How To Stiffen Up Your Ford Model A Roadster B Pillars!!

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One issue that plagues a Ford Model A Roadster is a weakness to the b pillar area. Originally the b pillars were braced with wood which breaks down over time, which leads to the doors opening around turns and even causing the top of the quarter panel to crack. In many of builds we have used box tubing to help stiffen everything up, and Matt plans to do the same with the Sweet Heart Roadster. After some metal and some welding the b pillars are so much stronger!! The Sweet Heart Roadster is slowly coming together, but each step gets us closer to the finish!!
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@chuckster6513 Год назад

Hey Matt, that A body has come a long way from what you dragged home. But so has everything else you have brought home. Good Work ! Work Safe, Be Well Stay Warm

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

Thanks for watching!

@davidjohns6433 Год назад

Great video as always..too funny though at the end...the white dog tail wagging behind you..always & forever..moon steals the limelight!🤣🤣

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

Haha he’s the star!

@stevenkarnisky411 Год назад

One thing I have not seen mentioned is the patience that goes into building your cars. By taking the time to do each step correctly, you ensure that the finished product will be safe and road-worthy. I remember thinking while you were building the floor pan in the '39 "forgotten" that I would be willing to drive that car anywhere. Your builds are, in many ways, better than factory!

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

Thanks Steven! Just trying to do the best I can with the tools, supplies, and skills I have!

@SwampersRC Год назад

It's amazing that they were still using so much wood for structure in the '30s! That's a great modification!

@Mr_Spegru Год назад

they were building planes out of wood in the 40s! see deHavilland Mosquito for one example. it's good stuff

@deanbrunner261 Год назад

Better than new is always a good day

@theodoredugranrut8201 Год назад

Good job Matt, made a big difference. Central California watching

@donnieconatser1232 Год назад

Sorry ITG...Phone was outta gas...yalls videos n projects bring a bunch of us ol turds...lol...so much of life.. Best wishes...ALWAYS

@johnbehneman1546 Год назад

GREAT VIDEO MATT. TOTALLY AWSOME ENGINEERING!!!! GREAT EDUCATION. THANKS FOR SHARING!!!

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@380.motorsports Год назад

Great video and very timely for me. It’s like you were reading my mind for the next upgrade I need to make on my 29 roadster. Hoping 2023 will be the year I get my doors to stay closed better.

@randomyank7777 Год назад

Excellent job on the pillars ! Lol ! I watched the next video of the tubing first . All good though . I see what you did to it , the how , & I understand the why . I totally get it . Doors opening around corners is never a good thing , lol . Better than original , but authentic too , because you used the original wood as a pattern for the steel . I really like this car , so I am glad it is getting all of the Iron Trap Garage Love it can get . Looking forward to how well it turns out in the finished product end . This should be a show stopper when completed ! Nice lines , well restored , & well built !

@bobhalstead1879 Год назад

Growing up dad had 3 ,1956 ford crown vics.pink n white,blue n white and black.the pink and blue both had passenger doors that flew open upon every left turn.the black one he never got running or the door would have flew open also.its not just a roadster problem but a ford problem.it keeps the blood flowing if you survive.

@steveclark4291 Год назад

Matt sir , I'm older than you but I've learned a lot from you on body work ! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and the how to do it ability ! I'm 67 live in south central Kansas .

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

Thanks for watching! Not the best way just how I solved a problem!

@danielrushton982 Год назад

Looking at the dash,even in it’s unfinished state,beautiful. You make rolling art.

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

Thank you Daniel!

@johnhealy4647 Год назад

consistency is a great virtue to practice Matt. thank you for sharing your love for old iron!

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

Thanks for watching!

@gordonstroup882 Год назад

Hey Matt, I love everything about the Sweetheart Roadster that you've done to her so far. I know your metal working skills are purdy frickin' awesome because I've watched you over the years. I was just thinking about, what if you were to make a sweet (heart) metal, removable hardtop for her? With it being so small, and short, it shouldn't be too awfully heavy to manage. You could have the back of it at the perfect height for your head clearance and whatever you need to do. Ah, just a thought. Anyway, great show Matt and thanks for sharing your builds for us all to watch and enjoy. Have a good one.

@CapnBubbaa Год назад

Matt your fabrication skill awesome, just watching you massage metal in to car pieces always amazes me... keep up the great info filled videos.

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

Thanks for watching!

@garycloud5705 Год назад

Moon is at his funniest at the start of this vid. You can see him in the background patrolling the garage. At one point all you can see is the tip of his tail moving across the garage. Hilarious!

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

Haha that’s him hard at work nose to the ground!

@johnkranz4004 Год назад

Coming along very Nice Matt

@jscheu71 Год назад

Love watching Moon's tail wagging through the windshield frame. Lol.

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

Haha inspector moon!

@pappete9988 Год назад

With circular saws relatively new for metal cutting ive not yet seen a fabricator adjust the depth cut, by raising the body of the saw so that the blade is only10-20mm through the material being cut the cut is much easier to make and even allows a slight curve to be made without stressing the saw, blade, or operator. Try it and youll never use the saw with blade at full depth unless its needed.

@garyhughes9199 Год назад

Looks and sounds great. Grinding skills on another level now!

@bobhalstead1879 Год назад

When i owned fords it was first on race day.when my buddies owned one it was found on road dead.

@guillermonieri4203 Год назад

Great detail. Thank you.

@johndownie9385 Год назад

Damn u make that look so easy

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

Just fancy editing! 😉

@Ecosse57 Год назад

man what an improvement! hi moon!

@thomasst.martin3308 Год назад

Great work. That is not going anywhere.

@jimhartland1939 Год назад

Top end in creation

@thomasmitchell6921 Год назад

Matt, I’ve seen one builder put the sound dead type liner in the inside body panels and doors (after painting) The car was real solid sounding and less metallic ringing. What’s you take on this procedure?

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

Great idea for sure. I usually put some sort of sound deadening spray or Mat on key places when putting a car together for final assembly. But I also don’t like turning them into “vaults” I like the rattles and squeaks and old charm of an antique car.

@richardmarino5658 Год назад

A lot more solid. Nice job.

@donhoughton271 Год назад

Sounds great 👍

@theodoreko2700 Год назад

You made two pieces and welded them together could you of use squares or rectangular tubing and sightly bend the shape of the panel to fit

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

It was easier to manipulate the shape this way. It needed to curve in multiple directions it would have taken a ton of pie cuts in box tubing to make it work.

@shotsrodder Год назад

Nice job 😎

@Mr_Spegru Год назад

Nice job. i'm now wondering how i can do something equivalent on my car with a fibreglass body. i have an idea on that....

@dinxsy8069 Год назад

Need to add which Ep number this is to add to the sweet heart roadster playlist.

@kensnyder9372 Год назад

What is cool in your shop ....the dog tale up sniffing around making sure every thing is in it's place.....................

@erniehoffer811 Год назад

Hello, Great how-do video. You make great parts. Other builders need B pillars and more. Time to purchase a plasma table. Make parts to sell. You test fit all the parts. Mike could do the computer work. Thank you.

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

No interest in a plasma table. I have a friends I can borrow for more intricate parts but these would have taken longer to draw and program into a plasma table than to just pattern and cut by hand.

@lloydbaker7099 Год назад

Great content learned a lot

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

Glad it was helpful!

@lloydbaker7099 Год назад

@@IronTrapGarage oh yeah the way you built a thin wall box tubing to mimic the wood was too cool

@classactkirk Год назад

Boy oh boy that car has come a long way since you 1st picked it out of that field, I've loved some of the tricks on this car..speaking of the free t I'd love to see that done and driving, what's the status on that?

@mpark3447 Год назад

I was hoping to see more on how you connected the b-pillar to the sub rail at the bottom. I boxed my b-pillar but the sub rail flexes allowing the b-pillar to move even though the pillar is boxed. Maybe you could show how you connect to the sub rail on the next one.

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

I had already welded a foot from the b pillar previously to the subrails. I welded the boxed section to that foot.

@mpark3447 Год назад

@@IronTrapGarage Do you have an issue with the sub-rail flexing where you mount the foot or do you add support to the sub-rail?

@Racemojo Год назад

Great job Matt! I've always like this idea, makes the body much stiffer! Not sure if you mentioned it, I may have missed it, but what gauge metal did you use? Matt- Mojo Speed Shop and Lounge

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

1/8” steel which matches the existing angle iron in the b-pillar

@michaelguinn5736 Год назад

Morning Matt!! As always another great video!! I may pull the wood from my 30 A Coupe, & complete the same procedure as you did, you mentioned the body line being cracked from no support....mine is! What gauge material did you use? 12-14 ga.? Y'all be safe!! God Bless!!

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

I used 1/8” steel for the material to box the b-pillars. The same as the existing angle iron in the b pillar

@kevinspinner5428 Год назад

How many people have fallen out of these when the door has sprung open. Scary.

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

Hundreds of Millions of Thousands

@1954shadow Год назад

Wood is good, but, metal is better.

@tonygrenstiner4088 Год назад

Hey Matt I was watching the video where you were doing the door on Mike's 34 and it looked like you were using a hand handle plantation hammer it looked like it was air powered where can a guy get something like that I would be interested in buying one.

@usmclee65 Год назад

Mat when you were welding I didn't see your foot pedal, does your torch have finger control?

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

I was using a foot pedal here but my torch does have a finger switch

@Kingzjester072 Год назад

Just curious why you used 3 pieces instead of using a brake on the center fold either way 👍

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

I didn’t have a press brake long enough in house to bend 1/8” steel. Used what I had on hand.

@alanparker1598 Год назад

Great video. I have wondered for a long time how you can straighten up those old bodies by removing the wood and inserting metal. One question on boxing frames. At what point is boxing a frame needed and do you have to box it the full length of the frame. I am trying to get ready to build a 36 coupe with a 302 and T5. Will only be running around 300 HP. It will have an 8” rear end.

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

Boxing a frame is definitely helpful when. Adding a lot more HP than stock. Mainly need it in the engine /trans area but doesn’t hurt to do the entire frame if you so desire.

@robnelson8733 Год назад

Do you do this on other models with the wood removed? I'm starting a 30 model A Tudor with no wood and would like to stiffen the body.

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

The same idea could be used. Sometimes we install box tubing instead. Every body style is a little different.

@Bigskyguy56 Год назад

Great upgrade. What gauge steel did you use for this?

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

1/8”

@Bigskyguy56 Год назад

@@IronTrapGarage Thanks Matt.

@shartne Год назад

why did not Ford do that in first place? hmm go figure? I have always wondered why they even ever used wood in the roof too? Oh well it gives you some more fun to have to work on. I love to heli arc I got to do that for 12 years in a art foundry. I kind of miss it a lot.

@stevenkarnisky411 Год назад

Shartne, remember that automobile building evolved from wagon building. That was pretty much all wood construction. Cheap, plentiful and strong. No one thought about cars lasting almost a hundred years in those times. Early car bodies were hybrid wood/steel.

@xozindustries7451 Год назад

Can you put longer doors on those roadsters to make it easier to get in and out of, or is it best to do suicide doors? They seem so small and the steering wheel is right in the way

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

You can do anything you want but I think it looks goofy when people do that. You could get a cabriolet which uses the longer coupe doors, but then it’s not a roadster but still is a convertible. Just depends on what you want.

@xozindustries7451 Год назад

@@IronTrapGarage I need to get a Ford spotters guide so I can learn all the differences in body styles for early fords, thanks for the info

@bruiseroo Год назад

What are you spraying in between the panels before you box it up?

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

Eastwood rust encapsulator. I’ll then follow up with drilling a hole in the b pillar and fogging eastwood internal frame coating inside to take care of any paint that burnt off during welding.

@dennisschickling2249 Год назад

Nice Video. #STAYSAFE #PHILLYPHILLY 🇺🇸

@brucehorner936 Год назад

When are you going to do it to Mike's car?

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

His car has fully boxed metal b pillars from the factory.

@tedhewitt4299 Год назад

How will you fasten upholstery there?

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

A screw in faster or adhesive and a Velcro fastener. Same as any other car with no wood in the interior..

@DCrockett1 Год назад

I heard your dog whining when you was welding that b piller. You might consider keeping him away from welding areas. He is curious and loves being near you. As you know watching without vision protection will blind humans/mammals. He could suffer if you get my drift. Just an observation. I'm not judging you in any way.

@IronTrapGarage Год назад

He wasn’t watching the weld. He was standing next to the door asking to go outside. I keep him away from me when welding. Believe me I’m more conscious of my pets well being than most people are of their pets.

@DCrockett1 Год назад

@@IronTrapGarage Cool, I apologize for questioning I'm sure you are great pet parent he looks very well taken care of and healthy! I'm just an old pet parent also. I really enjoy your channel and wish you and your entire cast family well. Thank you for responding. Pastor Dave!