depends where you are going, it's his property its either do that or replace the bike for an extortionate amount if it gets nicked. which would you choose!
My uncle Ducati got stolen luckily it had a GPS tracker and we track them thief like deers, lets just say they are enjoying their 3 years of jail time :)
I'm almost certain this will be a really helpful video even before the video starts to play, because it's a Londoner teaching us how to secure a bike. Thank you for making a short and straight to the point guide without unnecessary into and loud music. Definitely quality content here.
Put the disc lock on the left side disc so it faces the ground, it's harder to get at. Or better still a disc lock on each disc, front and rear. The chain through the Swingarm, run it round a spoke on the rear wheel, and if possible never leave a chain on the ground, if it's in the air it's harder to cut as it bounces. Use a lock around the rear sprocket and drive chain, a small U lock works well. As you said if they want it nothing will stop them ( maybe a claymore under the seat!!), but it's all about slowing them down or making your bike look like too much hassle. Any chain under 16mm can be cut in seconds, including that kryptonite one. Plenty of videos here on RU-vid that shows chains being cropped.
another tip: when using a chain, try to get the lock as high as possible from the ground. they use the floor as leverage/support, if its high it becomes more diffucult. here you could do the second chain on the high part of the bar.
A note on the steering lock. If you have taken good measures to secure your bike with chains and locks, don't even bother locking the steering. If they break that on a modern bike (especially yamahas) you're looking at £1600 just to get the bike ride-able again if you recover it. I'm talking from experience here. My MT09 got stolen recently and its not just a simple ignition barrel replacement. Its barrel, immobiliser, ecu, tank lock and seat lock. Because they will only sell you the parts as a set. Plus they're likely to damage the barrel fixings on the yoke too which will also be costly. That much money just isn't worth buying 10 seconds of time in my opinion. This is a great video. it pains me when i see expensive/nice bikes left without any security.
but if your bike is recovered and the steering is not broken then your insurance will not pay out also if your bike is covered by cctv and your bikes seen not to have the steering lock on when stolen they pay not out
@@toadamine tell that to the insurance company if you haven't locked it. I very much doubt they will pay out as it costs them money if you have not done something your insurance states you should do then it's void, standard practice with insurance the world over. For your information my country doesn't suck as you call it.
@@Mean-bj8wp I've checked, insurance covers it if its stolen, it doesnt matter how its stolen, USA insurance companies dont blame the victim, if your country is different, that sucks! 😁👍🏻😂🇺🇸 www.quora.com/Will-your-insurance-company-cover-a-stolen-car-if-you-left-your-key-inside
daym ... it's a shame we have to lock up our stuff with so much security just to have a peace of mind that it might still be where you left it when you get back! makes me angry!
Loving the channel mate, keep it going! Ps. Covering it up is also quite a big factor! I usually stuff an aquatex into a small drypack and have it in my bag, it packs quite small.
Thanks for the helpful vid. I think that second lock on the back chain would be better employed around a rear spoke. They still have to cut through the chain no matter how many locks you have. Putting the D lock around a back spoke gives them an additional cut to make after they cut through the chain.
Steering lock is about 2 seconds - one good kick. Disc lock is tougher than you think, about 2-4 minutes and has to be shocked first, depending on the tools might also need an extra minute of freezing - unfortunately it might also be done in 30 seconds with correct tool, read ahead. Both measures mentioned above are negligible if your ride gets nicked by two strong lads with a van but that's a planned theft - always keep your motorcycle in a garage at night. Your heavy chain is what should discourage most opportunist thieves. Here's where interesting part of my comment begins. That very same chain is about 60 seconds (because it needs 2 cuts) and your first lock about 30 seconds (because it only needs one cut) if you happen to have access to a handheld hydraulic shears (mine can pack 13 tons and there are better ones out there). With that in mind, d-lock is 30 seconds. Surprisingly your "lightweight" chain is also 60 seconds (because you need to pump the tool quite a few times) but about 10 seconds with a standard non-hydraulic lever shears (two 5 second cuts). Above said, no opportunist motorcycle thief is walking around with a 6kg worth of tools - it's kind of gear taken on a planned theft so, again, don't keep your motorcycle outside at night and you're good. And if you have to, invest in a good GPS monitoring system because sooner or later your motorcycle *will* get stolen. Especially MT07. It's hot buns.
I actually made a trap bomb under my scooter seat.. once someone except me start to drag or whatever without the switch being turned on, timer is set for a minute and thirty seconds until it blows up. I always defuse it before riding it and i am making sure not to forget about it ;)
Even though i don't live in London i still carry 2 disc locks for the front and rear and a chain i just don't want to deal with the whole process of waiting for the insurance to pay out or not. I have a top box on my bike so i don't have to carry a backpack with me it might ruin the look of the bike but on a daily basis a top box is a good thing to have.
Aren't you scared of falling with 30kg worth of security devices in your backpack ? It could smash your spine if you fall onto it. I personally cary a disk lock and a Chain/U combo under my seat. Nothing on me, it's a bad idea.
I really agree with you however I have no other option to be honest. The chains and locks together weigh in about 5kg, so not that bad in terms of weight.
wear a good jacket with decent back protection and then get a bag with 2 separate compartments in and put a back protector in between the chains and your back, that should help.
If you spend your riding time being scared of falling off then maybe you shouldn't be riding. I get what you're saying, but it's safer for me to carry an Oxford Monster chain in my backpack than tie it to my luggage rack (which I've seen a lot) or have it sliding around in a topbox
Why would you consider lifting the rear is harder? Most bikes are well balanced in terms of weight. I thought the point of having a disk lock in the front is to make it impossible to lift the rear and be able to easily steer the bike.
Get 4 disc locks and put them just either side of your break callipers that way both wheels can’t even move 1 inch, alarm disc locks are better, also use a chain to an anchor point the more security the better.
@@josht8288 well after thinking about it. I suppose these scumbags scoop out the area during daylight to come back later. If its covered they will forget about it rather than think i will come back later and check if it's worth stealing. Anyway I'm also decided to invest in a monimoto alarm system, and a baseball bat. It will call my phone within a minute if anyone touches my bike
@@jasonhenderson1881 I just have 2 alarms on my bike, ones a wheel lock with alarm and the other is a 2 way that alarms my keychain. put a sign on the bike that says "the alarm notifies me in under 1 second, I can get to the bike in 15 seconds and my bullets travel 1400 ft/sec. If you think you can steal my bike and get that far away within 15 seconds be my guest.
Hi, whats your recommendation for locking bike using 16mm chain without using solid anchor or lamp posts ? How would you lock the chain for having 100% of security ? I know that the rear tyre is the best option but still any tips on that ? Thanks
Hello mate Ive also got two chains but the gap between the swingarm isnt big enough what would you recommend? Im thinking to lock both through the rear wheel?
Its not about making it impossible to steal, its about increasing the time it would take and hopefully making your bike less of a target in the first place.
The idea I think is that the chain itself is the most heavy-duty part you can get your hands on, so that the thief needs an equally heavy tool to cut. So they go for the lock(s) instead which are typically smaller and easier to cut through. So adding more locks to the chain increases the time it takes for thieves who aren't capable of cutting through the chain itself.
I ride an R6 in central London I keep it in my living room so they will have fight on there hands getting it from there, but realistically when I’m out and about how in the world can I carry all those chains. R6 has storage for my two disc locks and I carry a City Abus chain in my rucksack bikes got a tracker. But what else can I do?
One thing you could do is use the chain lock on the bike itself, so the locks itself also locks the bike in some way. This makes it that the thieves need to cut both the chain and the lock. For example, place the lock on the wheel spoke, or chain sprocket. Position is paramount. You want to sandwich the brake caliper. Rear one most important, use the chain sproket rather than the disk. it's thicker and harder to cut through.
just a thought mate ..if you install a tracker you should be better off, I know it's more expensive and there is yearly subscription but I think savings on insurance should be just as good ??
Ok I am so sad, I bought a bike just over a year ago. But with the security and nasty weather, dangerous drivers, massive insurance and having to wear all the armour. I gave up. For me the negatives outweighed the positives.
Dude I put 2 wheel locks with alarm 1 front and one back then I put a 16mm pewag chain on the frame then another chain on the swing arm hugging the wheel also but that move you did with 2 locks is a pro gamer move that I’m also going to do..I drive a supermoto 505 sxf
another huge tip is to remove your pillion pegs! with pegs it makes it easier for the thief's to push the bike away... one scooter either side with a leg out each on the pillion pegs pushing your pride and joy away.
I have two heavy duty chains that get harder the more heat gets on it, so as they saw the chain becomes stronger, they have a better chance sawing off whatever i attached it to
Best way for me, lock it up in a crowd place, with lots of lights and for the better: camera.In France, they just lift the moto with 3 or 4 guys and put it in a van. So park it where a lot of people are is a good choice ;)
Motorcycle accessories stores or dealerships, also online but make sure you go for good brands like Abus, don’t buy a 10mm Oxford chain and expect your bike to be safe, the more expensive the chain the better quality it is.
My idea for a bike lock would stop the bastards pushing it away. Using the front sprocket. This would have to be built in at manufacturer. A barrel type lock that went through a hole in the front sprocket and in to e engine itself. The key would remove it out completely and then be put in a receptacle on the frame. The Bastards wih the battery grinder wou have to hack half the engine away.
Are those 20 seconds on the steering lock worth about £600 in repairs? Got mine broken, they have no manage to steal the bike (had disc lock and u-lock)
Just to let u know, that chain can be cropped, its okay for daytime but not so much at night where they will have the 20 seconds needed to cut the chain silently. Go for a 16mm or above that guarantees it cannot be bolt cropped by hand, rather than it stating it is just resistant.
Nice video mate. I have one question: how do you carry locks and chains? Do you use back pack or top box? and how much does it weigh? Getting my first bike and locks next week. Mine is about 15kg all together so I'm wondering if back pack is comfy enough.
Anus granite 68 lock is v,resistant to angle grinders, might fit on the back rotor, and it doesn't hurt having a chain from the back wheel in to the frame.
Rather than just locking the chains with the lock, apply the lock to one of your wheel spokes too, that way, if the chain is cut the lock remains on the wheel so they'd have to cut the lock instead which would be harder to do as it's tucked into the wheel, Leaving a lock flapping in the breeze holding a chain together is not the best use for it. As with previous comments, don't use the steering lock, they don't slow them down and if you get it back (buy a tracker) it could cost you big bucks if you ever want it to steer properly again.
If you could keep that chain up as far as possible up from the ground it makes it harder for big bolt cutters to be used against the chain by levering on the concrete.
some great info here ;) ...im just not convinced about locking the steering, particularly on a high value bike. Steering locks take seconds to break (i.e. not much of a deterrent) and this can write off the whole frame of the bike in the process. I secure my bike with chains and disc locks but leave my steering lock off. That way if the bike is stolen and recovered i might not have to put an insurance claim in. A cracked frame on an high value bike can often render it a write off resulting in increased insurance premiums etc :( ......also installing a decent tracker will aid recovery if the bike is ever stolen.
Some bikes are hard to secure to the frame (Multistrada). Too much stuff in there. You can pass a 300mm U lock through the front axle and chain to that.
I just got my very first street bike stolen on a April 4th😖 and after going thru all the headache with the claim. On Saturday I picked up my new bike😁... I'm happy now, but this time I'm going to put chains on top chains, locks everywhere.....
secure it in a populated area too, or one that has cameras or lights. oh i'd also jerry rig a few trackers in a special internal compartment in the bike. on the other hand, psychological deterrents like a loud ass alarm or flashing lights (at night)
Hi! Got some tips for you: 1. Consider to lock two chain in the same good U-locks. and use extra light wait pad lock to lock motorcycle driving chain (on right side of moto) there is a cogwheel, and locking that chain will brake if padlock will not be taken off. This is not super safe, but it's hard to notice and thief might miss this and be surprised :-) 2. I also put an Android phone in to moto. and in Google I can trace it's location by GMS not GPS. GPS signal need "open space"
@@dimicha I have old mobile phone with Android (plus new number). I hide mobile under the seat, LTE on, Location ON, battery save ON, Log in to Google account on mobile and that is it. You can open google on PC or other mobile phone go to account, log to account with the phone in Moto is in, and you have there option, "safety, or security" not sure how it in ENG. you can select from there "trace lost phone" and Google will show location of your phone,
To be honest it's just an average sized backpack and seems to do an excellent job at carrying all the chains and my other stuff I use on a daily basis.
Neither of those chains can stand up to large bolt cutters, especially when they are on the ground, where you can double the pressure on the bolt cutters with one grip on the ground and BOTH hands on the other side. Put the chain and lock up high so a thief loses that leverage. Use hardened chain with a square cross section like Pewag, 12mm (1/2 inch) and a lock known to be very hard to pick like Abus, Assa, or Medeco. The 12mm Pewag chain will break bolt cutters. Of course, portable cut-off grinders negate all these measures. Buy good insurance and don't store your Rolex under the seat.
Danny McCune the first chain he is using is bigger than 12mm. The mammoth is 10mm. 12mm can be bolt cropped. Quickest option for the thieves is to use angle grinder and impact tools. Currently I'm using x4 double wall ground anchors with x4 1metre 19mm security chain, x2 16mm disc locks, live tracking, abus granit front disc lock with 14mm pin, oxford alarmed disc lock 16mm.
Another tip would be park it in a are of high foot traffic close as you can get to the door with blocking anyone or anything. Its hard lowkey grind a lock of if the sparks are hitting people. The store CCTV will turn them off too ;)
KING - True, but my bike was stolen mid-afternoon in Central London, outside a busy coffee shop, overlooked by a shop CCTV... they really don't care! That video I linked to shows just what they're like...
I really wanted to get an mt07 this summer but man that bike is a target. Gonna get a Honda cb500fa now as it's less flashy, plus it has amazing mpg for when I commute.. London is a fu*king joke mate in comparison to somewhere like Barcelona. They've got bikes on every single street corner with only steering locks. Makes me upset.
I myself was thinking of getting the cb500f prior to my MT07, it's a really good bike. If only we had the same environment towards bike theft as Barcelona.
this is truly a shame. I just moved from Seoul to London and I'm scared to buy a bike after watching all those theft videos.... In Seoul literally noone will touch your 20k Ducati with keys in the ignition for months until the police slams the 'unauthorized parking' ticket on the windshield
Don't be silly that will get stolen just as much as any other bike Here in Central west london (ladbroke grove) they even steal pizza bikes, course theyl want a Honda (the most stolen brand)
I can see using a motorcycle security chain with a recumbant bicycle trike. It probably would be over kill. Tambien ill get a few for one. Cheers from Alabama USA
One problem which I’ve not been able to find many answers to is how to stop bump or forcing the ignition with a screwdriver. Got mine all tied up like a fort but some knut forced a driver into the ignition and caused me about 200 quid and a week without the bike. Any ideas?
