Chris Liepe is the best RU-vid vocal teacher I’ve ever found. He’s actually practical and doesn’t just give you an exercise and then advertise paid courses. He gives you everything
@Pink Panther I hear ya... I do very much get far more from the lessons when I'm not tolerating some arrogant turkey who's yapping like you don't know and that's why you came to his video and blah blah.... well duh I came to watch because the topic was relevant... but that doesn't mean I wanna be talked to lile I'm just ignorant or lost... musicians and actors and athletes and politicians are very typical.. so it's appreciated to have respect from someone you offer your focus to... but I'd have that beer.. for sure... later cuzin.... lol
Before i listened to Jonny's stuff few years ago, i was trying not to grit/rasp because i thought it was bad. Now i'm belting that grit/rasp effortless and it feels awesome. Thanks Chris for showing people proper technique.
I have been a crazy big Jonny Craig fan for the past 10 years. I am now a classically trained choral music teacher and I have finally found my rasp! DO NOT GIVE UP ON YOURSELF!
I love this comment. I've been classically trained, musical theater trained... as much as I've loved being in choruses, it's just not where my heart is. But I just can't stop singing pretty.
I have been studying how Jonny Craig sings since he first inspired me to begin in late 2009. I pirated an incredible Learn To Sing course that was way too expensive for a kid like me at the time. These lessons I pirated make me feel lucky as they do what most youtube teachers dont do(Mainly because its boring) but it started with lessons on vocal pedagogy and what all goes into singing. I really think this is crucial for new singers and it really seems like Chris includes this in his free stuff, which is great. For people having a hard time figuring out how to engage your false cords, the false cords are what reinforce your vocal chords when you are doing any kind of singing in your mixed register. A great way to ensure you aren't dragging unneeded weight into your mixed register/high notes do a scale ascending from G2-A2, do a pentatonic scale, up and down. Do a vi sound(VEEE) and a vo (VOHG) at the top. so Vi VI VI VO VO(hold at the top, and now descend) VI VI VO VO. This will teach you to sing notes that are in high chest in mixed voice, and also help sing low head voice in mixed. This is crucial for being as agile as johnny but also being able to bring the power. After you know that feeling of your false cords supporting your actual vocal folds, you will be able to tighten or loosen them. Experiment a bit with it.
I don't know how to do this,, but it it kind of clicking in my mind. Such a weird way to explain it but it makes sense, thank you very much for typing all that out just to help
I’ve seen Jonny live with about every band he’s been in, solo included, and his voice can truly put you in every single emotion all at once. He has a real gift. Shame what he’s done, but I’ll never not love his voice.
Finally a proper video explaining rasp in the singing voice. Singing with rasp has always been the most natural thing for me but for years I've never been able to find a proper educational video explaining the technique behind rasp. So I've never understood how I did it and at many occasions that has caused pain and frustration for me. THANK YOU! Finally I understand what my body want to do when I sing and how I can safely turn that on and off. Again, thank you guys!
Congrats on Jonny's sobriety dude has such a gift and is a inspiration for a lot of vocalist same as Daryl Palumbo from GlassJaw there was a time when everyone wanted to sound like him even till this day!
With rasp, just sing as quietly as possible and include a lil whisper, but make it smoothe. You’ll get an airy rasp that you can control. ( I sang while my parents slept
The way I understand this, you accomplish things "in partnership" with your voice rather than by "commanding" your voice. Alas I think this would be one major difference between approaching classical guitar and singing. If you accomplish things from the standpoint of awareness and using technique that allow you to setup your voice to reach these results (and the process then changes each day or even across the day) while doing so healthily keeping in mind that like the rest of your body each day you have a slightly different starting point. This is just so very cool !!
Chris you’re the best vocal teacher, you really are….. my request is can you do a video on “old” rock ‘n’ roll screams.. Little Richard, Screaming Jay Hawkens, John Lennon (dizzy Miss Lizzie) James Brown, Jim Morrison, etc.
If you decide to do a video on old rock ‘n’ roll screams please don’t leave out the John Lennon scream in dizzy Miss Lizzie because that is the most useful old Rock ‘n’ roll scream that you hear on many many recordings.
Jonny is a great example for artist. He might not have the best reputation, but he has made decisions that shaped him and his voice. And boy is that voice great and beautiful.
Oh gosh. Finally. I'm tryin to learn how to use my false cords right. It took me about three months and so many videos of singers, or coaches, or you actually, teaching and explaining this. So I said to myself ,,ok, try to sing with distortion, because you like Alter bridge or A farewell fire." So I came here, and I finally got it. I've understood ,,the compression" thanks to you, because I tried what you've told in this video. Ironically trying to rasp and grit with my voice got me to the sweet spot of growling 🤣 but gosh. I have no abs, so they got tired really quick 🤣 at least I know I'm doing it right, because it sounds much more better than before. I finally feel it "in my cheeks" and my throat doesn't hurt. I made it wrong a couple of times and the pain was unbelievable. I stopped and tried it again. Now I understand and it felt so great, that it made me laugh from the happiness 😃 thanks again 🤘🏻
What he said at 2:44 MAY have just cracked the code for me. Instead of thinking about rasp, I'm thinking about "air on top of the otherwise clean tone."
This was really helpful, I have a natural raspy voice, and this made me discover differents aprochaches to that sound that I didn't knew it was possible with my own voice. Great as always Chris, thanks!
Raspy singers are interesting to me, as some have healthy habits and many do not. I go back to old interviews and performances (when they arent sick, and their good shows) to see and hear how they've changed over the years. Many artists with this style tend to have their speaking voices change. Jonny Craig and M Shadows voices have raised in tamber(?) over the years. Their voices were lower when they were younger. I know Shadows has said he started singing unhealthy before he hired his vocal coach to help him keep his sound but protect his voice too. I wonder if they do this on purpose like MJ did to protect his voice, or if its just damage and muscle memory
Back just to say, of all your videos on grit, this is the one that seems to be clicking with me (an eternal not-gritty-without-extreme-discomfort singer).
Make sure you sign up for Jonny's free course we talk about in the video! Spencer and Jonny co wrote and produced two songs while they were out here at my studio... AND we did a course around it! If you sign up for this free one, you'll get an invite to that experience with Spencer and Jonny!
Cool video, thanks Chris. Kelly Jones (Stereophonics) Paolo Nutini and Terrence Trent Darby are my favourite exponents of this sound, I've always found rasp more difficult than grit, I think this video will help.
It's so awesome to see 3 of you talking about this stuff! Damn! I wish we could get this 10 years ago man... One thing i wish you covered is different ranges of using grit! For me personally it's quite easy to do grit in my chest register up to F#4 maybe G4 (but depends on the sounds I have to make for G). Anyway in head voice or let's say higher mixed voice it's significantly harder to do that same grit... I can't seem to get the sensation of where the grit should be concentrated... where the sound should originate... and Jonny is really good at that... thinking of that intro in "The Past Should Stay Dead". That's the struggle and I imagine I am most likely not the only one having issues with this.
Not really a fan of how Chris "confirms" his grit in his voice is a result of drug use lol, you can see how J has grown because he can objectively view this without being defensive.
He did it as tactfully as possible. To avoid it completely and pretend like that wasnt a big part of JC's career (and affected his vocals) would be phony & patronizing I think
See the way I found it was from the belt. I don't remember starting at the gritty or closed sounds and building it into the belted sound like you guys are doing here. I had to hold the clean belted notes and feel out the sound from there because that helped me keep the balance between note and grit. If I start from the grit and try to sing through it I just choke.
Where was this video when I wanted to sing with girt so badly?! Thanks so much for making this kind of videos and inviting guests, it's super helpful to learn different approaches. Also, it helps when I imagine that the "huaaaah" sound is going through my nose and eyes, it allows me to keep it above my voice box.
I've been trying to learn to sing like Jørn Lande as he performed on his Pentakill albums and this is a great start for me. I'd love to see his voice analyzed on here.
35 years of smoking weed will NOT guarantee you a raspy voice, trust me, haha Tensing my lower torso does however, break up my voice to some degree adding rasp and grit to my singing voice. One of many tips from Chris that's helped my singing over the last year.
Always DOWNWARD! join my free course for more info on that! Jonny’s doesn’t cover that but any of my other videos link to my free course which will help you dial in your support :)
Omg, the song he sings in the beginning is freaking awesome, someone knows the name or what's it about? I need this song full released in my life right now! haha
Wow, after this video I finally managed to engage my false chords consiously. Thank you! (I tried for a few months already and was only able to use fry screams)
So if I'm understanding correctly, grit is generated via false vocal fold distortion, which when applied lightly will give you grit like Jonny/Bruno Mars/Freddie Mercury, and when applied heavily will be a pitched scream a la Sam Carter?
@@chrisliepe My voice has a natural fry engagement to it and I've been exploiting it to bring grit and do pitched scream (basicaly, a loud fry distortion engages automatically when I belt, I need to consciously remove it to have cleaner belts). So far there is no damage to my voice and it never hurt. Is this another technique or am I doing something wrong and should rework my voice engagement?
@@DoomickthePancake There's some major misconceptions out there... It's not actually "Fry". It's different levels of false cord engagement. Everyone calls it fry and that gets confused with actual fry which is loose primary cord engagement. You would do well to practice certain ways of engaging your vocal tract in CLEAN only singing and then learning how to engage mild false cord engagement 'at will'. You might be interested in this? No pressure :) www.mymusicalvoice.com/p/the-aggressive-vocalist-s-master-plan-of-attack/
@@chrisliepe Thank you for your reply! I assumed it was fry since it felt like the same kind of off vibrations and resonated higher than my false chord engagements (I feel the vibration in my sinuses almost instead of my soft palate). I already have worked on cleaning my voice and will continue doing so as long as I can.
Chris! Have you ever heard of Yannis Papadopoulos? I’d love to see you tackle some power metal vocalists because they’re so insane. I also think your voice would fit super well in the genre. You should check out some of his clips and maybe do a video on him! Dude’s got grit for days and plays with it in a super exaggerated, wacky way.
It's interesting that you equate a grunt with damage to the voice. I could engage and disengage a natural grunt since I was around 8, and if anything i barely used my voice otherwise, so it's likely a natural human sound that we are taught away from, and the negation of it is artificial, it's the most natural of human sounds, and the key to doing the movie announcer voice.
Chris I would think that you are a clear tenor but Jonny has a way higher, yet lighter speaking voice, like he doesn't project or hit as much with his voice when talking kinda reminds me of Michael Jackson, is this the difference between tenors or could you guys sound like each other with different approaches or what? I think I'm a tenor but compared to others like Bruno Mars or something I more 'hit' notes than glide effortlessly through them, also it is hard to bring any bassyness into my sound at all so I try to make up for it with rasp
Just pointing this out because I only just realized it on this video, but this is 2 years old. He's had his ups and downs but he has been sober for a bit now.
My rasp always comes at the weirdest times or when im not warmed up Am i the only one who feels like semi heavy fry vocals warm up the voice strangely well?
my voice fries and rasps effortlessly when im not warmed up or in the morning. When I'm warmed up it becomes really clean and takes a lot of prep to get grit.
If I had watched this video yesterday I wouldn't have hurt my vocal cords.. Started the day attempting "this is a man's world" in a raspy voice thats very unnatural to me, and ended the day at the doctor's clinic being told to keep my speaking to a bare minimum for 72 hours 😅
