I resigned from an extremely toxic work situation. Wrote a professional letter giving my 2 weeks notice being the "nice" one. Boss treated me like absolute crap those last 2 weeks. I did not realise it could get any worse than it already was. I screamed in my car on the way out that last day. Sometimes being nice does not mean a thing
Happened to me too. I knew my manager would have a hell of a time replacing me for that job and he made sure to let me know just how difficult I was making things for him. I could have quit with a day's notice and it would have made absolutely no difference to me, giving my two weeks was purely for their benefit and he still gave me crap for it.
I was in a similar situation years ago, but I was unable to finish out my two weeks because my boss made my life a living hell after I gave my notice. I don't regret it as I needed to protect my mental health.
I found in toxic situations, you privately plan your last day and hand in/email/BCC your letter on the way out. I did my letter and emailed it in the last 15 minutes of my shift. Nothing left in my desk as it was slowly moved out over time
Exactly. But have a financial cushion set up, if possible. I quit my previous job, because my boss* was toxic, I was about to go crazy from all the stress and the pay was far from worth staying. That's the truth, most bosses objectively suck, this is why we leave them, not for this rose-colored "I found a better opportunity for my family" BS. 😆
@@em0_tion Nothing like margin to level the ground. For the first time in my life, I finally have margin. It's so nice. I do not feel afraid of my bosses anymore. They will not have that kind of power over me again.
I have loved giving 2 weeks' notice to employers where I've had a bad experience. It's taking the moral high road and nothing freaks out management more than having an employee wandering around the office for 2 whole weeks they can no longer control with sticks or carrots. The extra 2 weeks of pay is nice- but the fear in your former boss's eyes is priceless.
Most bad bosses won't want you sticking around. They've lost control over you, and your example to other employees causes them anxiety and fear that other employees will realize that they don't have to take their $hit. Frankly, too many middle and floor level managers are just bullies and assholes. That's the qualities that got them their position in the first place.
I don't know about your jurisdiction but up here in Canada unless you are fired for cause the company is required to provide up to 8 weeks notice plus severance when they let you go. Of course you have to have been with the company more than 4 years to get any more than two weeks. Most companies pay the notice instead of having you work the notice period.
In India, usually notice period is usually 2 months or 3 months, for MNCs. Excluding startups and small companies. On being fired, advance base salary has to be paid. Still, attrition rates in IT industry is high in India
I’ve walked of the job before. Supervisor kept comparing my work to someone else and telling me how crappy I am despite getting same results. He tried to threaten me with a good time by telling me if I can’t cut it to leave. I did. He shouted at me on the way out. Then told any new potential employers I stole from their job.
I gave an employer 5 months notice I was leaving, and after I left, they recorded it as being fired anyway and were telling every new employer I was fired. I don't know how this kind of shit is legal, and even if it is not legal, the damage is already done.
I'd contact an attorney, at minimal file a complaint with the local labor department. No reputable company would risk being this reckless concerning former personnel but a petty person with H.R. responsibilities just may be; never a win for business.
@@bonniebunny25 I was never getting callbacks from any other application. Almost a year of applying. I then hired an agency to investigate the responses the previous employer was giving by posing as a new potential employer. It is likely that saying I was fired probably nixed any new job in that field I applied to. Employers in the education field don't typically give you a reason why they would reject you. Most of the time, they don't even respond to an application at all. Been about 10 years now and It's pretty much a dead career.
My old boss is still around but passed off his oversight of my department. I told him to fuck off about a week ago when he's in my office during break time creating a bunch of unnecessary noise. Felt great. Needless to say I hardly got a warning because everyone above him knows how he is. He must have been told to fuck off by them too because he doesnt bug me as much! :D
I don't know about that. Oftentimes you leave a company purely for compensation and promotion reasons and to advance your career, not because you don't like your current job. And say it required moving to another city. One day you might want to move back to your hometown to start to settle and take back a job at a company you enjoyed working at in the past.
This is with what I've been struggling with. I got fired from my previous work not because I was bad or for a bad relationship with my boss/coworkers, but because the pandemic made them cut employees and I was one of them... But also because I told my boss that I was planning to study abroad but this plan wasn't concrete due to... Well, covid stuff and a lot of places being closed in 2020. So now I can see my mistake of telling him 2 months ahead about my plan. Now, 8 months later, I wasn't able to leave and haven't been able to get a new job and a lot of friends and family have been telling me to reach back again with my previous boss about re hire me and.... I don't want that. Yeah of course I need the money but also I feel like I've already learned all that I could've learn from there, also I still want to find an opportunity to study/work overseas and my prev boss now knows that, I won't be a reliable asset for them. Despite explaining this to my family, they're still insisting me to talk to my boss about this :( I want to move forward but it seems like there's no new opportunities ahead of me, I'm so tired...
I GAVE THEM 3 WEEKS NOTICE and the President tried talking me out of it. He was so pissed off that I wouldn't stay. He told me that he was firing me and that day was my last day. No problem, the other company I had already accepted a job with just moved up my start date. FYI - I had told my old boss/president that his company would close within a year. He laughed at me. I was wrong, it was 10 months when the company closed for good. 🤣
I was recently let go from a full time 🚓 , patrol security-sgt job. The funny part was the SAME firm, security site 🏘 had 3, three other security patrol officers in around 3mo. The last guy I spoke with gave a 2wk notice. 🗣
in Canada apparently you do legally have to give "reasonable notice" when you're quitting your job, or else its possible to be sued by your employer plus its not good to ruin prior relationships with at least other coworkers since the world isn't that big and you may encounter them in the future again
@@jeremyk5310 "Reasonable notice" is an extremely subjective and shady term. You should have listed in your contract, black on white, what the notice period id, and give exactly that, no more, no less.
Even if you leave "gracefully", your employer still might hold a grudge. Don't worry about burning bridges, that's usually an overblown worry, in my opinion,
It does depend on your field and your location, I think. I work in a legal field that is pretty small in my area, I’d hate to burn a bridge because it would come up if I tried to find another quality job in that field of practice, because everybody knows everybody. I actually follow this channel because I’m at the start of making a switch and I can use all the advice I can get lol
My aunt had an amazing executive job at BP and cussed her boss off on the way out. She hasn't been able to find a job in the oil and gas industry eversince and this happened around 2009. True story.
I think it depend on the person, if you boss still hold a grudge even if you leave gracefully, it is his/her problem. Their actions speak for themself.
I worked at chipotle during summers between college, and one day a coworker of mine walks into the restaurant, proceeded to set up his amp and guitar, and he sings at the top of his lungs, electric guitar blasting, “CHIPOTLE, I QUIIIIIIIIIIIT”. It was a fantastic moment IMO ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I mean a Chipotle reference won't really matter in your longterm career path, especially if you graduate college lol. But it's a personality thing. When I quit my job at Dunkin' Donuts they bought cake and threw a farewell party. Left on good terms, won't need their reference unfortunately :(
My idol is the airline flight attendant who announced that he quit, popped the door, and slid down the inflatable slide. And all the passengers cheered when he did it...nobody was scared or complained. He also did a very good job with his homework because there was a loophole for everything that the company tried to get him arrested for. Even the slide was scheduled to be replaced at the end of the flight so he broke no laws there either.
To me, it never mattered. Even when I left a decent job on good terms, they still did a 180 and lied to potential new employers and said I skipped work and was sick all the time - which was 100% untrue. Remember, no one is your friend. It's all still high school. I completely agree with what you suggest about being cordial but very discreet. Regardless of what the employer does/says about it now or in the future, at least you know that you were the professional person. I have no references but I don't care because I'm changing careers and I'm sick of being a secretary.
I disagree with your logic on notice. Your household is a business which balances income and expense to create a profit (savings). When a company terminates you without notice it throws your personal business (home) into the same chaos you encourage an outgoing employee to avoid when leaving of their own accord. Maintaining relationships for future endeavors is a two way street employers need to recognize.
An employer has no problem firing you on 2 seconds notice. Where you find another job is nothing they give a damn about. If they fail to keep promises they used to entice you into accepting a job, and/or are part of a toxic workplace environment, you fire them and move on with your life. They do not all deserve a notice.
There is no "dream" job. A job is a job. There is no job that you rather do over being retired with loads of money and free to do other meaningful, fulfilling things
Exactly. My college professor told me I was wrong when I told him this in regards to Universal Basic Income and how that could lead to lower-tier workers becoming unproductive
@@dutchmaster1999 I believe individual people would actually be more skilled and productive, because they don't work to live but rather because they find enjoyment in a fulfilling task. Also Universal Basic Income is only meant to support your livelihood, meaning without working you won't have a lot of money for a house, car, hobbies or luxury items meaning people won't lose the drive to work but rather feel less stressed since they know they won't starve on the streets riddled with preventable diseases* due to a blunder made by either them or the company they work for. From personal experience, since I don't work 40h/week as I can easily get by with less money** and I don't have many expensive hobbies to spend money on, I can say that as a result I feel much more motivated to work when I go to work than when I worked full-time in the past. Also it's not like the company I work for is less productive due to me not working full-time, the time I don't work someone else does. * obviously a hyperbole (at least outside the USA) ** still more than some people who work full-time for lower wages
This is kind of true and kind of not. You cant live for your job: what if you get fired or your company goes bankrupt? But you could have a desire to, say, help with the environment and being a branding expert allows you to work towards that goal. Not the job specifically but the fact that its an option that lets you do what you like.
It seems like most employers are on the same team.I’ve worked for some very dishonest employers.They don’t want you to lie to them but they want you to lie to customers.The best thing to do is start your own business!😄
If ur waiting on a background check, you should know what's gonna pop up on it and if it's gonna flag you as ineligible or not. Your fault not the employer's
@@SubtlySimple ideally, but it’s not so easy as you can’t do a background check on yourself. What the my decide to flag can be anything and everything they want. It’s not transparent at all.
@@SubtlySimple depends. If it's a criminal background check you will generally know if you have been convicted of anything. But there are other security checks, and they may be checking your credit and references. You might not know who will stab you in the back.
I've had a few colleagues over the years who gave no notice. They left a resignation letter on their desk on a Friday before they left and never showed up again. It struck me as unprofessional and as you pointed out, it sometimes left the team in a lurch. That said, I've seen the opposite happen. In fact, it happened to me once. I gave my two weeks notice and was told to clear out my desk that day. I did get paid for the two weeks, so I got a free two week vacation.
In the Mental Health field, I have seen all types of ways people have quit. These are Clinical positions requiring a licensure so it's not normally protocol to stay for 2 weeks after you've handed in your resignation letter unless they are desperate and need you to stay. In some situations, I have seen people walk out. In others, they stayed for 2 additional weeks. One of my last positions, I received 2 paid weeks when I submitted my LOR. That was literally the best situation possible.
Yeah....depending on the job you hold.....and depending on what kind of proprietary material you have access to...they MAY get your ass out of the office as soon as possible.
I have worked in either Children's mental health or with veterans my professional career so far and I have given my two weeks notice at all of them except one that I left immediately (one was actually almost 3 weeks notice due to the timing of certain things in my professional and personal life). In mental health I think it is almost unprofessional NOT to give a two weeks notice because of the obligation you have to the clients you are working with. Just because I had issues with the organization I worked for doesn't mean that I want to screw over my clients I was helping to access resources and all were thankful that I didn't just up and leave as they had people do in the past and they were able to have some closure as did I.
@limelight81 Oh man....when layoff day came (there were 75 people including myself), they took me in the room, told me I was laid off (I almost could NOT contain my joy and elation), and THEN told me I would have to stay ANOTHER 3 months IF I wanted severance (which was 39 weeks - I had been there for 28.5 years). THAT'S when I got pissed.....and so did about 60% of the other people who got it that day...Eventually those 3 LONG months did pass (it wasn't fun having to endure that) and I finally got my severance....and then did NOTHING for 39 weeks but drink beer and get fat. And yes, l loved every damn minute of it. It was like a "pseudo-retirement"... Am I working now - yes I am. Started looking after about 1.5 months AFTER the severance was done...
My two cents: 1) NEVER tell where you are going to work next. I’ve witnessed people being jeopardised, the current company calling the future company, and they ended up unemployed. 2) as a boss I’d always ask for the minimum time to handover the tasks of the leaving employee to his/her colleagues. It’s not healthy for the group to have someone who’s so happy he/she is leaving that other employees will start sending resumes so they can follow him/her.
Company policy in my current job (and I have 2 days left before I start my new job) is that if the employee is not willing to name the new employer then they are terminated immediately and paid out the full notice period. In my case, that would have been 3 months salary. However, it would have been unprofessional so we agreed 1 month notice so that I could do a neat handover. I lost a lot of money by doing it that way but I am leaving the team in a much better position. I am OK with that.
@@daktaklakpak5059 But your suggestion is not grammarly correct... The slash separates 2 options so in order to achieve your suggestion, the correct way would be "(s)he"
I saw this video maybe when you first released it and I never forgot your words. Today I shared it with my fiancé who finds herself all of a sudden after submitting her two weeks notice being promised the stars and the moon. It is truly an insult to be told “we have no money for raises, you can’t work remote…” to “whatever you want we need you!!!” Where was that energy when she was asking for it!? Thank you for helping us.
One of my friends resigned a job on a 6 month notice period. He refused to say where he was going, so the employer assumed he was off to a competitor and made him stay at home (paid of course). He wasn't going to a competitor, but fancied spending the time at home rather than at work.
I accepted a job offer, however the communication was so poor in regards to start date and other specifics that I decided to resign the position without even stepping foot at the location. I reached out to corporate and my supposed supervisor a few days before starting to ask some questions because I had dates I would be out of the state. No response to my texts and two days passed. During that time, I already had other standing offers and decided to move on. It was literally that easy. I explained to the HR rep for the company that I saw red flags and would not be working for them going forward. I have one week free before I start my new position with another agency. Communication is important during the hiring process and they lost a great employee because of that.
Yea it's good to apply at multiple jobs because you never know if they lie to you just like in my case I haven't had a job in 1 week now fue to their lying scamming ways in tge interview to make that company seem real good wgwn it wasn't
When I left Nestle I gave 6 months notice then a 45 day reminder, than a 2 week reminder. I was still treated like crap, and giving notice was not appreciated.
Years ago I started a job the day after a long time employee resigned. There was an elaborate party set up. Venders provided sandwiches, one provided a soft serve ice cream machine making sundaes, one brought cakes and pies, one had a hot taco bar set up, it was very elaborate. I was meeting everyone and enjoying the free lunch and then I asked about the woman who was leaving, I'd like to meet her. I was told she had left the day before. I asked if she was coming back for the farewell luncheon and was abruptly informed, " This ISN'T a farewell party, it's a THANK GOD SHE'S GONE PARTY." Even the company venders hated her that they celebrated her exit. I always made sure when I left a job that I'd be missed, not my exit to be celebrated.
Actually quit a job by emailing my boss the video of “Office Space” where the mAin character says “I. Don’t like my job so I don’t think I’m gonna go anymore.”
I give two weeks notice except with situations that were safety issues. One job I quit immediately and got the Cops there two days later. If it's a safety issue, don't worry about being polite. Just go. Your safety and well-being come first.
Exactly : safety issue, health first. I’m not setting foot back in there after a fire. It’s not my job to clean it up. Hard to give two weeks notice when the place is literally too toxic to walk in. Others may stay but I’m already sick from it.
I do security 🚓 . In Florida, it's a licensed-regulated business. 2yr licenses, policy-uniform standards, fees $. You by FS493 can NOT leave or quit, walk out. You can be relieved, let go by a mgr(security business not client or random supervisor).
I'm assuming you're from the US, because in every single other developed country, (unless you got cought stealing, beat up a coworker, etc) the answer to that is ABSOLUTELY YES. Actually, even longer than that.
2 weeks notice these days, especially with an "at-will" employer, should be treated as a courtesy, not an obligation. Some of these employers will specifically say on their application that are at-will and don't even have to notify you at all if you're fired, let alone provide two weeks. So you show up to work one day and find that your office is cleaned out or the locks have changed, not even a phone call. Employers like that are not entitled to a minute's notice. If you find something better, just jump ship and go for it. When they treat loyalty as a one-way street, they should expect what they dish out.
exactly. literally the exact reason i never give notice. i will either leave mid shift at the most Inconvenient time or just not even show up and let them eventually figure out on their own because at the end of the day that's why managers get paid the big bucks right
@@billywayne6104 You can do that at small retail jobs but at degree jobs/trades that will absolutely tarnish your reputation if done consistently. Kiss your future job opportunities good bye if thats what you plan to keep doing
I disagree to ask your boss if you can return if you don’t like your new job. You are leaving for a reason and made the decision due to some issues at the current job. That will not go away if you return. Never look back and go back to a former job position, you will not be valued for returning. It’s like egg on your face for trying to have the gall to leave their “fantastic “ workplace. It’s different if you rejoin the organization in a new department. Otherwise move forward and never look back! 🤷🏾♀️
I think that depends how the employer threat the employees. 15 years at a company that started to take our benefits because "there were a bad economic situation". I gave my notification one week before quiting when i had my first job in the USA. Leaving an open door door with my last employer in Puerto Rico, is like trying to return with my toxic abusing ex girlfriend.
Perfect analogy! A job is a lot like having a marriage. The courtship is when they are convincing you to sign on with them, they even took me out to dinner, then they make an offer, that's the proposal down on one knee, then you sign the marriage license that HR give you to sign, then there's the honeymoon, then the first fight, then the divorce. LOL
I once worked at a company where someone literally went to lunch one day and never showed back up. Her department was asking everyone if we've seen her or knew what may have happened.
I did 🏦 security, complex with 100s of employees: 24-07 with a avg security staff of 9-16 officers. 1995-1998. My co workers & I lost count of the pant loads & nitwits that would do 2hr, 4hr, 8hr OJT then dip out... 🏃🏻 ... some thought it was dull, some said it was too much data, SOPs, rules.
I seen alot of people give notice and they were told leave that day. It goes both ways. I guess some Bosses get mad when people find different jobs. You know how it goes.
if you give 2 weeks notice but the employer says don't come in, are you entitled to 2 weeks pay or even severance? I don't think employers are allowed to just cut people off without notice like that except in extreme situations, even when the employee said he/she would quit? anyone know?
@@jeremyk5310 The employees tried to file complaints with unemployment, and they were told nothing they can do. The employers can do this. I am posting this as educational purposes only.
Happened to me at my last job, but I had access to engineering drawings so I understood why they preferred to just part ways at the end of that day. The VP of engineering asked me to do an exit interview and I politely declined. Was escorted out and a week later I got paid two weeks for the vacation time I still had. A lot of people can get bent out of shape with this stuff but keep it professional. Nothing good happens after you make an ass out of yourself.
@@jeremyk5310 Texas is a hire/fire at will state. I started the discussion with my last employer about me moving to another company and they fired me that day. They did that to just about anybody I ever knew there. It worked out great. I had a two week vacation before my new job.
@@bucketofsteam9260 I had a pretty similar situation when I left my previous employer. They had started letting people at my level leave and get paid through the two weeks if they were going to a competitor. I told the truth and said ... Not going to a competitor but I don't want to say where ... They told me the next morning I would get the two weeks paid and I was free to go. Everyone ended on decent terms.
My biggest advice to people is to *ALWAYS* leave on good terms. I always try to accommodate my boss, give them as much heads up as possible, close the projects, etc. You never know how what you do on your last days is going to help or harm you in the future. I have landed at least two well paying jobs based on information that followed me from one of people who have observed how I closed things when I was leaving. I have some of my past bosses pinging me from time to time asking in hopes I change my mind. You might not need it today but it is always nice to know you have somebody to call and get a job on a moments notice. And you might not be thinking about it when you start the career, but as you age and advance the world gets smaller, the circle of people you meet gets smaller and more connected and you don't want your career ruined based on some stupid thing you did when you left that one job that you didn't really like and you have completely forgot about.
So much fear, this train of thought is only the current consciousness that we all have been programmed too. Have an abundance mind set and create your own conscious reality. Do not fear your boss or tip toe your every move....
@Appletini iBake its a way to make sure nothing back fires against you when you have nothing to gain from storming out but potential to screw yourself over
Unless you have special skills or credentials, the occupational world is NOT abundant. The fear, while sometimes overblown, is based in real experiences. Employers in America have nearly all the leverage in most interactions for most people.
There are "career occupations", and then there are jobs. The work world isn't made up of only career positions. And many people fill these jobs. These are the people that employers abuse the most.
Yeah, my current ex-boss acts a fool and doesn't even say hi to me in public, unless he's with his family, because he's gotta look like a great guy in front of them, I guess. 🙄🤣 While the one before him even tried to poach me back with a better job offer, but ofc I refused, "Fool me once..." But he's very vindictive, especially towards customers, one of the main reasons I left. Even refused to pay me half a paycheck at the end, STILL worth it for not seeing him ever gain. 🙏 Greatest decision of my life! 💪
The way I see it is if you already took an offfer on a new job and you are sure you're not going back to that employer, why bother with a 2 week notice? They dont give you a notice if they fire you..
If its a horrible job than and you wont come back no matter what and you know you wont need them as a reference, dont bother. If not, do it as a curtesy. Remember, this video is from the prospective of an HR professional.
be a man. thank your boss. shake their hand and move on. you dont owe your boss another second of your life and viseversa. no sob stories. as long as you do that i think no need for 2 weeks. ive seen short and long term employees get over worked and/or not treated the same their last 2 weeks. 2 week notice overrated.
Potential employers don't really care if you're actively employed or not. I quit several jobs with no prospects. I applied to many jobs after and I was able to show stability (5+ years) which did catch their eye, Second was experience which I had. When it came down to the question of why I left my previous employer, I sat up straight and simply said poor communication from a management that utilized scare tactics as incentives which was all true but I did not elaborate as that would have been finger pointing. They liked my honesty, saw my skill sets and never had issues getting hired.
Pro Tip: if you plan to resign or quit, give notice. Do it on the last day of the pay period/pay week. You can get a final full 10 day, 80hr check rather than 2-4 days, shorter if the owner, supervisor says you can leave sooner.
I left a toxic job in the most spectacular way and to this day, people still talk about me like I was a legend there. I said what everyone was thinking and didn’t sugarcoat any of it. Best part, it not only didn’t burn any bridges, it actually opened a few doors of opportunity for me because I apparently got a lot of respect for having the guts to do what everyone else was terrified to do. After that day, no one messed with me or tried any toxic behavior around me because they all knew I would not tolerate it and will call them out to everyone. I’ve also quit a couple jobs without a 2 weeks notice because they didn’t deserve it. All my work went directly to my supervisor and not to any of coworker since we all did completely different kind of work that wasn’t interchangeable. That also has never backfired. When I leave like this, it’s because I have absolutely no desire to ever work there again or with any of those people should they go to another company so I have nothing to lose by leaving in a spectacular way. 😊 No regrets.
I have mostly had bosses who had no idea what I even did there, they have usually been spiteful bullies and narcissists, they spent most of their time either trying to prevent me and other employees from doing our jobs or trying to drive us to quit, and they didn't accept a 2-week notice when given. This experience has taught me that if it comes time to quit again, then I'm just going to leave. They don't need to know why. They can figure it out when they drive off more people or get in legal trouble. Once I'm gone, it's not my problem anymore. An employer like that is certainly not going to give me a good reference, so why bother.
My place is so toxic, people quit the same week they start. One even quit with a sticky note. Yeah. They punish 2 weeks notices so there is no incentive.
If the job is toxic and you're not binded by law/contract there is no obligation to give 2 weeks. If your mental health is suffering and you have a backup job go ahead and leave when you think it's time. You may not get a payout but that's for you to decide whether it's worth holding on for or not. Depending on your career field it may or may not go as smooth but sometimes you have to put your mental health first.
I'm my country, you have to give 3 months notice. So going out with a bang can be unpleasant in those last 3 months. But yeah, I'm leaving a toxic environment where I was treated badly. I'm planning to leave with grace... These were good tips.
@@ALifeAfterLayoff you and employer can agree to end sooner but generally the 3 months is respected by both parties. I don't actually know what would happen if a person just stormed out. Your new employer also respects it and realise they have to wait.
Yeah we have to give 3 months notice too which is reeediculous! It's meant to make moving into another job difficult for you. Meant to be a trap. We have to give up two months salary in lieu of notice I believe. Really crappy. Third World living!
You just give all around good life advise, that can be used in many avenues of interpersonal relationships. I love that you come from the position of personal power, integrity, grace, and dignity. 4 traits that have always served me well. Excellent work man. Thank you for sharing this all with us.
If you quit your job because your boss was toxic, will you lie to me that you "found a better opportunity for your family"? Is that lie considered "grace and integrity"?
That's what I did. I have a slight nest egg to fall back on. I've had 8 bad-ending jobs in 5 years. With toxic supervisors, co-workers, & where they basically treat you so horrible you get fired/or quit, or where they cut your hours down to nothing to get rid of you. At 57, I'm too old for this "he said/she said bullsh*t that is so frigging a total waste of my time.
Some companies care others don't. Some companies will fire a person who gives a 2 week notoce before thats up while at the same time try to persuade others from quitting who say they want to quit. This guy who hosts the channel is very opinionated and appears to have a lot of black and white thinking but the amount of variation we encounter from employers is tremendous. He is in the end I think giving a recruiters point of view, their agenda, more than the average joe or jane.
I have to disagree with you about the 2-week notice. I agree, a job doesn't think about you when they fire you. They will not give you a 2-week notice. They do not think about the other employees when they let you go, why should you care? I worked for a place that would do inventory twice a year. If they were planning on letting someone go, they would make sure that that person worked inventory (the worst day to work there) and then fire them the next day. Maybe I am jaded though.
My company let's you go immediately when you give notice. They don't pay your pto or honor the 2 weeks pay when they kick you out. Im quitting as soon as I come from vacation and right after we get our bonus.
When I quit my last job, with an extremely toxic and unqualified boss, I did exactly what you said: said that I had a great opportunity elsewhere, and I would stay 2 more weeks to "help her", thanking her profusely. But on the inside I wanted to punch her in the face, of course I didn't do it, especially because she could make resigning really hell for me (and still, she tried).
Brian, thank you so much for this video. I followed it to the T with leaving my current employer. I didn't say a whisper about the new gig to anybody, and disclosed my intentions in a meeting with my direct manager and my CEO. They asked me about who should take my role, and I surprised them by telling them I had already trained two people to fill it. Both my boss and my CEO were references for my position at the new company, and the door is open if I want to return.
The same fortune 500 companies that want two weeks notice for you to leave, also don't give two F's about laying off people and immediately having security escort them out so that you never get to see your former co-worker again.
I just sent a text saying, "I can't do this anymore. Thanks for hiring me." That was the end of it, and I no longer give a shit how it makes my resume look. I'm sick of capitalism, it's a shell game.
I just handed my badge and keys, told them the company is not aligned to my values as I previously thought and this is my last day and walked saying Goodbye. I had to leave for my mental health and reputation. This company cheated results on products so they could send them out to clients to get paid. If you do things by the book there for end user protection, they bully/harrass you with constructive dismissal. So I walked. I am lucky I have savings to fall on. Plus, I have another job lined up. You are right, move in silence and remember, HR IS NOT YOUR FRIEND!
If it's a seriously bad job: When you have a confirmed start date: Schedule a meeting and start it with the phrase: [boss's name], I got something very funny to tell you. [confused pause] Well, let's start off by going over the list of projects which I have going on, where we are on each of these, and and some key meeting notes from each of these with you and [name of person to pass these off to]. Let's schedule time to go through these in detail so [person ...] is well prepared to take over all this in two weeks. Please let me know if you have any questions or anything I can help with.
I did that with 1 job I had and they wasted the 2 weeks. They brought someone over to handle my job (a gigantic complicated $525 million project) on my very last day and I told them that it would be pointless...which is why I had been telling them to give me someone to train for almost 2 weeks. I ended up being able to give the guy a rough outline of what the project was and tell him that everything is in the files and my business emails.
BTW, the old adage that it's easier to find a job when you already have one is false. It can be just as hard, if not harder, to find a job when you already have one.
Depends? Its a lot more relaxing to look for a job while I know I have a paycheck to cover the bills. You also don't have to explain why you aren't working during interviews for the new job. Unemployment in my career field is a major issue if you can't justify it. I do agree it is exhausting and feels like a second job, just to find a job. ha ha ha
Especially when the manager is always on your ass and wants you to request time off weeks in advance and know what you’re doing, it’s brutal. There’s no way to go to interviews.
They both have pros and cons. When you have a job, you must use much of your spare time finding jobs which is tiring. Sometimes you must get time off work in order to do so. When you don't have a job, you have much more time but you also have to explain to everyone why you aren't working. If you are only out of work for a few months it's fine but otherwise it starts to get harder.
I always refuse to use a printer till the day I quit. At my last job I used the printer the first time after 8 years in this company. A coworker walked by and asked "time has come?". I just confirmed with a "yes". Then I printed my official document that I quit.
The 2 weeks notification depends too how your your environment workplace is. Because is the boss and co-worker are toxic people, i don't going to care of them.
Hi. Some things to consider: In some cases employees are subjected to workplace mobbing by management and coworkers combined. Some tactics include being excluded from important meetings or emails, humiliation, verbal abuse is so severe that the employee has no other choice but to leave immediately. In that case it is management/coworkers that put the targeted individual in a lurch (extremely unprofessional) and not the other way around. Sometimes management has malicious intent and does not care how they treat people. Well actually they do care to treat employees like ROBOTS. What if entire management is narcissistic(gaslighting,doesn’t listen, abuse power, kicks subordinates down while kissing up to their boss). It is destructive to employees. you have narcissistic leaders no amount of “talking” is going to do anything because you would be talking to a “wall”. So do you offer to stay through the transition when the employERS
Thx for the tips...please address making sure 401, insurance and belongings are in order. Ex, how to get personal items from your desk and return computers etc if you've been WFH for over a year...
So this is how this generation does it now? Passive aggressive sissy quitting? Maybe it’s just me but I always am straight forward at all times with my bosses and employees and co workers. This way when it’s time to go or if something happens there’s no question as to how I feel. They will know immediately what I stand for and what I won’t stand for. None of this trying to be buddies after they screw me over and trying to be a punk and run back to a company because I ran away and have to run back. I’d rather be jobless even though this would never happen to me, I’d rather be without a job than to come groveling back for my old job that I clearly left because they sucked. I wish more people were like me and said what they felt. Guys don’t be like this. Be real.
My stance is to give the company the same amount of notice they'd give me which is zero unless I just want to get a few extra days of pay. I'm not worried about the other employees. It's JUST a job.
Twice quit jobs on the spot ! First one as a driver , delivering supplies to restaurants and anyplace that needed fresh produce or food supplies, non CDL driver, the second time i was handed a route with a truck requiring a CDL license And i was not a CDL driver . I got angry and went and gathered my belongings and clocked out without saying a word to anyone, went directly home and called my lawyer and the unemployment office, Second job was working the weekend shift for a few years and the company discontinued it, choices were days, 5 days a week or nights 5 nights a week. I choose days and worked 4 days , got my annual review on thursday from a supervisor that didn't even know me. A cheap azz raise and that was all it took. Punched the clock and never looked back. Got a call begging me to come back. Nope , not a chance ! Next job was finally a good one and my best earnings ever !
I retired after over 30 years at the same place. It had gotten bad and the opportunity presented itself to take a early no penalty retirement. I took it and never looked back.
@@isambo400 Oh they tried making it as they went. I mean making it mandatory overtime, taking my computer access away and then getting mad at me for not being able to do my job, switching me between three different teams and then threatening me with a corrective action memo. All in the last 2 months I was there. I just walk away and go hide. It really did not matter to me as there was light at the end of the tunnel my retirement.
You can give 2 weeks notice but in most cases your current employer will have you out the door immediately. If you have to worry about failing a drug test, you may have other problems that you need to address like surprise, a drug problem.
you are missing the most important part, how to obtain all the info when quitting like 401k, health insurance etc... it means you need to always be aware of that stuff when. you are not arising suspicions
I was cracking up when you talked about the "F off" and kicking the plant over. I did do something like that as a teenager (long story). Every job I have left as an adult I have tried to do it exactly as you mentioned in your video. I absolutely think you have laid it out perfectly. Based upon experiences I have learned never burn bridges, never really tell people what really happened. You never know if you're going to come back; you never know if they might be a reference; you just NEVER KNOW. I also so agree with not telling anyone or giving too much info. It has served me so well over the years. This may be your most excellent video yet (and all your videos rock!).
Hmm -- most of these comments seem to be based on leaving jobs on really bad terms. I've generally left jobs on good terms, and, as a result, I ended up working extra-hard during my notice period to leave things in a good state...
Only give your 2 weeks notice if you can afford to not have a paycheck for that pay period (always stockpile some savings) before starting your new job, a lot of companies will fire you on the spot if you give a notice, so if that's your company, then just cut bait when you need to leave and get that extra paycheck. Companies (like Amazon for example) that don't respect 2 week notice means you don't have to either, especially in the states with "At Will" employment (most states)
Our company has it in the employee handbook that, depending on your position, you're required to give 2 to 4 weeks notice. I feel like it hamstrings you for your next job. The the place wants you asap...but if you can't leave the old place for a month or more then the new place might consider someone who can start faster...
Yeah I don't think most jobs are wiling to wait 2 weeks and most certainly not 1 month to wait for a new hire. Most of the time I think they need someone right away and it's usually start by Monday or we're hiring someone who can start right away. Now if there is an extensive training period it may be different because those often take time to set up and often involve a lot of people.
I handed in my notice on Monday... I gave them two months notice. I plan to enjoy my freedom for a bit.... but you know if they told me tomorrow that I needed to go ahead and leave, I would be okay with that. I worked with great people.. there just was not enough of us to do the work and we are ALL overworked. I can't do it anymore.. I had asked for a day off every week and they said no. So I had told myself before I asked for it, that if they said no, I was going to quit. I am good with my decision. I work in healthcare and I can get a job easily (if I am not picky)..
The number one issue I see with coworkers is the ones wanting to be the go getter. The ones who want to shine and be recognized and do a little of everything. They are the ones who burn out the first. They also usually get no more money than the office slacker who devotes his time manipulating metrics to look like a star employee. I have noticed at every company I have worked for that the ones who don't seem to care, are the happiest.
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With the turnover rate and how desperate they are for competent workers I could literally flip my boss off and walk out in the middle of the day and they'd give me my job back the next day.
Agreed. Going over all the crap that made you decide to quit just gets you all upset again. At 1 place I told the HR guy that if he didn't see what was wrong with the company he was doing a crappy job.
The article is directed toward people with career positions. Not people who simply hold a job. The advice and comments don't perceive the difference. The advice needs to take the difference into consideration, as what's right for one, probably doesn't apply to the other.
I have a few issues with this advice. Why give someone a two weeks notice? A corporation will hire you on the spot with no notice at all. Also, you mention a toxic environment, if it’s truly toxic then they don’t deserve a notice and they honestly don’t even deserve you telling them to their face. Just get out as soon as you can. Your company isn’t your friend of family. They don’t care about you.
When I looked at the publish date of this video, I got a laugh. That was the exact day two weeks ago that for the first time in my 24 year working career I got sent home for being "defiant". It wasn't the first time I was defiant in the workplace, just with a completely unreasonable boss who refused to accept that their "improvements" to the workflow were completely non-sensical. I know this will be my last week, and am still debating whether or not to tell them.
