best and he feels the same. We are a great support to each other. Maybe both of us being Gemini helps to lighten this conjunction a little.
I have a Neptune grand-square with Venus, Mars, & Moon. On top of that I have Venus inconjunct Pluto, and also a full 8th house. Needless to say, I'm fucked! Fortunately, my Moon trine Pluto/Jupiter eventually gives me the strength to move on from unhealthy dynamics...
I have too many pluto/scorpio aspects in my natal chart - Natal venus in scorpio Scorpio ascendent Natal Pluto in the 12th house 😭 Sun sextile pluto Moon trine pluto Moon in the eighth house.... Basically I'm doomed!! 😂😭 I really want to just not have another relationship. It's hard to find a person to match the depth of my feelings...it's frustrating. I recently dated a guy where we had Pluto opp Venus in synastry (my Pluto, his venus)...it was hell...I walked away...but kept going back...but I'm trying to break free now. He has no planets in Scorpio and no aspects to Pluto (but obviously has scorpio in a house and Pluto in a house too). I find I attract a lot of emotionally unavailable men..and that ramps up the Pluto power in me.
Do plutonic relationships always have to end? I have Mars and Saturn in Scorpio + Venus square Pluto. Plus it's my Pluto square his Mercury and trine his Venus. His Pluto is square my Sun. We're together for 8 years.
You both could be having other inner planets interacting harmoniously. Pluto trine Venus synastry is not bad. Look at both Sun & Moon and other interactions 🌹
What if you have a bunch of other nice placements in the composite (sun trine moon, sun in 7th) that are the most sought after for partnerships, along with the obsessive pluto ones? Can you ever just healthily manage a pluto relationship?
Thank you for the video :) I have a question: does a north node in the eight house mean I need to learn how to let go, for example through such relationships?
Oh gosh Jewel. I have six planets in my own chart all in scorpio conjuncting in the 4th house, and my partner has pluto conjuncting all my planets in our synastry chart. I can recognize the obsession to him and from him. He's possessive and I'm possessive and it just feels like such a helpless situation because there's so much passion and lust. I've been told by an angel medium that we were just karmic partners and not soulmates or anything else, but I can't see to pull away. We broke up for a few months and just got right back together again. I feel like because we broke up for a little while, that made me realize how much I needed to focus on myself and now I feel like although we still are obsessed with each other, I am working hard on myself. Is it bad that I think this relationship is sustainable but won't last forever?
@Gonza Brush Oof, wow this was so long ago. After I commented here again, we ended up breaking maybe a few months later. I haven't spoken to him since. But since that relationship, I stayed single for 3 years until last year. It was that relationship that made me kind of crawl inside myself and love myself first. Gotta love karmic!
@@sensirius1710 I appreciate your update, hope you’re happy & healthy and in a meaningful relationship (firstly with your self then with people outside of you) 🙏🏻
Dear Ms Jewel, I am a bit confused. I have Pluto (Scorpio) sextile Mars conjunct Ascendant (Virgo) and Venus (Leo) square Moon conjunct Saturn (Scorpio) in my natal. I am 32, I've never been in a relationship because I am looking for someone compatible with me, but so far, 3 men I thought they liked me but from all I've noticed a disrespectful and controlling vibe (like "my way or the highway" one of them dared to tell me). They all had their Venus in a conjunct or trine aspect with my Mars-Ascendant and Moon in a conjunct or sextile aspect with my Pluto and of course their Saturn in a hard aspect with my Moon-Venus. Since I am the Pluto person, why were they the controlling freaks? Or is it because of my own natal aspects with Pluto and Scorpio I attract freaks, or I perceive the entire planet as full of controlling freaks? Thank you, Monica
+Monica RO The answer is found in the last line of your question. It’s a harsh thing to say to someone but it’s the truth. We see what we believe in. We see in others what we can’t see in ourselves, it’s the shadow side. I am working on a series of videos that will be released next week on this subject. I will explain why we keep attracting the same type of person and how we can stop and attract an appropriate partner. It’s all about self integration.
What if the aspect goes both ways. Then you will both feel the pluto and both be the venus ,correct ? He is pluto in scorpio and I pluto in Libra and it's pretty strong
That’s the thing when we are obsessing we have no idea how much pain we could be causing them. Unless we put ourselves in their shoes and ask ourselves what if we are the one being obsessed / stalked on?
“Recognizing what it is about this particular person that has us so HOOKED, because those are the parts of US we need to be investing in, those are the parts of US that we need to be developing, those are the parts in US that we need to loving, instead of seeing that in another person and deciding to love it through them. We see our potential in another that’s what plutonic relationships are about.” -JEWEL 💎 WOW! This is so true it makes me sad but at the same time this is sooo enlightening and something I will always keep in mind whenever I want to begin obsessing. THANK YOU !! ♥️
Definitely. All obsessing aside, my precious Scorpio from back then, they did show me the person I wanted to be. Not only is my Pluto in Scorpio, but I also have the north node in the 8th. The obscure, the occult, the mysterious, death... that's what my soul chose to work out this lifetime, apparently. That's a merit that will remain for as long as I live, and it also means I wasn't completely mind-sick. There was a part of soulmatehood that was genuine and true. We did call each other good friends after all, probably not without a reason.
this is very eye opening for me because I have venus square pluto natal at 0 degree orb and I have always wanted to take from potential partners what I need for myself, for example confidence, intelligence etc. This just made me realise that I need to stop wanting it from others and making it to be part of me. I should find it myself!
The worst is when they have their pluto aspecting all of your personal planets but your pluto doesn't aspect any of their's. It is so unrequited and heartbreaking. Like how could I have all of this obsession and deep feelings for someone and they literally don't feel anything at all? It's the worst and takes a toll on your mental health and self esteem.
Realizing I had spent more time going over and over old stuff than the time we were together. Wasting that time with my head in the past rather than accepting, learning and looking for new experiences. Wasting that time I could have spent on myself, been goal focused instead of looking for ways to hurt myself over and over. I am heavily plutonic and its easy to get caught in the trap of rummaging through rubbish. Its good to know I will always fall into this hole but can learn to pull myself out quicker everytime
