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Правило интернета №284: если в названии твоего видео присутствует хотя бы одна буква русского алфавита, то в комментариях с вероятно 100% будут русские пользователи.
Никогда не задумывалась, как я произношу букву Ы... А сейчас почему-то сидела, как дура, и говорила: "Ы, Ы, Ы, Ы, Ы, Ы". Потом ещё радовалась, что получается. Это почти как когда говорят, как люди дышат, и ты случайно забываешь, как дышать, и сидишь такой, пытаешься вдохнуть по инструкции. Ыыыыыыыы, такая смешная буква, боже мой...
The video is misleading. The correct pronunciation of the letter "Ы" is "УЙ!". I speak few languages myself (also Russian), that's why you can trust me.
I went from wanting to learn it to confuse my friends, for fun from playing EFT, to genuinely loving the culture despite American-Russian political.. challenges (mildly)! This was the hardest sound for me (especially ты, I’m a new learner), but this guide helped, thanks man
Very helpful!!! But still, this is the hardest thing I have ever tackled in learning languages, and I still struggle with it. You give me hope (a little) 😁
Been learning Russian for a year on Duolingo! And these videos are a blessing as an addition. Up until today I was clueless about the right pronunciation of ы. Thank you very much for sharing this!
I Romania we have that sound like ( î ) and for us it's a everyday thing we use it so much and we have two Îî from I and Î from A Ââ we have another one Ăă but that's another story it's more complicated but Russian and Chinese,Korean, Japanese have it too tho
Funniest thing about the comments is that most of them are in russian! So, this is a video for us who are learning it but apparently the ones watching is russian speakers... I wonder(as obviously I can’t understand it yet) if they are criticizing the technique or approving it or giving more tips or what? Lol any way, thanks for the video, I definitely struggle with my ы, will keep practicing
That guy definitely pronounces "Ы" wrong It should be pronounced like "УЙ" Just how our all beloved Hyperpolyglot Gigachad Alfamale Language Simp told us to
I've just started learning Russian and I struggled with this one because somehow I got it in my head that ы was a soft stop like ь. This really cleared it up for me, thank you!
You're genius, I've been learning Russian for a year now and constantly struggling with this. No teacher I've had could explain it as well as you. Apparently no one knew how to pronounce it with the correct mouth position despite being perfectly able to make the sound themselves. Had an Ukrainian teacher in the beginning who said it's supposed to sound as though someone's punching you in the solar plexus while saying i, I didn't really get it then despite her best efforts 😅
Apparently, these were incompetent teachers, an experienced Russian teacher should know how to pronounce the sound "ы" and be able to explain the correct position of the tongue and so on
@@lolitavine9616 *No, it's not like that!* That's where the rules are taught grammar, there are a lot of rules and as for the pronunciation of letters, this is taught at home!
This might help: russian consonants are velarized before the ы so what this means is basically that your tounge is bunched back like you would pronounce the letter w (like in the word "we") so when your tounge is in that same position after velarized consonant, the sound ы comes extremely naturally
@@CyReVolt You described this so much better than the video even did, ive been trying to learn how to pronounce this for months, and thankfully I stumbled upon your comment and with your trick learned it within 5 minutes, Thanks!
Man, I hear what you're saying, it makes perfect sense, but I STILL sound like I'm just doing a Kermit the frog impression. And my tongue gets "stuck" because I'm consciously trying to place it there and then the next word gets smashed into the Tbl or Mbl. So hard. At least I can say the Russian "R" sound properly
in ancient russian ъ had sound in the middle berween a and o, and ь had sound in the middle between e and i. like letter e or conbination gh in english, that letters were not pronounced in lots of cases, so in modern russian that letters dont have sound, an in that cases where they do sound, they were replaced with a/o/e/и. ы is combination of letters ъi, and it is something like i, but with a-o vibes
As a professional teacher, I can recommend the following - say the English [u:] (like in mood, room) and while saying it smile. It is important; start with pronouncing the long u: sound and then smile while making the sound. This way your lips, tongue, and jaw get in the right position and you pronounce a perfect ы sound. Practice it as many times as needed, the more often the better. Your articulatory system will be able to remember what to do next time you need to say ы in Russian.
Watch an animation on how the tongue sits on the pallet when rolling the R and keep practicing. Look at Norwegians pronouncing R cus they do it a bit harsher
@Ponga Pandit but it is so. I've been living in Russia almost all my life and it's not rare when person can't properly pronounce R. Their Rs sounds more like german R (at least they have advantage that language). It's speech defect and in common terms it called "картавость" (for some reason it translated by Multitran like "burring", but I don't sure if it's right)
Ey man, if you speak spanish, try it puting your mouth with the G, like "gigante". I didn't see videos teaching in this way and I feel it like that. Your mouth like G, and trying to say и
You probably already have learned to pronounce it, but I still wanna share a tip to pronounce it instantly. So, there are two "Ng" sounds in English: the soft one (as in "singer"), and the hard one (as in "Kong".So, try pronouncing "singer" with the hard "Ng".You will get "sыnger". That's a common mistake of Russian speakers, by the way.I myself have fallen into this
Звук "ы" должен хорошо даваться именно англоговорящим, им труднее приознести "и" (особенно после твердого "л"). Просто не надо их вводить в заблуждение. Пусть послушают, как звучит "Wisdom" у Биттлз (именно как "Уыздым", это и есть оно, "ы"). Или даже на этом ролике, например, где-то на 0:40 и сл., в "simple position" ("сымпъл позышън") или в "your lips" ("йо: лыпс"). Ибо "ы" - всего лишь аллофон звука "и" после твердого согласного; поэтому его и не бывает в начале слова (кроме искусственно-читаемых заимствований), и по начертанию буквы это дифтонг, т.е. Ъ+I, несмягченное "i". Поэтому если протянуть "ы", оно переходит в "и" ("Эх, вы-и-и-и...", у Горького), и в стихосложении рифмуется с "и". А то, чему "учат" ударники по сплетениям и т.п. -- это не русский, а польский, румынский или татарский "ы", самостоятельный звук, не переходящий в "и" и могущий быть началом слова.
Funny that it doesnt actually depends on tongue position : ) . Its more throat movement, but because its harder to explain throat movement i think that tongue teaching is good idea. Good job!
Thanks for the articulatory phonetics! I had been saying it like the "u" (as in "tu") in French or the "ö" (as in "öl") in German, but that's clearly too rounded.
Which variety of Portuguese do you natively speak? I'm asking because I've read that a sound similar to ы exists in unstressed syllables in European Portuguese but not in Brazilian.
@@luckyluckydog123 It's in European Portuguese, in words like "melhor" the "e" sounds like ы in european portuguese, in most of the varients of brazilian portuguese they pronounce it with a stressed э like in the word "это"
Eu sou brasileira e ы é a pronúncia mais difícil que já apendi!!! E olha que falo espanhol, ingles, português e tô aprendendo agora russo 😭😭😭 eu sofro com essa lingua
самые заинтересованные зрители этого видео это сами носители, не важно что я всю жизнь говорю букву ы, мне жизненно необходимо посмотреть гайд как произносить букву ы от преподователя русского для иностранцев🤲
Оно достаточно похоже на звук "i" (как в "lit" или "spit"). Фокус ещё в том, что нужно напрячь нижнюю челюсть, опустить её и кожу растянуть по краям. Возможно, ещё немного напрячь гортань, т.к. звук, возможно, начинает резонироваться чуть ниже, чем когда говоришь "i". Если попробовать протянуть "i", (как в "shit" или "bit") при всех вышеупомянутых манипуляциях, получится достаточно близко :)
