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They are premium price range. I went with EG4 setup. Must more affordable and it looks good.

Its nice when you get them from free for your channel.😂

by definition home energy storage batteries are too expensive for what they bring you. or said otherwise. the amount of money you save will never pay back the initial buying cost

No love button from Zack for this comment 😂

@@tymon5349 it's not always about saving money though. I mean, they'll at least help pay back their cost but I live in an area that frequently loses power. Especially during the winter. For days at a time. We have a generator but having batteries and solar would be even better. Hell, being off the grid entirely would be amazing.

Yeah American homes are pretty much made of cardboard when compared to European homes.

Paper mache houses that cost 20k to build with bit of wood and plaster that last 20 years vs solid proper built housing that will last ages. Bit more of a wind and their s**t falls apart lol

Depends on how you make the house... Not all homes here are the same...South Florida has huge wind limits on buildings, and last over 150mph hurricane winds.. but not all counties are the same laws.. every city has different little sublaws

Eh, ​@@JohnSmith-oh9ux gypsum insulation drywall are all pretty sturdy stuff. It doesn't hasn't have to be about how we don't make our walls out of solid steel

@@JohnSmith-oh9ux Real cringe of you to think THAT poorly of other people. American builders arent stupid, they know perfectly well how to build homes suited to their environment.

If you have to ask, you can't afford them :)

@@whisperzzar3321 Ah yes, renewable energy out of hte hands of an average joe. Just what the corps want.

These huge batteries are expensive as hell and they have terrible return on investment. This makes no financial sense.

@@kellymoses8566 Yep they are literally only justifiable to turn it into a eco-off grid solution and disaster backup. Other than that they will die quicker than repay themselves.

@@kellymoses8566 Well... the first problem is considering it an investment. It is not an asset. It is a liability. So, the ROI is negative. Because it's not an investment.

They are not in every country too

No wonder there was no price mentioned. Solar is useless until we get affordable storage. Or at the VERY least very cheap bypass for power outages so your solar isn't useless during power grid outages.

@@user-vg6qv5jv3w Newer Enphase micros can supply off grid power without sending to grid when the grid is down, without extra equipment.

anker is a very crummy company in general. they got in trouble within the past year for massive data privacy leaks from their robot vacuum cleaners.

@@The0Advent Leaks happen to all companies, even as large as Cisco and Kaiser. Some deliberately sell your data without your consent, they are the real baddies.

I'll make sure he sees your comment!

heh - I had the same thought. Those hexagon beds are cool.

right?! Like i wanted a mini-tour of the garden beds

those are also solar powered

came here to comment this lol, his place is amazing.

Turned it off after a few seconds. It's becoming too frequent and annoying.

It's funny to go through all the comments and see the ones relating to lack of price transparency not have hearts 😂

I don't mind that this focuses on a single product. The concept is relevant for anyone looking into solar and local storage. You aren't stuck with only one vendor ...

Agree

Well I was searching for those batteries so in this case this video was a perfect shot... still need to find where to buy it in EU (NL)..

The biggest hurdle from what I've heard for the RV life is the panels -- you can only fit so much on an RV, and even if you have extending panels or something, you can't drive... so during the day you have to choose to full charge or drive. But you could fit a LOT of batteries in and just have a day here and there where you spread out your panels and charge... expensive dream in any case, so just a distant dream for me

Exactly what I have been thinking about. There is no good solution yet that will just work. It is a piece by piece installation Victron looks the absolute best option for that right now. I truly want a solution that would allow me to pull up to an EV charger and top off my RV batteries. Then give me 2-3 days of off-grid capability. However, my rig is 40' and almost everything is electric. I have Propane for Range/Oven, Instant Hot Water Heater, and backup heat. Everything else is electric. I especially want all 45k BTU of cooling though as I live in Texas!

Everyone I know that tried to do the RV thing quit after a few months or at most a year. There is the cost of fuel and parking fees, RVs with sliders seem to break or leak often, you need to tow a car, one bathroom, and you are stuck in a couple of hundred feet with the same people day after day.

@@DoctorX17 you can make a retractable wings like sinde platform and mount those additional panels for more power

@Frozty I recommend listening to the Audiobook - "The Martian", if you can try to get hold the version narrated by R.C Bray. As as @DoctorX17 mentioned, the biggest hurdle is the panels and Andy Weir covers that issue quite well imo.

you can get dotation for these kinds of solar panels, I think if you get the water heating kind its basically free, for the electricity generating ones you get around 50% back, so a setup for a normal house would be around 20k euro at most I recon

That's the plan.

Yes. Double it and give it back! Love it.

How did he resist the urge to use the phrase "Anker management"?

I was wondering the same thing. I'm guessing there was some nice discount or offer involved.

Jacom is the founder of Oshcut, pretty sure he could afford buying those without a discount.

why would you think he did this for free

A video like this can't pay off the hours of solid work he's doing if he has any respect for his skills

​@@Malkovith2how will it not pay back? The video is sponsored so he's getting money from Anker plus he's going to get hundreds of thousands of views from this video at least which would be tens of thousands of dollars too That's way more than enough payback

did it tho ?

Has it though? The tech part, not the applications of the battery.

@@vivekparmar7576 you said it yourself though, the tech part? that has improved

Too much "though" in this rheead

​@@TypicalBlox It has improved but it "didn't advance so much". We're still stuck with Lithium-ion batteries.

Glad you enjoy it!

Im with you on the internet connection, especially if its main use is during a grid down. Id rather have a dedicated tablet built in and mounted to the wall that runs the app. Then give it optional connectivity for some of the fancier functions, software updates etc.

@@KngDnglng I agree. I'd consider that a must. That stated, if it only requires WIFI, I'd be okay with that. If it truly requires Internet, that is a huge negative to me. I would hope that is not the case.

They conveniently skipped the part where they had to intercept the utility cables for the transfer switch and that requires hours of labor and a licensed electrician working with the utility company.

It can probably locally connect. I have the Tesla app and it has a local connection. But WiFi makes it more convenient to use.

@@Steven0sborne No, he mentioned the need for a licensed electrician. And the interconnect is done between the house load center and the utilities meter base. Here in Tennessee, you have work with the utility but your electrician installs everything from the service pole (nearest physical connection) to the building.

You should look into building the battery pack yourself, from raw LiFePO4 cells and BMS. It's surprisingly easy, requires few tools, and saves a ridiculous amount of money (like 50%+ compared to pre-built kits like these Ankers. EVE LF280K cells are what I use as they are extremely high value and will last 20+ years with proper care. I guarantee they can be shipped to you at relatively affordable prices, especially when bought in large quantities.

​@@Spaniard47 do you have any guide or directions for me to make some research?

@@StephenOjukwu there are a lot of very good resources here on RU-vid like Will Prowse and Andy's off grid garage. I use EVE cells and JK BMS for my own projects.

Completely agree. If I had the extra income I would still do this setup just for emergencies. I wish I knew how to do this because then I would just get the cheapest panels I could find on the market and repurpose a used battery from a decommissioned ev car and just go about it the cheapest way I could. Those battery packs pack so much juice

The return on investment has many-many variables, location, energy rate, amount of panels, installation cost, etc. What may be 16 years for you could easily be 9 years just down the road. Not to mention the government incentives to reduce the price. Sidenote, batteries that are LiFePO4 can last much longer than 10 years ( even the old Ni-Cd are probably more realistically closer to ~12 years before super-meaningful degradation. ) I believe LifePO4 is closer to ~16 years. You may want to look into DIY your system like Jerryrigeverything did

I did the calculation 10 years ago, and I am now kicking myself for not doing it, would have only been 16k for the whole system(no batteries) and they were paying 28 cents a kilowatt. But at the time I said the same thing, that it would take 7 years to break even. It's hard to account for how things will change.

@@thadude3 7 years is nothing as long as you don’t move often

@@TypicalBlox lifepo4 can last even longer than that. the most common cycle count ive seen is about 6000 cycles until you have 80% of the original capacity remaining. and a cycle is a full discahrge to 0% and then all the way back up to 100% 6000 times. if you did that every single day thts about 16.5 years.... to have 80% capacity remain on those batteries. if you manually adjust the lifepo4 charge controller to work go between say 5% capacty and 95% so it never fully dischargers or charges the cycle count is even higher. tldr. lifepo4 batteries last a *very* long time. youre going to end up replacing your inverters/ charge controllers before the batteries.

mm yes hi Dan

I don't understand how that companies think this is good advertising. No price. Quote only. Video makes it sound like a DIY solution from a normie ahh company but no, you have to get a quote? But it obviously works or they wouldn't bother.

I would just do it as a backup

Did this single video fund free backup batteries and controller? Probably not solar panels.

Glad you noticed it!

oh yeah baby there u go❤​@@JerryRigEverything

I'm glad somebody else saw it, I thought I was imagining it

Battery smooth indeed

Edited buttery smooth. Left out some critical parts like the one that would have had required the utility company out.

@@curtisbme no part of this requires the utility company - as long as you can disconnect / pull the meter or disconnect before the main panel.

@@whattheschmidt I suggest you look up your local regulations as, while it is possible, it is very unlikely that you are allowed to the pull and reconnect the meter. This is also the fact that this is feeding to the grid which requires a ton more utility involvement and inspection.

@curtisbme I didn't personally do it, local electricians did and the city approved everything as well, it was all done to code

How often is your grid going down?

Your "net annual electric bill" is many-many-many times less that just one of that battery, let alone that solar array. Wtf are you talking about, "off-grid" adept? 😂

@@gastiresoil9758 Depends on the weather and traffic. Usually, one or twice a year for 3-4 hours. But a couple of years ago for 3 days when some guy drove his car into a big pole and sheared it off. Immediately took out power to 200+ homes. Regarding bills, electricity usage cost decreased from $400+/mo. to getting a check for few hundred back for the year.

@@JBoy340ahow much electricity were you using for $400 a month? Where is this? I left a 1500 watt heater on in my garage for the entire month and it affected my bill by $100. How much power do you use?

@@ryanespinoza7297 NorCal. 3000 sq foot home. 12 kW system. Usage depends on time of use. Daily consumption in summer about 40-50 kWh (AC), winter 20-25 kWh. Rates are varied by time and day. M-F is peak 3-8PM, remaining is off-peak. We also get an additional check for sending power back to grid during power alerts.

Thank you!

Judging by the neighborhood they can all easily afford this setup but most people don’t like to think too far ahead or plan for emergencies

That's in the Description. 😛

FSM forbid all the for-profit, publicly traded energy companies reduce the amount of stock buybacks or size of their dividends! We must protect their level of profits! Someone else must pay!

Compare it to Tesla powerwall before you pull the trigger!

@@kevin7hecut powerwall is 9300, any idea how much the solix is yet?

There’s no way your house uses 309w. Charging your phone would be 1/5th of that on a fast charger

@@derekderek2570 I don't know of any phone beyond about 20 watts of charging ability. You know of one that can take 60 watts!?

@@whattheschmidt uhh bro "The Xiaomi 14 Pro, Redmi Note 13 Pro+, and OPPO Reno 12 Pro are among the mobile phones currently offering a 120W fast charge feature." Nubia Red Magic 7 Pro - 135W Realme GT Neo 3 - 150W OnePlus 10T - 150W Nubia Red Magic 9 Pro+ - 165W iQOO 10 Pro - 200W Redmi Note 12 Explorer - 210W Realme GT5 - 240W

@@derekderek2570 Our off grid property averages around 200W. We don't use electricity for heating or cooling(other than the fridge). The fridge is very efficient only using 0.5kWh/day. All the cooking is done on propane and heat is provided with wood. We are about to upgrade the system so we will have a surplus of power in the summer which we will use to heat water. Then in the winter we will heat water using the wood stove. A typical phone or tablet charger is only 10 to 12watts. Laptops are typically 60w peak much less on average. A large tv is around 70w. Starlink is our biggest constant draw at around 100W. For laundry we have a small semi manual machine and hang clothes to dry. The lighting is fairly insignificant. We grew up RVing every weekend and are accustom to only turning on the light we need at any given time. That said in the summer we don't even try to conserve anymore as we already have more than we need. In winter production drops down to 1/6th on average so we are adding nearly another 4000w of panels to our existing 1200w. This winter past the generator had to be run every evening to make up the difference. 300W average isn't that out of line if your not using it for heating/cooling. Modern electronics and lighting really use tiny amounts of power.

It's because it's insanely expensive. Never a good sign when price isn't transparent

What's with lack of capital letters ?

@@zuti071 what does it change? this isn't a midterm paper

It’s not a lithium ion battery pimp. Lifepo4 chemistry is non combustible.

@@gastiresoil9758 thanks for pointing that out, edited my comment

Don't say that's good. American houses are not built solid. Just wood everywhere. That's why they burn down easily. In Europe and Africa, houses are built with concrete. Difficult to tear through, but you have a solid home.

A computer should be on a small battery backup anyhow.

any desktop PC with important work/data should be on its own UPS.

20ms switching is fast enough for sensitive electronics to not even notice the switch from grid to inverter.

Soon! Now that the snow is gone above ground we are picking up that project again this week

@@JerryRigEverything Yesss can't wait

2 weeks

You know some solar companies offer $0 down to do this, and then you pay less than your average bill for the same power you’re already using.

Hasn't been nuclear since chernobyl happened. Coal was cheaper till grid scale solar-only passed it a few years ago. Solar+battery is almost as cheap as coal, and significantly cheaper than nuclear already

im pro nuclear but have no clue where you pulled that from

Solar is nuclear

The regulations cause it to be much more expensive upfront; not a bad thing. However, over the life of the reactor, it is the cheapest.

@@Blatstein Oh, then solar is cheapest because of all of the government's subsidies? :D Yeah, that's what I thought.

Duh

Agreed

​@@JerryRigEverything you are replying me unbelievable thank you because your followers more than 8.6 millions, I am also from India.

Not for Ohio .

@@nathanielcolston7770 What's wrong in Ohio? My rural KY road is filled with homes with solar installations within the past few years, the substation is nearly at capacity for what the utility allows to feed back into the grid so the few stragglers are getting battery backup systems.

I too would like to know the price 😂

Airbus enters the Chat

@@John10GnR Doh!

@@johnburr9463 actually that's pretty much the only french useful company I can think of rn 😅

@@John10GnR LVMH controls around 60 subsidiaries that manage 75 luxury brands. In addition to Louis Vuitton and Moët Hennessy, LVMH's portfolio includes Tiffany & Co., Christian Dior, Fendi, Givenchy, Marc Jacobs, Stella McCartney, Loewe, Loro Piana, Kenzo, Celine, Sephora, Princess Yachts, TAG Heuer, and Bulgari. Renault. Peugeot. Schneider Electric. Michelin. There are 31 French companies in the Fortune Global 500 (ranking 5th after USA, China, Japan and Germany)

I'm always wondering, how do you get to such high daily energy use? I live in germany and in arour 170sqm house we are 3 people and have a average daily energy use of 11kwh, and I think we're already on the higher end with that...

@@potato8236 I mean happens pretty quick when it's 95F+ for 3 months straight, my house is 1600sqft 3 bedroom

@@seanathanq ah, guess that's the difference, forgot that homes can have AC.

It's LiFePO4 so it should last a long time, 10,000 cycles is normal for this chemistry. They mentioned a 10 year warranty so clearly the manufacturer expects it to last more than a decade. Also keep in mind it should keep working even after "end of life", just with reduced capacity.