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How to protect yourself from government propaganda - Laura Dodsworth | Spectator TV 

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@mokeboi3328
@mokeboi3328 Год назад
By far the best one so far. Laura you are a legend. Humble, calm, measured, respectful..but with a fire in your belly...more of you in the public square please.
@rogerflack415
@rogerflack415 Год назад
Agreed. Excellent interview.
@tomgreene1843
@tomgreene1843 Год назад
I don't live in the UK , but it is much the same in Ireland ...we have new proposed hate legislation ....with no definition of hate!
@foxtrotjulietbravo5536
@foxtrotjulietbravo5536 Год назад
@@tomgreene1843 - We're all racist in the U.S. Me? We're experiencing our annual global warming here in Florida. It happens every July/August. So I'm contributing to global warming by cowering in the AC but I also had biology classes prior to woke education. I know that without carbon plants can't flourish. Not losing any sleep over all this nudging/bullying.
@Jules-Is-a-Guy
@Jules-Is-a-Guy Год назад
This is a good episode, pls also have on Kahneman or Thaler to discuss nudging and Behavioral Economics.
@smelltheglove2038
@smelltheglove2038 Год назад
I live in the US. I first heard about this “Nudge” theory I was listening to this podcast/NPR syndicated program called “Freakenomics” around 2013. I immediately called it what it is, disturbing and authoritarian. The girl I was with thought it was a good idea. Looking back at the situation in the car that day, what I find most interesting was my immediate response of disgust. I was so disturbed this was going on in England and they’re bragging about it and even have a division in the government almost made me physically sick. The girl I was with in the car was completely uninterested, and when prodded admitted she thought it was a good idea if it was aimed towards certain demographics to achieve “equity”. I always considered myself way more libertarian than most, but this event made me a radical.
@roncarlin3209
@roncarlin3209 Год назад
Why does Sunstein always get overlooked?
@d.pbriers8060
@d.pbriers8060 Год назад
Great interview!
@winstonschwarz1636
@winstonschwarz1636 Год назад
Hang on... Fairies are real and so is Spiritualism.
@roncarlin3209
@roncarlin3209 Год назад
Or so my ouija board tells me.
@wolfhugs2221
@wolfhugs2221 Год назад
If you can excuse killing an animal for a passing palate pleasure, you can excuse killing humans. Ironic that she discredits her own position.
@gailclough1665
@gailclough1665 Год назад
I never get tired of listening to this wonderful woman. She kept me sane during lockdown
@GB-nu6ow
@GB-nu6ow Год назад
not heard of her before unfortunately but she is great 👍 - definitely going to read her books.
@robw7676
@robw7676 7 месяцев назад
Laura & other people like her were a minority who stayed sane and helped keep the rest of us who did from feeling like we were alone in it
@Granniopteryx
@Granniopteryx Год назад
In this interview I noticed that Ms Dodsworth spoke about “lawful opinions”. This is a phrase that has been repeated several times in the past couple of weeks. The first time I saw it was in Dame Alison Rose’s letter to Nigel Farage but she has not been the only one trading that concept and it is a subject I have dealt with in a couple of my own videos. There is no such thing as an UNLAWFUL opinion. We can all hold whatever opinions we want. This is a very dangerous phrase but especially ironic being used in this particular conversation about freedom of thought and governmental manipulation.
@lynneharvey3425
@lynneharvey3425 Год назад
Thank you Laura. You are the voice in the wilderness for us sceptics.
@jasonzacharias2150
@jasonzacharias2150 Год назад
She's a dream...
@martinheath5947
@martinheath5947 Год назад
After all that's happened I think we're entitled to know who the shadowy, behind the scenes people at SAGE really are, the names, not least because we funded them to advise during the 'pandemic'. Where are they now?
@leonharrison800
@leonharrison800 Год назад
Never trust conservatives or religion. Best truth yet.
@roncarlin3209
@roncarlin3209 Год назад
They weren't that shadowy. Neil Fergusson became a BBC celebrity.
@spex357
@spex357 Год назад
The Mitchie woman now works for the WHO with all the other communists.
@carbonbasedunit3422
@carbonbasedunit3422 Год назад
Laura and Winston. Two great minds and well worth listening to.
@jasonzacharias2150
@jasonzacharias2150 Год назад
Getting her book, she's on to something lol
@samanthamoir7673
@samanthamoir7673 Год назад
I’ve been going through the same thing. Reading books again, started going to church and revisiting all my beliefs to question where I sit with them.
@Gorbyrev
@Gorbyrev Год назад
Brilliant, beautiful and measured, this is essential listening. God bless you both.
@rogerflack415
@rogerflack415 Год назад
BBC have always seen themselves as the gatekeepers of news for the UK. Asserting a position of authority at a time where public confidence in them is at an all time low, seems perfectly natural. Like a lot of institutions they have absolutely no sense of irony.
@nmpolo
@nmpolo Год назад
I believe their constant doubling-down will be their downfall.
@Cotictimmy
@Cotictimmy Год назад
I rather like the 'MAAATE!' video because it's simultaneously comical & revealing of what Sadiq Khan and his advisors think of ordinary young men. Sunlight is the BEST disinfectant.
@georgehetty7857
@georgehetty7857 Год назад
And their own bigoted views!
@hetrodoxly1203
@hetrodoxly1203 Год назад
That would be ordinary white men, the fact they call football 'soccer' tells us where their influence came from.
@roncarlin3209
@roncarlin3209 Год назад
Shouting "MAAATE" in an asylum is nearly as bad as shouting "PEANUTS". The nuts might take you literally.
@Gesundheit888
@Gesundheit888 7 месяцев назад
Sunlight is the ultimate disinfectant!
@shelleyhowell86
@shelleyhowell86 Год назад
One of the men behind the curtain looks a lot like Bill Gates.
@excellentcomment
@excellentcomment Год назад
"Believe half of what you see And none of what you read" -- More wisdom from our forebears
@roncarlin3209
@roncarlin3209 Год назад
I don't believe that.
@dedopest3305
@dedopest3305 Год назад
I don't believe that
@angelpajarillo
@angelpajarillo Год назад
Laura is so spectacularly elucidating and articulate
@just_another32
@just_another32 Год назад
good podcasts, Marshall.
@immensus
@immensus Год назад
What an important conversation and book. Thank you for this work, and this interview!
@ourladymelody
@ourladymelody Год назад
A set of higher principles. Indeed. We need God, even a God we know explicitly we are creating on purpose. There must be something bigger than all of us that sets an immutable moral standard.
@kieronedwards6249
@kieronedwards6249 Год назад
Road to Davos? , What do you expect from an archbishop who is so low church he may as well be holding service in an underground car park. (not my quip , one of moldbug's)
@seakayak4425
@seakayak4425 Год назад
The lockdowns and restrictions on so many personal freedoms were happily embraced by so many at the time and probably again in similar circumstances I suspect leaves me a little depressed about human nature to be honest
@jayjaydubful
@jayjaydubful Год назад
Covid & the gender wars have hugely reduced my trust & faith in human nature
@lawrenceplatzky8639
@lawrenceplatzky8639 Год назад
Amazingly courageous
@theodwyn4491
@theodwyn4491 Год назад
“….road to Davos moment”. Brillant!
@ambivalens
@ambivalens Год назад
There was only one acceptable approach to achieving herd immunity: it was herd mentality
@roncarlin3209
@roncarlin3209 Год назад
Turns out that one thing we got horribly wrong with Covid is that we thought that there was a herd immunity threshhold that could protect the vulnerable. Turns out we've all been infected, predominantly with Omicron.
@alphabetaxenonzzzcat
@alphabetaxenonzzzcat Год назад
Unfortunately - I think "herd mentality" is human nature. The majority of the public seemed to really like lockdown and all the restrictions that entailed.
@purpledahlia1969
@purpledahlia1969 Год назад
Fascinating. Interesting though that someone so aware of manipulation should turn to religion when religion uses manipulation so widely.
@whosweptmymines3956
@whosweptmymines3956 Год назад
I mean "religion" isn't really just one thing. There are many religions, and they're extremely different. If you define the category broadly enough to include extremely different thought systems like Sunni Islam and Zen Buddhism, you're going to wind up including trendy, modern Secular Humanism as well. I see plenty of manipulation in Atheist circles as well. We're all human.
@sensibar417
@sensibar417 Год назад
Let’s define religion as the spiritual sphere that helps us examine our souls and connects us to eternal truths. Not Religion as an institution used to rule people.
@lefroy1
@lefroy1 Год назад
Easy: Don't read anything they write, don't listen to anything they say, but if you happen to do either, don't take a single word of it at face value.
@alandavidge1273
@alandavidge1273 Год назад
When I did my teacher training many years ago, I was introduced to the cognitive and the affective domain. One is about facts and figures, the other is about feelings. When I taught social history, I concentrated on the latter to get the message across. I think the propagandists have definitely chosen the affective domain to get the best results.
@petragiri2308
@petragiri2308 Год назад
Secretary of Digitalisation in The Netherlands Ms Van Huffelen went to Brussels (possibly ordered by Rutte/Schwab) a couple of months ago and signed a legally binding document to introduce Central Bank Digital Currency. This was a few days after the Dutch parlement had had a debate about it and 75% of the parlement had rejected the EU proposal. It was not even in the news. The MP’s were furious but we have a fait accomplis. Contract is legally binding. Same with the digital dossier ID cards. So it is not just citizens being misled, politicians too.
@michaelcrouch5708
@michaelcrouch5708 Год назад
The ugly human vices of these despicable characters skulking in the shadows of Westminster are no different to the power play of a tudor royal court.
@hcarling2809
@hcarling2809 Год назад
Thanks to everyone who questioned. The evil ones outed themselves & we now know how far they r prepared to go. Mind blowing, liberating, take no shyte, question everything!
@seakayak4425
@seakayak4425 Год назад
These books are now on my shopping list I think and as for Sky news twigged them a way back, I used to get angry but now I find them laughable and as for the beeb cancelled my license also
@AmberMcAvey
@AmberMcAvey Год назад
I'm so glad YT started playing this video. Brilliant woman, I'd never heard of her but now I'm going to read her book!
@Stew282
@Stew282 Год назад
Very interesting and enthralling interview. Fascinating lady and excellent interviewer. Thanks.
@annichka8711
@annichka8711 Год назад
This stuff works on people with sheep-like minds.
@princessmargaretuncommonwe7209
I, too, thought my consumption of podcasts was getting me informed faster and more efficiently. I was away from books for quite a while and noticed that when I picked up books, my concentration was lacking. I'm cutting down on the podcasts, and I have made a rule that I must be physically working on a project (like gardening, or shoveling snow, etc.) while listening. I'm really enjoying books again. Actual books that I hold in my hands. My stress level has lowered.
@miranda4699
@miranda4699 Год назад
Good rule. I find sitting down with a book really relaxing because you can't do anything else but read!
@DavidA-ps1qr
@DavidA-ps1qr Год назад
Absolutely fantastic interview. At last we hear what I'm thinking and have thought for some years. Will Sky News broadcast this? No way. Don't ever watch it, it's like having an electronic marxist in your room.
@miranda4699
@miranda4699 Год назад
Haven't watched it or the BBC (apart from the Queen's funeral and the Coronation) since they misrepresented and misreported the start-of-Brexit party. Sky Australia on youtube is good though!
@First_Principals
@First_Principals Год назад
Cognitive biases and logical fallacies should be taught at school.
@hetrodoxly1203
@hetrodoxly1203 Год назад
The fires that disrupted a small part of Rhodes which was the south east corner were reported in a local Greek news paper the day after the fires started, it stated a local retired farmer was being questioned for starting the fires, the BBC must have known this.
@roncarlin3209
@roncarlin3209 Год назад
45:00 To see if Google is manipulating their results, just google "white american families".
@nowaylon2008
@nowaylon2008 Год назад
The principle job of a journalist or a news organisation is to check and verify its OWN work, not to police and judge the work of others. This is the fundamental problem with all this fact checking and disinformation reporting; they are not investigating the issues themselves, they are investigating those who fail to conform and say the "right things". I find it frustrating that even these two fail to appreciate this basic point.
@nmpolo
@nmpolo Год назад
Agreed, I was surprised Laura didn't mention this when the interviewer was asking about BBC Verify.
@andygriffiths9916
@andygriffiths9916 Год назад
Great interview thank you.
@virginicaanderson1569
@virginicaanderson1569 Год назад
The more they nag, sorry nudge, the less I trust or believe them!
@metgirl5429
@metgirl5429 Год назад
Great conversation I’m buying the book Are we awake yet🕊 Following from Adelaide Australia 🕊🙏🏻🕊
@anushkacindyshadiack1105
@anushkacindyshadiack1105 Год назад
Ask Robespierre, Danton and Camille . Eventually decapitated by their very own system.
@pauljohnson6233
@pauljohnson6233 Год назад
A brilliant interview facilitated by a great interviewer and a brilliant book.
@sarahwilliams3176
@sarahwilliams3176 Год назад
I read State of Fear shortly after publication and I’ve also returned to church recently ! I like to think I’m a fellow traveler with Laura. I’d also like to thank her so very much for putting her case so succinctly even I ‘get it’ ! 😂❤
@miranda4699
@miranda4699 Год назад
Brilliant interview! Congratulations to Winston for his apt and well-timed questioning and to Laura for her precise, intelligent and non-panic-inducing answers (and to her fellow author for his work). I did not expect to enjoy this interview but I did! Thank you. I look forward to reading the book.
@-Gorbi-
@-Gorbi- Год назад
Curious isn’t it how many of these fact checkers seem to be very middlebrow, socially-bubbled, and generally naive. They seem more like appointed hall monitors, and hall monitors earn respect from no one
@SCjunk
@SCjunk Год назад
Maaaate campaign goes beyond the SNP Gov't it is more akin to the Stasi,
@bdesruis
@bdesruis Год назад
Critical thinking, Propaganda, nudge unit ... and then going back to religion ???
@roncarlin3209
@roncarlin3209 Год назад
You should try Secular Christianity. Follow the moral teachings and ethics of Jesus Christ, but ditch the supernatural.
@bdesruis
@bdesruis Год назад
Sorry, even from the teachings of Jesus, you have to pick and choose. He said some atrocious things.
@roncarlin3209
@roncarlin3209 Год назад
@@bdesruis Name one. Other than the vine reference.
@lknight5579
@lknight5579 Год назад
52:02 hmm, in defence of Maslow, you try existing without food water and air.
@petragiri2308
@petragiri2308 Год назад
Brilliant interview btw. I will buy this book and copies for my friends.
@mudchair16
@mudchair16 Год назад
Imagine thinking the Spectator isn't controlled opposition.
@dawnemile7499
@dawnemile7499 Год назад
I agree with you guest 100% and it is scary and makes me angry as well. In addition to what she said, she needs to discover how the occult is informing those in power and much of the population.
@louishiggins8881
@louishiggins8881 Год назад
Thoughtful discussion, really appreciated - more please 🙂.
@fraserbailey6347
@fraserbailey6347 Год назад
Laura is a true heroine of our time. As beautiful as she is intelligent, perceptive and articulate. She was vaguely on my radar before 'State of Fear', but for some reason I thought of her as a leftie-progressive Guardianista. Perhaps I was confusing her with someone else. As she points out here, we are being endless propagandised regarding climate change and many other things.
@petragiri2308
@petragiri2308 Год назад
The trouble with lies you tell, or share, is that you may start to believe them yourself. You become a prisoner of your own lies. And the opposite to lie is truth. And truth always wins. Because you can lie to people but it is the people who live in the reality, and reality does not go away no matter how many veils you try to throw over it. The Chinese use this proverb. ‘’The sun, the moon, and truth are three things that cannot remain hidden’’. Do you think that in China, or any other controlled society that the people cannot see?
@zerodivisionerror
@zerodivisionerror Год назад
"Believe nothing you hear, and only one half that you see."
@Gesundheit888
@Gesundheit888 7 месяцев назад
All narratives to which the questioning thereof ends in "denier" must be examined to the very core. TO THE VERY CORE! All of them, without exception.
@tomgreene1843
@tomgreene1843 Год назад
You should come to Ireland for a look around at the universities and media, not to mention political intellectual monoculture.
@fraserbailey6347
@fraserbailey6347 Год назад
Ireland is lost, it's too late.
@tomgreene1843
@tomgreene1843 Год назад
I don't think so . @@fraserbailey6347
@Ann-qf5vk
@Ann-qf5vk Год назад
Laura for your next book re Death and/or religion look up Professor Emeritus Nic Wyatt. I wouldn't mention his name if I thought I would be intruding into his private life. He is an expert on Ancient Near Eastern studies. Also in relation to the book you are discussing the writings of the late Mary Douglas anthropologist are well worth a read. Thank you for a most interesting and informative interview. 👋👋👋🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Nic was professor of Religious Studies at Edinburgh University but now lives in London and still slaving away.
@peterjmcc1953
@peterjmcc1953 Год назад
Ecellent. This woman answering intelligent questions has already made my mind freer. But may I point out, as someone who does not live in London, that the item about the "Mate" campaign was outside my experience.
@tallard666
@tallard666 Год назад
50:00 I think Laura made a mistake, she's an omnivore, not a carnivore! 🤣 I still like her contribution to the debates. Apes and bears are OMNIVORES.
@lechenaultia5863
@lechenaultia5863 Год назад
Fascinating and disturbing, thank you. In Australia, Midalia Steel runs ads featuring a dog ( a blue heeler, naturally) and the catchcry 'MAAATE!' 😁 nothing to do with the Lord Mayor of London, I hasten to add!
@AxelvonSchubert
@AxelvonSchubert Год назад
A brilliant dissection and discussion around the devilish practices of our current totalitarian elite. In that context, I enjoyed the word ‘calibrating’ of people’s minds, although I deem this to be a euphemism and would rather use ‘manipulating’. ‘Calibrating’ implies fine-tuning to perfection or attaining an established, recognized benchmark of an instrument or piece of machinery without any kind of malice or hidden agenda, which this is clearly not. Furthermore, we should be aware of the newly minted, misleading lingo employed most certainly by well-hidden teams of psychologists and lawyers to forge or ‘calibrate’ the tools of our Governments’ narrative to influence people’s thinking. I have been appalled by the UK’s newly found and frequently used expression of ‘Small Boat Crossings’: The adjective ‘small’, by definition, describes something of small size, or little importance or concern. Thus the fiendishly strategic use of the word ‘small’ in direct connection with ‘boat crossings’ hides and dissimulates the actual enormousness of the catastrophe we are facing of actual migrant boat crossings. This is intentionally misleading and aimed at warping our minds. It creates a false perception of the extent of the issue and tricks us into perceiving this horrific tragedy and failure of our Governments to control our borders as a ‘small problem’. Most concerning to me is that these manipulators actually consider the public as enormously stupid.
@maryt.2067
@maryt.2067 Год назад
really excellant has me thinking and thinking. I applaud this choice of interview subject!
@triggerhappy3034
@triggerhappy3034 Год назад
Fantastic interview and information. Will definitely seek out her books. Thank you!
@timmann8347
@timmann8347 Год назад
Nonsense!
@mikeysaint4368
@mikeysaint4368 7 месяцев назад
Factories were belching black smoke for a century; cars were spluttering more black smoke; trains, ditto; and of course coal fires were the norm. The air has never been cleaner, yet it's now that we're told that we're causing climate change.
@es6544
@es6544 Год назад
He finally buttoned his shirt!!
@GodsOwnPrototype
@GodsOwnPrototype Год назад
'The Person of Gorian Dray', sounds like a good 21st Century rework.
@patricksullivan1827
@patricksullivan1827 Год назад
I'm pretty smart and I too believe in faeries. However I might add: I know the difference between potential realities, my realities , other peoples and social realities. There is a magickal verse, just saying!
@mickeyotoole9780
@mickeyotoole9780 Год назад
She's correct in one thing anyway, & that is that the media reporting on Climate Change is very poor. Most of those reporting\commenting appear to have little knowledge of the subject. One of the worst examples of this was on this very website. I'm referring to an interview with a ms Lionel Shriver here about two months ago. Ms Shriver was pontificating in a most arrogant manner on the subject, but it transpired that she was a total ignoramus on the subject.
@jasonzacharias2150
@jasonzacharias2150 Год назад
Unfortunately I think we had nudge units in the US way before COVID, they are just flagrant now that things are starting to collapse
@duncanfindlay3227
@duncanfindlay3227 Год назад
Remember that saying that was buried because it said the truth out loud, “this is a post truth world “ and so it is.
@JosephB-tv7gf
@JosephB-tv7gf Год назад
He, he, he! Boris wore the mask and he still got the bug. (also got the v**). It all makes me wonder just how useless is "useless".
@roncarlin3209
@roncarlin3209 Год назад
Boris got the Eton sniffles. All public school boys are sissies when it comes to common colds.
@m4rkb0y
@m4rkb0y Год назад
Excellent show, but the same can't be said for the lipsync which is so bad a skeptic would struggle to believe any of it.
@spm36
@spm36 Год назад
Lauras book is excellent...and it helps shes 100% yummy❤
@ihwalton
@ihwalton Год назад
It is precisely her " humble calm tones" which allow her in connection with climate change to slip in: " we are told the science is settled but it is clearly still contentious". Climate science has little to say about greek arsonists but much that is incontrovertible to say about how climate change is creating the conditions for fires. Perhaps Laura will find more sympathetic audience amongst the evangelical End of Days crowd she seems to be headed toward. Covert propaganda is worth writing about but it is distressing that the Spectator continues to weave climate denialism into every other story. What is your editorial stance on this ?
@darkspeed62
@darkspeed62 Год назад
This was a quality interview, and ai Love how you gave Laura the time to fully and properly talk.
@joebaird5874
@joebaird5874 Год назад
I returned to church after 30 years as I was outraged at them closing during lockdown.
@john_smith1471
@john_smith1471 Год назад
Really absorbing interview, all the better for allowing Laura to speak and say everything she wants to without interruptions, which is a habit another broadcaster continually does with Laura, also the audio quality and acoustics were excellent as if Laura was in a proper sound absorbing studio, often not the case with her interviews.
@paddymeboy
@paddymeboy Год назад
What difference does it make? You people wouldn't know a fact if it kicked you up the arse.
@jayjaydubful
@jayjaydubful Год назад
Ha that is SUCH a good point about fact checkers not being interested in correcting claims about men being able to get pregnant. That says it all 👏
@zebmason6530
@zebmason6530 Год назад
Isaac Newton was an alchemist, don't think that he believed in fairies though.
@Jannette-mw7fg
@Jannette-mw7fg Год назад
Free speech and free thinking are the same thing! Peterson explains this very wel, people can not think on their own, they need to speak with others while their thinking develops....
@brianoconnell3237
@brianoconnell3237 Год назад
Excellent debate.
@philjames6206
@philjames6206 Год назад
Start by not reading the Tory papers and ignore the garbage that is GBNews.
@jayjaydubful
@jayjaydubful Год назад
Shes 50! Wow she looks great. New role model unlocked 🔓
@michellemitchell9204
@michellemitchell9204 Год назад
A brilliant interview with Laura Dodsworth.
@richardjw953
@richardjw953 Год назад
An author who says she wants to read the printed word more. Did we just get nudged?
@tallard666
@tallard666 Год назад
Laura Dodsworth is quite wonderful!
@johnwebber609
@johnwebber609 Год назад
Extremes in Anything are much more fun..
@londonhodnet4079
@londonhodnet4079 3 месяца назад
Wow! Am here from the Tommy Robinson film
@SuperBlinding
@SuperBlinding Год назад
Thank You for this Interview.
@EyreEver
@EyreEver Год назад
Renew them by your Word; your Word is truth.
@chrisdunderdale
@chrisdunderdale Год назад
Sounds like she’s saying “fat checkers”
@gothicpagan.666
@gothicpagan.666 Год назад
If you consider the climate crisis is questionable, one very useful fact worth knowing, to enable you to understand any arguments, is what is the cause. It is stated that transport, world wide, is circa 7.9 million tonnes Co2 per annum. The use of computers/servers but not including the manufactur of 300 million new units annually by 2025 is calculated at circa 1 million tonnes per hr. Puts things into perspective.
@jayjaydubful
@jayjaydubful Год назад
Yet they are pushing digital currency, 4& 5G & battery technology.....hmm
@alphabetaxenonzzzcat
@alphabetaxenonzzzcat Год назад
I can't help but think Laura is controlled opposition. She didn't object to the 💉, the mandates and also the nasty side effects that has. She also didn't seem to want to criticise people in the media who backed the first lockdown(e. g. Mike Graham and Julia Hartley-Brewer). I am a bit cynical, and say she has done quite nicely with selling her book.
@darrenpat182
@darrenpat182 Год назад
I don't think she is controlled opposition, but I do think she treads lightly and knows how to play the game.
@Io-Io-Io
@Io-Io-Io Год назад
Hi buddy, I don't like your glasses though :)
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