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How To Pump Down an AC Unit Into the Outside Condenser - Pump Freon Into Air Conditioner 

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@texture6
@texture6 6 лет назад
Pretty good juggling skills, multitasking several things plus the camera.
@Usvsthem24
@Usvsthem24 3 года назад
Good Vid Ben. A few veteran tips..turn the system on at the thermostat and lower the temp. Let it continue to run on the inside to help boil off any liquid left..also this way you can just use the disconnect to power the compressor so you dont have to hold the contactor, ive seen that end badly bro.
@kbmblizz1940
@kbmblizz1940 Год назад
👍 Please remind viewers to purge air from gauge hoses b4 pump down. Also if you push the hose seal tight while turninging the knurled collar, it will form a seal to minimize refrigerant blow off. Learn to do it quickly. Works in installing of hoses too. But the best is a low-loss valve that you can open the shrader after the hose is attached.
@readthebibleforyourself.7939
@readthebibleforyourself.7939 2 года назад
Legend. Very clear and straight forward. No time wasted with pointless chitchat. 👌
@BenjaminSahlstrom
@BenjaminSahlstrom 7 лет назад
Using gloves is definitely a good idea. Especially if you're new to working with refrigerants. I should have been wearing them but forgot as I took them off to start the video. Stay safe and thanks for watching!
@alejandroespinoza3686
@alejandroespinoza3686 5 лет назад
Thank you. Straight to show and tell, no b.s. Also thanks for the r410a comment, that is what I am going to use, so I will research further.
@tdavis357
@tdavis357 5 лет назад
Great video and although some comments are negative I like your respectful rebuttals good job sir
@juanp9178
@juanp9178 2 года назад
The other guys make it more difficult and you make it look so easy! I like your videos thank you!
@w8what575
@w8what575 5 месяцев назад
They make it seem more difficult to keep people thinking it’s difficult to do so that it justifies the prices they charge for it….
@MrYournamehere4202
@MrYournamehere4202 4 года назад
Thanks for your help.. I didn't lose any refrigerant after the pump down
@kittyfanatic1980
@kittyfanatic1980 5 месяцев назад
Extension bars work wonders moving forward. Thx for the vid.
@wellsie24
@wellsie24 3 месяца назад
made me cringe when i saw the ratchet appear instead of a extension
@ShimonKupferman
@ShimonKupferman 4 года назад
Thank you very much! A little safety note: In a manufacture manual book, I saw that they say that need to be careful not to face the taps (when removing the taps covers), because in rare cases they might fly... I really enjoy your videos. Just so you know!!
@hg2.
@hg2. 3 года назад
Very good. I've seen this topic may incomprehensible with complexity. Keep 'em coming.
@drsawyer5085
@drsawyer5085 3 года назад
Exactly what I was searching for. Thanks a million!!
@Honestandtruth007
@Honestandtruth007 7 месяцев назад
Thank you Ben for this video 👍👍
@aaronwang3236
@aaronwang3236 6 лет назад
damn. this will save me $1000, crazy local hvac guy quoted me $1000 for this. thumb up
@Chepesanroman
@Chepesanroman 5 лет назад
Aaron Wang even tho. looks easy its bad for the unit.. i think u can do that maybe twice in the lifetime of the unit
@bowhunter928
@bowhunter928 4 года назад
@@Chepesanroman this is how you pump it down before changing the r22 system out with brand new 410A air handler and condenser.
@Cheez1979
@Cheez1979 4 года назад
You should have paid the guy. $1000 buck to remove then reinstall it’s a great deal.
@BartHull
@BartHull 2 месяца назад
​@@Cheez1979That's insane! I can't even get a guy out to repair a unit. They all want fresh installs at 3K. Just dishonest HVAC guys in Phoenix, AZ.
@1natedoggy
@1natedoggy 2 года назад
Just a suggestion. Get an extension to have easier access to your valves for turning them on and off.
@timsayre8321
@timsayre8321 2 года назад
Get a Service Rachet and You won't need extensions.
@pacoramirez54
@pacoramirez54 4 года назад
Nice job Ben , yes just refreshing my memory , but you need to get a valve port ratchet with a reversible Allen nub, I bought one about 2 years ago and they are a life saver , thanks again brother be safe.
@JnitraM078
@JnitraM078 6 месяцев назад
They work on most gas valves as well to pull the cap to adjust pressure.
@davidg1950
@davidg1950 3 месяца назад
Very clear and easy to follow instructions. I plan on moving my AC condenser about ten feet to put in a deck. My only concern is disconnection and reconnection of the Hi & Low pressure lines. Will I need to vac the lines from the inside & will I need lose any of my R-22 left in the lines or coil? I would Appreciate an answer from anyone who has done this.
@timsayre8321
@timsayre8321 2 года назад
It's Best to Turn The System on At thermostat and Not just rely On Contactor, if You happen to be doing this on a Heat Pump, Most Brands Run In Heat Mode With Just the Contactor Pushed In. It's Just Good Practice. Some Units Will also Have a Blowout Valve That Releases Pressure Back Into The System when It Gets Too High, This Usually Happens about halfway through pump down, If You Get a Sound Like Pressure is being Released don't Flip Out and Just Start closing The large valve. I also crank The Large Valve down About halfway Before I start In case it does blow back I can Close It faster. You may have Freon Left In the lines after That Happens, You will need to 'recover' it Before You can Cut the lines. Also, I have Never had any issue pumping down a r410a system. I've never heard or seen any Manufactures That Warn Against It. I've Done it thousands of Times.
@SpottedEagleOwls
@SpottedEagleOwls 3 года назад
Thanks Benjamin. This is exactly what I want to do
@sabio28
@sabio28 4 года назад
Well done. You explain everything so good.
@dericklowe7513
@dericklowe7513 2 года назад
Thank you I needed a refresher and it’s been a long time since I did this
@evanarcher7083
@evanarcher7083 4 года назад
Right to the point in this video. Love it!
@hunterx8736
@hunterx8736 3 года назад
Liked and subscribed. I am about to go on an install and it’s been over a year since my last install lol
@joel9990
@joel9990 15 дней назад
your kidding me this is exactly what I need you have no idea lol. my 2 ac "friends" didn't tell me this.
@saulsanchez6245
@saulsanchez6245 4 года назад
Thank you. U just saved me a goid chunk of money.
@misapena2825
@misapena2825 5 лет назад
Thanks for the recap . Was very helpful .
@sandeepveeramani
@sandeepveeramani 4 года назад
Thanks for the video. Is it necessary to connect the pressure gauge to the low pressure line? I have a 25 year old condenser that is very very low in refrigerant. Can I not just close the high side and let it run for a minute and then close the suction side? I know it may suck up some air, but the condenser is going to taken to recycling. I will be having an HVAC technician doing the install for a new system. I just want to save some money by removing old HVAC. So I want to clear this space and place the new condenser so that I only pay for the essential services such as flushing the lines, making the electrical connections and soldering the copper piping to get it all started.
@gusvec
@gusvec 7 месяцев назад
Hello, can I still do this without gauges? THANKS.
@charliebrown1449
@charliebrown1449 6 лет назад
Invest in a couple of extensions for your ratchets.
@5822huron
@5822huron 6 лет назад
Marcellous Nabors he needs a service wrench
@BenjaminSahlstrom
@BenjaminSahlstrom 6 лет назад
Most service valves have clear access and the wrenches fit better. Thanks for the smart Alek comment though. I definitely feel better knowing how I can improve. ;)
@alexchorny1
@alexchorny1 5 лет назад
Good job brother. Very helpful video. Shalom!!
@nailasch2187
@nailasch2187 4 года назад
@@BenjaminSahlstrom Ben, Marcellous Nabors is a smart ass and doesn't know you know how to use what you have.
@pineychristian
@pineychristian 3 года назад
Most HVAC techs don't use a ratchet and sockets on ac service valves. He should of use ac service wrench which is designed for HVAC trades people .
@stimfalc
@stimfalc 2 года назад
Thanks! Cool stuff! Could you also show how to let the freon back out into the line?
@telosfd
@telosfd 2 года назад
I like it pal! Asking how can i collect freon from an old ext. unit that is not working any more.
@gridiron2112
@gridiron2112 4 месяца назад
Once that is complete, can the lines be unsweated? Also, is there a place that will evacuate the recovered refrigerant inside the unit? R22
@replayreviews6339
@replayreviews6339 6 лет назад
Just remember. Compressers suck. Close the discharge line off. Let the compressor suck all the Freon into itself. Watch the pressure drop. Once it’s below like 5psi. Close the suction line. AND WEAR GLOVES!
@carlos52321
@carlos52321 8 месяцев назад
That’s all I came here for. Video took forever to get to this part.
@stevehoupt3643
@stevehoupt3643 3 года назад
Good basic instructions, nice job
@dukati3499
@dukati3499 Год назад
Thank you so much, God bless your work .
@rorynelson7548
@rorynelson7548 2 года назад
Exactly what I needed. Thanks so much
@teodorcito
@teodorcito Год назад
Thanks for all your great videos Ben, is it safe to pump the refrigerant into the condenser for the winter season? I have a small leak in the evaporator and every two years I need to add refrigerant. the condenser its a 20 year unit copper lines and the compressor was replaced 7 years ago.
@mikeyder656
@mikeyder656 25 дней назад
Would this process basically be the same for a heat pump?
@VBSPHS
@VBSPHS 4 года назад
Abosuletly awesome!! Thanks a lot for posting.
@emadtubeyou
@emadtubeyou 4 года назад
Thank you was very helpful!
@BenjaminSahlstrom
@BenjaminSahlstrom 4 года назад
My pleasure!
@dachmen
@dachmen 2 года назад
Hey Ben you’re Great thanks for sharing your knowledge God Bless
@adam699
@adam699 2 года назад
Awesome Vid! Is there a way to pump it into an external tank without using an auxiliary compressor?
@w5cdt
@w5cdt 3 года назад
thanks….good straightforward video.
@morehp1
@morehp1 4 года назад
If doing this on a heatpump This should work the same as long as I have the thermostat sit to a/c mode correct?
@user-sl9pt6xm8r
@user-sl9pt6xm8r 4 года назад
Neighbor: Hey, what the hell are you doing to my A/C unit!
@BenjaminSahlstrom
@BenjaminSahlstrom 4 года назад
Ha, exactly!
@user-sl9pt6xm8r
@user-sl9pt6xm8r 4 года назад
@@BenjaminSahlstrom I appreciate the video though, seriously.
@fromanabe8639
@fromanabe8639 5 лет назад
Do you have a video on restarting the system after replacing the evaporator coil? If you're replacing the evaporator coil wouldn't you have to evacuate both the liquid and vapor lines before reconnecting them or opening them to the compressor?
@jaimedpcaus1
@jaimedpcaus1 Год назад
What is the "pump down" used for?
@jasonlivernois4774
@jasonlivernois4774 4 года назад
Great video thanks for sharing 👍🏻
@jscottm99tube
@jscottm99tube Год назад
Awesome videos! Two questions, what do you think of stop leak for a slow leaking 25 year old Trane R22 split system? Can you recommend one? Also, if this won’t work do you have a preference on brand for a new 5 ton unit? Thanks!
@w8what575
@w8what575 5 месяцев назад
Don’t use the stop leak…it ruined my ac unit supposedly….im going to find out one way or another since I’m blacklisted and have to do the bs myself…my exhusbands new wife has influence over the hvac guys in my area and since she’s 500lbs and ugly meaning she’s jealous cuz I’m not a cow even though I don’t want anything to do with my ex lol….stupud idiotic drama
@nailasch2187
@nailasch2187 4 года назад
Ok! Ben did not use a socket extension for this task. He knows that he didn't! There are no awards for reminding Ben to use an extension! He got the job done without an extension, how's that!
@BenjaminSahlstrom
@BenjaminSahlstrom 4 года назад
Thank you!! I love RU-vid comments.
@joshfoyer
@joshfoyer 3 года назад
I’m late to the party but I love this comment. The amount of elitists on RU-vid is so entertaining.
@timsayre8321
@timsayre8321 2 года назад
Real Techs Use Racheting tools made specifically for this task. Never seen a Mechanic Rachet Used. but Ive only been doing this for 22 years.
@phillipcole2540
@phillipcole2540 2 года назад
What not use a service tool that’s made for that?
@ed370zx3
@ed370zx3 Год назад
So I can sawzaw through the copper lines at this point if you were replacing the whole system?
@TJones-ve8wd
@TJones-ve8wd 3 года назад
A great help. Thank you for the excellent info.
@darrenschmitt7479
@darrenschmitt7479 2 года назад
Great Video. I have a unit that the compressor went down and no longer works. How would you do this process without working compressor?
@20X_
@20X_ Год назад
Recovery machine.
@biblebloopers946
@biblebloopers946 3 года назад
I don't recommend pushing in the contractor while doing this unless you first turn on the blower motor inside in order to boil off all the refrigerant in the evaporator otherwise you won't remove all the refrigerant
@HowToDoitright
@HowToDoitright 5 лет назад
Hi thanks for a great video. Question. I had a leak on my system at the dryer filter and all gas 410a leaked. Now I have to fix it and also pull a vacuum. My question is that now how do I pull a vacuum on the entire system including compressor? No one shows that in their videos. People only pull vacuum on the lines with service valves closed. I’ll appreciate any help!
@MrDeviousdom
@MrDeviousdom 5 лет назад
How long was the system at atmospheric pressure? The compressor oil is polyester and hence hydroscopic. Make sure to change the filter dryer and use one as large as you can find if it has been open for more than an hour. Make sure to re-check the filter dryer for temperature differential after the first few hours of operation. Connect the vacuum lines to both ports and make sure that the isolation valves are completely open AND the caps are seated tightly. Use a micron gauge and follow the normal vacuum guidelines. Note: As per most manufacturer's guidelines: Do not unbraze the filter dryer! Cut it from the circuit and install a new one.
@HowToDoitright
@HowToDoitright 5 лет назад
devious dom thank you so much for the guidance. The leak happened about a week and I haven’t had a chance to work on it as it’s been raining and they say not to work on HVAC in rain. I hope the compressor is ok. I checked and there is no gas in the system. When you say isolation valve is open do you mean service port for compressor? So it’s ok to pull vacuum from inside compressor correct?
@MrDeviousdom
@MrDeviousdom 5 лет назад
@@HowToDoitright the two valves at the bottom of the unit where you connect your gauges are the isolation valves. That's also where you pull your vacuum. In your circumstance, you need a good deep vacuum on the entire system including the compressor. Make sure that you use a micron gauge. If you only have 1/4" hoses, expect to leave the pump on for about 4 plus hours, maybe longer (follow micron rating instructions).
@poundermonster
@poundermonster 3 месяца назад
Can I relocate an AC unit condenser without draining the Freon?
@merlingrim2843
@merlingrim2843 3 года назад
Noticed you’re using a digital manifold vacuum meter rather than analog. Just curious. Which do you prefer and why?
@LEONDELASIERRA1
@LEONDELASIERRA1 4 года назад
Thanks dude.
@Hondo1126
@Hondo1126 5 месяцев назад
What are the issues with doing this with unit that has 410a?
@niceday8086
@niceday8086 2 года назад
Great video. Got a question. We have a cracked concrete under the ac unit and needs a replacement. It is removable concrete. If you have two people lifting the ac unit up and one person changing the concrete do you still need to pump down and cutting wires and other stuff that is connected?
@BenjaminSahlstrom
@BenjaminSahlstrom 2 года назад
Yes you should be able to do that as long as you are EXTREMELY CAREFUL to not bend or kink the lineset while doing so.
@niceday8086
@niceday8086 2 года назад
@@BenjaminSahlstrom Got it. Thank you so much.
@niceday8086
@niceday8086 2 года назад
@@BenjaminSahlstrom Sir, got another question. How much do fan guards usually cost? I have carrier ac unit.
@niceday8086
@niceday8086 2 года назад
@@BenjaminSahlstrom We finally got it fixed. We replaced the top part of the ac unit. I don't know why but the technician all of sudden moved the ac unit by few inches. We turned on the ac it worked good, then I asked him if he can move the ac unit back where it was. He said it is not good to do that because it can break the pipe. But I asked to him to do it please because I am thinking all the pipes and lines needs to be in the same place as before. So he did moved it close to where it was. Is this okay? Few inches of movement? I am worried if any pipes or lines are now messed up.
@wyattsmith9791
@wyattsmith9791 2 года назад
What about hooking it back up. I Jsut removed 2 45k btu single zone Mitsubishi units off my garage that’s as only used 2 weeks and I stlling them in my new house. Once it’s all hooked up can I open the lines and run them or have them come purge them
@DesAcetek
@DesAcetek 3 года назад
If its a heating and cooling unit should you run in heating or cooling mode when you do this.
@LionHeart0C
@LionHeart0C 2 года назад
Thank Ben.
@crazychick3n590
@crazychick3n590 3 года назад
How do u put freon back into system just open low side first or the high side
@janedoe8161
@janedoe8161 3 года назад
Do you keep both sides on your gauges closed or open ?
@Swenser
@Swenser 3 года назад
Once pumped down, what pressure should show on gauges. In case I need to check when buying a used pumped down unit.
@jimmcgettigan4826
@jimmcgettigan4826 3 года назад
Great information.👍
@gmcjetpilot
@gmcjetpilot 2 года назад
This vudei is 5 yrs old, I hope you bought some ratchet socket extensions. You clearly need them.
@catagenova7503
@catagenova7503 5 лет назад
much potential in you!
@ivanlopez5686
@ivanlopez5686 Год назад
That's A cool a tip. TY!
@johannadunkowsky8461
@johannadunkowsky8461 Год назад
You need a 3/8" Drive SAE Socket Extension to make your life easier
@supastardagreat
@supastardagreat Год назад
Once pumped down, could I replace Valve stems at this point??
@carlos52321
@carlos52321 8 месяцев назад
Yes
@jcaleca60
@jcaleca60 2 года назад
Good video
@bertoswift1975
@bertoswift1975 2 года назад
Thank you sir
@codysmith9975
@codysmith9975 3 года назад
So can you do this when replacing the system?
@cdf6333
@cdf6333 2 года назад
Thanks a lot! On my R410a mini, the smaller tube is also the liquid line, right?
@masf1977
@masf1977 2 года назад
Yes, Sir.
@chrisaskme811
@chrisaskme811 3 года назад
Great job
@HEPATCA
@HEPATCA 5 лет назад
Thanks for this video. My 32 year old condenser (York 3.5 ton) doesn't appear to have service valves. Rather it has a type of valve that once opened cannot be closed. As the valve plunger is cranked down it shears off an internal plug, thus opening. Ever seen anything like this on a condenser?
@adamleblanc6473
@adamleblanc6473 5 лет назад
Yea get a new one lol
@MrZ28cowboy
@MrZ28cowboy 4 года назад
Thanks
@stevenbarry9983
@stevenbarry9983 3 года назад
Outstanding
@genekerr8064
@genekerr8064 4 года назад
Thank you.
@gusvec
@gusvec Год назад
For how long can keep the freon in the coil?
@Matt2chee
@Matt2chee 2 года назад
Excellent!
@garciamario5436
@garciamario5436 Год назад
Great vid
@AnonymousBandit617
@AnonymousBandit617 5 месяцев назад
U the man
@phuongdo2603
@phuongdo2603 4 года назад
thanks is very have full
@bowtome3378
@bowtome3378 6 лет назад
do I remove the clip thingy before doing this or just turn off the power . I forgot it's been years
@mathewbarnes1756
@mathewbarnes1756 6 лет назад
When you connect your line to the service port you should have purged the air out on the other end. Now that system has a line full of air in it with the refrigerant that you can't get out
@BenjaminSahlstrom
@BenjaminSahlstrom 6 лет назад
Mathew Barnes Great thought. My hoses likely already had R22 in them but to be 100% certain you would want to bleed them first. Thanks for your comment!
@mikemc8495
@mikemc8495 5 лет назад
300 min
@OQureshii
@OQureshii 2 года назад
Purge where and how?
@adnanlimited
@adnanlimited 2 года назад
What do you do to put the frion back in the system. Do you just open the valves and turn on the AC ?
@bdriver3683
@bdriver3683 5 лет назад
I don’t suppose you have a video for getting the refrigerant back in to the system from the compressor. I have had my system pumped down so I could move it, now I have reinstalled the system I need to “pump up” the system (I guess you would call it) to get it back working again. Many thanks
@dreamerdan7492
@dreamerdan7492 4 года назад
I would imagine just reopening both the high and low side? Remember he closed the high completely and partially closed the low before the pump and then closed it off after. Now both are closed. So to restart would be to reopened both, wait a bit or turn the system on and off a couple times until circulation is back? Just guessing bro. If you found the answer plz let me know.
@hppowell6694
@hppowell6694 5 лет назад
Super-Thanks
@kevinferrell1739
@kevinferrell1739 5 лет назад
I have a 2000 Jeep Cherokee i ride and a parts jeep 96 Cherokee Country. Ok My ac compressor locked up on the 2000 . it wasnt working and was making funny noise b4 it finely locked up. So i knew the one in the 96 was good so i took the 96 off but the lines attach different on the 2000. where they go in the main back on the 96 and on the top of the 2000. So i changed the back out so i could use my 2000 lines etc. I put new oil 4 oz. ruffly maybe a little more and it took the oil fine but will not take the freon. I paid a guy 25 bucks to have it vacuumed and had no leaks but it still wont take freon. could a bad AC pressure switch cause it not to take freon or maybe the condenser is stopped up when the compressor locked up and iit got metal in the condenser and stopped it from taking freon or what... Im at a lost and dont have much money...but I need my ac bad. i have a hard time breathing when i get really hot... So all help appreciated...
@obodude71
@obodude71 3 года назад
What if the unit isn't working?
@rodgerdodger2999
@rodgerdodger2999 5 лет назад
If the condenser has a small leak can you pump the refrigerant to the evaporator and close it off for a repair to the condensor?
@SnickasBah
@SnickasBah 5 лет назад
I don;t think so. There aren't shut off valves at the coil in residential usually.
@joshdavis2064
@joshdavis2064 4 года назад
No you need to recover the refrigerant and then carry out the repairs. Then reconnect everything, vac the pipes the recharge with refrigerant
@jcchrism
@jcchrism 5 лет назад
Thank you
@Corney-wj9pj
@Corney-wj9pj 3 месяца назад
good video, you need me to send you a 3/8 extension?😄
@whitehousetexas
@whitehousetexas 2 года назад
You’re so awesome.
@giulioluzzardi7632
@giulioluzzardi7632 Год назад
More safety , keep the site clean cos your eyes can see all sorts of weirdness in dim light. Well done though, Cool!
@tptm100
@tptm100 3 года назад
hey Ben, I have a scroll compressor on an older R22 Lennox. Can you pump down a scroll and then thers a low pressure cutoff, how do you get around that? Model HS 25 411P Thanks
@JP-zz5rm
@JP-zz5rm 2 года назад
You would have to use a recovery machine and recovery cylinder to recover the rest of the refrigerant .
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