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How to safely remove IHS on Xbox 360 S or Xbox 360 E 

Josh Davidson
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@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Год назад
WARNING: DO AT YOUR OWN RISK! I am not responsible for damaged chips, damaged motherboards, or your house burning down. YOU are choosing to follow this video, and if you point the finger at me for messing up your console, I will just laugh at you.
@writer6006
@writer6006 Год назад
every mod scene needs someone like you, these videos are insanely insightful!
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Год назад
Thank you
@drboom2
@drboom2 Год назад
They always talk about the D lid, but they never say anything about the A, B, and C lids.
@Colin_Ames
@Colin_Ames Год назад
😊
@MrMario2011
@MrMario2011 Год назад
Good instructions, thanks!
@xKuruh
@xKuruh 3 месяца назад
fancy seeing you here I was just watching your rgh3 video lol 😂 was like might as well repaste my 360 while I'm here
@shanez1215
@shanez1215 Год назад
Going to be trying this, my brothers 360 is a jet engine even after swapping paste. He used it in an enclosed cabinet for a bit so he may have dried the paste under the IHS. Edit: Was successful. I used a razor blade that was in a box cutter which is a bit thicker so it took a LOT longer. But I eventually did it. The cooling performance difference is absolutely insane.
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Год назад
glad to hear!
@repairstudio4940
@repairstudio4940 Год назад
This is just awesome man. It's techs like you that really drive this industry. 😇
@jtchoi2003
@jtchoi2003 Год назад
Hi Josh, thank you for this tutorial! I will keep it in mind if my dad's Halo Reach Xbox 360 S runs too loud or hotter than usual in the future.
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Год назад
My pleasure.
@gameonuk9169
@gameonuk9169 Год назад
Awesome as always Josh. Very nicely done. Just one thing you never showed in your video, the perfect amount of thermal paste. Lol. 👌👍
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Год назад
loool
@MrFixiit
@MrFixiit Год назад
No once he has removed the IHS he ships them off to tronicsfix for the re-apply of thermal paste 😜
@anthonydenn4345
@anthonydenn4345 Год назад
Nice job. keeping the razor parallel to the chip substrate keeps the cutting edge up off the substrate. Causing no damage.
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Год назад
Exactly. But if you push in too far, you'll shear off the capacitor networks on top. So still have to be careful.
@YHdzz
@YHdzz Год назад
So smooth and flawless! Thanks man. Off topic. Basically, the RROD is caused by bga inside of those CPU/GPU dies? 0:
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Год назад
yes, but is not really bga, is called C4 bump array.
@Ashkimbo
@Ashkimbo Год назад
will you show us how you re-apply paste between the die and heatsink? I'm interested because of the height difference in the dies. Thank you for another great video.
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Год назад
Hello, I just apply it like normal and it will fill the space properly. The paste is for filling the microscopic differences :)
@zaptheporcupine1578
@zaptheporcupine1578 2 месяца назад
I hate consoles that use an IHS... only causes trouble and will cause a lot more trouble ten years in the future. Thank you for this guide! I'm glad my 360 slims still run fine, though who knows how long.
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson 2 месяца назад
You're welcome.
@busterscrugs
@busterscrugs Год назад
Recently acquired a beat up 360 E Corona, warranty seal intact. I planned to delid, but then I saw the stock thermal paste was still wet. Was surprised to see zero dust inside. Must've never been used. Applied MX4 and slapped it back together, it's whisper quiet!
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Год назад
You sure it wasn't replaced? Those slim warranty seals are super easy to bypass. Sometimes when I take the casing off it doesn't even break, just separates cleanly. The stock paste is designed to cure dry to last a LONG time as opposed to the aftermarket pastes.
@Miles64k
@Miles64k Год назад
Cool, didn't know about the height difference of the dies 👍
@hphp7587
@hphp7587 Год назад
I used a thin nylon fishing line wire after heating the lid with a hair drier. I don't remember the size though. Definitely safest way absolutely no way of scratching. Also fixed back using silicone sealant. Works great.
@NotSkeletor
@NotSkeletor Год назад
There have been cases where that scratches the die substrate
@hphp7587
@hphp7587 Год назад
@@NotSkeletor nylon wire scratching the die/substrate? No way man. Nylon is plastic, it will never scratch. Maybe It was some sort of metal wire bro
@NotSkeletor
@NotSkeletor Год назад
@@hphp7587 Definitely not metal, watch the end of watch?v=nXaH3crzauM&t=1135s
@ramranch9973
@ramranch9973 Год назад
Video was very informative and arousing. Thank you sir brethren Joshathan.
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Год назад
Arousing??? Are you normal??? Maybe need to see a psychologist.
@TiZmSpectrum
@TiZmSpectrum Год назад
@@Josh.Davidson not a doctor but he should ajajaja
@Colin_Ames
@Colin_Ames Год назад
Excellent video, as always.
@Razzlelul
@Razzlelul Год назад
new josh upload :D
@senator_man
@senator_man Год назад
The best way to remove it - using painting knife. Using it, there's just no way to damage APU.
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Год назад
Yeah, but most people already have a razor blade so I recommend. I use painting knife in PS3 CELL :) Btw, I'm being pedantic but the CGPU is NOT an APU. APU is AMD's term for a CPU + GPU. This chip was designed by IBM, ATi (pre AMD merger), and Microsoft.
@spazmochad
@spazmochad Год назад
@@Josh.Davidson if you fancy doing a quick video or just a link to the tool next time/if you come to do a PS3 again that would be handy. I have a bunch of fat PS3 consoles knocking about, which at my current burn down rate I'll get around to in 2027...
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Год назад
@@spazmochad I'll keep in mind, I'm no PS3 expert tho
@shanez1215
@shanez1215 Год назад
Question: would something like dental floss work to cut through adhesive. It's frequently used for "just the glass" replacements on phones, since they laminate the screen to the glass.
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Год назад
I never tried it
@forcatatica6335
@forcatatica6335 11 месяцев назад
Have you tried it? Worked
@Viggen66
@Viggen66 Год назад
My mistake was removing the black sealing from the socket, and making temps go a little bit high of what it should had been, but you can see the thermal paste underneath the IHS is completely dry
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Год назад
It's supposed to be. The long lasting type of paste "cures" into place. As long as you don't break the seal it will last a long time. Eventually it needs replacing but not because of "dryness". You're comparing it to your aftermarket paste types which typically need replacing in about 4-5 years, far too short for any consumer device. But yes you can alleviate this by gluing the IHS with pressure only over the CGPU die area, not the eDRAM die area. That should help.
@gustavosouza8446
@gustavosouza8446 6 месяцев назад
Hi josh, the thermal paste underneath the IHS could be the same between the IHS and the heatsink? And you have a suggestion to what type of thermal paste to use ?
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson 6 месяцев назад
Hello. Yes you can use any high quality paste. I like CERAMIQUE 2. It is good quality, last a long time, and not too expensive.
@NewfieMeltdown
@NewfieMeltdown Год назад
Would you get better temps by putting the heatsink back on without the IHS?? Or is it best just to keep the IHS on the sub-straight??
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Год назад
You can't. The heatsink is designed to have the original height. Also if you do that the eDRAM won't touch the heatsink well - and in addition, the IHS adds a lot of thermal inertia - which actually will help dampen thermal spikes... *BUT* the default temps are fine, so why bother anyways.
@thanos_x23
@thanos_x23 5 месяцев назад
Do you think that the difference in die height is the main reason the chips fail? (Especially with the fat models where they didn't have the heatspreader to equalize the heatsink pressure) P.S.: I'm just guessing, I don't have any experience with any of this
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson 5 месяцев назад
No, not at all. On the Phat the eDRAM is also lower. That is on purpose, because the eDRAM puts barely any heat out, while the GPU die puts a lot out, this ensures the heatsink is always flush with the GPU die.
@SockyNoob
@SockyNoob Год назад
Amazing instructions!
@TheModSmith
@TheModSmith Год назад
Great tutorial, thanks!
@MrBlingBlingNr1
@MrBlingBlingNr1 Год назад
i wonder how the temperatures are after doing that. I did only new thermal paste on the Heat Spreader and the temps are around 70-75°C. The fan is at normal noise level.
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Год назад
Then don't worry, the paste under IHS is likely fine. Only change it if you see the fan ramping up frequently or the hot spot (labelled CPU) diode approaching 82.
@MrBlingBlingNr1
@MrBlingBlingNr1 Год назад
@@Josh.Davidson Ok thanks for the Info!
@InsaniaTHEGREATONE
@InsaniaTHEGREATONE Месяц назад
I cursed ps3 IHS plates and I do have 2 ps3 with delid IHS plates. I never knew my xbox 360 Slim edition has IHS plate (now I really have to do this lmfao) glad my fat xbox360 (jasper) is easy to replace thermal paste
@Dev_hax
@Dev_hax Год назад
Great tutorial 💡
@senornaranja2364
@senornaranja2364 Год назад
So i was wondering what are those 8 legged tan looking parts thats atached to the green substrate? are they uF caps? im asking cause i broke 1 off and im trying to figure out how feeseable it would be to re attach another one. ( i dont have my hopes up tho lol)
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Год назад
They're capacitor networks but I don't know the value.
@senornaranja2364
@senornaranja2364 Год назад
@@Josh.Davidson thanks
@lukedavis436
@lukedavis436 9 месяцев назад
Hi!, can the Heatspreader still be used after reapplying the paste to the Dies? thanks! i just like having the chip information infront of me
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson 9 месяцев назад
Yes, you NEED to put it back. Thx.
@lukedavis436
@lukedavis436 9 месяцев назад
@@Josh.Davidson is there a way you'd recommend re-adhering the IHS?
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson 9 месяцев назад
I affix it at the corners with high temp glue. Easy slice in future
@Bridgetfidget18
@Bridgetfidget18 Год назад
Is the thermal glue hard to remove? And in the future, what would be the best method of removing that glue
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Год назад
What thermal glue?
@Bridgetfidget18
@Bridgetfidget18 Год назад
@@Josh.Davidson if u were to put glue on 4 corners of the chip to hold the ihs down, I’m asking if it would be hard in the future to remove, speaking for a silicone thermal glue to be exact
@Bridgetfidget18
@Bridgetfidget18 Год назад
@@Josh.Davidson what I did to mine was place the IHS on the heat sink where it would normally sit being held on with paste, then putting paste on the actual chip, so it sits how it should and is as close as can be to the heat sink
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Год назад
Same result pretty much. If you scraped the silicon off the IHS or substrate, your susceptance to worse thermals. Unless you get lucky with the delta height of the CGPU and eDRAM dies.
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Год назад
@@Bridgetfidget18 No. You just slice it again.
@8bitnation419
@8bitnation419 5 месяцев назад
Best to not cut the side with the nearby caps, just the corners of that side. And it will lift off.
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson 4 месяца назад
I disagree. I've delidded tons of these without issue. A clean cut makes re-attatchment easy and safe.
@8bitnation419
@8bitnation419 4 месяца назад
@@Josh.Davidson Sure but it's very easy to knock off those caps on that side.
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson 4 месяца назад
Not if you follow my instructions
@thewavyshopofficial
@thewavyshopofficial Год назад
can you use liquid metal between the die and heatsink
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Год назад
Terrible idea
@thewavyshopofficial
@thewavyshopofficial Год назад
@@Josh.Davidson May I ask why? Cuz as long as you make sure it does not touch the components should be fine. I mean it's the same heat since you see on computer CPUs well the same material? Also, what are those components that are around the CPU and GPU chip
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Год назад
@@thewavyshopofficial Because it's dumb to put such ridiculous over the top shit on a low power chip...
@Bridgetfidget18
@Bridgetfidget18 Год назад
It’ll destroy the heat sink as it is mostly aluminum
@thewavyshopofficial
@thewavyshopofficial Год назад
@@Bridgetfidget18 no i was talking about between the die and the heat spreader
@mickyblueairlines3704
@mickyblueairlines3704 Год назад
Not fitting in the Topic of the Video but Could you look at Jacob R's Video because that 360 that failed in that Video has an Error which i never saw and looks interesting
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Год назад
Link?
@mickyblueairlines3704
@mickyblueairlines3704 Год назад
​@@Josh.Davidson ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pEnn8w1WqNw.html At 12:20
@marktoo9454
@marktoo9454 Год назад
Good video josh.....
@rafammbass
@rafammbass Год назад
that went smooth
@omargdottin
@omargdottin Год назад
Great tutorial
@chase7974
@chase7974 6 месяцев назад
I accidentally got hungry and ate the IHS. I then took a bite out of one of the corners of the motherboard. After that, one of the capacitors ended up in my ear. I'm not hungry now.
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson 6 месяцев назад
You are not serious.
@InsaniaTHEGREATONE
@InsaniaTHEGREATONE Месяц назад
Awesome video btw, you opened my eyes hahahaha
@shaunlimin25
@shaunlimin25 Год назад
How to fix Xbox 360 E Error 17 Or secondary code 0101
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Год назад
Replace the CGPU with a working one, or the RAM bricks.
@liptonacer
@liptonacer Год назад
NICE
@julianavellasierra7255
@julianavellasierra7255 Год назад
Thermal paste makes a sad face :c
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Год назад
It's sharpie, I put it to indicate that the chip on this parts board is bad.
@julianavellasierra7255
@julianavellasierra7255 Год назад
@@Josh.DavidsonThat's a fun way to mark what doesn't work anymore. Keep up the good work friend!
@bf2itu
@bf2itu Год назад
I use a Coke can. kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
@nicekeyboardalan6972
@nicekeyboardalan6972 Год назад
K Keep Me Posted.
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Год назад
On?
@nicekeyboardalan6972
@nicekeyboardalan6972 Год назад
@@Josh.Davidson it's an old meme lol
@martontichi8611
@martontichi8611 Месяц назад
super scary . not gonna try
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Месяц назад
Fair enough.
@august8877
@august8877 Год назад
👊 Promo'SM
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson Год назад
What?
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