I got two new Nest wifi's leaving me three old, Gen1, Google mesh wi-fi's. I factory reset 2 of the Gen 1's and had trouble getting them onto the new wi-fi. One I eventually managed by connecting a CAT 5 from the new Nest to a splitter, and from the splitter into the WWW of the Gen 1. That worked (thank goodness). I still haven't tried this method with the other Gen 1 that I factory reset (and was having similar problems with) but I just tried the third Gen 1 without resetting and simply tried to get it onto the Nest mesh - it worked first time, no problems at all. Go figure!? Thanks for this series of videos, especially the one showing how to factory reset these items; you wouldn't believe the amount of searching I done until I eventually came across your channel. ("Rooter" Used to say the same myself before moving to the US)
So just to be clear: you can't add a Nest Wifi Point to an existing previous generation Google Wifi Mesh Network, but you CAN add previous Google Wifi Points to a new generation Nest Wifi network?
Interesting question. I can't see why it would not work, but in the next couple of weeks I will be filming how to factory reset a Google Nest Wifi network. So when I do I will try building a Google Wifi mesh network and then try to add the Google Nest Wifi point to it. I'll let you know what happens.
Over the weekend, I finally managed to get around to re-creating a 1st Gen Google WiFi mesh network. So can confirm that you can indeed, add a Nest WiFi Point to an existing 1st Generation Google WiFi mesh network. However in order to do this, you will need to use the Google Home App. Then when you try and setup the Nest WiFi Point, the Google Home app will automatically move your Google WiFi network to the Google Home app. I thought that as it's a useful tip to know, it might be good to make a video regarding the process. So please look out for it in the coming months.
It might work, but in this article Google recommend five wifi points in a single mesh support.google.com/wifi/answer/7182840?hl=en-GB. I think more than five might start to overload the mesh networks wifi backhaul. If you do try setting up 7 please let us know if it works.
I think you are asking about using a wired backhaul. If that is the case, then the answer is yes. However because of the way mesh networking works, you will need to ensure that your wiring has been correctly setup. Have a look at this Google document on the topic - support.google.com/wifi/answer/7215624?hl=en-GB
After 24 hours with the new Nest Wifi Router and numerous legacy APs (points), my network became unstable. No amount of factory reset or other solutions helped. The only thing that worked, and worked immediately, was to remove the legacy points. With one Nest Router and 5 Nest Points, the network is stable.
Thanks for the feed back. I think I should have mentioned in the video that Google recommend a maximum of five wifi points on a single network, as "adding more may be detrimental to Wi-Fi performance" - support.google.com/googlenest/answer/7182840?hl=en-GB
Hi, I’m trying to connect my Google Wifi point to my existing Google Nest Wifi network.. However, upon setting up the setup key, I’m unable to connect to my Google Wifi point that I’m trying to add. Do you know why is that happening? Any idea how to solve my issue? I’ve tried to factory reset everything but still experiencing the same issue..
It sounds like you will have to perform a process of elimination. As you have already factory reset everything. My first thought is that wireless interference is causing the problem. So make sure that your Google WiFi point is close (ie one or two feet) from your Google Nest WiFi router. Another trick that might be worth trying (I have never done this myself, so I don't really know if it would work) is to connect the Google WiFi point to your Google Nest WiFi Router using a network cable. Then once you have run through the setup process to link the units together, remove the cable so that the two units connect wirelessly. Hope these suggestions help
Hello there. I'm having trouble setting up my google wifi router (1st gen) and Google nest router. I have two routers. They were both working fine until one day I had to disconnect my internet modem from the wall, I had to remove my TV. Since then my Google nest router is not being able to add to network. In the google home app when I try to add the device it just simply takes me back to the same screen: it says what are you trying to connect to.
Don't forget that you now have to use the Google Home app and not the Google WiFi app. This is because the Google WiFi app has now been deprecated. While I can't see a reason why your Nest router should not link to your existing Google WiFi network. I would be tempted to try factory resetting both devices and then trying to setup my wireless network again. However this time I would connect the newer Google Nest Router to my internet modem, and then configure it so that the Nest Router was the primary node in my mesh network. I would then add the old Google WiFi router as a mesh node. As I think this configuration should work better and might even give you slightly better network performance. Hope this helps.
@@mydoodads Yes I am using the Google Home App. I figured it out. If you have two google routers 1st gen and nest router. You have to connect the nest router to your internet modem. Only then it will show up in the Google Home App. And then you can add it as a point.
@@mydoodads I was able to resolve my issue. What I did was in order to connect two google routers you have to connect it to your modem. I was not doing this before and it was giving me errors. Once I connected it to the main router. The router showed up in the Google Home App and I was able to scan QR code to set it up. Now my 2nd generation nest router has been setup as point. I really hope that Google releases wifi 6 version of the mesh setup. It’s about time now, I want to upgrade. Since I have two routers I’m not buying the google wifi point yet. Thanks for the quick reply.
Also I’ve noticed that since I have two networks in my home. My main ISP modem and the Google Mesh setup. I see a difference of about 100 mbps. My ISP modem which signals out the 5G network band. It is 100 mbps faster than google mesh connection. I have 500 mbps connection speed at home. Any thoughts on this?
@@Arsenal64 The speed a wireless network can transfer data is heavily effected by how far away you are from a wireless access point. Basically the weaker the signal, the slower the data transfer speeds will be. So if you happen to be closer to your ISP routers wifi than you are from your google wifi router, that might explain the speed differences. Another factor to take into consideration is wireless signal interference. You have two separate networks in close proximity to each other. If the wireless signals are overlapping each other. That could effect your data transfer speeds. Try connecting to each wireless network and see which channels they are broadcasting on. You don't want them both to be on say channel 11. Also based of personal anecdotal evidence, I find that single wireless routers often perform better than a mesh network. Im not sure if this is related to a mesh networks wifi backhaul, or that mesh routers often broadcast slightly weaker wireless signals.
While a Google Nest WiFi router uses AC2200, and a Google WiFi uses AC1200. Any advantages to adding a Nest WiFi router to your existing network will be fairly minimal. advantagewill So if you are basically happy with your Google WiFi network, I would wait until Google release a WiFi 6 model.
Good afternoon, this is my first post and I have a question. I have a google wifi mesh system. I have 7 points set up with three as wired. Depending on where i am in the house I get full good to great speeds on all points, nothing in the middle. The key is the come straight off a modem to the first google wifi point (acts as router), ethernet back to a switch then to other points or devices. I have a 8 way switch off the main router so I can hardwire my office devices. Then ethernet up to a second (5 way switch) and two upstairs units are hardwired. With three hardwired I get great coverage all over the house. I can usually pull down 100+MB/S on any device. My question is this: I know I can replace the main unit with a newer Nest Wifi Router and connect the Google wifi points to it. But will this increase my speeds or is it a waste of money? I don't need the coverage as I have 3 bars on my phone anywhere I go. Just looking to increase the speed. Thoughts? thx
As data is able to travel through your wireless network at 100+MB/S, it sounds like your wifi network is performing really well. I think this is mostly because you have a wired backhaul running through your mesh network. So I doubt that adding a newer Nest WiFi router to your existing setup, would add any major speed improvements. Personally, I would save my money and wait for future hardware that uses WiFi 6 or 6e.
Is it possible to get another 1st gen router (router A) and connect it to the router connected to the modem (router B) via ethernet? I'd like to get as close to a gigabit as possible and extending the wifi only gets me about a 10th of the speed. Would wiring router A to B with an ethernet cable solve this issue? I haven't seen anyone ask this yet. Thanks!
Yes its possible. It's something called Ethernet Backhaul. However, you need to be careful with how you set it up. This Google article might help - support.google.com/wifi/answer/7215624?hl=en-GB
3 года назад
Hey quick question, the 1st gen Google Wifi, is it the router (where you plug the LAN cable)? or is it just a Wifi Point? I have a Nest Wifi and I need to expand my network more in order to reach certain places of my home. Buying a 1st gen Google router is cheaper than a Google wifi point.
All first gen Google WiFi nodes can act as either a router or a WiFi point. However in my example, im just adding a google WiFi node to acting as a WiFi point. This is because I have already setup a google nest WiFi network which consists of a nest WiFi router and a nest WiFi point. Hope that helps to answer your query.
3 года назад
Great, so if I buy a google wifi router I can set it up as a point...
It’s worth noting that WiFi points can’t be more than roughly two rooms away from each other. So until you get all the nodes working in a mesh, try keeping them next to each other. Then once you have a mesh network try positioning the nodes around your home. If a wifi point reports its too far, try moving it closer until it connects.
@@mydoodads Apparently for some odd reason, I needed to use one specific google wifi puck as the router/primary. Everytime I tried using the new nest wifi I bought as the primary and moving all the pucks beside it to set it up it always said it was too far or out of range. Then when I tried two of the old google wifi pucks the new network created never showed up successfully. It is also to note that the my 3 original Google Wifi pucks were part of my internet plan as a bundle by the ISP. Also that the old google wifi puck that worked as the router had a unique setup label compared to the other two which had similar letters. So do you think the problem arose from maybe the ISP only authorizing the one specific google wifi puck to act as the router/primary? While barring every other device? Can that be plausible? Cause wow it was so frustrating doing trial and error again and again trying all the different pucks as the primary till finally getting one to work. Sorry for the long rant 😅
@@paog5310 The newer Google Nest WiFi system has two separate models. One model is a Router while the other is just a WiFi point and smart speaker. While they basically look the same. The router has holes near its base for the speaker. So iWhichunfortunately As you mention, the work around is to use one of your older Google WiFi nodes as a router (the older model allows any node to be used as a router) and then add your newer Google Nest WiFi point to the network it creates. Everything will work fine with this method. Hfor Google Nest WiFi so that there are two separate elements that do different things.
@@mydoodads yup i did as you said except the fact that even if the older model allows any node to be used as a router, only one of them worked (the one with a unique setup label name) while the other two failed setup (which both had similar setup label names) as when a wifi was created through google home never appeared on my devices' radar which is odd. so i used the one specific google wifi node as my router and added back the 2 old nodes as well as my newly bought google nest wifi router to the mesh for a total of 4, removing all dead spots from my home. thank you for your help and swift replies! great videos btw way better than google support
