If a small game draws, it remains un-earned (neither an X nor an O is placed over it). If the entire game ends with a draw, one tie-breaker option is to give the win to the player who won the most small games.
I'd think in a normal tic tac toe, infact I think so much I would know if the game will end in a draw or win unless one of us stops paying attention.(if you started)
I use a 4x4x4 cube and think in 3d. That makes you think. You can get the 4 in a row in lots of unusual ways. It helps get you to think in 3 dimensions from just 4 2d grids.
I don't think this counts as ridiculous. It took a game with so _little_ complexity that there is no fun in it for anyone other than younger children and made it much more interesting. I would never play normal tic tac toe with a friend or my spouse. But this version? I almost certainly will and I wish I had known about it before. It didn't over-complicate the original game. It added just enough complexity to make it interesting.
I work with kids who love Tic-Tac-Toe, and this has been such a game changer! At first, it doesn’t make sense to them. But once they get it, we exclusively play it this way. It doesn’t feel like such a waste of paper, and by the time we complete the big game, it seems to satisfy them and we can move on to a different game 😊
@@Tarou9000 Playing to a draw in Tic Tac Toe is probably the first time that strategy had ever been presented to me, made me think about losing and winning differently. It's worth keeping!
@@foxasdf888 but the one who goes second has a better chance at winning now, especially with removing draws. With classic tic tac toe, the chance of a draw is greater than the chance of winning for the second player.
Finally a way to avoid cat games if both players are good(at normal tic tac toe i feel like if both players are good at this game the winner depends on who goes first or its just a tie again)
We used to play Ultra Tic Tac Toe (same principle as super but 9 times bigger again, though we were calling 9x9 variant a Tactic Tic Tac Toe, and 27x27 variant a strategic tic tac toe, not super and ultra) with my buddy during classes. That was very epic and also was taking a long time, so we needed several days to finish one game. We were making photos of the board at the end of the end, and used it to analyze and prepare at home. Good memories
You obviously do not know you can not play tic-tac-toe until the heat death of the universe. By definition, the players, pencils, and paper can't even exist well before the heat death even gets close.
@@bobxyzpyeah the base game of Tic Tac Toe is a solved game, if you know the tricks you can only ever win or draw. The Super Tic Tac Toe expansion opens up way more possibilities
@@bobxyzpyeah, because with base tic tac toe, you are either going into the center turn 1 or throwing, and p2 is either going into the corner, which draws the game, or throwing
@@xolotltolox7626erm no? The p1 always go for the corners first, this ensures p1 win or draw. Going for the center is less optimal and p2 have more option to draw the game compared to p1 going for the corners, thus having more random chance to draw the game without even knowing the optimal strat.
@@DaleStricklandaren't you still playing the same solved game of tic tac toe only in 9 different games which you have to take turns between? Like, at the end of the day, it's still only tic tac toe you're playing, only 9 times. But those 9 games don't actually affect the other. The game just ends up in a complete draw of every square.
@@elliebarnes9628 When you want to employ this strategy, you stand with your legs shoulder width apart facing forward at first. Then take one foot and move it back by a pace. Take your fists, ball them up (with your thumb on the outside) and hold them up to your face. Bend your knees a little and you have your most important stance...the defensive stance. To engage in mutual combat, start with your back leg to push yourself forward, then rotate your hips and shoulders to deliver your punch. and there you are. You are winning Super Tic Tac Toe
@@user-kt8re2ud2v You can’t play it on the real tesseract, in the fourth dimension, because we don’t have the access to it, but on the shadow of the tesseract in the 3D, which is a kind of a hyper cube, we can. You can look at tesseract moving, to understand.
I really enjoy this version of Tic-Tac-Toe. I have explained and played it a bunch and it has more depth to its main strategy and as far as I know, is not solved like regular Tic-Tac-Toe
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I remembered that if you won a game, each spot in all the other games which corespond to the square in which you won the game become yours unless they're already occupied, that also adds a bit of complexity to the game that can make things very interesting.
I played this with a friend in math class. Teacher challenged us to go 1 farther so we did, it was a 45min game of tic tak toe. Played again but another level up son now 4 levels in and it was almost 2 hours long…
I think this isn't possible because at the end of a classic sodoku, the amount of each number is the same, so you can't fill a square in the big puzzle with the number that appears the most in the small puzzle.
@@alkh3myst Sure, but now it's on a grander scale where you can't see everything. The amount of foresight and calculation required for you to guarantee a win or atleast a draw is several hundred times greater.
@@alkh3mysteh. Not necessarily. Now you're forced to think about where to place your mark. Those "two winning strategies" don't mean much when the same person can be the only one to move in a certain game
Way back when, I was in driving school and was playing tic-tac-toe with someone I met so many times we got board. So we came up with 3d tic-tac-toe. You draw 3 grids that are the top, middle, bottom. You can win any any of the directions of play including one in top, middle, and bottom grids.
@@itsgonnabeanaurfrommenope, they get a circle, and the Square they placed the circle in lets you move wherever you want, and you get 3 in a row in that move and win the game
The trick there is to see, in how little code, can you write logic to essentially instantiate your base game. if you’re using OOP, nested objects with appropriate overrides handles a lot of that. Honestly sounds fun. What language are you using? Python?
As a high school junior back in the stone age, I created a hard wired Tic Tac Toe, using a battery, some flashlight bulbs (incans of course), and some switches made from brass tacks/staples and pegboard and a lot of well considered wires. It was a bit hard to make good electrical contacts but at best it worked. (However I had to simplify by giving it the first turn!). When I got to college, it was SO much easier to program it, even with FORTRAN and punch cards. I already had the logic down - and it could even play second! So I went the software route for a career rather than becoming an EE. I'd rather deal with a logic bug than an intermittent contact - early trauma I guess :) (Yeah, obviously I know both routes are enormously easier and better today).
except by doing it this way it means you can force the other person to have to draw in other sections constantly. do it enough and you can win a few @@ollivainionpaa684
@@ollivainionpaa684not with the extra nuance that you can control where your opponent's next move has to be (or give them the option of choosing any square)
@@tinkutocqueville I don't know how stupid people you have played against but.. You always start middle and 2nd needs to start from corner and then just block and its always draw. If first doesn't start middle 2nd needs to start middle and then its just blocking and always draw. And since furthest memory of playing Tic-Tac-Toe goes to like age 9 and by the same age I remember noticing that the game is boring ass shit since it is always a draw.
@@ollivainionpaa684 yes, normal tic tac toe is always a draw with logical play. but in this new game, it's not just 9 consecutive normal games. he mentions the new nuance that with each move (say, X marks in the top-left mini-square of the middle big-square), the opponent can only make a move in the corresponding big square (in this case, the top-left big square). that can create scenarios where either X or O are able to play consecutive turns in one square, which will often lead to a win rather than a draw.
