yes love everyone of them, american classics !! todays trucks can never compare glad i grew up driving these trucks and still have a quadbox till this day
OK you Mack lovers. In 47 years I driven lots of Macks including the 12 speed. Nobody has ever shown me how to shift that deep reduction shifter mounted on the dash. I have tried every thing to get a smooth silky shift. Is it possible? Or is everybody happy to just grind it?
@@SternDrive So there is a deep reduction hidden in there somewhere? I've been wondering how a 5-speed with lo & hi (5 x 2 = 10) could produce 12 speeds.
The only one I ever drove had a short handle on the floor for the deep reduction. I was told it was mainly for working in a gravel pit where you needed power and low speeds for pulling. We also had a bunch of 350's with 10 speeds and a deep reduction switch mounted on the top of the dash. We used them pulling two trailers on the Thruway. @@SternDrive
15 years ago i got a job driving dump truck for the first time after driving a long time cross country over the road 18 speed trucks . I first drove a 1987 Mack Superliner very similar to the one your driving , it had a 650 Detroit motor , my god that truck had power , fully loaded with dirt T & T 55-60 mph up steep mountain pass while others only 25-30 lol . Today i still drive dump truck for a big union construction company here in seattle i drive a 2020 Kenworth T880 and yep it’s a automatic lol . Great job on this instructional video my brotha 👊🏻🇺🇸
Cool! I just recently got a chance to hop into one of our older tractors with a Fuller 10 speed and took it for a spin around the parking lot. Didn't get out of 3rd but it did make me smile! And surprised (shocked?!) the guys hanging around the garage. I drove coach buses for almost 20 years and my last stick was only 6 speed. But I could shift that thing like a hot knife thru butter! I listened to the old timers and learned my lessons well. Driving any older vehicle with manual gears means that you need to listen and most important, feel your way into the gears. Stay safe out there and I'll try to wave if I get up your way!
Thank you for great video! I started with good ole' cabover Mack F700 Maxidyne with 375hp and 15 gears shifter similar like your!5 speed low+5speed high+5 speed reverse! It was a great truck and very comfortable!That truck could anything without a problem!
I just watched this one Mike. Like you mentioned, it’s like a 10 speed-actually a Super 10. I have only ever driven one Mack-they aren’t common on the West Coast where I came from, but I like the look, especially the older ones. Thanks for making this video bud.
Definitely a good video to make! I remember my first day when I started at Blair, I drove the bosses pride and joy Mack Superliner and I had never drove a Mack 12. He showed me real quick and I was off to the races. Definitely intimidating if you’re used to a newer truck with an 18 speed or an 8LL dump truck haha.
Wow...what memories this video brings back! Decades ago, I drove the one-and-only Mack Superliner (in the fleet) of Sharkey Transportation (Qunicy, IL)...nobody else wanted "any part of it", so I jumped at the opportunity (truck once belonged to a guy leased to Sharkey, hauling "swinging meat" to the West Coast). All Mack...front-to-back, top-to-bottom...had the time of my life!
If you drive in Boston on a daily basis in a truck, you arent going to lose your cool over being on camera...lol. This is the difference between a professional and steering wheel holders.
Love it! Learned how to drive manual on my dad’s ‘94 Kenworth tri-axle. Clutch never hit the floor and I went through every “cheater” gear there was. Safe driving and hopefully see you this summer at Gear Jammer.
Have an 83 round light. Love that truck. Always amazed me how the each of the older Mack’s had there own personality. They trained you how to drive them!!
I lived in Foxboro in the winter of 2010-2011 when Boston got so much snow that they were literally trucking it out Gilette stadium in rigs like yours. Brings back lots of fond memories!
Good no bullshit clip ,keep safe mate ,V8 Macks are still a legend truck in Australia,many doing a lot of hard work with three trailers behind them in the Outback.
glad to see another Mack vid old school will always rule. have tried to float the twins in my Diamond T 980 but the detent on the 1940's Fuller main box is so tight you got to smack it in and out but the aux is smooth so lass to say i am a half rookie and use the clutch lol
Well done. I had an 81 R-700 log truck with a 12 spd. It's evident that you take great pride in your career. Clean truck, smooth shifts and not a jake brake shifting cowboy. Thanks for posting these vids.
@@TheBostonTrucker I drove a Mack like this many years ago. We were pulling Tridem belly dumps, and the job often required that we go very fast in reverse. Of course these trucks had 5 reverse gears. I have never been all the way up to 5th reverse, but I have been in 4th reverse many times. You better know how to back in these situations.
For some reason I'm reminded of the 2013 Mack my dad drove for a few years. With the tank empty it would get up and run with that 6 speed auto but fully loaded that beast couldn't even get out of its own way.
Your granddaddy taught you right I had an old farmer friend that taught me the same I went to get in the passenger seat an he said nope what are you doin get in the drivers seat I was like what he said you aren’t gonna learn if you don’t get in the drivers seat an do it yourself I was like um yes sir 🤣
Great job thanks for posting!! I have always liked the Super Puppies. I'd like a video of the R-600, a good friend of mine had a 72 R-600 he hauled chemicals with ( it had been a Chemical Leman tractor ), his had a 6 cyl Mack Engine with a 5 speed gearbox, also a throttle lock for running the pump for offloading, the Superliner and R-600 cabs always appeared to have the same sheetmetal of course a different nose and updated interior.
Loved the video. I'm a trucker from the frozen tip of Maine. Them old Mack's are hard to find glad to see not all are in the scrap yard yet. First transmission I learned on wasn't nearly as technical as that. Learned to drive on an Eaton 10spd then my friend tried me out on his 02 Pete 379 with the 15 Spd. Both are rookie numbers compared to that since it almost works like a Lightning 10 which screw you up.
I've used Mack boxes from the old twin stick quad boxes to the 12 speed in this video and the best thing I can tell you is don't get too stressed about it all. Try things, experiment, and always, always, watch your revs and if you remember everything that didn't work, you'll soon have everything that DID work stenciled on your brain. Then one day, you'll be heading up the track, changing gears without thinking about and suddenly wonder when it got so easy. Those old Mack boxes were just the best and every time I see a Mack with a Road Ranger in it, all I can think is, "Why?"
Great job on the video and sweet Mack! I'm not a trucker but would love to have an old R Model just to play around with for nostalgia and maybe a toy hauler. My granddad owned a logging company and a fleet of Macks when I was little. My dad taught me how to drive his 1982 R Model with 6 speed twin stick when I was 10 and I would drive it around my granddads shop for a couple of years until he sold the truck.
I knew my fair share of truckers in my lifetime, and when I am on the highway, I give a good three to four car lengths and lots of signal when passing/maneuvering around the big-rigs, I don't usually interact with them entering or exiting the highway, but when I see them coming on, I move over and make way for them, my little car is a lot easier to maneuver and stop than a loaded big-rig.
Nice driving and a cool old truck! That gearbox works a lot like the one on my old Scania. Only thing´s the Scanias gearbox is syncronized so you have to use the clutch when shifting. The splitter works like a pre-select. You select low or direct and then it shifts when you depress the clutch.
Thanks for this video. Very informative and enjoyed watchin'. Working on my CDL, startin' on Monday. Really enjoyin' the content, and any tips and tricks for a new driver would be great. One day, I'll own one these ol' Mack trucks, or a GMC. 👍🏻
After watching this guy row thru those gears... Shit I feel as if I could drive a 12 speed and not mess up! Great video instructional and play by play on the gears and switching.
If I have to take a shit and if I will clutch in, everyone knows what will happen, just shift´em in without clutch :D It takes a little bit of practice, but in full synchromesh 5speed manual you can shift without clutch too.. but carefull, because if you´ll grind´em too much, synchros will go to the hell :D
@@piter_sk A szinkronizált váltóval kibasol,ha kuplung nélkül erőlteted a váltást..Ha kopott a váltó akkor segíthetsz neki a gázfröccsel váltásnál..felfelé kb 150-200 fordulat ,visszaváltásnál 200-250 fordulat..Ha még jó állapotú a váltó akkor ez annyira nem jó mert a szinkrongyűrűknek magasabb fordulatról kell lefékezni a fogaskerekeket..Remélem jól értettem amit angolul írtál..
@@zsoltlukacs8438 sorry Zsolt, Im not Hungarian, my grand grand father was from Nagy Czéteny (Veľký Cetín) and I have just surname from him :) but I will translate it... after translation - those synchrone rings as you have called it, allright, pushing on stick for so long can damage them.... but why would I push or pull on stick for so long when I already know when i need to get in into gear with no resistance from synchro rings ;)
This brings back memories when I hauled coal out of solar sourse coal mine. I first started out in a 66 mack 250 horse. The I went to a 400 horse . The last truck I drove was a 427 mack with a ten speed wrap around.
LOL, had to laugh when you said "for the life of me I can't imagine why you'd want to shift gears in reverse". I know what you mean. Years ago I owned an '83 Cruiseliner with a 6-speed (I was hauling HHG), and it was set up the same way. I was pulling a 48-ft van, I may have shifted in reverse once, it was too tricky. Once or twice I went all the way to top gear in reverse, bobtailing through the yard, just to see what it was like. Too scary, probably got up to 25 or 30 in reverse. This is a good video, good explanation of the whole process. It's just not as much fun driving the new automatics now.
I was doing paving work with a mack transmission with numerous reverse gears. Backing to the paver was handy with multi speed reverse, I could actually keep up with those new fangled automatics.
As someone who drives dump truck as well as flatbed and lowboy, many times we have to back into the paver with asphalt and if there isn't anywhere to turn, we can end up backing up for a mile or two or three. Then being able to shift gears in reverse is incredibly handy.
After driving school that was the transmission in the truck I drove for my first job. RS600 235hp dump truck. It was a great transmission. Then they put me in a RS600 with a 15 speed and 315hp. Then a RS600 with 10 speed snd 350hp. Hated that transmission with a passion. Now 35 years later I’m happy as can be with my 18 speed.
Thats a cool video, my dad is a truck driver here in Scotland. 1st time ive ever seen shifting in reverse. I love the American trucks, to big for the British roads right enough. Always wanted to drive them but my dad told me to get a trade so unfortunately i just have to watch you guys 👍
I used to drive an ERF with a twin splitter. Very similar, if my memory is right, it had three positions on the splitter switch though and 4 selectable “gears” in the gate. Only used the clutch for starting and stopping
My dad had R models when he was in business. Oh I remember the look of disappointment when I’d scratch a gear when he was teaching me how to drive. “If you can’t find ‘em, grind ‘em.” Great memories with pops
Love your videos! Basically like you said it’s a glorified Super 10.....the shifting gears in reverse is pretty cool though....drove an old R model with a two stick 6 speed before and I loved it! I have a real appreciation for cool old trucks and drivers who take pride in their trucks and their job! Well done driver!
After all the years of driving Mack r’s and all kinds of trucks with door mounted mirrors, I never thought to open the door to check for traffic. I see that truck has the good old pull kill. Kids today would probably have no idea how shut it down lol.
Paving companies use multiple reverse gears so when they are backing up to the hopper at a good distance away they can go faster to keep up with the run
@@TheBostonTrucker Hand throttle stand on tank step to back up Cattle Pots. Backing 379 into a farmer's field entrance. to load cattle. That will separate the men from the boys. Love your videos
@@danvonbehren4852 you should see some of the lots my friends drive in and around garden city, KS they always seem to have to raise the end dump in order to clear turns
I always liked Kenworths because the mirrors weren't mounted to the doors. When I was pulling rolloff trailers I did a lot of backing up and getting in and out of the cab.
As far as double clutching, I've been driving 40 years. I learned double clutching and still do it. As my Dad said "If they didn't want you to use the clutch, they would put an automatic in it." He's still driving after 60 years.
I was taught to double clutch, I still do when I need to but I’d say half the time I use no clutch, that’s when I’m on a flat and have some momentum. I’ll still clutch shifting up or down when drivelines “loaded up”, but if I can slide the shifter out and back in without any force I don’t use the clutch.
Sometimes it's easier to downshift with the clutch like going slightly down hill or working with traffic. Without the clutch, and slight pressure against the next gear; some trucks down shift very naturally this way, some don't. Every truck is different. No issues with floating if it doesn't require but two fingers of pressure - then you're doing it right too.
Yield really means to let the vehicle through, so you merge over to the next lane which is signalling to the traffic behind you have yielded. After yielding, you just merge back on the lane you were on. Yield, let em through. Merge, just changing lanes mindin my business.
not sure about merica but in canada you " yield to oncoming traffic who are merging onto the highway " depends if your coming or going.lol plus i learnt to use the whole length of the merge lane and not just cut in. love the accent! hate the hockey team !! cheers from vancouver
Neat video mate you're a good driver. These old 12 speed Mack Superliners though sound their best when towing a loaded triple road train of side tippers or flat tops. From the Great Southern Land of Australia
Best mack trans ever made... nice job showing the sequence. just a note. the air splitter on the stick shifts between direct and Hi (and reverse) the dash switch is the extended range for "LO"... LO was only needed for extreme heavy or slow speeds . IIRC when in Lo was only used in the first gear position.mack used slightly different terminology than eaton fuller... great videos and keep up the good work
The only 12 speed I ever drove was the one before the dash switch for the LO-Lo, it had d, od and R on the valve on the main stick and then a “mud stick” for deep reduction like the 6 speeds had.
And I'm sure like the super 10 there's plenty that hate them. Never did I understand the hatred for the super 10 transmission. Most people say "that's too much splitting with each gear". I think they are fun to drive.
Stumbled across this last night while watching TV with the Princess, I went turn it off as I though she wouldn't be interested, "what did you do that for, I was learning to drive Mrs Mack" that's what my old Mack is called I almost never use 1st at all and start off in second low, 3rd low, 4th low, 4th high, 5th low, 5th high and we are rolling at 35 MPH lol Dunno if you spilt all the gears to show how to drive it for your viewers or thats normal for you One thing that needs to be always remembered is that as soon as you flick the switch it is applying pressure to the selector fork and gears and wearing it out, a Roadranger only applies pressure when you shift the stick thru the neutral gate So a Mack box should only have the swittch flicked as your about to change and a Roadranger can be at any time Great video, I enjoy them Thank you
Thanks Paul for your feedback. I don't usually split all the gears, just when it's needed and you are correct, split during the shifting process which is something I learned after I made this video.
I’ve been getting this video recommended to me for months, I’m a truck driver so I watch truck videos. I kept ignoring it because I’m not a Mack guy. But boy I chose to watch it tonight and I love this guy
