thanks, means a lot to hear that from people. RU-vid is all about exposure, My channel for some reason doesn't get the exposure that other channels get. When youtube does push my channel a little, I start to get more subs and views. It's all about the youtube algorithm. But likes and comments help a little, so I appreciate the support.
One of the best thrash albums, guitar tones, kick drum tones. Etc. It is funny how some dudes, would bash the kick drum tones. And say it sucked. But like almost all the thrash bands drummers were attempting the tone as well. I think it was the blueprint fo thrash metal from 89-20??. But that is just my opinion
Other than having to spend $1,300 for a brand new Snow White Snakebyte guitar, I agree with you that VSTs (plug-ins) are an excellent and inexpensive alternative to achieving Metallica's legendary tones without breaking the bank (or robbing one!). I use Bias Fx 2 mobile on my iPhone and I've achieved awesome JUSTICE tones straight from my phone with that app.
It can be hard to give advise sometimes because everyone has their own opinions on what gear they like. I give general advise that can apply to most people but there are certainly many people out there that are super picky with their gear and always want the best and anything else is garbage.
@@ShredHeads I can certainly relate! I was a “real” gear guy for years until a co-worker started feverishly playing the opening to “Dyer’s Eve” at his house and f*cking blew me away with the tone. I asked him “what the hell was THAT?!?” and he simply lifted up his phone, game over lol.
I have the pre set saved somewhere, I just remember cutting mostly mids and boosting 3k slightly, I believe. Although results will vary based on what guitar you are playing and what pick ups, active not active etc.
This tone is awesome! Could you make maybe short video about capturing the tone with the Triaxis. Just like the same as the Master of Puppets video with the Triaxis.
Maybe, the triaxis is tricky because it doesn’t have a five band eq and there were also different versions of it. Which I hear sound different from each other. It’s possible to get a great tone with it, but if you want the justice tone an additional eq in the loop will be required.
Ya I had 2 and one sounded different then found out the one I kept has two drive stages on rhy and lead 1 channels and are normal on lead 2. Also I have noticed everytime I put jj preamp tubes in there is more gain.
The tone is wonderful but the riff you played had a couple of mistakes, namely the little phrase in between the octave part. Probably the best tone I've heard on the internet.
It’d be really cool to see you do the No More Tears Zakk Wylde tone. Or the 1990s Van Halen tone. Even Judas Priest Screamin for Vengeance tone. I’m a big proponent of the chorus/detune agenda
I got into this tone heavily a few years ago and i was able to create the distortion almost exactly by using the raw signal of the jcm 2000 into the mark iic+ to boost the distortion through vsts. They did something like that for the album by using the jcm 2000 for the preamp and mark iic+ as a power amp. Very expensive irl but worth it.
The amp setting are shown in the video I believe. Marshall combo will not sound that similar to a mesa boogie but if that’s what you got, use it to your best ability.
Hey man sick tone!!! I just got an mxr 10 band eq for the fx loop on my IIC+. Do you have any tips on setting it up to get as close as possible to the and justice for all tone?
Thanks, my best advise is to experiment. Cut more mids obviously, but just record your sound with different eq settings and reference them with the isolated tracks.
@@ShredHeads Thanks man!!! It’s crazy how close you can get without actually having everything they did in the studio when recording the album. I messed around with the eq and after about an hour I had a pretty close tone to that of the blackened isolated guitar track tone.
@@julian7172 Yeah dude, I mean tone chasing can be a bit tricky, but with some guitar skills and the right gear. You can certainly get pretty close if you know what you are doing.
All of the following examples are between 500-$1000 USD on the used market. DC series, studio series, triaxis pre amp, Express series, mark V 25. There are probably more but that’s an idea.
The eq is highly determined by the setup you are using. In my case I was using EMG pickups and bogner 4x12. If you have a different set up you will need a different eq to match that specific setup. Using the eq I used could help, but could also make it sound worse. So that’s kind of why I gave the advise to cut more mids and use your ears to determine how much and which frequencies.
@@ShredHeads yes I get it it thanks though great vid and great tone too, it’s one of my fav tone ever and I’m still trynna get it on my fender GTX50 amp sim 👍
You can get a Puppet Master EQ pedal into almost any tube amp and add in a noise suppressor to get pretty damn close to Master & Justice sounds, spending way less since Mesa Boogie is so expensive. Hell, I run the PMEQ into a baby solid state Marshal practice amp and get the Master & Justice feel. Cool video, thanks
You could get something similar. The important thing is to use what you have. If the POD has a mesa boogie amp sim start with that and tweek from there. Scoop out as much mids as possible.
What frequencies you cutting? I've been using my axe fx iii 4cm into my mark v and been playing with basically using volume pedal and eq in loop. Also I bypass then preamp of the boogie and use a jc120 preamp for my clean. Just love my mark v though.
@@ShredHeads I have GeQ block in my loop that I used to cut some mids add more low end. Works great with the V shape on mark v. I'm just missing some of the rasp on it. Wondering if it's like 4k boost or 6k boost would help. I was gonna return the mark v and the v30 1x12 I bought and get FRFR but fell in love with the 4cm Axe
@@flip7530 i don't think i boosted any upper frequencies. but do what works for you. yeah, FRFR is cool but no way is it better than a 4x12 or actual 12 inch speakers pushing some real air.
I do remember learning and transcribing it correctly. However, I do remember when I decided to record this video I had forgotten how to play it a bit. I didn’t reference my notes. So you are right, it is played a bit wrong.
@@ShredHeads oh yeah I know that, I've had many arguments with people who clearly don't actually know what they are talking about, insist that james ONLY down picks! That would be impossible! Thinking of battery for example off the top of my head. Blackened is probably the limit of down picking! For me at least!
When I try out a guitar amp I use 6 chords. 3 of them off of AJFA. I swear you really need to hear how the amp handles those weird chords. I could go into detail but nah lol
Live tones are tricky because you need a quality recording to use as a reference. Often times the only recordings are from TV performances and the audio quality is terrible.
How would it sound in the mix since you dont have any mids? It is hard for me to imagine a guitar tone popping up in the mix without any mids. Can anybody here can give me some insight please? cheers
The tone does have some mids but they are very faintly there. The result is that you hear the guitars but you mostly hear the boosted high and low ends of the guitar tone. That's why this tone has that sharp and aggressive attack but it can sound a bit hollow. Mixing wise, the guitar tracks are mixed a bit louder to compensate for the lack of mids which would normally help push the guitar tone forward in a mix. The mids in the guitar tone will be hard to hear in the full mix, but that's kind of the effect they were going for.
@@viannarts I'm not sure if they took out as much mids during their live shows back in the day. The same concepts would apply though, when talking about the effects of taking out a lot of mids.
@@ShredHeads but part of the reason why you barely eat the actual bass, it would muddy the guitar sound on that record, probably why Lars wanted it so inaudible, also because it was also covering the bass drum too much. Probably they should have recorded the bass with more mids but that probably would have sounded worse
When I was 20, I could keep up right with live tracks of James. I’m now 43 and I can’t keep my right hand going like he can. I started playing different styles of music and I lost my endurance. Shame on me
Hetfield himself refers to this as being or not being in "down picking shape". You can practice and get back in shape. It just takes some time. I wouldn't give up on it.
I don't think there's any shame in alternate picking the runs. Many other metal players do it. Don't beat yourself up, if alternate picking the runs still produces the sound, I'd do that instead. I'm not young either, I'm 48 so that's what I do for the faster palm mute staccato riffs. If I can down pick of course but if it gets too fast, like 32nd notes, it's alternate picked.
@@dementkro I can't because I don't own a boss katana. I am sure there are a few videos about it on youtube from others who have one. Not sure how great the tone is but I'm sure there are some patches or tutorials out there.
Use the playback speed button on the RU-vid player. This will slow it down musically and visually enough to hopefully help you play this part of the song.
@@Rude1911 a# powerchord 2nd and 3rd fret on the 6th string followed by 2nd pull off to 1st fret followed 3rd fret 6th string back to open e power chord. then four chugs on 6th string.
