car drivers should be made to cycle on the roads for minimum set distance, like 3000km, or time period like a year....in order to generate the understanding and appreciation of how dangerous, over aggressive, impatient, and reckless driving can be for cyclist and motorcyclist
@@isftish and the same could also be said of a fair number of cyclists ... we all need to remember that the road network is a shared resource and to politely respect each other. Anyone who can not do that be it a driver or a cyclist has no place on the road network in my book.
@@atffan yup totally agree. I'm both a driver and a cyclist, and i cycled to get to school and work. I have been cycling on the roads since i was 10, until i was 30 +, during the 2000s when i stopped because the aggro i received simply got too ridiculously dangerous, and got me into totally needless accidents. And it's the same incidents/accidents we see today, drivers ignoring right-of-way, ignoring red/green lights, turning or changing lanes without consideration of other road users. But because of lack of onboard camera at that time, most drivers just fked me off, and drove off after knocking me down, and it was because it was so particularly bad, AND deliberate, that i had to stop. But now because of camera technology, since they cannot escape accidents, so now both sides are using social media to defame each other, and it had become a war with cameras. Each side blaming the other, totally forgetting and ignoring, that safety is everyone's responsibility. And IMHO, most of the bad road users, both cyclist and drivers, are mostly those rich buggers, who display the same level of arrogance and inconsideration, whether cycling or driving, just because they pay like 3k road tax a year, or can afford 30k carbon bikes, they seriously think they own the roads.
@@isftish The exact things you say about motorists are what cyclists do - ignore red lights , junctions ,changing from one lane to another no signal overtaking without leaving sufficient room . The advent of cameras has highlighted the problem . The motorists are identifiable by their registration and therfore can be punished and banned if they persist. Cyclists currently can't, so as a cyclist myself, I am in favour of cycle or/and rider registration to bring cycles in line with other road users. They have introduced it for escooters - good time to do the same for cycling- it would remove the majority of the cowboy / boy road racer element that get cycling a bad name.
@@winnie6354 until people start recognising, this is not a motorist vs cyclist vs ped problem, but a general problem of over self-entitlement, and that the science of physics ignores all rules of "right of way", this is only going to get worse and more and more people will simply die until they wake up to reality.
Just started driving a transit van and cycling in London. Doing both I can understand the frustration of either side. What I will say is this. New Cyclists, don't cycle super close to vehicles especially long ones we can't see you, you're in our blind spot. You can't see what's ahead of us so if we have to stop or slow down quickly you might hit us. Also don't overtake on the left if we're moving its so dangerous and we can't see you until the last minute. Signal clearly and drivers will slow down. New Drivers, if a cyclist is wobbly dont beep at them you're making the situation worse. Also at traffic lights let cyclists get ahead and overtake when's its safe. Dont let other asshole drivers push you to speed up/make risky manoeuvres. Basically just be patient and you'll get to your destination more or less at the same time. The amount of times someone has driven past me like a tosser or cycled like a twat, ill greet them again 10 minutes later at a red light. Just relax.
I only cycled as a kid, so cycling as an adult is scary 🤣😳. Never knew how intimidating cars could be. I’ll have to pray before every cycle, especially as a bike courier 😅🏃🏾♀️
@ Ross, great advice. Although, the cyclists taking the lane, when close to curb is unsafe, often causes problems for me. Inpatient drivers, beeping and swearing. Even if I’m going to be in front for just a few 100 meters and if I do take position, they often drive on other side of road, to aggressively overtake me. What makes me annoyed most, is that so much of London roads are unsafe for e scooter and bicycles and even if we ride at 20mph which is the legal limit in most of London regular roads, the cars still get angry. I sometimes ride at 25mph and they still blast past at around 35mph in a 20. Whenever there’s police about, people behave but police shouldn’t need to be visible, for people to act normal, on the road. I much prefer to ride along main road because I can be somewhat safe, by myself, in the bus/cycle lane. Apart from arse Bus drivers and Black Taxis blasting past, practically touching me, it’s ok. On side roads it’s much more dangerous. There’s often not enough space for car to pass, even with me practically hugging the pavement. They swerve to other side of road and aggressively overtake. Mostly with added swearing . 😭😒
i really like how you use just normal people in normal clothes without all the lycra and helmets. makes cycling look much more inclusive and accessible to normal people
@@DivineLightPaladin I know people who disagree with them, like surgeons who say they can make an injury worse. Sooo I don't hate on anyone that doesn't wear them, like I said I don't wear one just whatever floats your boat. If someone's inexperienced riding definitely get one though.
Yeah I just started and get aggro’d by old people if I’m on the pavement (I always went really slow and safe) and on the flip side the roads without cycle lanes feel like a death trap.
I started by cycling early in the morning after 2am I'd stop at every red light and follow every rule regardless if the roads were empty or not I built my confidence on the road to the point I could ride at normal day time hours When you're on the road just ride stright and always assume cars are just going to drive past you then you kinda just get the feeling for it but obviously be careful and helps having a mirror
I was scared for 8 years and this year I had very important meeting at work and Elizabeth line has got service issues , Uber … to much traffic I had no choice but line bike and I made it on time !! And apart of that I enjoyed a lot , same day I’ve got a bike , now cycling everyday !!!
I wear high vis clothing and have a mirror on one handlebar which is very useful for always seeing who's coming up behind me before moving around pot holes etc. I also have a bike horn to warn pedestrians
I prefer the full outstretched arm when signalling, and general point my finger too as it should leave drivers behind in no doubt about your planned manoeuvre.
@@SilvioDiego There is NO mandatory test of competence for cyclists . Most just venture out to cause chaos without any training whatsoever. Many of them do fail to give proper consideration to other road users , not only drivers , but pedestrians too . Cyclists weave through traffic far too close for their own safety , they overtake on the left at the approach to junctions then wonder why they are knocked off , others barge across pedestrian crossings when they are in use and can be seen every day blatantly ignoring traffic lights . It is high time they were tested and registered so that they could be held accountable. Cyclists , as a group , are the most undisciplined road users . What used to be called road tax is now vehicle excise duty and it is high time cyclists were taxed to cover the administration of a registration system for them so that they can be identified and held accountable for poor cycling .
@@derekheeps1244 That's a stereotype and one that's understandable a lot of cyclists are awful, but cyclists actually break traffic laws a lot less than motorists.
That's sad to hear Barry. I live in Notts and the city council are starting to pedestrianise the centre and out in kerb protected cycle lines. Finally!
While these instructions are useful in a car dominated environment, the main message one can take away from this video is that bicycle infrastructure in London is severely lacking, and cyclists will just have to deal with it.
Training with a qualified instructor is the quickest and safest way to gain this sort of knowledge. Maybe ask your local bike shop for recommendations, or Google "Cycle training for adults" to find your nearest provider.
I got pulled by a police officer today lol.I had already turned right with no vehicles in sight and stuck to the right of the road as another turn to the right was immediately coming up.I had to stop because a vehicle was coming,preventing me from turning right.As I'm waiting the police car revs his engine,beeps his horn behind me and pulls onto the other side of the Road(blocking the other side)#idiot.He said that I had no right to be on the right side of the road and that I should stay to the left of the road even if I'm turning right.I said,your wrong and that the maneuvers he had done were illegal.He revved his engine,beeped his horn and blocked the road.He could've caused an accident,I had to get my phone out and show him this video.I said to him,I've got a driving licence and I did nothing wrong and that if I stuck to the left,to turn right puts me as a cyclist in a dangerous position.Just because they wear a uniform and think they are the law doesn't make them right. I was baffled by how clueless this p.o.was.He was aggressive in manner aswell,he still ranted on even though I'd given him proof.After educating this prick of the law and with his ranting,I told him to fuck off and continued on my journey.His face was a picture.
The police are bloody useless to be honest. I was cycling home when I was hit by a driver who decided not to stop (he slowed down but then sped up to get away). Luckily there were witnesses who got his reg number. I reported him to the police and they said they were not going to do anything about it as "he seemed like a nice man". Really!!!! He hit me whilst I was in the cycle lane and left my in the middle of the road. Doesnt seems that nice to me! But yeh, after that I have no faith in them or their abilities at all.
Perfect video that. Nails the basics. Cyclist are always going to be out there on the roads, so stop the bullying please and let’s just get on with the commute for gods sake. Everywhere is short staffed at the minute so please let us get to work in one piece ;)
Recommend reading these articles about the topic and it might change your view on these helmets: *I Do Not Wear A Bicycle Helmet* (Written by Carlton Reid) *Bicycle Helmets Not Designed For Impacts From Cars* (Written by Carlton Reid)
@@k-rj740 Those rationalizing articles don’t change my mind. I had a hard fall-down years ago. No motor vehicle involved,, according to witnesses. Even wearing a pathetic “hairnet” helmet (all we had then), I had a bad concussion, fainting, fuzzy for a week, permanent memory loss of the period leading up to the crash, badly broken collarbone. Without that (pitiful) helmet I would have died. If Reid had ever experienced something like that he wouldn’t be spouting all his silly handwaving arguments. Physics 101: if you fall off a bicycle and your head hits the road, gravity means it will be going at roughly 12mph onto a hard surface, which it wasn’t evolved to do. That’s what helmets are designed for. Nothing to do with going headfirst into a car or concrete wall (which could be worse). It takes only once to die, and anybody who thinks they’re such a skilled cyclist they’ll never fall is a fool. Modern cycle helmets are so light and comfortable that I’m not aware of mine at all, have to pat my head to be sure it’s there.
Should never go into single file, maintain two abreast, drivers must therefore overtake as if it was a slow moving vehicle by going single file your effectively a longer vehicle to be overtaking and the vehicle overtaking will take longer to complete
I've indicated and slightly moved out and still been overtaken and nearly clipped. I've learned that yes car drivers should do certain things but people don't so I check a hell of a lot more now.
The number of us when we drive that don't indicate at all at junctions, roundabout kane changing. We all need to be more considerate more of the time, including me!
Disappointed that a lot of the riders shown in this do not have helmets on, Not setting a good example British cycling! I am a cyclist and have been knocked off my bike by motorist, but I had a helmet on.
People have cycled without helmets for decades and cycling is no more dangerous than walking.. Helmets are unnecessary and only encourage dangerous cycling.
Why so much sentiment against people using bicycles? I'm 15, i can't drive a car and nor often times get a lift if I want to visit the nearby spot for fishing.
These desperately needs updating. What is said at 2:00 minutes should be repeated 3 or 4 times from the very start of this video. I’m both a cyclist and a motorcyclist and that is the main infraction I see most common
Except a motorcycle can actually make the speed limit all the time, hand signalling isn't necessary as you have visible indicators (but still good as an addon). Same stuff applies for blind spots though
yes this upload should be removed. the guy is telling you just to move in front of a car VERY LATE if you do a car dvla test they will tell you to get in position for you're turn half a mile from the turning. bikes are slower but you still have to manoeuvre for that right or left turn way before it comes. this vid is done by someone with no test, very bad
@@topbanana4013 Bollocks mate. Where did the words "vey late" occur in the video ? Sorry to be rude but that is exactly how you need to turn right. How else do you think it's safer ?
@@mikewade777 ridiculous comment - nobody chooses to have an accident. I came off my bike at speed previously and smashed the back of my head on the tarmac - I 100% would be disabled or worse if it wasn’t for that helmet. MIPS exists for a reason.
Im a new driver in london and it honestly does. If a cyclist looks at me I know they're checking to see if its safe to change lane etc I do drop my speed.
We need shorter or concise videos like this on TV for both motorists and cyclists. Might as well make a informational video on how to cross roads, etc - I see too many impatient people cross the roads like brainless zombies.
Used too, anyone old enough to remember Tuffty the squirrel or the Green Cross Code Man? BBC needs to step up to its public service responsibilities we pay them for and show this sort of information.
Doirs width of space atleast, narrow roads build up of traffic …… perhaps cyclists should heed advice in the hugh way code to save scratching cars or braking wing mirrors
if a driver can't spot an adult on a cycle, how are they going see a child crossing the road? if you can't see what's in front of you then you're not driving to conditions. I do wear hi vis & have powerful front & back lights, & I still experience illegally close passes every day. It's time far more responsibility is placed on drivers to keep others safe. In some European countries the driver is held automatically liable for any collision with a cyclist or pedestrian, leading to much more careful driving.
Out of the many thousands of cyclists there are some who instead of ensuring their bicycle contains adequate lighting for the road conditions after dark make sarcastic distasteful comments using the horrific subject of knife crime to make childish comments, mean time the genuinely safety conscious make sure their bicycle is adequately lit for the conditions after dark, and yes both of then do ensure their bike is adequately lit after dark
@@nick-jo3hy If you don't want to be called childish then you could......................................... grow up maybe and stop making childish and infantile comment trivialising the very serious issue of knife crime, if you yourself are incapable of growing up and stopping behaving like an immature childish brat you could either A) Ask an adult to help you comment on and express your opinions in a more grown up, mature and adult way, and B) Stop being such a little snowflake when the grown ups wish to have a serious discussion and call out your lack of maturity.
@@mikewade777 its not about falling off its about been crushed under a lorry wheel as the bike rider put himself and others in danger for been somewhere he should not. do a test you will learn this
Most cycle helmets do NOT protect against concussion.* It has a great picture illustrating how worthless a bicycle helmet is when a cyclist is in an accident with a vehicle such as a car. I would also recommend these web articles about the topic: *Bicycle Helmets Not Designed For Impacts From Cars* (Written by Carlton Reid) *I Do Not Wear A Bicycle Helmet* (Written by Carlton Reid)
I caught a motorist driving with a mobile in London Bridge and he had a big British Cycling logo on his van. I reported him and British Cycling didn't do anything.
Stay behind and in the mirrors of public service vehicles and lorries,they have enough on their plate without cyclists undertaking.Give them priority and stay safe!
Amazing how arrogant some of these persons on bikes are , imagining that they have any right to control / direct other road users . They would serve themselves better by remembering their own mortality and cycling more defensively instead of being rolling roadblocks which just annoys everyone else .
This is defensive riding. This is what is taught on government run cycle training schemes. This is also how police cyclists are taught. It's also pretty identical to what is taught to motorcyclists for the test. All pretty academic if drivers stick to the new mandated highway code rules for overtaking cyclists, which i'm sure you've not read. I cycle in the city, & i average around 15 mph during rush hour. I would be faster but a rolling roadblock of cars traveling at well under 5 mph get in my way every single day.
in the city it's one thing.. out in the countryside and outside city centers it is a paint to have this "things" going at a slow speed on a 55mph road.
@@chris1275cc how many km do i need to sit there?? my record is 53km at 20 to 40 below the speed limit. just HOPING for a opportunity to get past the F@£$
@@grapsorz You have to sit there for as long as the cyclist has a RIGHT to be there (which is ALWAYS) . 53km LOL I call bullsh!t what did the road you were on have no places to turn off and take a different route? Or are you just that sh!t of a driver you can only follow one road? Get out of here kid.
In the UK definitions of roads, what exactly are you thinking of calling the following a highway it means nothing specific here in the UK. Motorway, dual carriageway, A, B roads, bridleway which?
All great advice but not in the slightest practical on the road, not many drivers will be happy if you take up a third of the road so they cant overtake when you are 24 inches from the curb. Law or not its still be getting knocked off my bike when they dont like it
This sounds to me like a lack of confidence/ experience/skills, try to over time Improve your bike handling skills, be visible, get a bar end mirror, and do apply this practical guidance, so as to be confident. Also UK road surfaces are in the main, imo, dangerously under maintained, do not cycle in the gutter unless you want to lose some teeth. I ride 6,000 miles a year and of the many tens of thousands of vehicles that have passed me using these techniques and strategies only a handful of impatient dangerous humans, over 6 years, have caused any where near misses or acted aggressively, and that's as good as it gets, life is tough but would rather be fit on balance.
Number plates and insurance for CYCLISTS and promote the gap they should give when passing slow moving cars, saving paint and wing mirrors etc and can be identified and prosecuted like all other road users
Yes, great, a normal every day activity not requiring special safety equipment. About as risky as walking per mile travelled. The way a Dutch person would look at this clip - 'How sad, terrible infrastructure"....Different emphasis, better results.
I don’t agree with the 2 abreast to single out as the drivers still need to give the same amount off space needed to overtake s& singling out just tells the drivers it’s okay to try & squeeze past. Plus on corners, we shouldn’t be going single file for the same reason!
Christ I hate how the british government just refuses to let people build enough car parks. It does not decrease the amount of cars! All you end up with is cars parking on the side of roads which, in other countries, is not that common. Only in city centers when near a shop or similar. But here you don't even put enough bloody car parks in residential areas.
Shouldn't all of the riders wear helmets? Surely a video demonstrating good road safety should advertise the use of helmets rather than show cyclists not wearing them?
Some studies have shown that cars will pass helmet wearing cyclists closer because it makes you look more experienced and they think "if i do hit him/her they are protected so i'll risk it" when you weigh it up though a helmet is still a better option. Good video about it here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RWhMEkMtLy0.html
Wearing a helmet has not been conclusively shown to increase safety. Riders go faster in helmets and can have more accidents - much like drivers drive faster when seatbelts are made compulsory. Also a helmet increases the risk of a serious twisted-neck injury as there is a larger area able to strike the ground or another vehicle. Drivers pass people in helmets closer as they de-personalise the rider. Helmets also only offer limited protection and can cause overheating and ruin hair-dos.
As others have said, helmets are a massive red herring when it comes to safety. Don't believe the hype and lies. A cycle helmet will barely prevent a low grade concussion if at all, if it breaks/cracks then it will be next to usueless as it isn't compressing as it should. People wearing helmets have a higher incident rate than non helmet wearers, to such a degree that pro racing has more injuries and deaths since helmets were mandated. Countries that introduce helmet rules see increased injury rates and lower cycling numbers.
When you weigh it up a helmet is NOT a better nor safer option, you're completely wrong and that applies whether commuting, racing on roads/track or downhill mountain biking. The facts are very clear, helmet wearing has never ever increased cyclist safer, only made it worse. Helmet wearing in any activity/sport has same results, increases in injury rates, in boxing they removed headgear for exactly that reason, MORE concussions. Why do you think gridiron shows more head injuries than rugby? Skiing despite almost universal wearing shows no decrease in head injuries, cycling, cricket the same. Go check out the facts at cyclehelmet.org
1:56 Riding in parallel (except for overtaking a slower rider) is actually forbidden in the highway code for all bicycles, mopeds, scooters & motorcycles.
Andy Reid: It has never been forbidden in the UK, just a bit poorly worded in my opinion. The new wording which was indruduced later is much clearer about the legality of riding two abreast. Quote: The previous version of the Highway Code stated cyclists should “never ride more than two abreast, and ride in single file on narrow or busy roads”. The updated code says: “You can ride two abreast and it can be safer to do so, particularly in larger groups or when accompanying children or less experienced riders.” The actual rule: Rule 66 You should •be considerate of the needs of other road users when riding in groups. You can ride two abreast and it can be safer to do so, particularly in larger groups or when accompanying children or less experienced riders. Be aware of drivers behind you and allow them to overtake (for example, by moving into single file or stopping) when you feel it is safe to let them do so
Recommend reading these articles about the topic and it might change your view on these helmets: *I Do Not Wear A Bicycle Helmet* (Written by Carlton Reid) *Bicycle Helmets Not Designed For Impacts From Cars* (Written by Carlton Reid)
@@k-rj740 Keep posting the same stupid text. suppose another cyclist knocks you off your bike? which happened TO ME! glad i had my helmet and gloves on at the time. It's not just about being hit by cars; you could fall off on a slippery road and bang your head.
sorry but singling out on narrow roads is wrong and poor advice, this merely encourages the close overtake which is exactly what the narrator wants to avoid earlier on. NEVER single out on narrow roads or on a bend. If there's enough space to overtake safely then there's zero need to single out ever.
How is it, if you need to overtake a cyclist, you should give them a minimum of 1.5 mtrs, yet when a cyclist overtakes a car he can take your mirror off as he passes by?
There are thousands and thousands of cyclists out there and some who are genuinely a safety conscious cyclists do allow plenty space when overtaking other vehicles and passing pedestrians, and yes both of them do always plenty space when overtaking.
Has a cyclist ever broken removed smashed your driver's side mirror whilst you've been driving? There is to me being a driver, cyclist, van driver motorcyclist etc a distinct difference being passed when near stationary by a 100kg pedalled object travelling at 15 mph and a 2000kg + object travelling at 30 or 40 or 50 mph? It's all to do differentials in reaction time, air pressure and shock induced flinching.
This video could be part of a compulsory cyclist training package. Once complete the cyclist could then be registered and issued with a number plate for their bike (with compulsory insurance).
*"For their safety cyclists should keep to the left."* You mean keep to the left at all times? If so, that is the opposite of what makes cycling safe. Read on and be the wiser: *Riding further out from the edge of the road is safer, faster, and helps prevent motorists from cutting you up.* Never hug the kerb. That's rule one of road positioning on a bicycle. You need to be further out into the road, sometimes right in the middle of the traffic stream. Less assertive cyclists worry that being further out may put them in the way of the traffic. It won't: you are the traffic. Being in the traffic stream helps you to get treated like traffic. *Reducing risk* It can feel safer to ride in or near the gutter. It isn't safer. It vastly increases the chances of drivers buzzing past you with inches to spare. You'll have to contend with drains, cambered surfaces, and debris like broken glass that has been 'swept' to the edge of the road by the action of car tyres. And you're less likely to be seen at all by drivers. The commonest type of car-cyclist collision is the 'Sorry, mate, I didn't see you' variety. You must register in a driver's field of vision. You'll do that best by cycling where they are looking. Drivers look where their vehicle will be in the next few seconds, which is to say: ahead of them. They pay much less attention to people and objects in their peripheral vision. Initially, you may feel exposed riding further out from the kerb. But it's very rare for cyclists to get rear-ended by drivers. Being safe is being seen - and forcing drivers to react to your presence. *Controlling your space* Drivers are obliged by the Highway Code (Rule 163) to give you 'at least as much room as a car' when overtaking. Let that sink in: at least as much room as a car. That means that they should pull out, cross the central, dashed white line, and pull in again. By riding further out from the edge of the road, you force following traffic to overtake you properly instead of squeezing past dangerously close. Are you inconveniencing anyone? Only those drivers who would not have overtaken you safely in the first place. As a rule of thumb, your distance from the kerb is the same distances that drivers will give you when overtaking. *How far from the kerb?* You never want to be closer than 50cm from the kerb. Often you'll be a metre out, sometimes more. The key factor is not so much the edge of the road as the location of the traffic stream on that road; that is, where cars are actually driving in that traffic lane. There are essentially two cycling positions to choose from, relative to the traffic stream. One is the centre of the traffic stream - that is, the centre of the lane, rather than the centre of the road. You'll sometimes hear this called 'the primary position', but it's easier to think of it as 'taking the lane'. The other position is about a metre to the left of the traffic stream, so long as that doesn't bring you too close to the kerb. Sometimes called 'the secondary position', you can think of it simply as 'not taking the lane'. *When to take the lane* If you can keep up with the traffic, such as around town, it's safest to take the lane. It's also the position to adopt when you want to dissuade drivers from doing something stupid, like cutting you up. Here's a non-exhaustive list of situations when it's best to take the lane. • Approaching a pinch point, such as pedestrian island in the centre of the road. • Approaching and negotiating a roundabout. • Approaching Give Way markings. • Approaching a side road, to prevent drivers from 'left-hooking' you and to help drivers on the side road to see you. • Approaching traffic lights. • Approaching a blind corner. • Negotiating a junction. • In queues of stationary traffic. • Overtaking parked cars. *When not to take the lane* If you're not confident in taking the lane, especially when simply riding along, don't feel that you have to. If the road is busy and the traffic is moving faster than you can, either because it's a fast road or a steep hill, you're often better not taking the lane. This is a courtesy to drivers, enabling them to overtake you more easily. Your safety is paramount, so you should not feel pressured not to take the lane. If a driver pips his horn at you, relax in the knowledge that he has seen you. *Changing positions* Unless you're taking evasive action, any change in position should be gradual - particularly when moving out to take the lane. Check back to see where any following traffic is, then gradually move into your new position. If you check back early enough, you may not need to signal to change your position within a traffic lane. Signal when you need to communicate your intention to drives who are closer. Don't assume that you can move left to the secondary position without checking behind you. Around town, another cyclist or a moped rider may be about to 'undertake' you. *Specific to cyclists* Cyclists are allowed to ride two abreast, although most drivers are not aware of this. On fast or busy roads, it is courteous to single out to make it easier for drivers to pass. Cyclists are allowed to stop on double-yellow lines. Again, drivers may be unaware of this. Finally, don't tailgate motor vehicles. It reduces your visibility - in both senses - and bicycles can't stop as fast as cars, so you risk rear-ending a car if it stops suddenly. Source : CycleschemeUK Road Positioning
@@k-rj740 I didn't mean at all times and that is not what I wrote. Read what the petition, don't presume and make youself less objectionable: Change the Highway Code to recommend cyclists keep left in most circumstances The new Rule 72 in the Highway Code should be amended to advise cyclists to keep left at all times when cycling on the road, except when the road narrows sufficiently that it would be dangerous for vehicles to overtake and when approaching a junction or roundabout to turn right. More details The new Rule 72 tells cyclists to "Ride in the centre of your lane, to make yourself as clearly visible as possible", when on quiet roads or streets, (unless being approached from behind by a faster vehicle), in slower-moving traffic, and at the approach to junctions or road narrowings where it would be unsafe for drivers to overtake you. We believe the new guidance on road positioning could put cyclists and other road users in danger, and will also lead to increased pollution and energy wastage from additional braking and accelerating.
@@mdj9765 I was only asking. By keeping left you mean using the secondary position* instead of the primary position? *The secondary riding position is about a metre to the left of moving traffic, but not closer than 0.5 metres to the edge of the road (closer would mean no room for manoeuvre in emergencies and also riding over glass and other kinds of road debris). There are other reasons why someone cycling would be advised to ride in the middle of the lane other than when the road narrows. The info from CycleschemeUK comes into this further down where it says: *When to take the lane* If you can keep up with the traffic, such as around town, it's safest to take the lane. It's also the position to adopt when you want to dissuade drivers from doing something stupid, like cutting you up. Here's a non-exhaustive list of situations when it's best to take the lane. • Approaching a pinch point, such as pedestrian island in the centre of the road. • Approaching and negotiating a roundabout. • Approaching Give Way markings. • Approaching a side road, to prevent drivers from 'left-hooking' you and to help drivers on the side road to see you. • Approaching traffic lights. • Approaching a blind corner. • Negotiating a junction. • In queues of stationary traffic. • Overtaking parked cars. *"We believe the new guidance on road positioning could put cyclists and other road users in danger"* Most accidents between drivers and cyclists happen at junctions and roundabouts (Rospa data*: •75% happen at, or near, a road junction) So being seen is being safer when you are cycling on the road, and by cycling further into the lane makes you more visible to other traffic than cycling as far left as you could. By comparison to accidents at junctions, overtaking accidents and crashes are pretty rare compared to accidents where cyclists and drivers cross each other paths (such as at junctions). This is the reason why cyclists are taught by any cycling program out there (also outside the UK) to use either the secondary road position (which should be the default road position) or the primary position when it is needed, but never ride in the gutter. * "Around 75% of fatal or serious cyclist accidents occur in urban areas, at or near a road junction. In collisions involving a bicycle and another vehicle." *"and will also lead to increased pollution and energy wastage from additional braking and accelerating."* I don't believe so. I have seen thousands of cycling videos on youtube involving cyclists and drivers. Consider the fact that most cyclists in this world do their cycling in the cities and urban areas where the speed limit is low, there is constant change in traffic (due to all the cars on the road), and there is a constant interruption in the flow of traffic by things like pedestrian crossing and red lights. If drivers stop with that MGIF attitude many seem to have when catching on a cyclist, and instead start to read the traffic ahead (by taking into account all the things mentioned) there would be very little braking and accelerating in regard to passing cyclists on the road no matter their road position.
lam sorry but yes you should wear one l had a woman driver who had a kid in the front seat and she pulled out in front off me never sore me and l was very happy l was ware one and my cycling grear.
Helmets are for fucking idiots who don't understand risk and don't bother to find out how pathetic a helmet is, it won't save your life and induces wearers to take more risk and thus are involved in more incidents and get hurt more often than non helmet wearers!
@@ynotnilknarf39 Nah, they reduce the risk of head injuries by quite a bit. If you've ever cycled for non-commuting purposes ( e.g BMX, mountain, trails, dirt jumping etc) you would know the difference in the injury to your head with and without a helmet.
@@kevinnelson6070 well no shit everybody knows that and knows its irrelevant. An Olympic swimming team ignored the advice given by a shipwreck surviver, on the importance of life jackets.. The event was uneventful 👀... Nobody drowned.
@@mikewade777 Getting hit on the road is more likely than drowning in a swimming pool. The two are not equivalent. According to a US study in 2016, helmets cut the risks of severe traumatic brain injury by half, when riders suffer a brain injury. The report, in the American Journal of Surgery, also concluded that riders with helmets were 44% less likely to die from their injury. Your argument would be relevant if we were talking about wearing a helmet on a stationary bike in a gym, that's the cycling equivalent to your little analogy.
I'd rather a helmet that dues not have my blood on it. Why get angry when the decision maker bares all of the consequences. I struggled to get my kids to continue to wear them when they got to 14-15 but realised having grown up in the 70-80s we never wore them.
Are there really people on here who think that it’s perfectly okay to cycle two abreast when approaching a blind bend? Dealing with COVID is bad enough, so why take unnecessary risks whilst out on the road?
Why are you using cycles that don't conform to the construction and use regulations in this video?- as British cycling I would have expected more - at least compliance with the law .
This is SO unrealistic. Sure, if you want to get shouted at by a variety of motorists, take up the whole lane XD. This is why I'd never city cycle in England. The laws are not compatible with either humans or road conditions.
everything the guy is saying is wrong. if you use the road THEN DO A TEST like motor bike riders cbt or car test, as its all about road safety and understanding road markings and what they mean and highway code . simple as, no test no use road you are a danger to motorist and pedestrian's, and the proof is out there
If there was a cycling test, the techniques shown in this film is exactly what would be taught, as it follows the governments current "bike -ability" test to a tee. Motorists definitely need stricter testing as they still kill thousands of pedestrians a year, as well as each other & cyclists of course. Some years there are no deaths caused by cyclists, it's never more than a handful, & i've not heard of a cyclist killing a motorist or passenger ever. Just the other day a car driver crashed into a building, killing the driver & three of the buildings occupants when the car exploded. That's why cyclists insurance is a hell of a lot cheaper than a drivers.
I'd like to see how angry you get, away from your keyboard when actually trying pass a single line of say 6 bikes when they don't go side by side. UK highway code was updated/changed in 2022 and covers this point from a legality point of view. Take a chill pill Mr angry.
Pretty standard practice for countries that don't have separated infrastructure, where cyclists have to share the roads with cars. Which parts do you have a problem with & why?
trekker bob: The law is what matters here, not homemade opinions. The road is a public space and is to be shared. Driving is a privilege that can easily be taken away from you. Cycling however is an inherent right that you can never lose. Btw, most cyclists are drivers themselves according to research. Ride in the gutter? The law and common sense disagree with you there. Here is why common sense disagrees with you: *Riding further out from the edge of the road is safer, faster, and helps prevent motorists from cutting you up.* Never hug the kerb. That's rule one of road positioning on a bicycle. You need to be further out into the road, sometimes right in the middle of the traffic stream. Less assertive cyclists worry that being further out may put them in the way of the traffic. It won't: you are the traffic. Being in the traffic stream helps you to get treated like traffic. *Reducing risk* It can feel safer to ride in or near the gutter. It isn't safer. It vastly increases the chances of drivers buzzing past you with inches to spare. You'll have to contend with drains, cambered surfaces, and debris like broken glass that has been 'swept' to the edge of the road by the action of car tyres. And you're less likely to be seen at all by drivers. The commonest type of car-cyclist collision is the 'Sorry, mate, I didn't see you' variety. You must register in a driver's field of vision. You'll do that best by cycling where they are looking. Drivers look where their vehicle will be in the next few seconds, which is to say: ahead of them. They pay much less attention to people and objects in their peripheral vision. Initially, you may feel exposed riding further out from the kerb. But it's very rare for cyclists to get rear-ended by drivers. Being safe is being seen - and forcing drivers to react to your presence. *Controlling your space* Drivers are obliged by the Highway Code (Rule 163) to give you 'at least as much room as a car' when overtaking. Let that sink in: at least as much room as a car. That means that they should pull out, cross the central, dashed white line, and pull in again. By riding further out from the edge of the road, you force following traffic to overtake you properly instead of squeezing past dangerously close. Are you inconveniencing anyone? Only those drivers who would not have overtaken you safely in the first place. As a rule of thumb, your distance from the kerb is the same distances that drivers will give you when overtaking. *How far from the kerb?* You never want to be closer than 50cm from the kerb. Often you'll be a metre out, sometimes more. The key factor is not so much the edge of the road as the location of the traffic stream on that road; that is, where cars are actually driving in that traffic lane. There are essentially two cycling positions to choose from, relative to the traffic stream. One is the centre of the traffic stream - that is, the centre of the lane, rather than the centre of the road. You'll sometimes hear this called 'the primary position', but it's easier to think of it as 'taking the lane'. The other position is about a metre to the left of the traffic stream, so long as that doesn't bring you too close to the kerb. Sometimes called 'the secondary position', you can think of it simply as 'not taking the lane'. *When to take the lane* If you can keep up with the traffic, such as around town, it's safest to take the lane. It's also the position to adopt when you want to dissuade drivers from doing something stupid, like cutting you up. Here's a non-exhaustive list of situations when it's best to take the lane. • Approaching a pinch point, such as pedestrian island in the centre of the road. • Approaching and negotiating a roundabout. • Approaching Give Way markings. • Approaching a side road, to prevent drivers from 'left-hooking' you and to help drivers on the side road to see you. • Approaching traffic lights. • Approaching a blind corner. • Negotiating a junction. • In queues of stationary traffic. • Overtaking parked cars. *When not to take the lane* If you're not confident in taking the lane, especially when simply riding along, don't feel that you have to. If the road is busy and the traffic is moving faster than you can, either because it's a fast road or a steep hill, you're often better not taking the lane. This is a courtesy to drivers, enabling them to overtake you more easily. Your safety is paramount, so you should not feel pressured not to take the lane. If a driver pips his horn at you, relax in the knowledge that he has seen you. *Changing positions* Unless you're taking evasive action, any change in position should be gradual - particularly when moving out to take the lane. Check back to see where any following traffic is, then gradually move into your new position. If you check back early enough, you may not need to signal to change your position within a traffic lane. Signal when you need to communicate your intention to drives who are closer. Don't assume that you can move left to the secondary position without checking behind you. Around town, another cyclist or a moped rider may be about to 'undertake' you. *Specific to cyclists* Cyclists are allowed to ride two abreast, although most drivers are not aware of this. On fast or busy roads, it is courteous to single out to make it easier for drivers to pass. Cyclists are allowed to stop on double-yellow lines. Again, drivers may be unaware of this. Finally, don't tailgate motor vehicles. It reduces your visibility - in both senses - and bicycles can't stop as fast as cars, so you risk rear-ending a car if it stops suddenly. Source : CycleschemeUK Road Positioning
