many many thanks for this great tutorial! after watching it, was finally able to set my 4" tubeless tires on my Farley, that trick of wrapping a 2" tube around it to generate pressure was absolutely perfect, worked like a charm. great vid and thanks for posting.
Very impressive, methodical job. Really helpful and refreshing to see care taken with this setup. My favorite bit, "This isn't a rush job." - That's a man who takes pride in his work.
Awesome trick with the 26" tube, I converted my fatbike over to tubeless but have ridden it 6 months with tubes and nothing I did could get the tire sidewalls to stay over against the rim....I wrestled with it for like 60 mins trying dozens of things. This literally worked first try popped the bead right in!
Many videos I have seen now and many just discard that important piece that you really need I'm glad I have found your video and go tubeless without worry to seat and leakless
Thank you very much. Just bought a Mongoose Dolomite ALX and want to go tubeless. This video is very helpful. Now I have to find where to buy tape. Maxxis tires are nice but would rather have white letters instead of yellow. White looks better with black rims.
I got a 27.5" tube after wrestling a studded tire for 20 mins. These 45north tires are just pure evil, they are super stiff, and leaves half an inch of gap between the tire and rim. They also love to fold and preferably dismount the tire in the process! After getting the tube over, it did ofc not work at all. The only thing that worked in the past(credit to yet naother YT video) was to use a tire lever to carefully drag the sidewalls to the bead from a few inches before the valve to the opposite side of the valve, repeat on the other side going the other direction. ...However, this is pure torture; Very fatiguing on the fingers(I guess climbers would do good here), and quite often, the bead slips while you do it, so you have to restart many times. I actually resorted to use liquid chalk, instead of soap, to make the bead more likely to not slip. This is the third year im swapping tires, and I dread this so much, i'm just going to capitulate and use tubes instead. Most likely just me sucking at this, but for reference, mounting cush core and tubeless on my moutian bikes is a breeze in comparison!
Hello again, I have the Sun Ringle Mulefut 80SL rims and will be mounting Jumbo Jims tubeless. Firstly is the Orange Seal rim tape as thin as the white plumbers undertape you used? The reason I ask is I'm investigating using Sun Ringle 78mm tubeless rim tape as the undertape (in place of your white tape) and putting a FattyStripper over that. Obviously I'd still have the rim strip underneath both for the cutouts. The FattyStripper is apparently quite thin however I'm wondering if this would still be too built up to pop on the bead. Thank you!
para mi son las mejores cubiertas que hay de Fat Bike. yo las compré y no quiero otras tienen un taco impresionante y son muy duras. las recomiendo para todo aquel que quiera cambiar de cubiertas en su Fat saludos
How many ounces of sealent should I use on a 26 x 4 and a 26 x 4.5? Also thanks for the detailed video. Too many tutorials just rush and make things appear much similar than they are. Love the trick with the tube too, that takes care of my biggest concern.
Excellent instructional, thank you. A question, why can we not use two layers of Orange Seal tape instead of one layer of the the white pumping tape and one layer of Orange Seal? Does the Orange Seal not provide a good enough seal for the bottom layer? That would seem strange given that's what it's designed for.
Good question. Back when we made this video, a good tape wide enough to fit a fatbike rim was hard to find. The Orange Seal tape keeps the tyre sealed, then we used the white tape to act more as a support layer to minimize the bulging through the holes in the rim. The main reason for this is that the Orange Seal tape is more like a plastic than rubber tape so it didn't stretch as well. If the rim doesn't have the cutouts then this isn't a problem.
i feel like ten minutes prior to closing the shop owner came to you and said, "hey mechanic guy, do a DIY fat tubeless video before you go." I feel ya bro......i feel ya.....
hi had to put in a red liner for my EBIKE never ever got a hole in the tube right pain for a newbee to do i can tell you i have 1000watt ebike you need one if you use the bike for work all the time bob
Great video thanks. One question: The tape is right up to the edge of the inner rim? Seems to be some debate about whether to do this, or whether just to use tape wide enough to cover spoke holes? Thanks.
I really love the detailed explanation you give , I would definitely trust you with my fatbike ,! I want to ask you something, I am having trouble finding a rim strip for my fat bike, it's a 26 4'9 tire, I am not looking to go tubeless, just want to change it from black to a nice sea blue that I think will go really nice with the red color of the bike, I want to reserve the brand , the rim is 85mm , I'd really appreciate any suggestions. Thankyou much in advance.
If you're not going tubeless a good quality coloured duct tape will do. You can get gorilla tape in lots of different colours. Wrap a strip around your wrim with the colour facing out so you can see it. Then wrap another strip around that, glue to glue, so your old rim tape doesnt stick to the duct tape. I suggest putting the old rimtape on again as it will be tougher than the tape and it will help protect your tube.
Thankyou , I have moved on from my previous fat bike , I have another beautiful fat bike with 5.05 wide tires , VEE TIRE Snowshoe 2XL with 100 mm rims ,am thinking on going tubeless to shed some weight off the bike . Wish your shop was close by .Could you let me know what are the pros and cons of a tubeless tire aside from taking weight off the bike ?id appreciate it .
There are tubeless schrader valves out there available for purchase. I occasionally come across flat tubes with fully threaded schrader valves in the shop. I cut the valves out of the tubes with a scissors, leaving a good rubber flange on them, and I've been using those without issue for a couple years now. So yes, it is possible.
Quality Work... Yet, as an engineer who hasn't done the math, or weighed all the components, How much mass is really saved when using (Strip + Tape + Tape + Sealant + Valve) over just One Tube...?
To be honest, we don't pay a massive amount of attention to grams. Kilos yes, but the main reason for going tubeless is puncture resistance, not weight saving. Fatbike tubes can be very heavy, but so can 10floz of sealant and a couple layers of tape.
@@ralfrufus6573 I'd wager your tire pressure is too high then, and you ride on some nice terrain. Just because you're not aware of problems doesn't mean they aren't there.
You chould try this with Surly tyres, My Edna are so loose i have to used foam to keep the tyre wall against the rim bead. Fantastic tyre when on but a cunt to fit. See Ison Distrobution for surly stuff.
I somehow feel obligated to go tubeless on my fat bike even if I have never had any issues with it. I do have a great fear for getting a flat, especially since I often ride at 1-3AM in iffy neighborhoods. I wish there was an exact science to this tubeless business, but so far all I've been seeing is homegrown methods. I don't think I'll find mechanics at my local bike shops with the diligence of this guy. It is unlikely that Pedro at my shop will be able to keep one keen eye on cutting that strip while the other eye is on the door looking out for an ICE raid.
great video I will be converting my fat bike to tubeless.... but I don't think wearing headphones while watching was a great idea especially when you trimmed off the excess tape.
When you say glue do you mean the sealant? We put the sealant in through the valve at around 14 minutes in the video. Other people pour the sealant into the tyre before inflating it.
I'm no expert but I think that it is like any other wheel, just wider. I hope this helps. It takes some practice. I have trued my own wheels after watching videos and being careful but many just take a bent wheel to the local bike shop. No shame in that, either. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ww48YLhAiRI.html
Randy Geyer tubeless is great for 99% of punctures but if you get a bad rip in the tyre, tubes or tubeless, you’re going to get a flat. That’s why it’s always a good idea to carry a spare tube if you can, just in case you get a puncture that the sealant can’t fix.
What is the benefit of going tubeless? I have asked this same question on several channels and NO ONE has answered it. Either I'm missing something or there are no real benefits.
The Gee-tah Guy you can run lower tyre pressures, getting more grip without the risk of pinch flats. The sealant inside the tyre also helps prevent punctures
Going tubless has its benefits. It rules out pinch flats, small cuts and thorn puncture will seal up with sealant. You can ride with lower tyre pressure. Wheels are lighter going tubless.
For example, we live in the California Sierras and are surrounded by goathead thorns and sharp rocks. With tubless, we can run a lighter-weight tire casing, get better grip and handling, and save ourselves the hassle of pinch and puncture flats, plus we lose the weight of the tube (although sealant and tape adds some back).
It does. We went from daily flats on the kids' bike to one burp flat in a year's time after my oldest didn't listen to me telling him to air up his tires for a month straight. It's great for goatheads, specifically.
Great idea but gees, you wouldn't want to make a "mistake", now would you? Cutting those edges correctly and applying all that tape correctly (not easy) is a MUST. Not for the novice, I reckon.
Thats the only fat bike tyre Ive seen that is tight to the rim! tubeless is easy with tl tyres and tubes,you do this on sum shitty combi,even if you manage to get the bead to seat when you let air out again to put sealant in,the bead will break off because some tyres have such shitty fitment
The schwalbe tyres that come on the Kona Wo are tubeless ready. When the bead is seated properly to get a seal against the rim it can be tough to pop off.
My wife is having a baby 🤰 I would like to know if your available as a midwife you seem to be pretty good 😌 with your hands 🙌 and probably cheaper than a hospital 🏥
Meanwhile i changed 6 times tube and tire. On the ride....still do, when flat. And with tubeless you're doomed. Not everything what is fancy makes sense.
If you do your initial set-up properly, you won't be fixing flats mid-ride unless you don't add sealant periodically, don't ever check your pressure, or you totally destory your tire. Plus, you can always keep a spare boot and tube if you need to get you home, but if it's that bad, it's new tire time and a tube wouldn't have saved you in the first place anyway. Fixing flats every day due to rocks and thorns is a waste of time. Worse bike handling because you have to ride higher pressure isn't a badge of honor. Lastly, fancy is not the same word as different. Trouble yourself to learn how to set-up tubeless and it's fine. Keep riding your beach cruiser with tubes in the mountains, though, I'm sure it's awesome.
I've had 1 flat in 4 years of riding tubeless, and it's because I thought I had refreshed my sealant on that bike, but hadn't, and I caught a heavy duty staple. I was still able to ride 2 miles between pumping it back up because you can ride on 5psi on a 45c tire in an emergency when you're tubeless. It rides like crap, but at least you can make it home. Made it home, refreshed my sealant, and all was well again. If I had good sealant when I caught the staple, it would've sealed right up and not been an issue at all. Point being, I'll take one flat every 4 years over a flat a month or more every single time. Another testimonial: look up goat heads or puncture vine. We have a ton of them where I live, and they are the primary source of flat tires here. Twice now I've accidentally hit a plant on my fat tire bike and gotten 30-40 of those little assholes in each tire. What happened next? Nothing. I finished the last 10 miles and nothing happened. The sealant sealed up the holes and I kept riding without issue. No flats. No repairs. It was completely fine. I didn't even pull the thorns, just clipped the seed pods off when I got home, and left the thorns right in the tire. They're still in there today, plus whatever else I've picked up. You might want to reconsider your position on tubeless. It really is far superior in every possible way to tubes. If you're worried about a flat, you shouldn't be. But if you are, you can still carry a spare tube with you. I did the first year. Eventually, after never needing it, I stopped bothering. Cheers.
You dont need to be so care ful with tapeing and cuttng the rim strip its all irrelevant the only thing that matters is how tight the tire fits before you air it.
You need to be careful cutting the tape because if it blocks the tyre bead from sitting correctly into the rim the tyre can pop off the rim, streaching the bead and rendering the tyre useless.
It is ridiculous and pathetic to put that much time and effort into tubeless. I never had problems with tubes, so why o why all this shitting around this tubless hype? Like seen making a tire tubeless is a pain in the ass. For what? Don't you have any other problems?
Good for you that you haven't had a problem with tubes. Others have, like pinch flats and thorns, which is why they choose to go tubeless. Converting a fatbike wheel to tubeless is very easy now as better tape has been brought to the market since making this video.
