How to Predict Calm Sea Kayaking Conditions - Be Safe on The Sea. 

Steve aka Grandad who comes out with us is 71 and he's still cracking on too :D He's on RU-vid if you're interested - search Humber Flyer :) You're right about getting local knowledge where you can. As I mentioned here, I grew up in Filey and in many respects the fact it's set in a large bay is a boon. At worst you should only get swept further along the coast and not so much outwards beyond the bay area.

@@MaldeMare lol not if it's Basil Faulty! See what I did there? 😉😁

Yeah any moving water can have unpredictable aspects, hence my philosophy about what to over/under estimate! :)

Sheesh 4 days! There can't be much hope :(

@MoreThanJustaCleaner really no hope sadly. The oru kayak and his paddle washed up on shore, and he unfortunately had given his life jacket to his friend in another kayak. So many mistakes were made but still really sad.

Jeez! :(

It'll be interesting to see what you experience 👍😁

I've recently got an anchor. That's a good use for it 👍😁

Indeed 👍😁

Good info Dave 👍😊 Whereabouts do you sail from?

@@MoreThanJustaCleaner At the moment mainly around Anglesey so you have to be mindful of the sea here, especially breaking waves. Overfalls everywhere!! To underline the Neap V Spring tides (moon states in your video) though. A couple of weeks ago I sailed through the notorious Swellies at almost mid tide with very little happening on a full Neap tide. If it were a spring you would almost certainly have to wait for LW or HW to get through.

@@SailingWithDave it's amazing the difference it makes isn't it!

@@MoreThanJustaCleaner Yes, actually as fairly novice still myself on the sea, I was mostly frightened off by the weather and sea state and the stories and warnings you hear. I am literally scared to sailsometimes!!! However if you do pay attention to some rules like in this video and also take into account some local advice then it's mostly quite safe. Funnily enough, I spoke to the RNLI about sailing around South Stack and asked thier advice and they told me that they spend all day finding paddle boarders and kids on inflatables so they would not be put out in the slightest if I ever needed help. Just don't be stupid! Once they found out what boat I was in and I had my Day skipper qualification they satrted to look at me funny. The advice was not to do it mid tide, in 30kt winds in a northerly. Otherwise you'll be fine!!!

@@SailingWithDave unfortunately there are so, so many stupid people who go out with no skill, no awareness and no safety equipment or prep. They break the philosophy I talked about here and are heading towards being one of those who say 'i thought I could handle it' and 'I didn't expect it to be so bad!' 😏

Would you like to join my kayaking group? One of our members lives in Brid and we've been on the local canals etc. If so find my contact details on my homepage and drop me a message with your phone number 👍😁

@@MoreThanJustaCleanerok, thanks Karl

The tidal speed I'm talking about here is based purely on observation. I know how far out it goes. How far in it goes is the level at high tide. On this particular day it barely reached the promenade, so you're only looking at 400 to 500 yds distance over a 6hr period. When it's a higher tide, i.e. it's smashing into the sea wall, it's an educated guess as to how far it would reach if the sea wall wasn't there. In places where there is no sea wall it's probably even easier to measure. Does that make sense buddy?

​@@MoreThanJustaCleaner Yes, got it thanks. 👍

Good stuff :)

As Carl said observation . If you want to go further into this as you have some tide tables you know when high and low tide occur. If you wish to know the tidal rate ie how fast the tide is moving at your given point you need to either purchase a tidal stream Atlas which will give you the rate(speed) and direction for each hour between high and low water tide cost about £24 however there are some apps that for about £4 year will do that for you also some calculators and watches from boat Chandlers .It all depends what you're doing paddling in a bay or really wanting tide tables to circumnavigate the UK😊. You may know this but armed with your tide tables you know the times of high and low tide that day the time between high and low is approx 6 hrs( it does vary a bit) There's a simple method called the Rule of Twelves . Let's say high is 6 am and low 12 midday the tide to consider is in this 6hrs. At 6am the tide will be slack not moving on the first hour after to 7am it will flow at one twelth rate ,from 7 to 8am two twelve s and 8 am to 9am three Twelves rate. Now at 9am to 10 am it again flows at three Twelves now reduces to two Twelves rate from 10 to 11am and One from 11am to 12 midday. So if you are paddling you can plan a easy paddle at slack or consider the flow rate if the tides going with you or against you to your advantage so taking into account wind if it's with the tide it will be smoother if it's against the tide it will make it choppy. Apologies if you knew some or all of that. On rip tides it's another subject worth reading up on. The Full moon is Spring tides when they are at their fastest rate and reach the highest high water and the lowest low water think a a ten foot deep swim pool springs from 9 ft high drop to 2ft low in 6hrs so have to move quickly so a fast rate of flow. As the moon goes from full reducing over the next fourteen days the HW height and low gradually change The high decreases and the low gets higher untill you reach the smallest moon . The saying is Springs the highest of the high the lowest of the low that means it's a fast flow, Neaps the lowest of the highs the highest of the lows. At the neap point the high and low ( the tidal range start to increase again as the moon gains goes up to full moon. It's all to do with the gravitational pull on the sea moon and earth position I won't go into that For a Paddle locally it's as Carl says and local Sources are always worth an ask. Hope that's some help..

@@chrisbamborough222 that's great info to add... Thanks so much 👍😁

I've never been that far round Mat. I didn't experience any at HG this time, probably didn't quite hit them. If you're caught in a rip tide my understanding is not to try and paddle/swim to the shore but to across until you're out of it...

@@MoreThanJustaCleaner certainly when swimming you swim sideways but wondered if the rip had the same effect on the inflatable as it's on the weather rather than in. I do remember when dinghys were blow out it was more to do with offshore winds rather than the rips that got the swimmers

It would be interesting to experience. I wonder if there's a safe way to do that... It can't be too dissimilar to a flow in whitewater, and you can certainly head across on those at an angle of say 45 degrees away from the flow. Doing that at 90 degrees would possibly broadside you and tip you out.

@@MoreThanJustaCleaner The Ferry Glide

@@pops6638 not sure what you're referring to? 😊