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How to open and completely clean up Helios 44-2 oily aperture blades 

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@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 5 лет назад
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@MexicanMovie
@MexicanMovie 4 года назад
Greeting from USA ! Do you take the blades completely apart and clean them like this on the lens you sell on Ebay titled "HELIOS 44-2 2/58mm Canon EF mount *TUNED FOR FILMMAKERS!* *CLA'd* *Mint!*" ???? please let me know as soon as you have time. thank you !!!!
@Ni5ei
@Ni5ei Год назад
0:14 You make the hardest part look so easy. Unscrewing the lens tube sometimes needs brute force! You probably had it done before doing the video 😂
@paulscaglione8814
@paulscaglione8814 7 лет назад
Thank you so much! I had a really stubborn 58 that I was afraid to apply too much force until I saw your video and realized the build of the lens.
@cihancekic5817
@cihancekic5817 8 лет назад
Thank you very much. Very helpfull. I repair my Tair11a's aperture blades through your video.
@zcrazymaniac6966
@zcrazymaniac6966 5 лет назад
Thank you so much for posting this video. I had really messed up the focus ring and the aperture ring was unable to turn but after disassembly, it was a breeze!
@keithwhisman
@keithwhisman 9 лет назад
You are awesome! I love the accent, I kept thinking Borat and I mean that as a compliment. Hehehe! Thanks for teaching me something new.
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 9 лет назад
+Keith Whisman Thank you! Considering the fact i've never been in english speaking country, don't you think my english is quite good? ;)
@keithwhisman
@keithwhisman 9 лет назад
+Retro Foto House fantastic actually. Where do you live? I am just getting into DSLR photography and enjoying it. My job as a chauffeur has me going to all kinds of nice places and my cell phone camera isn't cutting it anymore.
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 9 лет назад
+Keith Whisman Kiev, Ukraine ;)
@swatty90
@swatty90 9 лет назад
this looks so fidely, but i have to do it to mine too, thanks for showing us how to do it
@craigolson1651
@craigolson1651 11 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for the tutorial! Just did the degrease of the helicoid and aperture blade de-oiling of a 44-2 with your great videos. Thanks again
@martinluling3300
@martinluling3300 10 лет назад
a very instructive video - please more of it!
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 10 лет назад
Thank you! Will come soon!:)
@coolstuff8857
@coolstuff8857 7 лет назад
Hi! Thanks for the informative video. There's a lot of old radioactive lenses, do you know if the Helios 44-2 is radioactive or not? It can't be good for your health to open up this lens if it's radioactive.
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 7 лет назад
What lenses you're talking about? helios is not radioactive!
@coolstuff8857
@coolstuff8857 7 лет назад
Retro Foto House are you sure that that helios lenses are not radioactive? Have you tested the radiation your self? I tried to find answer in Google whether it's radioactive or not but couldn't find any answers
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 6 лет назад
I'm pretty sure about this. 100%
@mariomollo1004
@mariomollo1004 5 лет назад
Well explained, thanks for this great tutorial!
@ivanoc7318
@ivanoc7318 9 лет назад
Hello! Thanks for the video. I have a question, My helios has the f ring inverted...so i tried to unmount My helios 44 2 But it ' s blocked... The frontal Group doesn 't move... how can i do? Thanks!
@tilica5353
@tilica5353 3 года назад
Thank you for this video from Spain. The best for clean oil and greases is zippo fuel lighter.The alcohol is not the best for cleaning old grease.
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 3 года назад
Thank you for your input!
@reboot2494
@reboot2494 5 лет назад
bravo..... 👏👏👏👏👌pls mention which kind of oil we should use in this lens
@alanmarlow3031
@alanmarlow3031 3 года назад
The very first operation - unscrewing the inner part of the lens, is there a locking screw or something to loosen first ? I have two of these lenses and neither will unscrew simply like your video shows.
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 3 года назад
No, there is nothing. You just need to apply a force. Sometimes, barely though, it is screwed up so tightly that it is impossible to unscrew it even with a lot of force.
@Moses_Kanneh
@Moses_Kanneh 4 года назад
Hello, I love your videos they are very helpful. I have a Helios 44-2; the focus ring came off of the focusing block not to long ago, do to the tiny screws being striped. I was wondering if you know the size of those slotted set screws that hold the focus ring on the focus block? I'm also not sure where I can get screws that tiny.
@avistop1
@avistop1 3 года назад
Thank you very much!
@CraigMansfield
@CraigMansfield 7 лет назад
Beautiful job.
@notorius232
@notorius232 4 года назад
Thx for sharing.
@slyfawkes7772
@slyfawkes7772 6 месяцев назад
The oil is used as a lubricant to reduce friction from the shutter blades, no? If this is the case, is there any downside to removing it, and if so, what would prove to be a viable substitute (could graphite be used, or would it be too reflective)?
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 18 дней назад
there is barely any friction, those amount of oil are just useless and make a fog on inner optical surfaces over the years
@bunuellluis8099
@bunuellluis8099 9 лет назад
Thanks for the great tutorial. Helps a lot. I see that reassembling the blades is a problem. To avoid that can I just immerse the entire housing in alcohol and clean with a light brush delicately ? It may not remove the oil entirely. But most of it can be removed by repeated attempts. Have you tried it ? Any problem in this method ? I need not open the blades this way.Your reply will help. Thanks
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 9 лет назад
***** Hello! Yes, you can proceed in this way also, though it is not a quality job. You will not be able to remove oil completely.
@bunuellluis8099
@bunuellluis8099 9 лет назад
Thanks for the response. Your tutorial is a great help. Regards.
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 9 лет назад
***** Yes, you can proceed in this manner, though you will not be able to remove oil completely.
@keithwhisman
@keithwhisman 9 лет назад
It seems to me that pure 100% acetone oil free would probably do a great job at removing all the oil, I would cycle the aperture blades in the acetone so it gets into every little crack and crevice. I use acetone on a lot of projects mostly involving guns and gun parts, what can I say I live in the pro gun state of Arizona USA.
@paulp3053
@paulp3053 9 лет назад
thank you so much for sharing this! is a very well made video. HOwever, I have some problem. If you look at min 4:22, my heliuos 44-2 has only 1 screw. After remove it, I still cannot go further. The ring seems stuck. What to do? Thank you very much... Solved with a big tool. Indeed, force is the only solution... but it will damage it.
@neghentropia
@neghentropia Год назад
Mine is a 44-2 but doens't have the spacer...were there more than one version?
@Pedro-tl7jg
@Pedro-tl7jg Год назад
Do you think the blades can be cleaned without removing them? My helios has just a tiny bit of oil on them but im afraid of not being able to put it back together again
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse Год назад
no, it is not possible, unfortunately.
@teche7044
@teche7044 10 лет назад
Very helpful! I have a 44-2 and the body is pretty loose, any tips on taking it apart and ensuring that the fit is good and tight for everything?
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 10 лет назад
Hello! There are 3 micro screws on ribbed surface of focusing ring, make shure they are pefectly screwed inside holes, this can help
@teche7044
@teche7044 10 лет назад
Retro Foto House Thanks! I checked and it looks like there is just 1 screw there, the others are either stripped or missing - you are right on the money. I noticed that when I started unscrewing one of the three, that sleeve almost came off. Any chance these screws can be found anywhere? Like getting a bunch on ebay or something like that... I have no idea where to look. Cheers!
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 10 лет назад
Hello! you can try to find broken lens on ebay just to take screws out of it!
@benjamindejonge3624
@benjamindejonge3624 3 года назад
Great tutorial video, are there as well more blade sets available like a 12 blade or so for a better bokeh result?
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 3 года назад
yes, there is a helios 44 with 13 blades iris
@FabrizioSeriph
@FabrizioSeriph 8 лет назад
Grazie 1000 mi sei stato molto Utile ;)
@Rromik79
@Rromik79 8 лет назад
+Fabrizio Seri you're welcome! ;)
@shootvintage169
@shootvintage169 9 лет назад
Great video. Love the 44-2. :)
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 9 лет назад
Shoot Vintage Thank you! Me too! It is best lens by quality/price ratio.By the way, i have in my ebay shop modified version of helios 44-2 with square iris aperture, very similar to famous zenitar me1 2 blades iris lens. It allows to obtain very beautiful irregular square bokeh. If you're interested please check it up here- www.ebay.com/itm/HELIOS-44-2-58-2-SQUARE-IRIS-SHAPE-Zenitar-ME1-analog-/321705813612?ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
@NickTempest
@NickTempest 5 лет назад
I have an Helios 44M 6 but I can not open the front cover because there are not 2 holes as in all the ones I see on You Tube videos. How do I remove the front lens to clean it?
@namesurename-fotografiaana3168
@namesurename-fotografiaana3168 3 года назад
What about putting the whole aperture mechanism to the flask with alcohol/solvent and shake to remove oil?
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 3 года назад
unfortunately it won't work, i've tried.....
@namesurename-fotografiaana3168
@namesurename-fotografiaana3168 3 года назад
@@RetroFotoHouse Спасибо за профессиональную информацию. Мне нравится твой канал. С приветом из Польши. : )
@FrankP83
@FrankP83 2 года назад
to clean blades or the lens, can be used the lighter liquid also?!Thanks for the informative video! =)
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse Год назад
yes, it can be used. Purified kerosene
@ezio-falco
@ezio-falco 9 лет назад
Hello my friend! Now I own a wonderful collection of Helios 44. My favorite one is my M39 Zebra version. The aperture rigs is quite stiff at maximum aperture, so I tried to open the lens to fix it, as I did following your tutorial with a 44-2. Unfortunately, the lens does not open, even if I make quite a strong force. mightthis version opening procedure be different? Im afraid I'll broke something ... Thanks again! Ezio from Italy
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 9 лет назад
+Ezio Falco Hello! Sometimes, quite rarely the lens screwed in so strongly, that it is impossible to unscrew it. I had 3 helios lenses like that....
@AjiNMoto
@AjiNMoto 7 лет назад
satisfying...
@dabble778
@dabble778 5 лет назад
I removed 3 really tiny screws that might be grub screws. Problem is I lost one. Are screws in the Helios 44-2 metric or imperial? Thanks
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 5 лет назад
Metric of course
@guilhermepires3873
@guilhermepires3873 7 лет назад
Hi, I`m trying to open the front of a 44-5 but I don`t know how to proceed. There are no screw heads or microholes. Could you help me?
@pedrofalcao6253
@pedrofalcao6253 6 лет назад
Thank You!!!!
@bobbycuff
@bobbycuff 9 лет назад
Hi, I need help i took my helios 44 apart and the rear lens element did not come out as one piece put in seperate piece . I was able to clean all the glass elements front and rear but i can not figure out the order in to put back gthe rear elements. Do you know where i can find the order or the diagram
@woodypigeon
@woodypigeon 7 месяцев назад
What if I just soak the entire aperture assembly in alcohol or naphtha?
@javieragallegos
@javieragallegos 7 лет назад
holaa! what is the liquis that you use to clean the blades of aperture? i live in chile. Saludos!
@MrAprioriTerra
@MrAprioriTerra 9 лет назад
Thank you!
@Kenri_Basar
@Kenri_Basar 9 лет назад
The initial part was sooo fast? How did your lens come off? I am not able to rotate mine this way!
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 9 лет назад
+KayBee Hello! Sometimes you should apply a force to make lensblock come off. I had once in my practice lens that i was unable to unscrew...
@rauleduardo85
@rauleduardo85 5 лет назад
I'm out of luck. The part that you didn't show (focus ring) was the one I needed. Mine is stuck at 1.5 meters.
@byronkleoyang
@byronkleoyang 8 лет назад
Thanks for the video. Very informative. Do you know anything about MMZ BeLOMO 44-2 58mm? I can't find any information on this lens. Thank you. In my latest video, Daisho Con 2015, I used a Helios 44m 58mm with anamorphic adapter.
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 8 лет назад
+Byron Yang Hello! OptIcally it is the same, but production quality is better and there is no oil on the blades. But if you can, find 44-2 by KMZ, it is best one among all 3 versions
@byronkleoyang
@byronkleoyang 8 лет назад
+Retro Foto House Thank you so much! I will buy the KMZ version next.
@ezio-falco
@ezio-falco 9 лет назад
Hello! Thanks for this wonderful tutorial. Therefore, I'm having some trouble in re-assembling last blades. I also noticed that three of the eight blades are different from the other five ones. They do not have a pin on their rounded side, they only have a small hole. Might you help me? Thanks a lot in advance! Ezio form Italy.
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 9 лет назад
Ezio Falco Hello! it means that your blades are broken. You need to have these little pins, they should move in the grooves of the ring you put on the blades, otherwise it will not work....
@ezio-falco
@ezio-falco 9 лет назад
Thanks! I've taken away all blades, and now I've a perfect "bookeh-only" lens!. You have a new subscriber, now, 'cause you are so professional and kind. Ciao. Ezio
@juliendouvier650
@juliendouvier650 8 лет назад
Hello ! My helios 44-2 seems pretty clean, but when the aperture blades are fully open, I get some flares that reduce a lot the contrast (blacks become greyish), but when I close the aperture by rotating the ring on 5mm (probably to f/2.5), the flares disappear. I think light is reflected by a metallic ring when fully open, or maybe the edges of one glass element, and when I close the aperture just a little bit, this reflective part gets hidden by the blades and the contrast gets great again… Is this a well known problem ? I know this lens flares a lot, but this very small aperture difference can change the whole image contrast.
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 8 лет назад
It depends of piece, as manufacture quality was varying wery largely. Try to get one from Belomo factory. Manufacture quality is much higher as from Valday one.
@TomFindahl
@TomFindahl 3 года назад
Are there no markings to be done, so it could be put back the way it was?
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 3 года назад
all necessary steps are unveiled in video. please follow it step by step
@sarcasticfpv3862
@sarcasticfpv3862 2 года назад
@@RetroFotoHouse hi, I haven't done the markings as you showed. I tried to orient on your position from the video but is there no other way to know how far to screw it in ?
@daniel-ix
@daniel-ix 9 лет назад
Hi! So I just received this lens few days ago but my focus ring is very tight. Is there a way to make it smoother?
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 8 лет назад
+Daniel Dflip Hello! Yes, i plan to record a video explaining how to lubricate focusing part of 44-2
@FabioValdevies
@FabioValdevies 9 лет назад
I have a helios 44-2 too, with really oily blades, but i'm stuck at the very beginning, i can't open it!! Rotating the diafragm rings, ccw and the focusing ring cw, it remains as is, even with a great amount of force.. Should i use more force? I don't want to damage focus grip, i tried removing it also, but is difficult having grip on the inner flat ring on the elicoid.. Please help me,
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 9 лет назад
Hello! it is the matter of force, all the helioses 44-2 are opening like i showed in the video. Just it happens sometimes, that optical block is screwed inside helicoid with big force and it is really hard to unscrew it. I had more than 50 opened helios in my practice and only 2 of them i was unable to unscrew... It could be yours also.... Good luck!
@WOFurest
@WOFurest 9 лет назад
Hi! Why don't you use grease on it? Isn't that bad to let the mechanism operate dry?
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 8 лет назад
+WorldOfFurest it will not move smoothly in your case
@reboot2494
@reboot2494 5 лет назад
@@RetroFotoHouse which grease we should use. please reply. thank you
@practicalguy973
@practicalguy973 7 лет назад
Since this was designed with oil from the manufacturer, would be better to clean off all the old oil and replace with new oil? I would imagine no oil is more friction and wearing out the base of the blades after some years of use. Also adding oil is catching some small dust partials to keep if off the lenses.
@gelisob
@gelisob 7 лет назад
dont use your lens as a fidget spinner and you are fine. There is not so much action on the aperture blades to worry about them wearing out.
@mikeverveiko2782
@mikeverveiko2782 Год назад
Здравствуйте! Подскажите пожалуйста как можно открутить линзоблок у Helios 44-22 (валдайский) если по всем признакам резьба пникипела и откручиваться линзоблок не хочет?
@pirsaeed3290
@pirsaeed3290 Год назад
hi is this the same process for the 44-6 too?
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse Год назад
no, it is not the same
@sednasix6608
@sednasix6608 3 года назад
Just bought a “mint” condition Helios - item arrived to my surprise with the diaphragm ring marker in reverse. Manufacturing error? Or someone opened the lens up like this, cleaned it and assembled the ring in reverse? I now have to guess my apertures... where the marker shows f16 it’s actually f2 and vice versa. Any way to fix this?
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mtVZT4JK-OE.html
@Beery1962
@Beery1962 4 года назад
Great tutorial! Thank you.
@razbiton173
@razbiton173 Год назад
Will it work on helios 44 13 blades silver too?
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse Год назад
yes, except to put together a 13 blades is much harder than 8 blades.
@coin777
@coin777 9 месяцев назад
11:39 cat sound
@Piggyy33
@Piggyy33 10 месяцев назад
If it was me, I'd have all screws in a small tray as I go, I'd clean bench regularly, I'd use non metal tweezers so not to scratch lens parts, my screw drivers would be the correct size for the screw, I'd have all unassembled parts laid out in order, and would align screw driver with screw direction. So many frustrating things here.
@evlogiy
@evlogiy 6 лет назад
Okay!
@quite1enough
@quite1enough 3 года назад
my aperture ring is really lose, what should I do to make it a little bit more tight? у меня кольцо диафрагмы очень очень легко ходит, что мне нужно сделать, чтобы сделать его чуть потуже?
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 3 года назад
вам надо разобрать объектив и поменять смазку на резьбе кольца диафрагмы
@quite1enough
@quite1enough 3 года назад
@@RetroFotoHouse боюсь что разберу и не соберу (
@HackingDutchman
@HackingDutchman 8 лет назад
I can not unscrew the front part of the lens, like you do at the beginning in the video? Anyone has some tips?
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 8 лет назад
Sometimes it happens, i had 4 lenses among more than 100 that i was unanle to unscrew
@HackingDutchman
@HackingDutchman 8 лет назад
Than I just got 2 of them suckers that won't open up :(
@vptheo
@vptheo 6 лет назад
me too and olso they are deferend on botom
@alexanderoneill7781
@alexanderoneill7781 6 лет назад
Well if you're still interested two years later, there are probably small screws on the side of your lens. I would imagine those need to be taken out before the lens can be unscrewed as seen in the video.
@erindi23
@erindi23 9 лет назад
Thank you for the much helpful videos! I have a Helios 44k-4 with Pentax K mount. Would be needing some help putting the pieces together. I have been googling all over but no disassembly instructions anywhere. It is similar to the 44m but not the back part, up to the apperture blades. I could also make a donation on PayPal for that :) Thanks in advance!
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 9 лет назад
Vale Er Hello! It will come in nearest future, but actually i do not have it in my hands to make a video. Subscribe and you will get it!
@erindi23
@erindi23 9 лет назад
Already subscribed! Looking forward, thanks a lot
@hieunghi1051
@hieunghi1051 4 года назад
What is the solution wich used to clean the blade?
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 4 года назад
pure alcohol
@bublt4me
@bublt4me 7 лет назад
Can I be lazy and not take out the aperture blades to remove the oil?
@DrakovYerno
@DrakovYerno 10 месяцев назад
6:32 tony stark's paladium
@grzegorznowak9123
@grzegorznowak9123 2 года назад
One mistake - To completely clean out the oil is a mistake, the oil has a specific function there. The manufacturer PROVIDED for lubrication of the aperture blades, as in almost every lens with a preselective aperture. Completely removing the oil is a mistake. A "professional" should know this :)
@man-ngokduskyso6654
@man-ngokduskyso6654 4 года назад
OMG, the blades really are the pain in ass
@mastadas
@mastadas 4 года назад
How the heck he just screw it out at the start? Mine is just don't move at all.
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 4 года назад
sometimes you should apply a force, it depends of lens.
@Moses_Kanneh
@Moses_Kanneh 4 года назад
Hello, I love your videos they are very helpful. I have a Helios 44-2; the focus ring came off of the focusing block not to long ago, do to the tiny screws being striped. I was wondering if you know the size of those slotted set screws that hold the focus ring on the focus block? I'm also not sure where I can get screws that tiny.
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 3 года назад
you need m1.4x4mm screws without head
@2piecechickenbox
@2piecechickenbox 2 года назад
hi is this the same process for the 44 too ?
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 2 года назад
yes, for 44 8 blades version. For 13 blades this is more difficult to get all baldes put in place
@gixrec
@gixrec 5 месяцев назад
Is it possible that the oil is leaking out onto the sensor camera? please reply
@RetroFotoHouse
@RetroFotoHouse 5 месяцев назад
no, it is not possible
@gixrec
@gixrec 5 месяцев назад
@@RetroFotoHouse thanks, nice info
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