How To Play Against 3-Bets In And Out Of Position 

Thanks for the feedback Ronald! You'll be happy to know that this is a recording from a couple months ago and Ryan has since improved his process tremendously. Watch out for future Ryan videos and you'll notice the difference. Also, you may want to check out Ryan's article on facing 3-bets here: www.upswingpoker.com/vs-3-bet-pre-flop-position-strategy-revealed/

AWESOME! Great to know that you guys keep getting better. Cheers!

Equity is the % of possible boards that will give you the best hand, which isn't precisely the same as "you will win x% of pots" (because the best hand doesn't always win), but it's a lot closer to that than "your part of a pot".

I always found Dougs and others notion regarding the combinatorics of having an Ace rag etc. while ruling out the likelihood of your opponent having an ace a little misleading. As it is something you should consider, getting attached to this idea can be sometimes harmful to your play. -The chances of them having an ace is actually fairly good, considering they are showing strength -If you get over your head and they do have a better ace or a pair, you are a huge underdog -If an ace hits on the flop (1/15 times) you will most likely get stacked in a preflop 4-bet raised pot. -It's always a possibility that you both go to showdown with ace high I guess when 4-betting you really, really, REALLY have to know your man. Also, a lot of what I said here depends on how deep the stacks are. Usually in most regular tournaments they aren't that deep in the middle stages.

Mohammed Nuseibah correct! I was thinking the same thing. Pretty sure Ryan made a mistake in the video lol the most basic thing

yes you are...8+8+1.5 (Blinds) = 17.5

OK, thank you for the elaboration! I can't remember who said it, but he had his own poker school etc. He said when he broke down 100,000+ hands he had determined that he was DOWN money with 65s, but was up with premium hands like KK. When he decided to stop 3-betting with 65s, he found that his losses were smaller with 65, but his profits had greatly diminished with hands like KK, giving him a weaker profit overall.

That is something that I believed but never had anything to back it. I figured if you play tighter your losses with your weaker holdings would diminish but so would your win, good to see somebody actually did the research and put it out there.

I am Australian and don't understand a thing. Horrible

Yea that’s the problem with these equity calls,like AJo does better against this 3 bet range than KQs but the latter is more playable and will realize its equity more often,he does mention this though

you forgot adding in the amount we call to complete the pot (IE 8-2.5, which is 5.5). Ryan says 17.5 then types in 17, because he's an idiot :P

The main program Ryan used in this video is Equilab, which is free and can be downloaded at: www.pokerstrategy.com/poker-software-tools/equilab-holdem/ The goal is not to memorize the exact ranges or equity numbers, but to look at the difference between absolute equity of various hands vs. various ranges, and use that information to figure out WHY some hands make better calls (or 4 bets) than others. If you take nothing away from this video other than the rules about which hands are more likely to realize equity at 14:50 , you will have a great starting point for constructing your strategy facing 3bets. Ryan's example of Q9s having significantly more equity than K9s, at least when our opponent 3bets AK but not AQ, is a really good lesson but the actual hands are not very important. The useful conclusion that you can draw from this is that hands which are dominated by a significant portion of our opponents range will be worse calls than those which are more likely to have 2 live cards. This is even before considering equity realization or reverse implied odds. If you are looking to memorize some ranges, I find memorizing the weakest hands in each category of a range to be easier than memorizing the whole range. For example, I find it much easier to think about a range of 66+ pairs, A5s, A8s+ suited aces, all suited hands with two cards higher than a nine, 76s+ suited connectors, and the 4 strongest offsuit hands, than I do to think about a range of 66+, A8s+, A5s, K9s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, AJ+, KQ. Like most things in poker, once you have played and/or studied enough to not be an absolute beginner, it is much more useful to understand how and why we make our decisions, rather than being told what decision we should make in a given 3bet spot. Trying to memorize specific answers will be more likely to give you a headache than improve your game. Learning how to figure these spots out for yourself, and putting in the time to solve a few scenarios on your own (no software needed, pen and paper can accomplish just as much with some high school level math and a few hours of free time), will be much more productive, and much more profitable. Good Luck!

SkillGame hey thanks a lot, I appreciate your analysis of the analysis and as long as I've been playing poker, there's always stuff for me to learn, so again, thank you, that was a nicely laid out reply, I appreciate you taking the time to help.

+ROCKY BULLSHITE my pleasure bro. I love discussing things with people that share my passion for this game.

SkillGame online poker is illegal in Louisiana so I'll play free tournaments on PokerStars or something to keep my game fresh in between live cash games, holla at me if you ever want to play some heads up online. I would play cash but you'd have to come to Louisiana lol

"Ryan's example of Q9s having significantly more equity than K9s, at least when our opponent 3bets AK but not AQ, is a really good lesson but the actual hands are not very important. The useful conclusion that you can draw from this is that hands which are dominated by a significant portion of our opponents range will be worse calls than those which are more likely to have 2 live cards. This is even before considering equity realization or reverse implied odds." real good point to make. counter intuitive but it's true

lee cook its more fun when you win

lee cook losing must be really fun to you brah

id like to know how they will profit by this information. Is this for online play. I play live and most of the live donks are only 3 betting AA and KK. I don't get it

what about non donks?

you make a read (range) on your opponent. I play by feel. I guess that's why I should realize all the technical isn't for me. its the wild west at the commerce.

Is a written strategy on paper allowed?

adjust the speed in the settings at .75 he sounds normal

Horrible dribble

Try captions?