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This is my current process for tuning. There are lots of different methods out there so find what works best for you but I hope there are some tips in here that help :)
Stingy's video on PID tuning: • Tuning With Stingy & M...
My video on Betaflight OSD: • the EASY way to PID TU...
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@Sean-fs1sg 6 лет назад

Watched so many PID tuning videos, but this one made sense in such a way that I now have a repeatable approach to tuning rather than randomly screwing with numbers..... thanks for the vid!

@deeeeeds 6 лет назад

Right around 4:22 you're like, "Did you see a little propwash?" but we totally can't because you didn't cut to the footage. 😉

@modzfpv555 6 лет назад

Haha yeah I actually said no coz u didn't show us lol

@662SSIPPI Год назад

i have found that all the flying styles on the interwebs i like your style flying the best. i been flying a year with a tinywoop and just built my first 5" and started freestyle flying about a month ago. my flying is the flow style it seems..or i like it the best. looking foward to more content..if you even read these comments .im just a poor broke bastard from the mississippi delta...peace out

@JeremiahJames 6 лет назад

I really wish betaflight and the others had walk through option which basically just asks you key details of your quad, and in turn it enters the best settings for what you have. Size of quad, size/kv of motors, size and pitch of props, type of FC (it should already know this), size of lipos, total weight, how aggressive you fly? etc, etc.. Seems like it could generate much better, if not ideal stock PIDs by doing this.

@theibault 6 лет назад

The girls at the airport cracked me up. Nice video. I agree that modern FCs make it so much easier.

@adammorin2744 6 лет назад

Love the video and channel! It would be awesome to have a troubleshooting guide. Something like a lookup table where it says the issue and what PIDs to adjust. Then maybe some simple manuvers that help you illuminate those specific pid terms. You mention in the video that you usually drop P if you see jello in HD footage. This would translate to, ISSUE: Jello in HD cam; FIX: Typically lower P. Just a thought that maybe the brains at RR could put together...

@gerrie5014787 6 лет назад

Again you post content targeted at helping the community. Keep it up you are appreciated.

@JoeStanFPV 6 лет назад

Good info drew. You're theory on the yaw for a 6" def makes sense. Just put a new fc in my 6" so I'll keep that in mind when i tune, thanks!

@2bolts304 6 лет назад

A really comprehensive video thank you drew probably the best one I've seen yet

@dr.fpvmadness2513 6 лет назад

I agree, stock PIDS are so good today, starting your tune from the stock PIDS makes it easier and faster than lowering I & D at start. My thoughts and curiosity makes me wonder that with the stock PIDS being so good now days, wouldn't turning off the notch filters give a pilot the same locked in feeling, rather than going thru a whole tune session? I ask this because I have gotten so used to flying around the quirks, that I haven't even tried removing my notch filters yet. Mahalo for your input, "Blue skies and french-fries to you." Aloha!

@AllenBrooks 6 лет назад

Dr. FPV Madness always start from default plain an simple

@fpvriicsii2045 5 лет назад

Hi Drib! I will tell you about Hungary. I've tried your PIDs and have to say terribly good :) It is true that my assembly has nothing to do with your stuff (Fc, regulator, motors) but terribly good. It's as if my machine is pulled on a rope :) A real fan: Richard

@JPTulo 2 года назад

I know this is old, but it’s still really helpful! Another addition to my archive 🙌

@RedDestroyer4 6 лет назад

Nice video definitely will help

@boo-d-crax7575 5 лет назад

Could you maybe do a video about all the different components to a quadcopter and where to find them for someone like me who doesn’t know much about building a mini drone for FPV but I’m super excited about getting into it

@onemantwohands5224 6 лет назад

Lol "the flowzone" I had that today :-) :-) great explanation and no need for serious editing mate, this was one of the best I've seen so far. I connected to this vlog :-) :-) cheers

@Politicallyhomeless957 6 лет назад

PID's at the end are personal pref. Nice vid

@donaldtrump5489 6 лет назад

Just run default pids on KISS. Everything else is riding the coattails of KISS innovation. They pioneered Dshot and dynamic filtering.

@policeswat64 6 лет назад

Check out Pismo beach or San Diego while your out here. Alot of good flying spots

@Its_Mee_Bee 6 лет назад

If you haven’t figured it out yet, you’re going to love the low rpm thrust you get on a 6in quad. I find I’m able to wait longer to pull out of a dive, and do it without having to go WOT. Now if only there were as many prop options as there are for 5in!

@caseydimmitt2449 5 лет назад

gemfan flash 6042 x3 its all you need! avan long range for longer flights with only slightly less control.

@BirdlessFlight 6 лет назад

I always fly with music and I actually like pumping the throttle on the beat or vocals, especially right before going into an actual move :)

@fibo12358 6 лет назад

helps me understand the minutia of analyzing the best values, thanks and nice vid!

@whoopwhoopification 6 лет назад

6 inch ftw!❤

@jakesouthard9175 4 года назад

when i punch the throttle, and then take it to 0, the nose drops fairly drastically. what do I adjust , the i Pitch?

@awalfpv9440 6 лет назад

So you finally finished the vid! Well done sir!

@kaasovic 6 лет назад

Thanks Drib, helpful and informative to see your process and learn the technical components

@AllenBrooks 6 лет назад

Good stuff Drew, pids are personal preference generally, just start from stock pids...

@foundcause898 6 лет назад

No idea how you tune through fpv, audio/visual cues help so much

@1337flite 6 лет назад

I had problem tuning out oscillations from a 6" which had been OK before. When I got home I found that 3 of the 4 nuts holding on the FC were missing. You know FC flapping in the wind will do that lol.

@flymoon24 6 лет назад

Thanks Le Drib, another helpful and enjoyable video.

@DarrellDrinkwine 6 лет назад

I see you had the same twitches, and movements that I have been struggling with. Quad feels great, but my HD is horrible. I'm going to chalk it up as cold temperatures, and electronics not coping well with that. Time to get a whoop and stay inside until the temps stay above freezing. Good show as always, Drew!

@LeDribFPV 6 лет назад

Yup cold makes things act weird and also wind :/

@ugpfpv361 6 лет назад

One of your best videos to date!!!

@propabilityfpv303 6 лет назад

Hey bro ive been lovin your motors, i replaced a bell on a motor with a regular hypetrain bell and it works great, but the only thing is i was just hovering regularly and a motor acted up and burnt out, turns out the coating on one of the coils shorted out, its all good tho cuz ima use a diferent motor and it was about time to upgrade my esc's to 30A. Apperently i just got unlucky because its a rare thing that they have heard of.

@soflyfpv 5 лет назад

anti gravity gain is usually in Miscellaneous in the on screen display

@Unsub223 6 лет назад

What if the default pids are not letting you fly. Basically I wobble so hard by the time I get a few inches off the ground I flip ? I know it’s the pids I’ve checked everything else ?

@mrnobody9821 6 лет назад

Nice video, I’m a noob and I need this stuff broken down until I memorise it all

@MrLanun8x 6 лет назад

I saw the bf newes on 323 but havent try it yet.. cause i still using the 322.. kinda suit.. i would like to copy your tune but not sure it suit with my 5" ..but will try it.. thanks for the video👍

@scooterfpv8864 6 лет назад

Intently listens . . . . think I see it now the things . Much thanks .

@DangerDavefpv 6 лет назад

great pid tuning,thank u this is still my weakness aside from shit for flying lol.. keep it coming brother

@skyrantfpv7245 6 лет назад

safe travels!

@tsmspace 6 лет назад

I have been thinking a lot about photography racing drones, and how many photographers should switch to using them instead of exclusively photography type drones for their shots. You comment on flying differently to compensate for some stability issues instead of tuning them out,, I think that a photographer would LOVE to use vibration, throttle torque, etc. As photgraphic effects.

@dominickeen6091 6 лет назад

Love your videos and tutorials! Would love to fly with you some day! I have a 5 inch cerberus and having bad oscillations 50-60% throttle and up. It's smooth on lower half of throttle. Running stock pids. Seems to be more apparent with higher pitched props as I'm curently using gatebreakers.

@heimdall4148 6 лет назад

Good video man and the thumbnail is awesome!

@KittFPV 6 лет назад

loved that uggghhhh wipe transition :P I terribly need to buckle down and just try tuning already. Stock BF pids have been plenty great, but I can definitely tell I'm missing out on the crispness. 2:52 OH THANK GOD!! okay, I'm a lot more excited about this PID tuning stuff now. **Pause break to put the lipos on the charger** ...fuck Drew, this video is PERFECT!!! Exactly what I needed!!! Even funnier when I first saw this I said "didn't Stingy already do this" which you mention, but your method is exactly what I wanted to do. Sometimes you just need a little reassurance you aren't going to do yourself more harm than good... 6:35 EXACTLY!!!!!! This is the point I get stuck on and just go fly instead. 10:03 whooosh :P hehehe 11:10 YES!!! big issue I have, you can actually tune that out!!! OMG

@Avilaalex91 6 лет назад

Great video we need more of this!!

@youeladamas7840 6 лет назад

nicely said the firmware has made it so much better then just last year anyone can just fly. i say donate to your firmware devs they have done magic and keep adding more. do a vid on that ppl think now its only hardware i say software is keeping the balance and opening the windows in to doorways

@sgtsimplycrispy7749 6 лет назад

THANK YOU! Bout to do a 3inch build, will be using this all the way. Also, new truck?

@policeswat64 6 лет назад

Great video brother, Thanks

@williamstewart1269 6 лет назад

Enjoy the sunshine in Ca, it's been grey here for weeks, turned white again last night, hope that you get the weather to rip. As to your criticism re the need for "perfect " tune...... if your technique flying was like a mosquito on crack it would be improbable but my observation on your vids is you do a fine job with either the tune or a masterful job with the editing. Say "hi" at the west coast for me, and don't forget the tacos and tamales!

@hateeternalmaver 6 лет назад

Oh my god, Drib, this title so what I had in mind for a while to ask you. As it gets colder I feel the space to fly gets smaller and smaller, so I REALLY wanted to ask you the following for a while: How do you tune for tight spaces, when you just don't have these long lines to ride along.....? I know that's not something an American is really gonna be used to, you know, because you guys have so much space, but of course you're gonna fly spots with little space to maneuver too, so, how do you adjust your tune for that? Cause I feel like when I switched from F1 to F4 it's now way more heavy and 'spacey', you know.... Guess I should start with D setpoint weight but maybe you have a certain way to go about adjusting for "tightness".? Love your Vids Drew, best wishes for you and your loved ones.

@dronereviewman9580 6 лет назад

Im not shure i know what im doing when it comes to tuning pids!?? So thanks for sharing im shure ill need this info when i do get a drone!!! If i ever get a good 1👍👍 o you are going to California wtf i have always wanted to go there just cost way to much for me!!! Hope u have a safe trip thanks for posting!!

@MystikSquash Год назад

We need a refresher

@jackhuncho9826 6 лет назад

can we have a gopro and a dvr view of your flowy flying style??!!

@TheMadmacs 6 лет назад

i wish there was a way betaflight could take a look at blackbox and suggest possibilities for noobs. i dont even know if i should switch on dynamic filter while i still have the notch filters on and biquad. or is dynamic filter just a good safety net for noobs who switch off notches and then bend a prop?

@LeDribFPV 6 лет назад

Turn on dynamic filter, switch to PT1 and turn off all notch filters. Check the motors for excessive heat as you tune :)

@KittFPV 6 лет назад

ahh, the good ol' autotune days. We'll see some interesting things in the near future I'm sure ;) ...in the meantime listen to dribbie, he's on point

@MrPnew1 5 лет назад

@5:40 Bobble. Yeah I saw that too :) No but seriously despite all the smart assed comments by some of these other guys, you Sir can fly and thanks for your video

@Misterlucas134 6 лет назад

I wish someone would show what poor PID values looks like. In this video yoiu talked about propwash but we were looking at you. I think that would help more.

@marremachine7440 6 лет назад

You are off to California and I am sitting here googeling what PID stands for.

@NZ-fo8tp 4 года назад

Proportional, Integral, Derivative gain. It's simply an algorithm that takes in sensor measurements, compares the actual state (i.e. angle, position or speed) to the reference(i.e. desired state) then calculates error. with the error it can calculate what input signal to give the drone should be. if you base the input on just a function of error then it is just a proportional controller, but if you include the rate of change of the error and the sum of the total error over time you can make a more robust controller. the PID values (or gains) represent how important each of these error terms are to stabilizing the system. finding these values is alittle bit of an art

@Director-M 4 года назад

The first winter I tried flying from inside my car I failsafed like 80feet away straight into concrete lmao, RIP GoPro 4. Never could trust my Taranis X9D + FRsky receivers with the RF environment within my car after that night lmao.

@itsjustchill93 6 лет назад

I've been getting terrible propwash and jello in my HD cam recently. It's on a wide X frame, not sure if that might be causing problems? Otherwise just down my P gains and up D gains?

@deishaw9567 4 года назад

BF 4.0 suggested to drop all the PID down by a third, is this still the case on 4.1?

@BadChizzle 6 лет назад

Also... flying LOS... I find the bigger the copter, the smoother it feels for me to fly. I’ve got one with 7 1/4” props that feels so sweet to fly. I Love it. One thing though... when that thing comes at you... you do get the heebie jeebies!!! Ha Ha ... ... it’s big!!!

@420xerro 6 лет назад

I got super bad vibes in forward flight can't seem to get rid of them on my six inch

@thatonebeone 6 лет назад

Do a (how to do eye liner) :)

@jbbolts 5 лет назад

one guy wears eyeliner... other wears a dress.... who knows what goes on behind closed doors smh

@RCOverKill 5 лет назад

@@jbbolts live, and let live boys. I don't wear Middle Eastern garb,or eyeliner. When I was a bit younger people didn't like the things I did either, but then you couldn't leave an anonymous comment, you had to say it to their face, the way it should be.

@RCOverKill 5 лет назад

I think this will help a lot. Do you have any tips for an 8 month FPV pilot, I think one problem with goggles, my fatsharks ipd is 59 to 69, I think I need 58ipd. Anyway I was more about flying tips. Anything is much appreciated.

@havoc_64 6 лет назад

So this 6 inch drone, what frame is it? Motors? Do you have a build list?

@creaturefpv 3 года назад

Mine is dli.g something very strange. It's kinda like prop wash but it's definitely my motors skipping or studderimg like they stop while in the middle of a role and hold for a millisecond and start and stop until it finishes its role . I have messed something up bad and I csnt figure out what it is. I was watching one of your videos on rates and was wanting to just straight up copy them and I didn't know that some of the settings were not what you were showing off and I think that they were just way off . Like your rates were right but like feed forward and stuff so I copied it all from what you showed on screen and I didn't Wright down the stock pids so now idk what or where to start at to fix it. Tidwell tried to help me some the other day but I think it just made it worse because not I'm having a bad prop wash problem on top of the shaky jerks . Swarm touched on it for a sec on one of his videos but not enough to help me out. Please help if you know what I'm talking about . Thx man and keep up the good work. And put out some trick tutorials too on putting together tricks to help with flow. Your really good at making everything so smooth . Total bad ass. Later.

@zacharybrasseaux4264 6 лет назад

Sorry old video might not get an answer but what 6 in frame were you rocking

@coryvenezia5530 6 лет назад

how do u change your pids through ur googles. I have the aomway commanders and can I do that?

@madyet5235 5 лет назад

can you do this vid again with the new version of bf!? that would be awesome!

@yalmadiable 4 года назад

We need your consultation in PID task for a drone we finished developing. We really want to make PID tuning to a level that acts very stable its high end UAV quadcopter I'm looking for you reply ASAP. Thanks

@charliedoubl 6 лет назад

hey everyone. I've been trying to figure this out but i can't seem to. I just built my whoop and I'm loving it, but whenever i move the throttle or even pitch forward, the whoop always yaws to the right. is anyone else having this problem? do you have any suggestions on how to fix it? any help is appreciated, thank you:)

@JoeMaxFpv 6 лет назад

QUESTION::: so if I'm doing a backwards drift and throttle out forward and experience bad sit down prop wash what axis or gain should I work on? So if falling backwards straight and I hit throttle and it prop washes what term should I begin with???

@nemoishouse 6 лет назад

Always good info Drew 👌

@4reazon331 5 лет назад

8:02 nice voice break

@stu22uk 6 лет назад

Drew, been watching your helpful content for about as long as I've been into FPV... Something slightly off topic - I see you do your own 3d printing, worthwhile for protective parts and mounts that I'm trying to get into. What printer did you go with and did you have to mod it any to print with TPU?

@badmintonavecpierremeunier7443 6 лет назад

great video , Thank you Drew !!

@cartertomasko8686 6 лет назад

THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS!!!!

@johnburnap 5 лет назад

I love you, man.

@andreasgusti7484 2 года назад

how about aetting rate profile?

@ianlu9962 4 года назад

does every drone use the same tune? or does it vary

@Juicy-J-FPV 6 лет назад

Thanks for the helpful info...

@BadChizzle 6 лет назад

Hello, Drew... If you could do a post about getting used to flying with the goggles on... and tips for acclimating to being under the hood, so to speak... that would be very helpful. I find myself in a situation where, I’ve got all the stuff I need to start fpv flying, but each time I drop the goggles, I want to pull them up again and see where and what my quad is doing. Ha Ha Thanks!

@dofdaupheus4506 6 лет назад

Thank you for this video

@pemtax557 6 лет назад

Very helpful video ... what part of CA are you going to? Have a great trip and enjoy our state!!

@djchazfpv2632 6 лет назад

Excellent..thanks for taking the time! Content request for early 2018. Custom 3D printing parts for my qwad start to finish and edit/export quality HD video for RU-vid! Mine suck so bad even my family can't watch them.

@jordanbass3210 6 лет назад

DJCHAZ FPV record in 4K 30 and then render it down to 1080p 60

@PeterKornum 6 лет назад

nice video, but the problem is the same with every pid video, you kinda have to "feel" the sticks honestly i can't spot the difference in the videoklips... YOU DO A GREAT JOB OF EXPLAINING, but it's so tricky to see... i doubt there is a better solution until you create the rotor riot PID sim. (damn i should have copyrighted that genius plan!) so a pid sim is now your "little" winter project!!! GOOD LUCK!

@imager09tube Год назад

Yes, everyone is just like a finger print, hand and fingers pinchers or thumbers speeds are different from pilot to pilot.

@HighTideFPV 6 лет назад

I love my six inch. I've had issues with tuning it. This shows I'm not the only one struggling with it lol. Are you going to do some long range flights now?

@hateeternalmaver 6 лет назад

Oh yeah and Betaflight OSD is just AWESOME! =)

@policeswat64 6 лет назад

Was it hard setting up those pid changes thru your radio and Goggles ?