How to play 21 against 22

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Learn how to play 21 against 22 (or any polyrhythm). It's not only possible, but it's not as difficult as you might think. In this video, we look at a few ways to play polyrhythms -- including Jacob Collier's famous 21:22 -- as well as some musical applications and benefits of practicing these rhythms.
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@ShawnCrowder 5 лет назад

Looks like Adam Neely and I had the same idea this week. I shot this last weekend before seeing his video. Editing/graphics/gummies took forever, so just uploading now. But funny to see similarities & differences, almost down to the same jokes... I guess playing in bands together for 10 years will do that. Enjoy this drummer's perspective on the subject!

@lukec1471 5 лет назад

Best RU-vid couple

@somerandomdudeable 5 лет назад

You even use the same fonts

@KevinOMalleyisonlysmallreally 5 лет назад

Honestly, I love Adams videos but this was a really really excellent video and more that just complimenting Adam's it gave a really good insight into the topic

@spacebiggles 5 лет назад

Yall got the same profile picture and edit your videos the same way. I'm on to you sungazer punks. This isn't a coincidence it's a gosh darn dang sundangledgazer conspiracy. You boys are in cahoots and the general public knows it.

@OnlyARide 5 лет назад

You two make a great tuplet :)

@AdamNeely 5 лет назад

damn dude. this is so good! EDIT: to people saying that our RU-vid videos are similar...its almost as if we lived together for 5 years and have played together for over a decade. I've learned a lot from Shawn, and gleefully steal from him at every opportunity I can.

@Corporate_Desecration 5 лет назад

Sorry, Adam. I’m leaving you for your bandmate💔

@AdamNeely 5 лет назад

Sawyer Smith his drumming and RU-vid game is too strong.

@Corporate_Desecration 5 лет назад

Don’t worry, I’ll still come back for occasional late night flings with your videos

@alessandrocavallaro4160 5 лет назад

Better than yours no offense

@Corporate_Desecration 5 лет назад

Alessandro Cavallaro Alright lets take a step back now

@EdgeOspina 4 года назад

Content: 10/10 Explanation: 10/10 Skills: 10/10 Notes: 21/22

@kalliboymusic 4 года назад

Nice joke

@artemlyubchenko3022 3 года назад

More like 22/21.

@honsebingus6426 3 года назад

And a Ben levin and justice cow

@pwhybrismusic 2 года назад

Well done man, you made me laugh out loud alone in front of my computer, which very rarely happens! :D

@kemaldenizercan3726 5 лет назад

99 against 100 sounds like my begginer drummer friend trying to play fast singles

@asmodeus9075 5 лет назад

I don't even play drums but once i played 24 against 79. I was drunk also. How about that?

@QuillPGall 5 лет назад

asmo deus proof?

@maxmillman9477 4 года назад

Since we've re-classified this type of playing as advanced polyrhythms, your friend is a virtuoso now!

@Nyuu3 5 лет назад

The timing of the upload just looks like you saw a bassist talk about rhythm and went "Oh, that's adorable".

@No-pm4ss 5 лет назад

Nyuu3 I laughed for too long at this

@bobobrien8968 5 лет назад

Anki Be nice. Bassists are people too.

@formfaktor 4 года назад

OMG. best comment. :)

@kirbymusicschool4827 3 года назад

Bob o'Brien no we’re not!

@Sabercon 3 года назад

im a bassist myself and i find this funny

@nwinches 5 лет назад

I can't wait for Sungazer Vol 3 with its 99:100 polyrhythm and Ben Levin M&M solo

@lukesmusic317 5 лет назад

I need a Ben Levin M&M composition now.

@benlevin6275 5 лет назад

Would you care for a budget version

@ishandave3542 5 лет назад

Here are a few video ideas for you 1. Metric modulation 2.Rhythmic displacements 3.Tuplet based swings 4.Microrhythms 5.Indian rhythmic compositions(Tihaia , Korvais etc)

@DiePixelkrieger 5 лет назад

Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes

@noslowerdna 5 лет назад

And when you bend the pitch, but adjust the tempo in the other direction.

@rich1051414 5 лет назад

@@noslowerdna Metal does this quite often. The pitch bends down, the tempo speeds up.

@parkerpurciful7676 5 лет назад

The third way to conceptualize 21:22 (and the ending 99:100 especially) sounds a lot like phasing

@ShawnCrowder 5 лет назад

yep! it's basically the same thing.

@YahualiMusic 5 лет назад

Came here to say this. On a big enough scale, you're basically Steve Reich'ing it... 😁

@HimanXK 5 лет назад

That groove on the ride is perfect for Sungazer

@diegocerecero 5 лет назад

Aidan Xavier actually waiting a song with that beat

@BlindManBert 4 года назад

Agree. Without hearing the keyboard phrases which inspired the ride polyrhythm, you can see it feels not at all forced or odd, but an added subtle texture on the drum. Not in your face solo. Not filigree (great work). I would use the term texture to describe the new option on the rhythmic palette of the piece. I may seek out the full track at some point, but I get the idea.

@leaguemaskthaamumugod7552 5 лет назад

I was so ready for this to be an Adam Neely rip and I’m so glad it’s not. Excellent video - currently living the percussionist’s wet dream of two different polyrhythm videos in one week

@manaswimishra17 5 лет назад

Since this is an adam neely for drums kind of channel, you need some audio tags saying ... "Drums!" at the end.

@_grigoryta 5 лет назад

More like "Drum!", since "BASS!" is mainly a call to act

@popebaad6015 5 лет назад

*BEATS!*

@justawatchin2 5 лет назад

"DONK"

@Monica-br8pi 5 лет назад

A vocoded snare drum.

@DonCYHaute 5 лет назад

I think "Go music!" is already perfect.

@jovianarsenic6893 5 лет назад

I rate this 99/100

@maltebechtold6488 5 лет назад

or 100/99?

@jclayworthjc 4 года назад

So whenever my unison strokes become sloppy and turn into a single stroke roll I need to practice more but whenever Jacob Collier does it its musical genius...

@sambkingmusic 5 лет назад

YES to Shawn Crowder making this kind of content!

@major7thsharp11 5 лет назад

Child custody ended with Adam Neely Now Shawn Crowder is my RU-vid dad

@SignalsMusicStudio 5 лет назад

This is an amazing video, thank you and excellent work!

@eglathren 3 года назад

Your video was what helped me (a non musician/amateur singer) manage to do a 3:4 polyrhythm with finger snapping hahaha thank you, your channel is really cool!

@ACMusicTheory 5 лет назад

Missed an opportunity by not making the video 21:22 long I still subbed though

@prarobinson 5 лет назад

The groove you came up with (@9:40) is great! Very musical. 👍

@isaacthecorncob 4 года назад

Agree completely. It's basically a much more complex drunk/Dilla beat. (I think I spelled "Dilla" right.) I also really liked the ostinato he did, too. Also, when I liked your comment it went from 21 to 22. That was too perfect

@mikebliss3153 5 лет назад

I actually really enjoy you aping Adam's style and giving it your own subtle spin. Very nice continuity between the two channels.

@BigDaddyWes 5 лет назад

It was accidental. He said he shot the video last weekend before he saw Adam's.

@mikebliss3153 5 лет назад

@@BigDaddyWes Serendipitous, then. They should still continue it.

@stonemagagna 4 года назад

What I love about your teaching is that you teach in concepts rather than just teaching directly about something. I think that’s what sets you apart so much from other educators.

@8varium5 5 лет назад

I'm sensing a trend here.

@Spenjira 4 года назад

poly metrics and polyrhythmics are 2 different things. many people can play straight metrics against eachother. not many can play actual involved rhythms against eachother without alot of practice. great vid!

@TheParadiseParadox 4 года назад

i think it's important to mention the guy from mexico city playing 7 against 11 at 7:11 on 7/11 outside a 7-11

@MrMuppet1970 5 лет назад

Interesting approach for polyrhytms, I have been multiplying the factors, then hitting on them until I reach the product. Once i get a feel for the rhythm , i can increase the speed.

@ijimedia 5 лет назад

Ben Levin is basically clickbait you shoulda put him in the thumbnail

@zacredington4776 5 лет назад

I think the 21 22 grooves you played were fucking awesome. Seriously. I want this shit in music. Like actual songs I can listen to.

@joshuajosiahcolumbus 5 лет назад

I was going to say that people need stop making videos on this but then I realized how valuable each unique perspective is and how it only really helps me gain a better understanding of the concepts to see everybody’s take on it. Good stuff man.

@MrEdUrAt 5 лет назад

1 minute in and I already love this video style. You earned a sub!

@theghostofyoutube5921 5 лет назад

Love your content and drumming so much, Shawn! You're a huge inspiration to me!

@kubilay1839 5 лет назад

Great video shawn. Thank you for making this awesome video.

@jaune4720 5 лет назад

that's a really good video!! musically speaking, but also entertaining, well produced, well explained. congrats!!!

@bobobrien8968 5 лет назад

I’ve been trying to get a better grip on timing as a basic guitarist. Never cared much for most of my 68 years. Your awesome videos was like an epiphany to me. Thank you. Btw, loved Zappa when I first heard him in the 70s. Wish he was still with us but his music, black pages and all, always will be.

@wolfetteplays8894 Год назад

He still is, hologram concerts and unreleased demos are keeping his dream alive

@jonnyroxx7172 5 лет назад

I absolutely love your videos. You do a really great job of showing the actual process of learning music.

@gabrielwareing 5 лет назад

This is awesome, I'd love to see more of this kind of content

@musicbyclay4919 4 года назад

I love how you explain these cool rhythmic ideas!! Very cool video!!👍👍👍

@maxadrums 5 лет назад

Shawn. You're absolutely fantastic. Talk about a killer video with fantastic production from a good dude. Now I need to check out more of your stuff. If you choose to become active on this platform with content like this, you'll go FLYING.

@TheJma945 5 лет назад

This is brilliant! I love it. Good stuff, and I'll have to check out your channel in the future

@Skelletor87 5 лет назад

Ever since i found out about Sungazer i cant stop listening. You are truly an awesome inspiration to practice my techniques and get my chops up!

@BeatNavMetronome 5 лет назад

Amazing Video Shawn, keep it up!!

@arcadedomination8006 5 лет назад

Great vid Shawn! You can really see you and Adam influence eachother in terms of editing and explaining.

@basilschreyer8807 5 лет назад

I love that kind of content! I really enjoy the hard work you put into those videos! It would be awesome if you would keep on doing those.

@TiempoNegro 5 лет назад

this video is GREAT thank you ♥ especially becouse i've been looking into this theme A LOT this last couple of months

@Hontonoki 5 лет назад

this is amazing. your effort and production value should earn you well over a million subs! how you're at 10k is beyond me. awesome job, liked and subscribed

@ErinWi 5 лет назад

You don't need to make an Adam Neely for drums channel. You're rocking your own thing and I hope you keep it up.

@marcelo_luz 5 лет назад

I must do a comment! For 2 reasons first of course you did a perfect balance video between emphaty and teaching and secondly by consequence you won a new subscriber. Hope as soon as possible that your channel raise fast! Thanks!

@ZuriekJT 5 лет назад

The way you presented with candy and the drum sticks was quite brilliant. Very well done.

@BigPhi84 5 лет назад

Well-explained, excellently produced, informative, non-pretentious video! You have gained a subscriber and fan! Cheers from Savannah! 👍👍🍻

@bertimel3005 5 лет назад

Really nice video! Keep up the good work! :)

@blackie126 5 лет назад

Welp, I saw the thumbnail, saw the channel picture, then clicked. I was curious, as I knew Adam’s channel well (been following for years). I then saw the Sungazer link in the desc and realized you were his bandmate! Then, Adam’s comment cleared it up further. I’m so glad I clicked, because now I get my music theory fill twice as much now, with content just as good! Well done Shawn! You gained a new sub, this video was fantastic!

@insertname8889 5 лет назад

Your first video I've ever seen, great job man, damn, i love your music too!

@nicosan3301 5 лет назад

so cool that both adam and you talk about this stuff, so I can understand sungazer's songs

@pierreg8562 5 лет назад

your 21/22 rhythm in the 9min is actually awesome

@baptistewxpolpodcast3339 5 лет назад

The editing on this is glorious !

@nirke_ 5 лет назад

This was awesome!

@ben9613 5 лет назад

Great video! I learned a lot

@halflearned2190 5 лет назад

Really cool video, Shawn. Subbed.

@CAKmusic 5 лет назад

It's cool seeing videos like this crop up.....I was experimenting with similar concepts over a decade ago. Even compiled a long list of one-level nested tuplets. I think there is a strong future in music with "fragmented" durations, but as always there will have to be commonly used tropes (cliches) to become culturally significant on a larger scale

@hanny9532 5 лет назад

This is fantastic, thank you for this

@samgentle 5 лет назад

Oh man this is so good. That last version of 21:22 was right on the edge of my rhythmic comprehension, like I could tell there was a groove but couldn't quite feel it.

@Varra1 5 лет назад

i love the style of the video!

@hadlerleco1 4 года назад

You are freaking great man. Thank you for the videos.

@Servando6abe 5 лет назад

wow, very interesting approach, thank you shawn.

@essencelove9130 3 года назад

You are awesome! Thank for this amazing video! It helped me a lot.

@johnknight9150 3 года назад

That beat around the ten minute mark sounded more musical with the click, and actually provided a context, rather than just sounding like awkward flams or something.

@TheCommentator353 4 года назад

This channel needs more subscribers. So many more

@percusswords 4 года назад

Well explained, and a solid example of balancing music with music theory

@iancontreras7688 4 года назад

....that accent ride shit is so easy to think of, but absolutely killer to watch you execute it. Wonderful vid, my friend.

@issussov 5 лет назад

Pretty cool video! Cheerz :)

@ShallieDragon 5 лет назад

Dude this was fantastic. It's given me a much better appreciation of how complex rhythm can be. I'm feeling pretty inspired right now. Also, the quality of your videos is on-point.

@asmodeus9075 5 лет назад

Man if you like this listen to some tool. If you're not into that kind of music give it a listen anyway, because the drummer is known for putting complex polyrythyms and syncopation that still sound organic and natural. Try with Triad

@ShallieDragon 5 лет назад

@@asmodeus9075 I've been an avid Tool fan for years. They're pretty amazing.

@Leonlion0305 5 лет назад

this video just remind me of left turn lane when there are 1 or 2 cars ahead of me and had their signal light on, but due to turn on at a slightly off time and each car model probably flicker at different rate so it looks like they are going in and out of phase. and 2 cars plus mine is in triplet form lol, sometimes I thought of it as two metronome playing at different bpm

@BikRen 3 года назад

Good job!👍🏼

@neodental7312 5 лет назад

Holy shitbags. You're killing it. Great demo! Sounds so cool. Thank you. Steve.

@TheRealTeebz 2 года назад

Great video. During your play of the 21 against 22 I could hear a big ole trombone or something brassy kinda like that blasting thru. yeah daddiooo.

@gxexrxmxaxnx 5 лет назад

I love your drumming, especially in Electro. Cheers!

@oliverpope4915 5 лет назад

Holy shit Shawn I'm freaking out. This is so cool and has my heart doing polyrhythms out of sheer excitement. Thank you so much, I love this kind of thorough explanation. Thank you. Thank you.

@traderjoestar 5 лет назад

Nice stuff man. I'd love to hear about your practice routine, as a drummer whos into similar stuff as you but not at your level yet obviously. Stuff like what you do to keep your hands in shape, coordination stuff, and bass drum technique, drummers to transcribe. Okay I guess ill go practice now

@DarthCalculus 5 лет назад

Great video!

@hamishmac100 4 года назад

Love it ❤️ thank you

@marselmusic 5 лет назад

nice to see a drummers view on this... its cool to see the drummer and bassist give differne vies on this!

@skaynekurtis 4 года назад

...stumbled upon this...couldn't subscribe to Shawn's channel fast enough... brain bomb material...so kindly broken down... epic Mike Mangini photage!

@TheYeqy 5 лет назад

God damn man! 😀 Just the sheer effort of playing all of this 😂😂😂 mad props! 🙌

@med_pink 5 лет назад

This is amazing, this guy needs like 1 more million subs

@miki_the_little198 Год назад

For me the best way of doing polyrhythms is by spreading them across multiple instruments, each playing different subdivisions, and drums being the instrument which merges these clashing parts together

@timolsen3116 5 лет назад

Hey Shawn--awesome! Composite rhythm is where it's at!

@gabrielladias420 5 лет назад

I was going to suggest playing whatever ratio your like to dislike was but it's honestly too much at this point. loved this!

@Attilargh 5 лет назад

I'm trying to learn the guitar, what on earth am I doing here?

@BigDaddyWes 5 лет назад

Getting in way over your head xD

@Fingeroo 5 лет назад

As a small icon, you look like Chris Pratt

@zolin6840 5 лет назад

but the beginning seemed so slow and frustrating

@bakedspade 5 лет назад

Lawrence Rhodes hahaha man does

@DanielGonzalezC 5 лет назад

It'll help keep you grounded.

@andrewnicorn 5 лет назад

This video is actually really accessible and informational for something that seems pretty high faluting. I'm a dumb guitar player and I learned a lot.

@eddieavakian 5 лет назад

Crazy shit. Love it!

@WafenesssMagussska 5 лет назад

I watched this video up to the moment you said about sungazer, noticed you're in a band with Adam and was like dayuuum goood n subscribed instantly

@AlistairCooperMusic 4 года назад

That first musical example is a phat beat! Super nice!

@Toxoplasmosis679 3 года назад

I love the red dot next to Rec is blinking in time

@rallokkcaz 5 лет назад

Holy FUCK, that slower drum beat you came up with towards end is so sick. Subscribed and swoon.

@RipzOnNubes 5 лет назад

Hello I’m your friendly neighborhood saxophone player! I’ve been watching Adam Neely for a while now and now I’m subbed to you (whether or not you make an AN but drums channel). Keep up the good work and keep inspiring younger musicians!

@stclairmusicuk 5 лет назад

See Shawn Crowder teaching Shawn Crowder = Instant subscribe

@aaronbones4290 3 года назад

that first example where you filled the gaps with 16th note double kicks. It's ideal for a prog deathcore outro in a breakdown form.

@erbihc1781 5 лет назад

This wankery is going so far that the music genre that will spawn in response will be in 1 : 1

@asmodeus9075 5 лет назад

I think there are some types of eletronic music which uses that. Like hardcore.

@erbihc1781 5 лет назад

@@asmodeus9075 dang no ! you are unfair^^ hardcore is not that simple, just listen to Sick Of it All or Counterparts

@erbihc1781 5 лет назад

@@asmodeus9075 ohh sorry I just learnt there is a electronic genre also called hardcore !! that's weird

@asmodeus9075 5 лет назад

@@erbihc1781 i mean, its not alwaya technically 1:1 but sometimes it gives me that feel. Even our heartbeats are more complicate than that XD

@asmodeus9075 5 лет назад

Also talking about wankery vs minimalism. There is a composer that has a piece that consists of silence. He just sits there in silence for some time. It may sound stupid but as an idea it is extremely powerful. Just like everything. A dance between sound and silence, light and darkness, existance and non-existance. I love to talk about these things expecially on psychedelics lol

@matthewdeakin9939 5 лет назад

Now this was INTENSE

@Booskop. 2 года назад

I think Jacob started out with a 7͏:11 polyrhythm and subdivided the 7's into triplets and the 11's into double time. So it's like doing 7:͏11 but with a nested 3:͏2 or smth like that.