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How To Test Standard AA, AAA, D, C, and 9V Batteries with a Multimeter 

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@TangodownNZ
@TangodownNZ 4 года назад
All the other videos just check the voltage and say that’s how you test them. You are showing us the correct way. 🙏
@george5120
@george5120 4 года назад
Thanks for not playing music and thereby trying to fancy yourself as an actor in a Hollywood movie, like in so many other RU-vid tutorials. Just straightforward discussion about battery testing, which is all that we needed.
@harryshector
@harryshector 3 года назад
A nominal 100 ohm load will draw 90 mA from a nominal 9 volt battery. 90 mA is a considerable load for a ‘transistor radio battery.’ They are normally used in significantly lower current applications. I would say 10 to 20 mA is a reasonable load. So, a 450 ohm resistor would approximate that kind of load. Drawing 90 mA might lead someone to discard a battery of this type prematurely. A “D” cell is intended for much heavier loads than the approximately 16 mA that the 100 ohm load would draw from it. Such batteries are intended for loads of 200 to 500 mA. A three ohm load will draw 500 mA from a 1.5 volt battery. This would be a much more useful measure of a D cell’s performance, because the 100 ohm load would seem to the D cell to be nearly an open circuit. So, I think the idea behind your tutorial was correct, but I think that the information given could be, depending upon the circumstance, misleading. The Radio Shack Battery tester that I have tests D cells at 150 mA. I don’t think that’s a reliable measure of performance for D cell batteries. It would be reasonable for AA cells, I think. There are also valid questions of what the cutoff voltage should be for the cells tested. Battery literature will give suggested levels, and may vary considerably from manufacturer to manufacturer. At the end of the day, most devices require high enough voltage on the cells used that most of the capacity of the battery is wasted anyway.
@carlosmanuelgonzalez310
@carlosmanuelgonzalez310 Год назад
Thanks 👍
@GerardPinzone
@GerardPinzone 8 лет назад
Video starts at 3:30
@EggheadJr1
@EggheadJr1 8 лет назад
thank you so much!
@niamhwhite6621
@niamhwhite6621 8 лет назад
it matters
@niamhwhite6621
@niamhwhite6621 8 лет назад
gerard pinzone - wish i had seen your comment!!
@satan4635
@satan4635 7 лет назад
This comment was more helpful than the video.
@jizelcastinon5022
@jizelcastinon5022 7 лет назад
Gerard Pinzone boi
@PetsoKamagaya
@PetsoKamagaya 2 года назад
Awesome, just found this video from 2013 and is very useful even in 2022!!! Thank you.
@G56AG
@G56AG 4 года назад
I have a 9 volt battery sitting on my desk, using just a multimeter it tests 8.94 volts, there appears to be lots of life left in that battery! Now we test it the way you should, under a load, now it tests 2.83 volts, all its really good for is the recycling bin. Thank you for posting a proper method to test a battery, under load.
@johnmitchelljr
@johnmitchelljr 3 года назад
I love it when I find I've been doing things wrong. Now a trip to the resisters "r" us store. Thank you.
@Peppermint1
@Peppermint1 5 лет назад
People, not every video is perfectly done, at least he gets to the point (at 3:30) and tells us the correct way to test these batteries, which I guess most of us were not aware of. Only thing I would improve, is to add in the title "and with an 100ohm resistor"
@jeffreydeutsch7336
@jeffreydeutsch7336 8 лет назад
While the author clearly understands what is going on with internal resistance, he fails to address what is a reasonable test load. His hundred ohm resistor will only draw 15 ma from a 1.5 volt battery. For a D cell that is an improbably small load. The shortcoming of any load tester is that the manufacturer has to guesstimate a load for any battery it tests, not knowing what load the battery is being asked to drive. The better cheap load testers have different loads for AA, C,D, 9V, etc. In fact, a 9v battery is made up of 1.5 volt cells that are way smaller than a AAA. In normal operation, they probably don't have to supply that much current. A smoke alarm might be an exception, I never checked. The point is, no one value resistor is going to simulate a reasonable load for a whole range of batteries. I remember seeing the schematic for a Radio shack load tester and was thinking of making a little test box using the values they used for different sizes of batteries, with my multimeter. I have seen them at Home Depot ,too. For around 10 or 15 bucks it is probably easier to buy one. Another problrm with s multimeter is the awkwardness of two probes. Most of the testers have a sliding battery holder or a contact on the face and only one probe. I you test more than very rarely, two probes with a resistor clipped across them is pretty clumsy to use.
@JamieClark
@JamieClark 7 лет назад
If people knew this, I think a lot more of those radio-shack style testers would have been sold... too bad they don't exist anymore!
@toddy2519
@toddy2519 6 лет назад
The load testers or RS doesn't exist? I ask because there is a RS here in my town.
@Milesco
@Milesco 5 лет назад
@Anonymous : Search for "battery testers". They're supposed to have a load built in, but in my experience, it's nowhere near a heavy enough of a load to really test the battery with any real accuracy. That's why I prefer to either put a fairly heavy load (e.g., a 1-ohm resistor) in parallel with the battery tester (I happen to have one where it's easy to do that, but most of them aren't), or do the same thing with an actual multimeter, like the guy in this video did..
@spacecon4982
@spacecon4982 5 лет назад
@@JamieClark Yes, Radio Shack used to sell a lot of unique things that you couldn't get anywhere else. Their big downfall was switching from and electronics store to a cell phone shop.
@yuyiya
@yuyiya 4 года назад
@Jeffrey Deutsch : One well-informed comment, like yours makes reading them ALL worth the time :-)
@MarcCastellsBallesta
@MarcCastellsBallesta 11 месяцев назад
That's what I was missing! Testing the batteries against a resistor to see their voltage when plugged in a circuit. Thank you!
@dggd
@dggd 6 лет назад
Well I'll be darn, I learned some valuable new information today. I appreciate this very much. Thank you.
@AndrewTanielian
@AndrewTanielian Год назад
The info on the resistors is great. Thank you for including that!
@arthurserino2254
@arthurserino2254 Год назад
I"m so fortunate to have a multimeter with this functionality built in for 1.5, 9, and 12v batteries! Cost me all of $11 on amazon!
@star-lordlavaplanet
@star-lordlavaplanet 11 месяцев назад
Could you please post a link to your device thank you
@arthurserino2254
@arthurserino2254 11 месяцев назад
@@star-lordlavaplanet Actron auto-analyzer.
@MrHolz1234
@MrHolz1234 2 месяца назад
@arthurserino2254 Do you know what the resistance load is for each of those? Does it vary with each setting, or is it just a single load? The Instruction manual for the Actron 6635 auto-analyser does not provide any ohm load information, just that it tests under an unspecified "load" for each battery setting. Thanks.
@arthurserino2254
@arthurserino2254 2 месяца назад
@@MrHolz1234 I tested it once with another multimeter. I don't remember the values, but it varies.
@MrHolz1234
@MrHolz1234 2 месяца назад
@@arthurserino2254 Thanks, it is useful to know that they do use different loads for each one.
@kitsurubami
@kitsurubami 5 лет назад
1) need multimeter, ~100 (known) ohm resistor, alligator clips 2) check the batteries while under load (passing through the resistor) This is more telling because besides the battery having enough voltage, it also needs to have a low enough internal resistance (able to put out enough voltage while under load). I don't know anything about electricity, I'm just taking notes, correct me if i'm wrong.
@Milesco
@Milesco 5 лет назад
Yep, that's correct. Although I would suggest a much lower resistance (higher load). 100 ohms isn't going to put much of a load on a battery, so it won't really put the battery to the test and show you "what it's made of", so to speak. You need to draw a fair amount of current out of a battery in order to see what its internal resistance is doing. I would suggest a 1-ohm resistor for a AA battery. That may sound like a heavy load to some people, but it's only for a few seconds, and it's what you need in order to really see what's going on inside the cell. A good battery will be able to tolerate that without a problem and without a large voltage drop. If, under that kind of load, it still gives you a volt or more, you're good to go. Between, say, 8/10ths of a volt and 1.0 volts, you're still okay, but it's weak. Below around 0.8 volts, you should consider tossing the battery (or recharging it if it's a rechargeable).
@mick1turner
@mick1turner 4 года назад
@@Milesco Hi Captain. I may not be that smart but are you saying 1 ohm has more resistance than 100 ohm, or is it because the resistor is in parallel ?Sorry just trying to get my head around all this
@Milesco
@Milesco 4 года назад
@@mick1turner No, 1 ohm is of course much less resistance than 100 ohms - but that means it draws much more current. It puts a heavier load on the battery. A resistor resists the flow of current, so more resistance = less current, and less resistance = more current. So a low resistance is a heavy load, and a high resistance is a light load. When you’re testing a battery, you want to put a heavy load on it (high current), so you want to use a low resistance. Any battery will look good if you just put a tiny little load on it. You want to push it hard to see if it can “deliver the goods”. I guess maybe you're thinking that a low resistance makes it “easy” for the battery. Like if you're pushing a cart with low-friction wheel bearings, it’s easy to push. But that’s not the right way to think about it. Having a low resistance makes it easy for the _current to flow._ But it’s a heavy workout for the battery. It’s like opening up the throttle on an engine. The throttle resists the flow of fuel and air into the the engine. Open up the throttle (reduce its resistance), and it’s easy for lots of fuel and air to get into the engine, and the engine will deliver lots of torque. But it’s a heavy workout for the engine. Every battery has an internal resistance, and a good battery can deliver a high current flow because it has a low internal resistance. Conversely, a bad battery has a high internal resistance and therefore can’t deliver a high current, even if you put heavy load (that is, a low external resistance) on it. That’s because the battery’s high internal resistance becomes the limiting factor. You’ll see a large voltage drop when you try to put a heavy load on it. Like water flowing through a pipe - if you put a restriction in the pipe, the water pressure will be high on the front side of the restrictor, but will be low on the back side. In an electrical circuit, voltage is the “pressure” that forces electrons through the circuit. Hope that helps!
@nittijain
@nittijain 4 года назад
@@Milesco awesome teacher u can be😘
@Milesco
@Milesco 4 года назад
@@nittijain : Thanks, Nitti! 😊
@slamdunktiger
@slamdunktiger 9 лет назад
Thank you very much for this awesome video, really helpful. I DJ weddings and use half a dozen batteries per gig for wireless microphones and wanted to be able to check them.
@awizardalso
@awizardalso 5 лет назад
Thanks for the load resistor value. I want to build a battery tester and wasn't sure of what to use for a load for reliable testing. I would think you should test for a little longer to see if the voltage starts to drop. I think if it drops at a slow rate it's still good, and at a faster rate maybe not so good.
@matthewralph5068
@matthewralph5068 3 года назад
Thank you .. now i know that to truly test a battery, i need to test it under load. i've learned someting new watching your video.
@radellaf
@radellaf 10 лет назад
100 Ohms is a very light (10-15mA) load for AAA - D cells. I used to wedge the leads of a 1/2W carbon 10 Ohm resistor into the banana plugs at the meter terminals to get a less optimistic reading at 100-150mA load for AA cells. That's a bit light for a D alkaline but more realistic I think. 100mA is a runtime of about 1 day for an alkaline AA, so at least the right order of magnitude for most devices (3-30 hour runtime). Zetec makes a fancy pulse load meter that isn't so cheap. It is popular but compared to this, I don't think worth it.
@nonshatter7
@nonshatter7 Год назад
Good video, I learned something new here. The intro was also useful to understand the reasons for a poor battery. I’m looking for a high quality battery charger and this video covers some of my ancillary research on the topic.
@mamikim7812
@mamikim7812 2 года назад
thank you for your clear explanation, we need a load to test. Blessing from Hong Kong.
@victoryfirst2878
@victoryfirst2878 2 года назад
Thank you for reviving my memory on battery testing Sir.
@vibhupande
@vibhupande 7 лет назад
the most useful video on testing batteries, that i've found this far, mainly coz of the comments.. thanks everyone!
@belowmars
@belowmars 6 лет назад
Do we test NIMH, lithium ion and zinc chloride batteries the same way? Does the resistor have to be 120 ohms or is there a range I can choose from? I thought for the AA and AAA batteries a 10-20 ohms resistor is more than enough? Since they only output over 1 volt.
@SuperRugby11
@SuperRugby11 6 лет назад
Thank you very much for this great information. I am not an electronics person, so this is invaluable
@frugalprepper
@frugalprepper 11 лет назад
I use the 9V battery tester that God gave me. I just put the terminals on my tongue and if it hurts bad, it is good, and If it only hurts a little chuck it.
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 11 лет назад
The tongue method does work but only puts a few milliamps of load on the battery so it may still pass bad batteries. However it is a fairly reliable quick check!
@Shroomflies
@Shroomflies 6 лет назад
Popeye I believe I speak for all when I request video evidence of said test!
@TONYMLT
@TONYMLT 3 года назад
Good review. Very good intro explanation of the initial comments on what you can and not do when testing the batteries. Well done mate.
@RangerOfTheOrder
@RangerOfTheOrder 6 лет назад
Thank you for this. The beginning was a tad winded, but still provide some useful info. We used to have an analog MM with a battery test function. When that crapped out we picked up a DMM but couldn't find any that could test batteries.
@jeffkrebs
@jeffkrebs 7 лет назад
This was truly really interesting. I just bought Duracell procell because my bass guitar has active pickups. worst thing would be playing and battery suddenly dies because I tested without a load. Thanks - great well explained video
@ScepticLlama
@ScepticLlama 6 лет назад
ok, just for clarification here. When you say "this battery is bad", do you mean the battery is drained of its power, or that the battery in general is bad and would drain quickly/not provide the required power?
@2k3r11s
@2k3r11s 5 лет назад
That was an 9V alkaline battery (not rechargeable), so the answer is "both".
@robertjusic9097
@robertjusic9097 4 года назад
It just means that the battery is unable to give the required electricity to the device it would be charging
@mikelitteral2366
@mikelitteral2366 2 года назад
This guy should be a hand model. Great job
@Christofftheman
@Christofftheman 3 года назад
Thank you dude, I’m off to eBay to get myself a 100 Ohm resistor and 2 crocodile clips.
@NiHaoMike64
@NiHaoMike64 10 лет назад
Some fancy multimeters have a low impedance mode that can be used for this.
@joegoodman9232
@joegoodman9232 Год назад
Thanks for the education. On my craftsman MM you wonder why they put 1.5 and 9v settings position on the dial ? It just doesn't work!! Thanks
@lw216316
@lw216316 8 лет назад
radio shack had a resistor (2 pack) and test leads (3 pack)- about $8 bucks- I only needed one resistor but the 2 pack was so cheap it was okay. But the 3 pack test leads were about $8 and I hate paying for what I don't need.... so shopped and found a single pair of test leads at Walmart for $2 (made by 3M,,, 30inch) and returned the 3 pack to Radio Shack. Thanks for the video. I was finally able to go thru a drawer full of old batteries and get rid of bad ones.
@Bodhi1satva
@Bodhi1satva Год назад
Will any 100 ohm resistor add enough load for all these regular use batteries? I started looking for a resistor and realized that there are other factors like some are 1/4 W, some ½ W. I think maybe theres some info missing here about the proper load to test each type of battery if I’m not mistaken. ie; what resistance would apply the appropriate load for double A or triple A batteries as opposed to 9 V or 12 V batteries?
@mikewellwood1412
@mikewellwood1412 6 лет назад
Newbie-style questions: 1. If I wanted to add, say, an additional 100 ohm resistor, would it be better to do it in series, or parallel? (or worth trying both?). 2. Would a similar test be to connect the resistor(s) in series, and then measure the current? EDIT: I think you answered this below. 3. Why can't you measure the internal resistance of a battery directly? EDIT: I think you answered this below. (I'll leave my dumb questions 2 & 3 there in case anyone wants to comment).
@richardward7525
@richardward7525 Год назад
Absolutely terrific, high value post!!!
@MarzNet256
@MarzNet256 7 лет назад
Very well explained. I'm gonna get some clips and a 100 Ohm R to go with my meter. I've got a boatload of batteries to test.
@Milesco
@Milesco 4 года назад
I would recommend using a much lower-value resistor. A 100-ohm resistor doesn't put enough of a load on a battery to really test it. You need to draw a fair amount of current out of a battery to see what kind of condition it's really in. I would recommend 1 ohm for 1.5-volt cells, and around 5 ohms for a 9-volt battery.
@BuffaloBetties
@BuffaloBetties 10 лет назад
A 100 ohm resistor for a 9 volt battery may be unrealistic. That means it would have to put out 810mw at 9V. Most 9V battery equipment is usually designed to only draw 20-80mw, pushing hard up to 100mw. Most 9V battery equipment will run fine when the voltage goes down to 6V as long as it can still put out around 13-15ma to generate around 80mw. The high frequency beeps produced by very efficient piezoelectric speakers in smoke alarms, don't really use much power to be very loud. A reading of 6-7 volts on it, with a 400-500 ohm resistor across it, may be good enough for the battery to still last a long time. Many rechargeable 9 volt batteries are actually only 7.2-7.5 volts new & fully charged. A good 9V battery may be rated at 200mah, but it was rated that way at around 20ma for 10 hours down to 6 volts, not 200ma for an hour at continuous 9 volts. A single 1.5 volt AAA cell (1.2 volts for rechargeable ones) may need to put out at least 40mw (33ma) in most apps they're used for. So a 36 ohm resistor would be best for 1.2-1.5 volt cells, or round up no higher than 50 ohms. I have a pocket LED light that draws over an amp off a single cell on it's brightest setting, but that's not typical usage for an AAA cell.
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 10 лет назад
Any 9V battery that is lower than 9.0V when new is bad - unless it is rechargeable which is often 7.2V but that is a special case. Do a search for 'Energizer 9V battery datasheet' and find the authoratative information on these batteries from a reputable manufacturer. Note that they are designed to operate up to 500mA, so a 100ohm resistor is perfectly appropriate. According to Energizer when discharged through a 100ohm resistor will take 7 hours for the battery to drain to 6.0V under load. That's a long time. I agree that a higher current would be better for AA batteries but then a higher power resistor is needed and a different one is needed for 9V, etc. 100 ohms is just simple. I find that it is very rare that a battery with good voltage fails and is not detectable with this 100 ohm trick.
@danhle1032
@danhle1032 9 лет назад
***** the lowest my resistors go in my hobby kits were 100ohms. I actually think higher resistors could make this test easier to distinguish the bad. i tested out a first set of batteries using 100ohms and didn't have much problems, the voltage decrease without a resistor vs with a resistor didn't drop so much (guessing i had decent batteries)....other times, the voltage reading kept going lower and lower, trickling down at a slower rate.. I think these were bad. taking the resistor out, these batteries would slowly rise back up
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 9 лет назад
danh le Sounds about right. Batteries that drop in voltage with a load (even a light 100ohm load) are weak and probably not worth using. Without the resistor the charge carriers will re-distribute themselves in the battery and the voltage will slowly rise up - but that higher voltage will only be present when the battery isn't being used which isn't very useful...
@TennesseeSniper
@TennesseeSniper 5 лет назад
Great video , I just ordered some clips for the resisters I have to help test. 👍 , 1 quick question: so if I don’t use the resister and the battery reads at 1.1v~1.2v it could still be good ?
@goodun6081
@goodun6081 5 лет назад
No, if a 1.5 battery is reading 1.1 or 1.2 volts on a digital voltmeter, without any kind of load on it, it's garbage, it's dead, throw it out. If that battery was brand new it should be reading about 1.6 or almost 1.7 volts on a digital meter, without any other load. A used battery that measures 1.5 volts might seem to be okay, except that when you put a load on it it might deliver only about 1.3 volts or so, and obviously that isn't very good in many devices. As a quick and dirty battery tester, check the batteries with an analog ohmmeter, that will have a lower resistance than a digital meter and would load down the batteries a bit more. If a battery reads 1.5 volts or a little higher on an analog meter, it's likely to have some life left in it.
@mikewellwood1412
@mikewellwood1412 4 года назад
If these are alkali batteries, you _might_ want to consider recharging them. Although alkali batteries are not supposed to be rechargeable, a lot of people do. (See many other videos on YT for ways of going about this, but the main thing is to do it in such a way that it does not overheat). If you can get it back up to about 1.5V or more, then it might be ok. But importantly, you will want to test the internal resistance (i.e. by using the procedure shown in *this* video ), before you think of attempting to recharge it. If the IR is too high (i.e. the voltage measured under load is much below 1.0 V, then it's probably not worth attempting to recharge. The biggest risk with recharging alkalies is possible leakage, so not worth risking in expensive equipment where leakage could be a disaster. Some people have reported batteries exploding while being charged, although I believe that is a lesser risk unless one is very careless (leaving it too long, unattended, or at too high recharge current. There are specialised rechargers around for "non-rechargeable" batteries, that use small amounts of pulsed current. Sorry if this is of no interest to you, but it might be of interest to someone.
@philipmurray4065
@philipmurray4065 5 лет назад
I tested this with 220 ohm resistor so my results will still be reliable? For example how many volts should I expect with 220 ohm resistor from 1.5v battery?
@huttarl
@huttarl 3 года назад
Why 100 ohm? Will 1 ohm or 1000 ohm work? It sounded like you said those resistors in the package were 1/4 ohm... will that work?
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 3 года назад
You just want enough current to stress the battery enough to know it will work in real-life applications. The exact resistance isn't terribly important unless you want to be scientific about it. That said 1000 ohms is definitely too high, and 1 ohm is lower than the internal resistance of the battery and will always yield a 'fail' result. For a AA to D cell 500mA is about as high as you'd want to go (flashlights are in this range).
@bitTorrenter
@bitTorrenter 3 года назад
@@knurlgnar24 So, you're talking about the 9V battery then. The impedance on the AA,AAA, B,C & D batteries I understand to be much lower.
@sfdurazo
@sfdurazo 8 лет назад
I have a 12v battery for a Power Wheel car and I have resistors like he showed in the plastic pack. Are those resistors enough to test the battery? Thank you in advance.
@joeProcess
@joeProcess 5 лет назад
learned more from reading the comments than watching the video, most importantly, video starts at 3:30, measure voltage with a known load.
@johnriver8125
@johnriver8125 10 лет назад
Cool thanks. I have a bunch of 9's specifically so sounds like I should pick up the 10 watt then. It was only a few bucks so it will be worth it to use long term... Thanks for the feedback, haven't taken electronics since 9th grade This really helps ;)
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 10 лет назад
If you're like me you'll find multiple uses for that 10 watt resistor anyway. ;)
@computerhome4309
@computerhome4309 6 лет назад
Thanks! How inaccurate would readings be using a 75 Ohm resistor (it's what I have on hand)? Also, I have situations where I temporarily use four AA batteries in a garden hose timer. Between uses I remove the batteries and label them for use in the same device in the future. This test will help me understand how depleted they are each time I use them, or whether one gets depleted faster than the others. It has been my understanding that if using multiple batteries in a device they should be of equal power.
@asinegaasinega
@asinegaasinega 2 года назад
hope you realized that it's ok to use that for a garden hose
@george5120
@george5120 3 года назад
I cannot figure out how he connected the resistor because the video is cropped. And yet, that connection is the most important point of this video!
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 3 года назад
I'm sorry for the poor video coverage of that connection. The resistor is in parallel with the battery simply to draw a load on it. This allows for doing internal resistance measurements without a special meter.
@george5120
@george5120 3 года назад
@@knurlgnar24 I ended up buying this ZTS Inc. MBT-1 Multi-Battery Test because I learned that a resistor of different strength is needed to load-test different batteries with a multimeter; and I just don't feel like buying a bunch of resistors: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FQG1XE/
@andrewzhang
@andrewzhang 8 лет назад
Is it safe to say that while voltmeters can't definitively determine if a battery is good, it can definitely tell if a battery is bad if the measured voltage is below the rated voltage? Thanks.
@jpisty
@jpisty 3 года назад
Ahhh ok this makes sense now. Just learned something new today. Thanks man
@americandowninbrazil
@americandowninbrazil 10 лет назад
Thanks for this video man! It is exactly what I was looking for!
@LeonardoGarcia-bt9ci
@LeonardoGarcia-bt9ci 3 года назад
Hey been a while
@mark2035
@mark2035 2 года назад
Useful little video. Thanks.
@wn_djogja
@wn_djogja 9 лет назад
My Sanwa SP-15D analog multimeter has a 'Battery' setting that 'Load' the battery with internal 10 Ohm resistor, this resistor value is written on the scale... I consider a battery bad when it read ±1V(@10Ω load)
@ravichandel8690
@ravichandel8690 2 года назад
i want to know what type of load is good for battery test and should it be applied in series or parallel to get load test in a battery. can i use salt water also to test battery load if possible
@channelron3593
@channelron3593 5 лет назад
Nice job, thanks for posting.
@LifeOfBrianFowler
@LifeOfBrianFowler 4 года назад
Mind posting the 30 second video that would cover what we're looking for? I know it's in here somewhere but finding it in 7 mins of you talking is going to kill my battery.
@gabzsy4924
@gabzsy4924 4 года назад
Yeah 7 minutes is the end of the world. Oh wow, watch out, you might end up learning something, be careful man.
@evahle
@evahle 7 лет назад
Nice go-no-go test. Thank you!
@pianoman74
@pianoman74 9 лет назад
Very good video!! Finally ending the myth of "just hold (+) and (-) to the batteries, and if the voltage looks good, your battery is OK". There's lots of remainder voltage in a battery when it has NOT been used for a long time, so that approach is fruitless.
@mickaels-g1479
@mickaels-g1479 9 лет назад
I see we have a lot of combinations to choose, however, I cannot find either 100 or 110 ohm. Which one would you recommend amongst the following please? 1- 10W at 150 ohm 2- 10W at 10 ohm 3- 50W at 8 ohm 4- 25W at 15 ohm 5- 10W at 390 ohm 6- 25W at 180 ohm 7- 100W at 1 ohm Many thanks...
@nickguy6820
@nickguy6820 9 лет назад
Mickael S The idea here is to put "some" load on your battery. "Some" is highly subjective, and might be tweaked depending on what you want to do with the battery. If you know it will go in a particularly high-current device, you might choose a much lower resistance for your test. (5-20R, maybe.) If you just want to sort out good batteries from clearly bad ones, anything from 50-200R is fine. For most uses, 1-10R resistors are a little on the heavy side unless you're interested in stress-testing batteries. It's not really a fair comparison to most real-world loads, and just drains the battery unnecessarily. OTOH, 390R isn't enough load to prove much. It's about the same as a single indicator LED (~4mA). Regardless, you don't need 10 to 100W ratings.. that's gross overkill. You're never going to pull 10W from a AA battery, much less 100W. (Even at 1R, that's still only like 2W.) But if you already have it, or might use it elsewhere, that's fine.
@tomatojuice12
@tomatojuice12 4 года назад
Thanks so much for this video. Can you explain why all those batteries should be 1.5 V? or near 1.5 V? (except the 9V)
@yuyiya
@yuyiya 4 года назад
@tomatojuice - They're all _designed_ to deliver about 1.5 V. The 9 V battery consists of 6 smaller batteries ("cells"), each of 1.5 V, connected in series (positive to negative). This design value of 1.5 depends on the chemistry inside the battery, specifically, on the materials used in the two terminals and on the electrolyte (conductive paste or liquid) between them.
@wilsonlai4671
@wilsonlai4671 11 лет назад
thanks for this great video! does this process works on testing a 12V lead acid battery or do i have to increase the resistance instead before testing?
@jusb1066
@jusb1066 11 лет назад
lead acid car batterys are usually ok to check using just your meter, no resistance needed, if you get 12.4-12.7 , youre battery doesnt need charging
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 11 лет назад
A lead acid starting battery requires either an impedance test using a specialized tester, or a heavy load (>100A) applied for 10 or 15 seconds while measuring the voltage to determine if they are good. Professionals used to use expensive adjustable carbon pile load testers for this purpose but are increasingly using the digital impedance measuring type now. For most people it is most economical to just go to an auto parts store where they'll test it for free.
@Odyss2023
@Odyss2023 3 года назад
Use something like a 12v 60w light bulb as a load.
@jaysanprogramming6818
@jaysanprogramming6818 5 лет назад
Brilliant! Thank you very much sir!
@jameshendee4489
@jameshendee4489 6 лет назад
thanks, it was good to learn using a resistor makes a difference... (now I gotta find a resistor, LOL)
@Flowing23
@Flowing23 Год назад
excellent demo 👍👍
@Teukku
@Teukku 9 лет назад
Hi, I have a bunch of CR2032 3V batteries and I would have to know if any of those are dead. How should I test it? I only have multimeter currently.
@accidental_relevance
@accidental_relevance 2 года назад
So there are multimeters with a built in 100-ohm resistor ? Any recommendations on a brand ?
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 2 года назад
Many multimeters have a 'low z' function to remove stray voltage from voltage measurements. It's not exactly the same but it's usually a few kilo-ohms and can be useful for coin cells and other low drain battery applications.
@timhardman4764
@timhardman4764 2 года назад
@@knurlgnar24 I have super cheap Harbor Freight multi meter. It has a function on the dial to test 9v and 1.5v batteries and it does the test adding 370mW of resistance and it measures the battery in mAmps instead of volts. For a 9v battery, it says normal amperage is 25 mA with the 370 mW of load in effect and for a 1.5v battery it says normal Amperage is 4 mA. I can still measure volts on the dial using the DCV 20 setting. In you opinion is the mA a good way to measure battery health and does anyone know the range in mA for a healthy battery in 9v and 1.5v batteries. Example: is a reading of 20 mA (80% of 25) mean I still have a strong battery? Is there a scale or chart somewhere that gives numbers for Excellent, Good, Fair and Poor regarding the mA measurement or the Voltage measurement with 110 ohms of resistance added?
@Minimalist_Wonderer
@Minimalist_Wonderer 9 лет назад
can we test AA & AAA rechargeable batteries with the 10W 150 ohm aluminum resistor?
@bryanshoemaker6120
@bryanshoemaker6120 4 года назад
100 ohms for basic batterys 1.5v, how about 7.4V 2200mah (16.28WH)? will 100ohms still be enough?
@Whale12321
@Whale12321 9 лет назад
Thanks so much! Please would you advise, how to perform a similar test on a car battery? How many ohms resistance should I use? If a car battery is not adequate to crank a car engine anymore, should it be discarded, or can it fulfill another purpose (with a lighter load). Like running internal lighting (bulbs connected in series) during load shedding (not something I assume that affects Americans, but is a daily problem in South Africa with our fragile electrical network). Please forgive me, I'm not too clued up on the terminology. If you think your response is too basic or condescending, don't worry :) I'll be happy with what I get! Greetings from South Africa. Warren Hale
@thembones12
@thembones12 4 года назад
Car 12 Volt Battery: 12.7 Volt = 100% Charge, 12.32V =70%, 12.06 V= 50%, 11.75V = 30%, 11.58 V = 20% and 10.5 Volt = 0% charge (completely discharge)
@Sunilorkut
@Sunilorkut 8 лет назад
Can I use 220 ohms 1/4 watt resistor for testing 9V and 1.5V batteries?? Sorry I am noob in this field and I have only these resistors with me ...
@packrcch
@packrcch 4 года назад
I never thought if this ! thank you!
@tertia0011
@tertia0011 2 года назад
For 9V battery use the tongue test - put battery terminals against tongue - if you feel a strong tingle battery is good. Takes 10s & no multimeter or load resister required. You will get a buzz.
@curiosity2314
@curiosity2314 11 лет назад
Liked that, question from the past... It has been said to keep these types of batteries cold or frozen to get greater life, any ideas on this?
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 11 лет назад
Standard Heavy Duty or Alkaline batteries will self-discharge slower when cold and will also corrode more slowly when cold. However temperature cycling does the opposite so if you put them in a refrigerator or freezer that self defrosts (gets warm/cold/warm etc) then I don't think it is doing much good. Alkaline batteries have a very long shelf life so for practical purposes I would recommend storing them in a cool dry place rather than a refrigerator. A manual defrosting chest freezer would work well though to maintain optimal battery freshness.
@fredcdobbs823
@fredcdobbs823 8 лет назад
What do you think of the Harbor Freight free-with coupon Cen-Tech multimeter with the 1.5/9v battery test position, will that properly load a cell for an accurate test?
@jeffreydeutsch7336
@jeffreydeutsch7336 7 лет назад
Fred C Dobbs That is just what it does. there is an internal resistor but it is in series with a milliameter rather than in parallel with a voltmeter. the milliameter is very low resistance so the resistor is most of the load. Using ohms law, the resistor is 375 ohms. The meter says the battery should produce 4ma with that load.If it shows less it means the voltage is down. For a 9 volt battery you should see 25ma.This tester reads current, not voltage on the battery test function. To do it the other way, get some load resistors and use the voltage range.
@Daluke61
@Daluke61 8 лет назад
Learned a thing or two about testing certain type of batteries, thanks!
@newmanhere4865
@newmanhere4865 3 года назад
Does the WATTAGE of the resistor we use matter when using this method of testing household batteries? And does the 100R seen as part of the specs for 100ohm resistors important? Would a 25W 100R 100ohm resistor work?
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 3 года назад
Wattage doesn't matter much as long as you only test for a few seconds at a time. For most people buying a battery load tester off of Amazon is probably a more practical solution.
@newmanhere4865
@newmanhere4865 3 года назад
@@knurlgnar24 Thanks alot for the quick reply.. I think I'm going to stick with the battery testing method you describe in your video.. seems like far too many Amazon load tester reviews describe VERY inaccurate test results as well as low quality hardware and/or product DOA in their comments! Would the 15 Amp rating of these aligator clip and wire set tend to scew the test results? : www.amazon.com/dp/B072C8G3XJ/?coliid=I19U49E5OARY17&colid=5T4XRIGDBIE&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
@TheTomar33
@TheTomar33 5 лет назад
I saw another video "ChrisFix" use a Multimeter to check his car battery, does that hold true for car batteries too?
@docferringer
@docferringer 4 года назад
If it is a "maintenance free" battery you can test it with a multimeter. BUT if the battery has those removable plastic covers that let you add water to the individual cells of the battery then you need to use a hydrometer instead.
@Petruccio1881
@Petruccio1881 8 лет назад
Hi, thanks for video. I've got one question: I'd like to test my 18650 rechargeable 3.7v battery, is it ok if use 100 ohm resistor for it?
@Milesco
@Milesco 4 года назад
100 ohms is too high of a resistance to get much (current or information) out of a battery, especially a large-ish one like a 18650. I would use no higher than a 5-ohm resistor.
@MrBigTexFyre
@MrBigTexFyre 9 лет назад
My Extech 330 doesn't do it, but I have a cheapo Harbor Freight multimeter that actually has a setting to test batteries. For example, when you hook it up it shows around 4.0 mA for AA, AAA, etc and 25 mA for a 9V battery. How does it work? Is it placing the battery under a load? Very interesting that a cheapo would have it and a fairly decent multimeter wouldn't.
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 9 лет назад
Some of those cheap-o meters have functions that work very well indeed! Yes, your meter does put the battery under load and tests it properly. You can just use your Harbor Freight meter and ignore this video. :) As you said you can't use your Extech to do the same function even though it is likely a better product overall.
@MrBigTexFyre
@MrBigTexFyre 9 лет назад
***** Indeed my Harbor Freight dmm has become my official battery tester. Well at least I finally found a use for it.
@Ameya274
@Ameya274 9 лет назад
I'm gonna buy this multimeter....Mastech 830L Magnetic Electronic Level (16 cm)...you think it will check batteries right without need of attaching a 100 resistor!!
@yamnjam
@yamnjam 8 лет назад
It's so weird. I got the freebie cheapo multimeter at Harbor Freight a week ago since the previous one died from leaving it on accidentally. Then tonight I found some batteries lying around and wondered if I could test them with my new meter. Your video is the first one I watched, and if I hadn't read the comments, I wouldn't have known my meter can properly test them without having to go find a resistor. ( I have an AAS from TSTC but that was in the early 90's and went into another career) and I realized I forgot how to read the colored stripes on the resistors. If you don't use it, you lose it. Oh well. But it's so nice to find the perfect answers to my situation in the very first video/comments. I won't be testing any transistors or diodes anytime soon but this meter apparently will test those too. Great video thanks for explaining it to all of us.
@giancarlo426
@giancarlo426 10 лет назад
How did you determine to set the resistance equal to 100 ohms? Would this be a reasonable resistance to test a 12 V car battery with? Thanks.
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 10 лет назад
A 12V car battery would require a far lower resistance - low enough to draw a couple hundred amps! The optimal resistance depends on the battery type and the application and I showed 100ohms here only because it is safe to use on all alkaline batteries.
@johnriver8125
@johnriver8125 10 лет назад
Hi, thanks for uploading your video! So following your suggestions I went to radio shack and bought a 100 ohm resister. But they had many different watt options at 100 ohms. I bought 1/4 watt 100 ohm resister, will that be ok? Hard to wrap my head around, they had 1/4, 1/2, 1, 10 watt options to choose from. Thanks for all your help on this!
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 10 лет назад
A 1/4 watt resistor will work on lower voltage batteries but will not withstand a 9V battery for long. If you only connect it for a few seconds and then let it cool you should be fine but a 1W or greater resistor would be preferred. Given that you already have a 1/4 watt resistor I would just use that. It should work fine as long as you only connect it for a brief time to those 9V batteries.
@jeffreydeutsch7336
@jeffreydeutsch7336 5 лет назад
The better low cost testers use a different load resistor for different cells. A D-cell generally will be used in a higher current demand device than a AAA. To do it right, one value resistor does no fit all. Even then, some cells are used at higher or lower than the average consumption for the type. A variable test load to approximate the working load is best. That power resistor's wattage is super overkill
@charlesdarwin6349
@charlesdarwin6349 4 года назад
Can I use this method to test 18650 battery? 100 ohm still sufficient?
@chandrasekharraobonu2468
@chandrasekharraobonu2468 6 месяцев назад
5ohm is enough
@smudger304
@smudger304 3 года назад
Is it possible to test the batteries whilst still in the item they are for? Put them under load and test which ones are faulty that way?
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 3 года назад
Yes, that is a fully valid way to test them so long as the device you're testing them in has a fairly high current draw. A flashlight for example will work well as a battery tester. A remote control won't.
@waynegram8907
@waynegram8907 4 года назад
Knulganar24, how do you test the DC internal resistance of a battery? and why does batteries have a internal resistance?
@kellergibson5643
@kellergibson5643 5 лет назад
Hi, thanks for the video the aluminium resistor of 110ohmns is it of 25w? Thanks for sharing ;)
@sergiomoura5371
@sergiomoura5371 4 года назад
Great explanation! Thank you!
@osscar29
@osscar29 6 лет назад
Great video mate, I've been totally confused by why my correct volt batteries wasn't working in the kids toys. Especially found the first half of the video enjoyable and informative. I think the number of people moaning about not getting to the point are a bunch of disinterested wankers and I would ignore them.
@a11Oop968
@a11Oop968 5 лет назад
Same for me! I liked the preamble - it was educational. If I have 6 used batteries in a bag and I know someone threw one new one in there and I have no idea which it is, using a flashlight (good example) is not the ideal way to find the good battery. I, too, could not understand why my rechargeable batteries showed good on the multimeter after charging them, but hardly lasted at all in a motion ceiling light.
@112aslann
@112aslann 4 месяца назад
Can you test without load resister or something else that has 100 ohm? Like putting the battery inside of (for example tv remote) and then put the multimeter on both ends while its inside the remote?
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 4 месяца назад
Yes, perfectly valid so long as the device you are testing it in is the device you intend to use it in. Sometimes a battery will work just fine at a low drain in powering something like a clock, but not work at all powering something like a flashlight. If it doesn't work in the high drain device it's still a 'bad' battery but that matters little if it works well in the application you are using it in.
@112aslann
@112aslann 4 месяца назад
@@knurlgnar24 Thanks for the quick answer :D
@happycat0411
@happycat0411 5 лет назад
I have a 1.5 volt, 9 volt, and 12 volt battery setting on my multi-meter. Can I use the 12 volt setting to load test the car battery in my vehicle?
@rpbajb
@rpbajb 3 года назад
Is it dangerous to test an 18650 Li-ion cell using a low resistance load, say 1 or 2 ohm? At what point does a low resistance become a short circuit?
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 3 года назад
A cell at 3 or 4 volts can be tested with under 1 ohm without issue. 'Short circuit' is a term that depends on context. A 10,000A current in a powerplant may be considered a small load. A 1A current in a watch battery would be considered short circuit. Currents need to stay within the bounds that the components are built to handle, so without more information it's difficult to answer the question.
@rpbajb
@rpbajb 3 года назад
@@knurlgnar24 Thanks. I want to test the internal resistance of some older flashlight cells, but I don't need any explosive excitement.
@rajeshchhabra326
@rajeshchhabra326 3 года назад
What is the name of that device which you attached with the multimeter
@asheqimran6238
@asheqimran6238 3 года назад
Do any multi-meters have a setting that adds resistance/load itself? So you wouldn't need to add it manually yourself?
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 3 года назад
Some meters have a 'low Z' setting but that isn't enough current to test a battery. The best product for this is a battery load tester.
@myhealthtoo
@myhealthtoo 10 лет назад
wow take a long time
@danhle1032
@danhle1032 9 лет назад
thank you...for demonstrating this
@GrayMan619
@GrayMan619 9 лет назад
Great video, thank you for preparing such helpful content.If I were to apply what you have shown for ups batteries how would I go about estimating the right resistance for a 12v 7AH lead acid ups battery to replicate load in a UPS designed for 1500VA that takes two (2x) 12v 7AH batteries in series?
@Milesco
@Milesco 4 года назад
You mean two 12 v batteries in *parallel.*
@waltright648
@waltright648 6 лет назад
So the resistor is connected in parallel rather than in series with the battery?
@spotlight761
@spotlight761 4 года назад
Why do you use the load and how it affects the voltage shown in the powercell battery?
@knurlgnar24
@knurlgnar24 4 года назад
The load allows us to measure the battery's internal resistance
@ronringler4286
@ronringler4286 3 года назад
Good video
@VinothKumar-zl2ht
@VinothKumar-zl2ht 5 лет назад
thank you, every time I play with this when by battery drains....Whooooo.
@bouhannacheabdallah
@bouhannacheabdallah 5 лет назад
it is good explanation but it would be better if you added a sheet of the load resistance according to battery voltage and energy stored in amps
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