How To: P71 Message Center Cluster Swap - Crown Vic/Grand Marquis

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Been wanting to make this video for a couple of years now, finally got around to doing it.
This is gonna go over the basics and instructions of installing a message center cluster into your P71, or non-message center cluster Crown Victoria or Grand Marquis. (They had civilian models without message centers, but they were pretty rare surprisingly)
What you're gonna need:
-Message center cluster
-Message center buttons w/pigtail (A few inches of wiring)
-3 pins to add to your cluster's harness
-Message center button dash trim (optional, but required for factory look)
Gauge Cluster Harness: (Adding these)
Pin 13 - Gray/Orange Stripe
Pin 14 - Light Blue/Yellow Stripe
Pin 15 - Light Blue/White Stripe
Button Harness:
Black - Ground
Orange/Black Stripe - Illumination (Only necessary if you want the buttons to light up)
Gray/Orange Stripe - Pin 13 on cluster plug
Light Blue/Yellow Stripe - Pin 14 on cluster plug
Light Blue/White Stripe - Pin 15 on cluster plug
The illumination feed is 12v. You can tap into any switched 12v circuit, and the lights will just be on whenever the key is on, but you won't have the dimming function. If you tap into an illumination wire, the buttons will come on with the headlights, and will dim with the dimmer.
If you have any questions, feel free to comment below. If this helped you at all, please "like" the video! Feel free to check my other videos out and if you like my content, go ahead and subscribe!

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16 окт 2024

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@abukumar9211 3 года назад

Just did the swap today, everything works great! couldn't figure out where to tie the wire for illumination. Found all trim and wires at the Junkyard. Thanks for posting this its been a big help.

@encinobalboa 2 года назад

Take switch illumination from Defrost switch.

@andrewfiori4113 Год назад

I just want to say I'm really grateful for this video! I watched it a few weeks ago and then stumbled upon a 2006 Marquis at the junkyard in Ajax and pulled everything I needed. Strapped the buttons to the fuse panel bracket. Thank you so much! If you want the remainder of the donor harness so you can pull pins it's all yours.

@doolkore 3 года назад

I was looking for a video on how to fix my odometer illumination issue when this popped up. Instead of fixing the old one I made a trip to the junk yard. I pulled the cluster out of an 07 mgm along with the button module and an extra harness. I followed your instructions and it worked perfectly. Thanks for the idea and instructions man!

@abukumar9211 3 года назад

Thanks for making this video! I have an 08 grand marquis with the standard cluster and want to swap it for this message center cluster. Going to pull one for the yard this week. At least now I have an idea of what needs to be done. I appreciate it!

@trouble603 2 года назад

Thanks for making this video. When I bought my grand marquis I was wishing it had the info center, now it does

@daddiepost Год назад

Thank you for this! Worked out great

@encinobalboa 2 года назад

Thanks for video. Very helpful. Just finished my MC swap. Cluster came from non-TCS car so getting error light in my TCS equipped car. (No, I did not put a 06 cluster into a non-06 car.) I am told FORSCAN config needed to restore traction control function. Illumination and ground taken from Defrost switch.

@encinobalboa 2 года назад

Took forever to get OBS Link EX for Forcan. Anyways, figured out how to configure cluster. Turning off TPMS light and turning on hour meter were straight forward. Still getting TCS error regardless of how TCS is set in the cluster. I have IC bit 2 set to 1 which is how the car was built. Ideas?

@gorillasoulja2376 3 года назад

I have a 2011 Ford Crown Victoria, I have a 2009 Lincoln Town Cluster. So r u saying that if I put the 2009 Lincoln Town Cluster in my 2011 Crown Victoria the AC want work????

@svajesz 10 месяцев назад

Ho Brian! My 2011 CVPI break and abs lights newer show up. Not even when i do a cluster bulbs test. Do you know what is the problem? Thanks for your answer!

@NeonDreams7 Месяц назад

Changed the message center gauge cluster as mine was bad, is there a way to set my cluster odometer to the old cluster? Is there a service I can send this to?

@rafaelortiz6493 Год назад

I have a 96 Crown vic and im curious if i swap with a digital one will it mess up any milage numbers?

@maxiethefoxxie Год назад

Do you have any 07-11 Gauge Clusters with the Message Center? Mine in my P7B is dying on me, and it keeps just powering off completely.

@SaudAlfurhud Год назад

I have MGM 09 and when cleaning the cluster i touched fuel needle and now its read incorrectly and different measures, like in the morning its read half full afternoon read full and so on, Any idea?

@darnellivy4351 3 месяца назад

So I can swap my 2006 crown Victoria cluster to a 2007-2011 cluster crown Victoria or a Grand Marquis with the same look I was told I can only use 2006 crown Victoria model

@kmkfan1975 Год назад

I have a 2010 crown Vic P8B and my message center screen only displays odometer, trip meter, and idle hours. Is there a trick to get the other functions to work? I had a 2011 Dodge Avenger and the message center showed fuel levels, tpms guage, mpg levels, ect. I was under the impression that the 2010 P71s and P8Bs had pretty much the same info on their message center. Is that not correct? Or do I need to "program" my cluster or add pins or something? Any info you have is greatly appreciated. I'm new to the interceptors but I will DEFINITELY be buying more. Thanks in advance for any help or direction you may have. Happy new year as well.

@pablo7336 Год назад

I believe your message center by default only shows the 3 features you mentioned. The civilian crown vics/MGM message centers are bigger. They are taller vertically. This is why one would need to do the swap demonstrated in this video

@juanmanuelgil3436 Год назад

thank you for making this video I finally found the parts I needed today and i will be making the swap In about 20 days when they get here from Canada. I was wondering do you have any of those 32 pin connectors around? Im needing one to be able to add the pins from it to my own connector and wire the message center switches

@breal5790 Год назад

I want to change the one on my 2006 Ford crown Victoria so which one would I have to look for just a 2006 or 2006 to 2011

@zackstephens7997 3 года назад

Watching rn brian

@t0nwon52 7 месяцев назад

how much for the kit? definitely interested!

@zekeholloway4413 4 месяца назад

2006 clusters also did not have a cruise control light!!! i had an 06 and was going to install cruise but i noticed when i tested all the bulbs there is no light for CC!! 2007 later they moved some lights around and put the CC light in the tachometer.

@DocM. 3 года назад

2011 CVPI P7B: All the gauges work, gauge back lighting works, and warning lights work, but only the digital odometer doesnt work. I can't see miles anymore, what's wrong? I pulled every fuse and are all good. Please help!

@graydai1007 2 года назад

I have crown vic 2000 I really want to swap the cluster to 2011 can it work? I heard that you need to change the wire sorry for my bad English

@jasoncooper3116 3 года назад

I got the dash trim out of a 1998 civilian model to go in my 2007 P71. It has a clock in it. Do you have a wiring diagram or a video showing how to wire up the clock?

@7.3bronco 2 года назад

What if the cluster is equipped with tire monitoring and the car isn't. Is there a way to turn it off? Possibly forscan?

@johnnyhernandez348 5 месяцев назад

Is there a way to make the town car cluster work with the ac?

@durdeydolla1 3 года назад

What wires you use to get it to work on the bench outside the car?

@keithcaudillcrcrc 10 месяцев назад

Hey Brian, do you have a website to buy your kit?

@gorillasoulja2376 3 года назад

U the man!!!! I been trying to do this for the longest. I just did not know how. Thank u. Now I do have a Question. I have a Gauge Cluster from a 2010 Mercury Grand Marquis, my personal vehicle is a 2011 P7B Crown Victoria. My question is I have the 2010 Cluster and I got the wiring harness for the 2010 cluster. Is it easier if I just ran the wires from the control button to the wiring harness by matching the colors since wiring harness came from the cluster in that 2010?

@josepina4622 2 года назад

Can you or can I change the cluster instrument of a P71 for a Grand Marquis digital?

@j.arreola 2 года назад

U have any new full set available for plug and play ? I want to up grade mine. Green cluster is boring. I have a 08 crown Victoria p71

@sussextechautobody9914 3 года назад

Hey Brian great video. I just bought a 07 P71 and the cluster will only work for a few seconds at a time, mostly it doesn't work at all. I found several videos about repairing the dime odometer at it also showed re-soldering the main connector pins that go through the circuit board. I re-soldered it even though nothing looked wrong with it. I got excited when I reinstalled it because the cluster stayed on for as long as it ever had (maybe 35 seconds) then off again. if I twist the connection it will come on, this is driving me nuts! I don't want to spend much money on this thing, it is just a fun project for my teenage sons and myself. Do you have any suggestions? I would appreciate any advice. Thanks John

@1nsurgent Год назад

Check the wiring harness (and connector that plugs into the speedometer) for any looseness and or corrosion. If you do have to replace the wiring harness for the speedometer you will need to disconnect the negative battery cable and take out most if not all the dash components and possibly remove the dash to replace the harness (gain way more access to it).

@harrybowers1204 3 года назад

I have a 2011 crown vic, with a town car dash installed. It's the can bus system stopping my a/c from working? The a/c did work then stopped one day right around the time I switched the dash to town car dash.

@danieljsbiroli5717 3 года назад

i have a 2006 crown vic an nothing on my gauge cluster works i have the one in my car you are puting in can you help or point my in the right direction to fixs it

@joegallagher9167 3 года назад

What about the digital clusters that u cant get not even a new after market one

@thedudejackietreehorn Месяц назад

I did a swap from an 07 Towncar and the mileage was 719000 kilometres!

@durdeydolla1 3 года назад

Thank you very informative 💪🏿💪🏿any thoughts on using the full digital cluster from the 2005 mgm

@brandonmccullough9672 3 года назад

Where can I purchase?

@bubba.watercraftj7269 2 года назад

Got a DTC 900. 2009 grand marquis. Any ideas? (In engineering mode)

@christophermunoz205 11 месяцев назад

Can you swap one in a 98-02 towncar

@kyecourt Месяц назад

Do you have contact info and sell all this?

@JG-xf4pt 3 года назад

Do you have a kit for sale? I’d be interested in buying one from you.

@doaburnout1205 2 года назад

Is there any I can use for a 2001 vic p71?

@juanmanuelgil3436 3 года назад

Do you know if the Odometer reading automatically changes? If it shows correct mileage when the new cluster with message center is installed in the car. Thank you

@Dabulewicz 3 года назад

Odometer is recorded in the cluster. So whats on the cluster is what's going to be in the car

@juanmanuelgil3436 3 года назад

@@Dabulewicz Yeah that's totally what i guessed. I did some research, and i think if the new cluster you get has a lower mileage, it can be programmed with the new high mileage of your actual car using ford IDS

@juanmanuelgil3436 3 года назад

@@Dabulewicz Other options would be to use the EEPROM method, desolder the chip, program, and solder again. But that's a little tedious.

@abukumar9211 3 года назад

I pulled mine from the yard today and the mileage came from that particular cluster

@NuclearLizard 3 года назад

Would it be possible to switch out a manual climate control module for an automatic one on a crown Vic?

@BriansGarage 3 года назад

It IS possible, but the amount of work is usually deemed not worth it. You basically have to start out by replacing every single component of the HVAC system, all blend doors, blower motor resistor, I believe the blower motor itself may be different but I don’t remember for sure. Then you also have to replace the dash harness which also involves dropping the dash and taking most of it apart along with it being dropped

@francisxavier6772 3 года назад

Hey I tried looking on instagram . Good luck on that and I see you don't answer your comments I would like to purchase also but a month wait and no answer???