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How to REALLY fly a Lazy Eight - Commercial Pilot Maneuver 

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In this video, I answer the request to expand on the flight maneuver called the Lazy 8. This maneuver is not required by the Private Pilot certificate but it is on the Commercial Pilot ACS. However, I use this maneuver regularly during pilot training to make sure that pilots understand how the airplane will over the bank during a slowing turn. There is no other maneuver that demonstrates how this works. Fly Your Best!
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*Special Thanks to JP for the awesome B Roll footage of the Cessna.

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@dr.barbeque2767
@dr.barbeque2767 Год назад
Passed my commercial checkride today and wanted to thank you for posting this video. I did a lazy eight and this video was huge in my mastery of this maneuver
@amaurysmarmolejos6525
@amaurysmarmolejos6525 Месяц назад
What you up to now?
@jacyborreaux919
@jacyborreaux919 5 лет назад
I have a commercial license and was never able to do good lazy eights. I'm glad the DPE didn't asked me to do one in my checkride. Anyway I went out and tried this method and it just works! Outstanding
@joro18d93
@joro18d93 3 года назад
I commented when I first saw this video then I practiced it with precision on the first try. I showed my CFI and he was very impressed. He said it's not fair that you can do this so easily and everyone else struggles with it including him. He tried it and loved the technique. 2 Thumbs up again.
@MichaelLloyd
@MichaelLloyd 5 лет назад
I have never seen it taught that way. Outstanding!!
@texasscout1
@texasscout1 5 лет назад
I totally agree, I’m just a signed off from taking my check ride and this maneuver is still eating my lunch.
@747-pilot
@747-pilot 4 года назад
Ric P Exactly. My checkride is next week. This maneuver seems the most difficult, in addition to chandelles, although they are a bit easier. My instructor did not teach it this way, although she did say to be veeeerrrry laaaaazy, sooooo laaaazy, 😆 with the maneuver! I’m really glad to have found this video and the one on chandelles. For some reason I don’t seem to have much of a problem with eight-on-pylons.
@flyboy6354
@flyboy6354 5 лет назад
Outstanding video! I just passed my commercial in June and I wish I had been taught it that way. So much more sense!
@TheFinerPoints
@TheFinerPoints 5 лет назад
Congrats! Never too late to go have fun and check out how it works. It's really the only maneuver that teaches over banking in a slowing turn and that's an important concept to know well.
@e.normusbalzac7605
@e.normusbalzac7605 5 лет назад
This is a priceless demonstration that takes all the mystery out of the Lazy-8 ------- thanks SO MUCH for sharing this!! I'm going to get in my airplane this weekend and try it out!
@apilotbgsu172
@apilotbgsu172 5 лет назад
you definitely put that where the goats can get it! the explanation was the best I've heard so far. getting ready for the checkride.
@Aaronautics95
@Aaronautics95 5 лет назад
Wish I could've seen this before my CFI ride back in June! Very excellent.
@thegee-tahguy4877
@thegee-tahguy4877 4 года назад
Want flyin' zen? The first time doing 0Gs! By the 3rd time, you're one with the universe.
@TiagoSeiler
@TiagoSeiler 2 месяца назад
First lazy 8 maneuvers today, it went alright but I was very focused on my instrument readings (15 bank at 45, 30 at 90, etc). Now I've seen this video and I'll try again tomorrow. Let's see how it goes!
@jonathanknight89
@jonathanknight89 5 лет назад
This is the absolutely best explanation I’ve ever seen.
@brianparkman8183
@brianparkman8183 5 лет назад
This has been my hardest maneuver to learn and I'm taking my commercial check ride in a couple of weeks. Can't wait to try it out. You make it so simple.
@thizswagblapcity
@thizswagblapcity 5 лет назад
Just showed a struggling student this and they performed it perfectly first try!
@annabanana4789
@annabanana4789 4 года назад
Hands down, best explanation of this maneuver on the internet. Thank you!!!
@nickromanick4022
@nickromanick4022 5 лет назад
I’m working on my commercial single, and I like the feel of doing it this way. I still had to add more bank input in the LSA I’m in, but this worked so beautifully. I was taught pitch-pitch-bank as my first introduction to this maneuver, and that made no sense to my brain. As I said, this worked great!
@seanlambie3758
@seanlambie3758 5 лет назад
Jason! These instructional videos of yours are really awesome! Your knowledge is second to none, the explanations are clear and concise and you package it all up into a great little short video with clear audio to boot! Nicely done! (BTW I've got almost 15,000 hrs flight experience and your videos keep me interested to the end!) Thanks!
@PilotCristina
@PilotCristina 3 года назад
Awesome! I did some today with your technique and I can’t believe how much I’ve been overthinking it but with your video it has made this maneuver so much easier.
@medyassinelkhider2269
@medyassinelkhider2269 4 года назад
I have done the maneuvers several times before but after watching you I feel like I finally understand it and can spot different errors that I usually make. THank you
@endolphin
@endolphin 3 года назад
This is eye-opening. I've been having hard time to demystify the CPL textbook but your explanation is sooooooo easy and simple! THANK YOU!
@freireroberto
@freireroberto 2 года назад
I just practice this maneuver with my CFI yesterday. I loved it! Thanks for sharing.
@ryanmcfarland6086
@ryanmcfarland6086 5 лет назад
Great video! Your explanation of the lazy eight is much better than any of the instructors I've flown with. Thanks!
@Xmaster_404
@Xmaster_404 3 года назад
Perfect, just the way that i need to be taught about this maneuver, I was struggling, no I feel more confident. Great job
@footeythegreat
@footeythegreat 5 лет назад
i havent heard the manuever explained this way before, ill have to try it on my next lesson. Thanks its always been one that i struggled with
@AV8R_Surge
@AV8R_Surge 5 лет назад
Never did lazy-8s and your explanation is easy to follow. Awesome
@randybranson1009
@randybranson1009 3 года назад
When working on my Commercial ticket, the Lazy 8 was my favorite one. I still like doing them (30 years later) as a relaxing maneuver and one that's actually enjoyable for passengers to experience.
@abbieamavi
@abbieamavi 3 года назад
*to echo off the comments below...that was the simplest and best explanation I've ever heard. and I'm definitely a visual hands on learner, but your textual/auditory definition of it clicked right away from me!! I'm glad I AM here BEFORE my commercial checkride. Thank you so much!!*
@JavaSQL
@JavaSQL 2 года назад
Incredible instructions on how to perform the lazy eights using an unconventional explanation and analogy, Jason. This is why I love your videos. You help students visualize what's happening and then show them. 💯 Excellent stuff man.
@eddapilot9546
@eddapilot9546 3 года назад
Thank you so much, because of this I passed my CFI ride, I can’t never thank you enough!
@MusicmatchJukebox
@MusicmatchJukebox 3 года назад
Awesome explanation, Jason! I’m currently on the cusp of my commercial checkride and this was incredibly informative. Definitely gonna try this tomorrow in the DA40.
@goatflieg
@goatflieg 5 лет назад
Thanks for this.. and the definitive difference between a lazy eight and a wingover. Always wondered about that.
@led.santos
@led.santos 5 лет назад
That's perfect instructions!! I'm a CFI in Brazil, and also own an RU-vid channel about flying lessons, and will use some of your information and beautiful way to teach with my students. Thanks a lot
@REBooner30
@REBooner30 5 лет назад
Lazy 8s with my CFI today! Interesting that for students who struggle with this maneuver he teaches it the same way you demonstrate here. Essentially start with slight bank and pull using only rudder to stay coordinated. It’s going to take some practice to nail the airspeed at the bottom\180 but I was fairly successful hitting the altitude bogey to both the left and right. Your video helped me immensely in prep for this. Thanks 🙏
@TPlasticModellingT
@TPlasticModellingT 5 лет назад
Thank you for the video, I learned more from you in 10 minutes than in a few hours with 2 different instructors, now this makes total sense!!
@TheFinerPoints
@TheFinerPoints 5 лет назад
israel Luor 🙏🏻
@brianb5594
@brianb5594 Год назад
Great technique Jason! Much easier than the way I was taught this maneuver decades ago. Will use with my Commercial students. Thanks!
@flygirl6048
@flygirl6048 3 года назад
I wish I had seen this for my commercial... That being said, now i'm doing my CFI and the maneuver FINALLY makes sense!
@jaredwatson9370
@jaredwatson9370 3 года назад
Same!!
@Oni76
@Oni76 5 лет назад
Jason, there's a beauty and simplicity in the way you teach that I absolutely enjoy. I've certainly used many of your tips through videos and podcasts for my PPL. Big thanks for sharing your time and effort. 👍🏼
@TheFinerPoints
@TheFinerPoints 5 лет назад
Thanks for saying so Oni, It really means a lot to hear stuff like that, thx
@FoxVictorBravo
@FoxVictorBravo 5 лет назад
That was excellent, never seen it explained this way. Makes so much sense now and that explains why I have been struggling with having too much bank at the 90 degree point.
@FoxVictorBravo
@FoxVictorBravo 5 лет назад
Hey Jason, thought I'd share a quick update. I went for my CFI initial checkride last week and guess what maneuver I had to teach on the white board for Area 4... That's right, the lazy 8. It's really funny because this maneuver was the one I had the most trouble with during my Commercial training. Now and thanks to this video, it is the one I enjoy flying the most and I think it will be a lot of fun to teach as well. The DPE was pretty impressed by my performance. He mentioned that the #1 issue he sees over and over with pilots and CFIs is too much bank at the 90 degree point, i.e. over-controlling the airplane. That didn't surprise me one bit since I had that problem too initially. Anyways, just wanted to thank you once again for sharing this video. This is such an elegant maneuver when flown properly. Oh, and I passed on the first attempt :-) Looking forward to teaching.
@downwithreactionaries9031
@downwithreactionaries9031 5 лет назад
I am going through my CPL training, struggling in the maneuvers. This is definitely the best training video ever seen. Can you demo some other CPL maneuvers as well. Bet that will help a lot of struggling students. Thank you!
@Featurisation
@Featurisation 4 года назад
Perfect explanation and description of the maneuver. This helped a lot! Thank you
@kd7osk
@kd7osk 5 лет назад
Fouled this maneuver up on my CFI check-ride yesterday. I'm going to try this technique this evening.
@gerryortiz7276
@gerryortiz7276 4 года назад
I learned it this way as well also was taught to Imagine as if there is a sharpie on the edge of the spinner and paint the 8 in the sky will help as well visualizing your 45 in the sky as well as the ground
@abruzzim
@abruzzim 5 лет назад
You may be the first instructor I have come across who can explain the Lazy Eight in a way that makes it possible. I'm currently training for my CFI-A certificate and will give your method a try. Stay tuned!
@madisonromero3529
@madisonromero3529 2 года назад
This makes me happy. What a simple elegant maneuver!
@AAYGENTMULDER
@AAYGENTMULDER 4 года назад
This is an excellent video! Lazy 8s make so much more sense now! THANK YOU!
@elsieparker8802
@elsieparker8802 4 года назад
Thanks so much for this! I just went up and nailed this maneuver on my second try! It was so satisfying I was literally laughing with delight as I leveled off. Thanks!!
@nrnrnrnrn4527
@nrnrnrnrn4527 3 года назад
Totally understandable huh
@TroyWhistman
@TroyWhistman 5 лет назад
Thank you! Working on Commercial maneuvers now, and this is so helpful. I’ve never seen them taught this way! Looking forward to your take on chandelles!
@TheFinerPoints
@TheFinerPoints 5 лет назад
Awesome! This is how my old air force CFI (I wasn't in the service, he was) taught me to understand / perform them. It works! Chandelles may be next ...
@KonradT4
@KonradT4 5 лет назад
Thank you so much, you have explained it very clearly. I just flew some lazy 8s following your advice. Now I understand how they are supposed to work it is so much easier. Yes, very Zen, relaxing. I’m flying a LiteFlite Dragonfly. In a lazy 8 it needs only light pressure from fingertips on the stick. The right hand turn is a little trickier. If I apply enough right rudder to centre the ball it tends to overbank. I need more practice.
@felipesanhueza5499
@felipesanhueza5499 3 года назад
Thanks!! I am from Chile and I just found your video in the right time!! Let's put this in practice tomorrow!! Excellent way to explain!
@andrewgodfrey1551
@andrewgodfrey1551 5 лет назад
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you! Love that you give an easy-to-understand explanation and easy-to-do demonstration! I’m going for my Commercial checkride next week. Great video to cement in my brain
@TheFinerPoints
@TheFinerPoints 5 лет назад
Good luck!
@brianyurkovitch5744
@brianyurkovitch5744 5 лет назад
Great video. It has been a long time since I have done a lazy 8. I love how you demonstrate the maneuver. I have been away from flying for almost 20 years but great videos like this really increasing my desire to get back in the air. Keep up the good work.
@TheFinerPoints
@TheFinerPoints 5 лет назад
Join us up there again Brian! I have never seen a time like this for aviation. I feel like a child of the drought. We're headed back into a golden age.
@dustinbrooks8805
@dustinbrooks8805 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing! Just started commercial, will be practicing these later this week!
@michaelodriscoll9993
@michaelodriscoll9993 3 года назад
I will be trying this technique next week. Thanks for the instructional video!!
@Blueskiesntailwinds
@Blueskiesntailwinds 5 месяцев назад
I'm super excited to go up and nail this maneuver, after having seen this. This channel is one of my favorites!
@jingsuo3927
@jingsuo3927 5 лет назад
love your way of explaining, thank you for the great video , will try it today :)
@nickieshadowfaxbrooklyn5192
@nickieshadowfaxbrooklyn5192 5 лет назад
Awesome. And it’s great to see JP here as well. I’ll try lazy 8 definitely.
@earnedwings5206
@earnedwings5206 Год назад
Awesome way you explained this. Thank you this was extremely helpful!👍
@danasampson818
@danasampson818 5 лет назад
I am working on my commercial. I have been practicing Lazy 8’s and have been struggling with them. I will try this method on Monday!
@ArcticMayhem
@ArcticMayhem 5 лет назад
Very well explained. Good stuff. I'll have to give this a try when I start working on my commercial. I'd love to see how you teach the other commercial maneuvers too.
@TheFinerPoints
@TheFinerPoints 5 лет назад
There may be a Chandelle video close behind
@WayneSA85
@WayneSA85 4 года назад
Brilliant! Loved the lesson.
@3477dan
@3477dan 5 лет назад
Awesome, definitely one I needed.
@nrnrnrnrn4527
@nrnrnrnrn4527 3 года назад
Man I really appreciated you guys taking the time of sharing some of you knowledge ..this is extremely helpful to me I ve been struggling with this maneuver and this just clear my head on how actually execut it
@TheFinerPoints
@TheFinerPoints 3 года назад
Great to hear!
@theknifekid
@theknifekid 5 лет назад
Great video. I fly out of KHWD and love seeing the east bay on this!
@mtnairpilot
@mtnairpilot 4 года назад
Best explanation I've ever heard.
@peacefulrelaxation-hy6tb
@peacefulrelaxation-hy6tb 2 месяца назад
Best Video Ever on Lazy 8! I'm almost through my CFI course and I still reference this video. Thank you so much!
@TheFinerPoints
@TheFinerPoints 2 месяца назад
🙏🏻🙌🏻
@SleepyHapa
@SleepyHapa 5 лет назад
Currently working on my commercial and I have been struggling with my Lazy Eights. I learned that I might be over-controlling the plane and releasing a little too late. I'm going to apply what I learned on tomorrows flight! Wish me luck!
@sgtjonzo
@sgtjonzo 3 месяца назад
how'd you go?
@malcolmsmart5214
@malcolmsmart5214 5 лет назад
My compliments to you, you're a great instructor. I got my private in 1975 when I was 15 and was fortunate to have a good instructor who had me doing these maneuvers even though they weren't required for a private license. Even did spin training and all of this really helped build my confidence to take my check ride after 35 hours. I have several thousand hours now and still value what he taught me over 40 years ago.
@TheFinerPoints
@TheFinerPoints 5 лет назад
Thank you! It's great to hear that from an experienced pilot
@TheFinerPoints
@TheFinerPoints 5 лет назад
Just added a "Common Errors on Lazy Eights" video to Patreon (www.patreon.com/learntfp ). If you are flying this and it's not going as smoothly as you see here, check out that video to make sure you're not making one of the common errors.
@joro18d93
@joro18d93 3 года назад
That is an awesome and easy way to master this maneuver. Awesome vid. Thank You.
@jashpatel1477
@jashpatel1477 4 года назад
Best instructions on Lazy 8's! Thanks!
@duchesspecson1379
@duchesspecson1379 3 года назад
Man, thank u for this! helped me a lot with my controls
@colinthepilot
@colinthepilot 5 лет назад
Dude! Mind blown! This was one of the hardest maneuvers during my commercial training, almost ten years ago. Now I'm training for my CFI, and this is one that I've been dreading doing with my instructor. I'm going to try this technique next week. Thanks!
@TheFinerPoints
@TheFinerPoints 5 лет назад
Definitely try it this way, it will make it so much easier.
@tinothepilot
@tinothepilot 2 года назад
Fantastic points of training. Just want to go out and do these, now.
@lancedixon8487
@lancedixon8487 5 лет назад
awesome, passed instrument last week, now on to commercial, your a big help
@TheFinerPoints
@TheFinerPoints 5 лет назад
Happy to hear that! Good luck on your commercial
@connorgibson3654
@connorgibson3654 Год назад
this video is great!! it easly made lazy 8's from my worst manover to my best
@pouyan225
@pouyan225 5 лет назад
You're such an inspiring Instructor! Great material!
@TheFinerPoints
@TheFinerPoints 5 лет назад
Thank you.
@gemeen_aapje
@gemeen_aapje 4 года назад
Beautiful scenery! Flying here in Holland is so mega flat. I miss the hills and coastline from Spain
@scottwillson5562
@scottwillson5562 3 года назад
i've watched this probably 20 times and today it made sense to me. thank you.
@TheFinerPoints
@TheFinerPoints 3 года назад
haha -- Awesome! Thanks for hanging in there
@mesparza929
@mesparza929 2 года назад
Can’t wait to go up and try it!
@Ohgr819
@Ohgr819 5 лет назад
Dude! I've got my commercial checkride right after the new year. Gonna try this next time up. Thanks for this awesome explanation! I found it just in time :)
@TheFinerPoints
@TheFinerPoints 5 лет назад
Bryan awesome! Good luck! 🍀👍
@jefar53
@jefar53 4 года назад
Holy crap as a CFI myself you have taught me a better way to teach this maneuver thank you
@bill832
@bill832 3 года назад
Great lesson, many thanks!
@Emipaso
@Emipaso 5 лет назад
I can see JP's work in this video, and it looks AWESOME. Great video again.
@TheFinerPoints
@TheFinerPoints 5 лет назад
Yes, JP did the filming, he's quite good at that. The B roll was fun to edit. Now if I can find out where he gets his music :)
@chrisbjohannsen
@chrisbjohannsen 5 лет назад
Found your channel after watching Flight Chops do your mountain flying course, which looks awesome. I really like your instruction style, very down to earth. I'm gonna bookmark this for my commercial training along with the chandelles video. I've attempted both with an instructor and I really like the way you explained it on the ground first, makes so much more sense.
@TheFinerPoints
@TheFinerPoints 5 лет назад
Thanks! glad you found me. Welcome to the channel :-)
@locustvalleystring
@locustvalleystring 3 года назад
Nice insight into the maneuver. Thanks.
@mrkc10
@mrkc10 5 месяцев назад
Great video. Just discovered your channel. The multiple camera angles makes understanding this maneuver that much easier. Nicely done sir.
@benwu7
@benwu7 3 года назад
Working on commercial on my bonanza. This is great explanation! Will try next time I practice.
@patrickpowell2236
@patrickpowell2236 4 года назад
Thank you. Great explanation.
@willieb6993
@willieb6993 5 лет назад
Awesome video. Learn so much from your approach to training. Thanks.
@TheFinerPoints
@TheFinerPoints 5 лет назад
It's great to hear that, thank you
@hsilva92
@hsilva92 Год назад
Great video man! Starting my commercial rating now and this was great information!
@deanadamedge
@deanadamedge 3 года назад
I’m getting a LOT out of your videos! Many thanks…
@juanbetancur1046
@juanbetancur1046 6 месяцев назад
Awesome video on lazy eights the best I seen
@heycameraman4411
@heycameraman4411 5 лет назад
Yes! So educational and helpful now that I'm going through my commercial training. I can't wait to get this maneuver happening with my instructor this weekend. Thanks yet again for a great video. :-)
@TheFinerPoints
@TheFinerPoints 5 лет назад
Let me know how it goes!
@heycameraman4411
@heycameraman4411 5 лет назад
The Finer Points Wilco
@mikeryan2388
@mikeryan2388 2 года назад
@@heycameraman4411 if you can hear me say position and IDENT, over.
@mikeryan2388
@mikeryan2388 2 года назад
​@@TheFinerPoints I think it might be time to call search & rescue given he is 3 years past his ETA.
@zipper978
@zipper978 2 года назад
Your instruction helped me pass my commercial
@scarpaz
@scarpaz 3 года назад
Very useful. Thanks!
@jessei5921
@jessei5921 Год назад
Great video thank you!
@tornadoz0ne
@tornadoz0ne 5 лет назад
Learned a LOT! Thank you!
@texasscout1
@texasscout1 5 лет назад
Why didn’t I see this video first!? I am struggling with this maneuver I’ve been flying for a long time I am just over controlling, tomorrow morning I’m running out to the airport will pull out my Cherokee 180 and do exactly this way. Thank you so much
@evelyns1741
@evelyns1741 Год назад
Great flight training! I wish you can make another video for steep spiral maneuver . Appreciate your help.
@brucewilbur2586
@brucewilbur2586 5 лет назад
Wonderful presentation of the maneuver!
@TheFinerPoints
@TheFinerPoints 5 лет назад
Thank you!
@normk5761
@normk5761 5 лет назад
If I didn't know better I'd say that looks like the first C-152 ever made. Oh...wait...I DO know better and it IS the first 152 ever made! Excellent video, my thanks to both of you!
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