Tip from an automotive painter. Be sure after you clean the metal surface to apply an aerosol etching primer and let it sit on the cup for about 30 or so minutes. It will really cause the paint to stick by causing little abrasions in the metal and allow a much better hold on the paint itself.
can't wait! I just got a Cricut machine about a week ago and I'm looking into making these cups. ur videos are so helpful that I think I might just go for it! 🙊 lol
I plan to give this a try at some time next week, but I want to do a color underneath the transfer paper/vinyl. Is there any specific directions I would need to know other than making sure it's dry and evenly coated before applying my design? Also if I were to keep the vinyl on, what are the drawbacks? Is there a preferred way to have a vinyl decal on the Tumbler and still paint it?
I do lots of tumblers with a peek-a-boo color under- definitely let fully dry before applying a stencil! I use Oracle 631 (not 651) which doesn't mess up the base color for me. I also frequently paint a tumbler and then apply a vinyl design. I usually just paint, glitter (optional), triple thick to seal, apply the vinyl decal, and epoxy over the top. You can also apply the vinyl to the top of the epoxy, whichever you prefer. If you have instagram, check me out for more examples of both of these! @madmuggingmama
Love the vid, very informative. I would just like to ask if this works on rings as well? I've been planning to color some of my stainless rings, buy I'm not sure how it'll stick to the surface. Thanks for the help!
Honestly, either way! If you put the vinyl on first, I would put it on after the two layers of triple thick spray. Then let the vinyl set for at least 24 hours- it will work out any tiny air bubbles you might get. Then epoxy over. That way, the vinyl won't ever come off. Alternately, if you want to be able to change the decal to change up the look of the tumbler, I would epoxy first, let fully cure (24 hours) then apply the decal. :)
Great video. I've not considered painting the tumblers in this manner. I have only powder coated them. I have to drive 60 miles to the shop in order to do so, now I have a way to play at home :) Thanks! I do have question. I always use vinyl. Can you show me how you used JUST transfer tape?
Thanks! I have actually been using 631 recently. I started doing more intricate cuts and the transfer tape just wasn't working for me anymore. I use 631, if it helps. still comes off clean, no reside, and I get cleaner lines.
Do you remove the tape between paint and epoxy? You remove it here at the end of the video but if you were moving directly to the epoxy stage would you leave it on and only remove it once? Or remove it and retape before epoxy?
Kelli Shuffler I've done it both ways. I usually just leave the tape on from the paint to the epoxy stage, but for this video, I removed just to show how it would look. Sometimes I remove the tape and reapply before epoxy if I do layered colors, just to make sure I'm sealing it properly
A little advice from a vinyl guy...... Saturate the transfer paper of the design with water or the rubbing alcohol to help the adhesive release a little easier. :)
Couple of questions. 1. The Krylon clear coat you use is like triple thick? I've seen others use triple thick and I can only find it online. 2. Is it necessary to leave the lip at the top of your using the food safe epoxy?
I have found that after the two layers of clear coat, I notice a small amount of glitter shed (minimal). I recommend doing to epoxy to completely eliminate shed.
MrVinnyVp no. spray paint does not need to.be heat cured. only need to heat cure if you are powder coating. I have heard of people curing these in house ovens, and it's actually incredibly dangerous
Will the krylon triple thick help a vinyl sticker on a tumbler stay on longer ? Or what do you recommend all I want to do is apply vinyl decals on store bought tumblers , I just don’t want them coming or when there washed.. thank you
Patricia McGlone sure stainless steel tumbler (any brand) electrical tape, masking tape, or painters tape sand paper (I use medium grit, but it doesn't matter) spray paint (krylon or Rustoleum seems to work the best) spray glitter (Rustoleum or whatever) *if you want to use loose glitter, I'd recommend a spray adhesive- lightly spray, let dry 1 minute, dust with glitter for a very light coat triple thick spray (krylon brand) vinyl decal (since making this video I have started using oracle 631 for my stencil instead of the transfer tape) rubbing alcohol respirator paper towel plastic bag an fda approved two part epoxy for a final sealant (see the how to epoxy your tumbler video on this channel)
yes! I actually have a video that has been recorded that will be edited and uploaded soon. It will cover a different type of stencil, but the basics are the same.
If you want the paint to last ,they have matte clear coats, but I can't testify to how long they last. I use a two part epoxy to seal mine after the spray, because it also makes them food safe. The epoxy is pretty glossy
Nicole Marable you'd have to check the specific cup you buy. these ozark trail brand cups come as being not dishwasher safe. it will mess with the insulation in the cup. the epoxy will make the finish safe, but not the actual cup. :)
Uniquely Twisted By Tisha technically yes. I'd use the dishwasher safe mode modge because I think it might be food safe. I do a final seal with food safe epoxy over the clear seal. The mod podge may be streaky, but it should work. I can't say how long it will last as I've never tried it
Hi Cheryl! I'm getting into all the rage of making and selling epoxied/resin tumblers. Seems like you've been doing them long before it became trendy and are a first pioneer of sorts. I was just watching some youtube tutorials, and discovered yours. I saw the date you posted this...so you've been making these beauties for quite some time. Did you discover and start epoxying tumblers, making you the originator of this idea? If so, I would like to give you credit whenever I post my tumblers in the 2 tumbler groups I belong to. I've been searching Google to find the originator of this idea of painting and epoxying tumblers, to no avail. Thank you for your time and for your wonderful videos you make and so kindly share.
Tami Alex that is so sweet of you to consider! I have been doing this a long time and I've taught so many people how to paint And epoxy. A lot of videos came after mine . I want to say I heard about using epoxy in one of the crafting groups on Facebook. I don't remember which one. There was an image I saw that posted written instructions for how to glitter a cup and listed the epoxy. I did some research on which epoxy to use and I've been doing it ever since! So the long and short of it, no I wasn't the very first... But definitely one of the first! I did this for a while before recording these, but I can't remember when I started up
Thanks for your very prompt reply, Cheryl! I'm actually trying my first tumbler as we speak...I decided to start with a simple glitter tumbler and just mixed a plethora of glitter to make my own, and I'm LOVIN' how it looks right now. I taped off the top and bottom, wiped it down with alcohol and used spray adhesive. I didn't paint it first, but it still covered in one glitter sprinkling session...not sure if it's best to do two, regardless...? I don't have one of those automatic turners as I haven't had the opportunity to get the parts. I actually got back online to check out the video where someone gives a tutorial about epoxying with filled soda cans. I know that the epoxy levels out, as I've worked with epoxy for other projects...but they were all flat, lol! I don't know if I can manually turn a tumbler for an hour or so on my own. I don't want to start to do it and find out I can't...this tumbler is too pretty to have to scrape all that beautiful sparkl'ation off that's going on right now. Oh how I wish you could have remembered the facebook group where you saw the instructions/tutorial. Some people are taking claim and are strongly requesting that we mention them if we make a tumbler that resembles theirs. Believe me, I give recognition where it's due...but I've noticed other tumblers out there prior to their tutorials. So, if you've been doing them for over 2 years, you my dear, are the one I'd like to give credit to as being one of the first pioneers, if I'm asked. I actually have something up my sleeve that I've noticed people are having no luck with replicating...but, I want to at least get a 'normal' one under my wing first before I start experimenting, lol! Well, I'd better let you go. Thank you again for your kindness and replying. Have a fantabulous day, Cheryl!
Tami Alex you are so sweet! People have branched off and developed their own techniques and have done some amazing things with these tumblers and epoxy! Some have messaged me in thanks, some have not. I honestly am not one to ask for recognition. I posted these tutorials as a very basic introduction to painting/glitter/epoxy and I wanted people to use it and run with it! I don't need the recognition... But mentioning my RU-vid helps a lot! The money I make from ads on RU-vid are going towards our dream of owning our own business (a bed and breakfast in the mountains) down the road. So I appreciate it! Also, I don't have an automatic turner. I just turn every 10 to 15 minutes for about an hour, until I notice drips stop. I usually do so many at a time that a turner is impractical for me. I also like to inspect the tumbler as it cures to watch for bubbles, bare spots, rough spots etc, and I feel like if it was on a turner I would be lazy and not inspect them. Good luck! I have a Facebook page as well under the same name. I'd like to see how your tumbler turns out!!!
Ahhhhh, a B&B sounds so divine. Where do you live? And yes, I'd be more than happy to mention your RU-vid channel. And yes, I will try to send you a pic of my finished tumbler. :) I'll hop of hear and head back to Facebook to give you another 'Like' and follower!
when there is rough area after the epoxy is dry and you wet sand do you epoxy the whole cup again or just the rough spot? my rough spot is around the middle of the cup where it starts to get smaller... on that edge
Sherry Brown depends on the size of the spot.. try it out- if it doesn't blend well, sand over the spot of epoxy again and do a larger area or the whole cup. thin coat!
I used vinyl and as you mentioned there is residue left after I peeled it off. Is there a way to remove the residue without ruining the paint? I haven't put on the triple thick yet
Pat Janowiak I have found I get better results using the spray first, let dry for several days, then seal the epoxy. I tend to get dimples in my epoxy when I don't use the spray
my question is regarding the kylon clear gloss.. I used 2 coats to finish about 7 paint dipped cups.... after weeks, the stainless part (where I removed the decal ) became very dotted/air bubble looking under the clear coat. I easily removed the clear from a big area and applied the epoxy after.... any ideas why the clear coat would do that?
Gina Vega I'm not sure but it's possible that the clear gloss could have been damaged from washing and general use. I always epoxy all of my cups so I haven't had that problem!
Thanks for posting! I haven't tried making a mug yet.... o.O Did you say that you use contact paper for the decal on the mug? It looks white, so I thought maybe I misunderstood. Did you eventually take the entire decal off? I saw you pull of the dot in the ''i' but did you take the rest of it off too? Thanks again!
I use a transfer tape/contact paper (Silhouette or Cricut brand, either way). I think Con-Tact paper might work too but I haven't tried it yet! I do take the whole decal off after painting and before glittering and sealing. Make sure to take the whole decal off before applying a sealant or it'll be impossible to get off cleanly. Thanks for watching!
great tutorial! I have a silhouette cameo, so do I cut my decal with the actual transfer paper? I ask because we usually cut our words on the vinyl and pick them up with the transfer paper
farida jararah recently I have moved to using Oracle 631 for my stencil. I find it easier to remove than 651, especially if I have to let them sit for a few days.
jewell lopez I make my stencils using oracle 631 vinyl, and I cut with my silhouette cameo. you can use anything you have! I've made simple designs with different thicknesses of masking tape or electrical tape
The paint will come off fairly easily if there is no epoxy and it is also not food safe. It would not be safe to drink from. Definitely no dishwasher for these, as just the cups alone are not dishwasher safe, even after epoxy.
You have to bake the cup in oven at a low temp 150 ish for 45 min -hour it will cure the paint and it won’t come off unless you sand it off otherwise it’s garbage it will scratch off with a fingernail lol
savage39 if for some reason you feel the need to bake the cup (not recommend at all)... Please do so in a dedicated craft oven. NOT in your house oven. Baking painted cups is really only for powder coating, not for spray paint. Baking spray paint isn't a permanent fix and will eventually scratch.
The paint is not a food safe product. I have contacted the paint manufacturer's and they do not recommend using the paint for any risk of human consumption. I always leave a little bit of a space at the top for this reason. I also coat in a food safe two-part epoxy after painting to ensure it is safe to drink out of.
I just remove the stencil once the paint is completely dry. Sometimes I can get it within 15 minutes- other times I have let it sit for several hours until I have time to work again.
The Life Project no. the cups themselves are not dishwasher safe. there are some cups that are (I think Yeti might be). but I'd follow up with the two part epoxy, also shown on this channel).
What are you using as the stencil? I am considering spray painting one for a family member that is graduating. I will not be using glitter( its for a dude). Do I still need to epoxy it? what route would you go? TIA
Kimber Mcnitt I currently use oracle 631 vinyl for my stencils. works a lot better. yes- still need to epoxy. the epoxy is a food safe product when fully cured. the paints and other sealants are not food safe.
I am having trouble getting my stencil up without messing up the paint. I have tried it both 2 hours after I sprayed it and 8 hours after. Do you have any suggestions?
I think the 631 is the better option because it's "less permanent"- Here's what I found: "The main difference between 651 and 631 is going to fall in the adhesive on the vinyl and the finish on the vinyl. Both are calendared films and can be used both indoors and outdoors. Oracal 631 has a matte finish on it - meaning it does not have the glossy sheen to it, it also has a lighter adhesive so it is best used indoors and can be removed faily easily. The ourdoor life on Oracal 631 is 3 years. Oracal 651 has a gloss finish to it, unless noted matte. It is mainly used for outdoor use and has a 6 year outdoor life on Black/White and a 4 year outdoor life on all colors. The adhesive on it is more permanent, so it would not be very good as a temporary vinyl. Generally you will need a squeegee for applying the vinyl to a surface and application tape for the vinyl If you have anymore questions click to chat with one of our representatives."
KnowBlackTie so what if I am using it as a stencil when I spray but want the metal to show through? That's where I am having trouble. As I pull the stencil off it brings some of the spray paint with it :(
Same thing- the 631 is not permanent so it's easier to come up. I've tried both. The 651 will come up but it's more likely (at least in my case it was) to pull more paint and have less cleaner edges.
J Phillips I do, on occasion. It depends on my work load! I also work full time for an architect and I have a 2 year old so my plate is pretty full at times!
I want to paint a cup and put stencil on, is there a way you can paint whole cup and then do stencil and then clear coat and epoxy? Or will it be to bulky?
Viktor Salas you'll hear conflicting information here, but for me, yes. it is necessary for safety. the epoxy i use to seal is limited food safe. I don't want it in my mouth!
I was wondering that too. Shouldn't we leave the tape on in that case, until the whole process is complete? TFS this process. You are a very good teacher and you don't miss telling us about any steps. Love it!!
Kilsher Dany thank you! so, I do it both ways, just depends on the project. I usually leave the tape on, but you can remove the tape and reapply the tape before epoxy to seal the edge if needed.
