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How to play "out" like Scofield and Scott Henderson 

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A lesson about how to develop an outside sound like John Scofield and Scott Henderson on the guitars.
The concept has to do with using 4 arpeggios that come from the H/W diminished scale over a dominant chord.
On an A7 chord the 4 arpeggios are:
A with a #2 (A C C# E)
C With a #2 (C D# E G)
Eb with a #2 (Eb Gb G Bb)
F# with a #2 (F# G Bb C#)
Remember that those starting points spell an A Dim7 chord
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Комментарии : 149   
@MrAcollett
@MrAcollett 10 дней назад
I have been chasing that sound for thirty years, bless you.
@Fitzliputzli23
@Fitzliputzli23 Год назад
Seriously, guys, with this video we finally enter "real deal territory". It is like the recipe of a magic potion that may only be passed from one druid to another. Thanks for sharing it with us regular Joes!
@omko73
@omko73 3 месяца назад
This makes scofield the Obelix of guitar?
@user-ec6ix9ck2k
@user-ec6ix9ck2k Год назад
This lesson is GOLD!
@johnhahn1877
@johnhahn1877 Год назад
Great stuff Dani! Ive not seen this vibe explained like this before. Brilliant. Jazz cats are going to put out a hit on you for letting their mystery mojo out of the bag😅.
@winstonsmith8240
@winstonsmith8240 Год назад
Cracking. I know the diminished scale pretty well, but it often sounds like, well, the diminished scale. This takes it to a new level. Quite frankly...brilliant. Well done, and THANK YOU! ❤
@boogjii
@boogjii Год назад
this is the best lesson i’ve ever had. exactly what ive been looking for thank you !
@MauriceBierhuizen
@MauriceBierhuizen Год назад
How on earth could it be that I've been listening to Henderson and Scofield for 30 years, and never figured this out.... Hahahaa. This must be some secret jewel only shared between the greatest players on earth 🤣Thanks Dani, I know what to practice next couple of weeks
@marbinmusic
@marbinmusic Год назад
Hehe you’re welcome man. Check out more vids on the channel
@winstonsmith8240
@winstonsmith8240 Год назад
Me too! Same. Hope it's going well. It's now at the top of my 'to do' lists. Unbelievable.
@basgerritsen9669
@basgerritsen9669 Год назад
Another thing to consider is when Scofield is playing "outside" sounds, it's very often in order to "suggest" a different chord than the one that's being played, he's basically substituting another chord over the changes. It's not random most of the time, he can really outline some different chords. E.g. let's imagine he's playing a b-flat blues, when he plays a lick using a derivative of the b-flat diminished scale over the 4 chord or a associated chord, he's outlining the d# dim chord that's often subbed in after the second 4-1 change in a jazz blues. This is a really interesting thing to experiment with: try and outline a chord that's related to, but different from the one that's actually being played and you'll get some really cool outside tones that will still sound "right" to most people's ears.
@marbinmusic
@marbinmusic Год назад
Yup basically what this is about. Just finding those subs in the diminished scale
@stevengrinold7631
@stevengrinold7631 2 года назад
Awesome as always Dani! Thanks!
@julianodiniz7341
@julianodiniz7341 Год назад
Great lesson!!!! you open my mind!
@nakoshoko1
@nakoshoko1 2 года назад
Thanks for that lesson! Your playing is great!
@MrYevis
@MrYevis 2 года назад
Thank you Dani this is wonderfull. Love your tips !
@electromatic2014
@electromatic2014 2 года назад
I'm out of words, just amazing, thanks for sharing!
@kevinmunoz2004
@kevinmunoz2004 10 месяцев назад
Subscribed! Love the vibe and explanation of your lesson
@LeviClay
@LeviClay 3 года назад
killing it as always man
@omarpervaiz
@omarpervaiz Год назад
Awesome! I've been asking jazz friends for something like this for rock players for years now. You nailed it! Tabs to go with it would make this a great go transition to jazz fusion lesson.
@Guitarmfig
@Guitarmfig 2 года назад
Excellent lesson, thank you
@stevengrinold3203
@stevengrinold3203 2 года назад
Awesome Dani! Thanks for this
@MrMjp58
@MrMjp58 4 месяца назад
A superb explanation. The tone of the guitar is exquisite.
@markjacksonmusic21
@markjacksonmusic21 Год назад
Amazing man! Thank you for this. So simple!
@marianovico4933
@marianovico4933 3 года назад
Your lessons are very good, so is your playing and sound,no speed for speed and meaningless notes but excellent choice of notes in the best instrument and best style ever...(guitar and jazz-rock fusion, all the best buddy and greetings from Havana Cuba.
@triclone123
@triclone123 Год назад
So good! Thank you!
@mikekohary1075
@mikekohary1075 2 года назад
Damn, that's genius. I'm gonna practice that right away - thank you!
@JOVO1971
@JOVO1971 Год назад
Very cool idea, thank you!
@MalcaratMartinez
@MalcaratMartinez 2 месяца назад
THANK YOU !!!!...... first guy I see speaking english to us illiterate blues / rock players :). This is GOLD !!
@RonaldoAguiar
@RonaldoAguiar 2 года назад
Great lesson! Thanks a lot!
@PhillFest
@PhillFest 11 месяцев назад
Fantastic and well explained. Been toying with diminished triads in my playing for years, but this was SO obvious! Love it! Thx!
@marbinmusic
@marbinmusic 11 месяцев назад
Glad it was helpful!
@gabrielkeam6106
@gabrielkeam6106 2 года назад
don't forget you can play whole tone and outline augmented arpeggios off the fifth which can move in whole steps for a cool effect
@winstonsmith8240
@winstonsmith8240 Год назад
I'm just going to write that down. Thanks. 👍
@bitcoinman9202
@bitcoinman9202 Год назад
Oh ya? I will redo test it
@jazznerd3823
@jazznerd3823 Год назад
Great lesson, man.
@garthirving1056
@garthirving1056 Год назад
Excellent lesson...
@chrisbrennan9173
@chrisbrennan9173 Месяц назад
this will be added to my repa trau. thank you!
@user-ph8ur4mv1n
@user-ph8ur4mv1n 9 месяцев назад
Daaaaaummmmm that is most killer lesson its gorgeous mamma mi a!!!!!!
@guitarleejonshon4025
@guitarleejonshon4025 2 года назад
Very thx for the tips!!, I love that Mr Henderson's way. \m/
@7wheels
@7wheels 2 года назад
Thank you so much. 🎸🎶
@bnpapp
@bnpapp 2 года назад
I will be sending a contribution to your site... Enough for a fine meal and a craft beer or wine. Thanks again.. Carve on maestro
@praxitelisnikolaou9764
@praxitelisnikolaou9764 Год назад
Awsome stuff!
@PedroSilvaMusic
@PedroSilvaMusic Год назад
Great job!!!!
@scallopedshredify
@scallopedshredify 2 года назад
Too damn good thanks for another great lesson! Love Marbin
@gregchambers6100
@gregchambers6100 Год назад
That's so freaking cool.
@wolfgangcordsen3430
@wolfgangcordsen3430 2 года назад
Hey very nice lesson mate!
@hervemerliet
@hervemerliet Год назад
RU-vid needs more vidéos like this one. Thanks a lot.
@marbinmusic
@marbinmusic Год назад
More to come!
@zziemka
@zziemka 6 месяцев назад
best guitar solo lesson ever seen ;)
@user-qi2zt8nr9u
@user-qi2zt8nr9u 10 месяцев назад
Cool! Thanks!
@kevinmunoz2004
@kevinmunoz2004 10 месяцев назад
I kind of understand , will definitely be studying music theory to be able to fully understand the concept . Would love to be able to add this to my playing
@bnpapp
@bnpapp 2 года назад
Thanks amigao! Your lesson has created great pivotal point in my playing.... My taste and view for the guitars future is this.. Sco (red shirt Miles) meets ZzTop meets Pat Metheny meets Hendrix. (throw in the Dan too) and Danny you have made me a better Sco and Metheny inspired player thanks to those brilliant lessons of your
@pablouuuu
@pablouuuu 3 года назад
Killer sounds!!!
@miguecast
@miguecast 8 месяцев назад
Thanks, man!
@fernandoflores4907
@fernandoflores4907 3 года назад
Daaaaamn!! 🔥❤️
@felipeeyer4481
@felipeeyer4481 Год назад
Thank you!
@dominicdemercurio7933
@dominicdemercurio7933 Год назад
Brother THANK YOU!
@agent_o_range
@agent_o_range Год назад
That’s a sweet looking guitar!
@Bigmouthstrikes82
@Bigmouthstrikes82 2 месяца назад
THANK YOU
@deaconfuse3850
@deaconfuse3850 3 года назад
Awesome lesson, Jimmy Herring seems to do that a lot too. It is one of the most badass sounds to me for some reason.
@randyhetlage9202
@randyhetlage9202 2 года назад
all git guys do it
@jakollee
@jakollee 2 года назад
Yeah, I love the sound of the "outside" playing too and I'm a big Jimmy Herring fan! Another great one to check out is Shawn Tubbs - the licks he plays are crazy sounding but somehow they work!!!
@jamesfarrington9030
@jamesfarrington9030 Год назад
You have a very distinct sound coming out of that Strat. Nice phrasing, too.
@superflysoulbrother
@superflysoulbrother Год назад
Can't wait to take this to the woodshed!
@joelgueller2979
@joelgueller2979 3 месяца назад
hi Dave great information toda rabba
@benjasep66
@benjasep66 8 месяцев назад
muy buena explicación, necesitaba ver este video, :), y además muy genial la Marbin, saludos desde Chilee
@aurimasgalvelis
@aurimasgalvelis Год назад
This is cheat code! AMAZING!
@Swizzenator
@Swizzenator 10 месяцев назад
SICK
@leifkeane
@leifkeane 10 месяцев назад
I want me some of that!!!
@BrianKlobyGuitar
@BrianKlobyGuitar 2 года назад
Most awesome
@falschnehmung
@falschnehmung Год назад
triple gold ... ! Tnx !!! 5 THUMPS UP !
@antonioberuff5033
@antonioberuff5033 Год назад
Nice
@marcusgandier3913
@marcusgandier3913 10 месяцев назад
nice
@jaroneaton8023
@jaroneaton8023 Год назад
Yes, yes and yes!!
@Cordmichael
@Cordmichael 2 года назад
How do you associate the sound and the interval?Any practice suggestion to master that? Thank You.
@victoza9232
@victoza9232 4 месяца назад
0:28, 0:32 Stank face is a must to master outside playing. I think that, for those not entirely familiar with outside playing (but who have mastered stank face), it would have been more helpful to have provided a chordal accompaniment to illustrate how particular note choices against certain chords create the outside sound.
@stringtheoryx
@stringtheoryx 2 дня назад
Really nice concept and presentation! You get a very good 'transparent overdrive' sound that's appropriate for what you're playing. Can I ask how you recorded that?
@wantfnjones
@wantfnjones 5 месяцев назад
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯
@danqodusk8140
@danqodusk8140 Год назад
Pretty cool. I've never heard anyone refer to a flat3/ minor third as a sharp 2nd.
@14369164
@14369164 2 месяца назад
nor I in this context but valid all the same,great lesson!
@tboyz1
@tboyz1 4 месяца назад
#2 🥰
@waynegram8907
@waynegram8907 2 года назад
Make more Scott Henderson Out of key notes lessons
@sylwestersosniak220
@sylwestersosniak220 Год назад
♥♥♥
@cutronixxx
@cutronixxx Год назад
?!?!?!? 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮 You made it so much simpler to approach. This and your gypsy jazz arpeggio lesson. THANK YOU. Thank you for all the other stuff too. Yikes
@marbinmusic
@marbinmusic Год назад
You are welcome. Tell your friends
@cutronixxx
@cutronixxx Год назад
@@marbinmusicDamn right, I did.
@cutronixxx
@cutronixxx Год назад
@@marbinmusic Do you give virtual lessons?
@marbinmusic
@marbinmusic Год назад
@@cutronixxx sure email me at danihrabin@gmail.com
@jbowerman50
@jbowerman50 Год назад
I watched Scott Henderson explain this, and he made it Very complicated. But I get it now , a triad on each note of the dim with a #9 added
@davidsmithweck2412
@davidsmithweck2412 10 месяцев назад
Can I do this with a capo? ha ha just kidding!! This is solid gold!! Thank you for this!
@VintageBassArchive
@VintageBassArchive Год назад
ive been noodling cuz i forget to bend!!! yikes. now i wont screw up my second note when i try and do gypsy jazz.. thanks to seeing you bend just now EDIT: i play bass only, have you heard Scott Henderson 1995 THE BIG WAVE? live in israel (1440p version on my channel)
@Local-Bus
@Local-Bus 15 дней назад
Thank you for this easy to understand lesson. Question: this concept is for a minor chord thats also the root of the key but not if it's the II chord of a II-V-I for instance?
@NotYourTypicalNegro
@NotYourTypicalNegro 5 месяцев назад
Listen to Scofield with Pat Metheny on the album "I Can See Your House From Here".
@bnpapp
@bnpapp 2 года назад
hi Dani,,,,went to your streamlab site to deposit some kale but the Ts & Cs i was uncomfortable with. any alternative you may suggest?
@marbinmusic
@marbinmusic 2 года назад
yup PayPal.me/marbinmusic or Venmo to danirabin
@bnpapp
@bnpapp 2 года назад
Transfer just completed...cheers mate
@effsixteenblock50
@effsixteenblock50 2 года назад
Would this stuff that works on an A7 also work on a static Em7 chord?
@effsixteenblock50
@effsixteenblock50 Год назад
11 months later.... Oh course it would! But instead of half-whole dim from the root of Em7, use half-whole dim from 1/2 down from the root. This is how to think about it if you want to still visualize it as a half-whole thing. Don't know why I asked the question in the first place - I knew the answer. Sleep deprivation?
@creator2986
@creator2986 15 дней назад
Fucking incredible
@hansmeissner734
@hansmeissner734 3 года назад
Another typo: G is not #2 of F# (recte: A)
@LydianLunch
@LydianLunch Год назад
Whoa. The secret.
@agamhamzah2924
@agamhamzah2924 2 года назад
Very inspire, is your style not Henderson or Scofield 🤟🔥
@brianj4090
@brianj4090 Месяц назад
This sounds great. So, would you say this is a strategy for dominant chords? Would you do the same for minor since the A dim arpeggio has a flat 3rd?
@marbinmusic
@marbinmusic Месяц назад
Yes ! You belong on our Patreon! Lots of tabs and examples of this stuff!
@ucciosoro2169
@ucciosoro2169 9 месяцев назад
Fa# con un #2 (Fa# Sol Sib Do#) i'm wrong or should it be (Fa# La Sib Do#)? Thanks
@justinpaquette224
@justinpaquette224 Год назад
Would you still use half whole dim on a minor key, like Dorian? Or would you use whole half dim?
@billwilkie6211
@billwilkie6211 Год назад
Whole half
@Tocesz
@Tocesz Год назад
It works, if You wanna go outside.
@leonbarron368
@leonbarron368 3 года назад
Shiiiiiiit.. mind blown
@emadnejati7620
@emadnejati7620 10 месяцев назад
When I want to play outside I usually go to the nature
@travelerworld4212
@travelerworld4212 Год назад
That sounds obvious now thanks
@alessandrograsso8570
@alessandrograsso8570 2 года назад
Another way,i think the First way to consider Is " 12 chromatic approachs by Charlie Banacos for all the family chords/Arpeggios.He plays(like Sco) enclousure arround the root notes and he Is a Great Explorer about different Arpeggios voicing to other kind of chords.This Is usual from Who comes Berklee school,DiIorio school but It Is not new approach....Bill Evans was a Great master! Other think Is the altered scale(superlocrian)...This scale had "2 spin",First part like e semi diminished scale and. Second part whole tone scale! But anyway he think about chords and not scale,he doesn't play in position....and This is a Great problem about rock Guitar players that want ti start play jazz/fusion. Same approachs Is from Frank Gambale
@nondeblah
@nondeblah 7 месяцев назад
yeah. that's my vocabulary
@nmmn939
@nmmn939 4 месяца назад
not bad😀
@danjacobson1365
@danjacobson1365 3 года назад
Shouldn't the 2nd one starting with C read C D# E And G.... not D ??
@marbinmusic
@marbinmusic 3 года назад
good catch! fixed!
@sat1241
@sat1241 2 года назад
@@marbinmusic great lesson, sounds very Scofield. Question and you are saying play theses 4 sets over AM A C C# E C D# E G D# F# G A# F# A A# C# this A C D# E is being moved around and it's moved around on the basis of an A diminished arpeggio A, C, D#, F# Are those definitely the best sounding sets of moving that around chromatically or after A C C# E could a different 3 mores sets on some other positions still sound good ( but "out" also) ? I know the logic, that is being moved according to that diminished arpeggio but against the A major chord these they are pretty out and just sound like chromatic motion so could those be replaced with a different two out sets but with those same intervals or is there something special about those particular three after the initial one built on the root? thanks
@marbinmusic
@marbinmusic 2 года назад
@@sat1241 the notes can be replaced by any of the motes of the Diminished scale that corresponds with A7 (A half whole dim). This specific 4 notes have a sound to them that is sort of bluesy because it’s a major triad with a #2 (which is like major pentatonic with a blue note) . I think you need to think about the distinction between what works (which is what ever is in the scale) and what’s cool (which is the shapes in the scale that has a sound)
@eiiiotrodger6279
@eiiiotrodger6279 2 года назад
Good tips but I'm confused why you say "triad". Shouldn't the A minor pentatonic get a minor triad, and doing what you're saying adding the 3rd for the Blues, instead of the other way around? Or I guess it;s the same idea just different way of looking at things. Either way thanks for this good tip I will subscribe so you can get some money.
@ShpookyMetal
@ShpookyMetal Год назад
Vai entered the chat
@paulmurin8398
@paulmurin8398 4 месяца назад
There's no possible way not to make stankface when you play this stuff...it's literally inevitable.
@mattf9076
@mattf9076 3 года назад
I just ran 3 red lights to get home and apply this to my..........keyboard.
@FreakyBr0
@FreakyBr0 3 года назад
be safe :)
@PJohn-gc8xv
@PJohn-gc8xv 10 месяцев назад
Police may be watching this.
@jimbob6th
@jimbob6th 9 месяцев назад
Iconic comment
@johnpick8336
@johnpick8336 2 года назад
Like Victor Wooten says "You are only a half step from the right note".
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